Re: The next time you see someone on TV in a "newsroom"
At 04:40 PM 02/24/2003 -0800, Tim May wrote: Putting up fake newsrooms is quite another matter, though. I don't recall seeing this static shot of the "New York Times-Washington Bureau" newsroom. It seems like a silly thing to do, to have a photo of a newsroom with nobody in it. On the backdrops themselves, I'm surprised they're not using blue screen technology. The weather reporters have it, though with a sometimes visible "edge" (which is distracting). Comedy Central's "The Daily Show" does this all the time, in a broad mixture of serious news coverage, comedic spoofs, and various ranges of irony and sarcasm in between. Usually it's when their "Senior War Correspondent" is off somewhere. Since the War on (Some) Terrorists is the Wag the Dog War, we may soon be seeing actual faked war footage. You haven't been seeing it? It's right their next to the fnords, er, um, it must be your Broadcast Flag settings keeping you from receiving that part.
RE: The next time you see someone on TV in a "newsroom"
> Tyler Durden[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Waitisn't this a Philip K Dick book? The president's actually a > simulacra made to convince workers to stay below ground because of the > terrible war. But the truth is there is no war, and the underground folks > are really just slave labor cranking out goods for the elite few up on the > > surface, thinking they are serving the war effort. > > -TD > 'The Penultimate Truth' http://www.bibliora.com/P5_1102/html/penultimate.html Peter
Re: The next time you see someone on TV in a "newsroom"
Waitisn't this a Philip K Dick book? The president's actually a simulacra made to convince workers to stay below ground because of the terrible war. But the truth is there is no war, and the underground folks are really just slave labor cranking out goods for the elite few up on the surface, thinking they are serving the war effort. -TD From: Neil Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The next time you see someone on TV in a "newsroom" Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:56:29 -0600 This kind of stuff is standard practice. Ever seen a reporter interview a subject? The reporter usually only has one cameraman so they usually film the interview and at the end session they move the camera to where the interviewee was sitting and film the reporter nodding his/her head or something. Then they edit the video to insert the reporter into the middle so it looks more realistic. -- Neil Johnson, N0SFH _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: The next time you see someone on TV in a "newsroom"
You wrote: > Waitisn't this a Philip K Dick book? The president's actually a > simulacra made to convince workers to stay below ground because of the > terrible war. But the truth is there is no war, and the underground folks > are really just slave labor cranking out goods for the elite few up on the > surface, thinking they are serving the war effort. Even better is the one by Anthony Burgess called "The Wanting Seed" IIRC, where the draftees, both men and women, are given basic training to firm them up, then held onboard ship for weeks fattening them up, then sent to the trenches where they are machinegunned, then butchered for Spam.
Re: The next time you see someone on TV in a "newsroom"
On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 04:00 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote: On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 02:43:37PM -0800, Tim May wrote: And I notice that hanging on the wall to the right in the photo is the "New York Times -- Baghdad Bureau" photo. "All the news that's fit to simulate." Heh. I went on CNN Headline News last week around 7:20 am ET. They put me in a studio I hadn't been in before, with a remote-controlled camera and a photo of the monuments in the background. After my brief segment was over, a camera operator came in and rolled down the background a few inches -- apparently it hadn't been adjusted correctly and all you could see was the sky. They have another background (a continuous loop, on rollers) for daytime, night, etc. Will try to remember to take a photo the next time I'm there. Those kinds of backgrounds are, I think, quite reasonable. They're very obviously just backdrops, as the lights don't change, lights at night don't flicker, clouds don't move, etc. CNBC uses them for San Francisco backdrops...usually the Golden Gate Bridge, or the Transamerica Pyramid, or the Bay Bridge. And they're even clever enough to usually have an "overcast" shot when the day is overcast, a "clear and sunny" shot as appropriate, and (less often for programming reasons) night shots. I think 99% of the viewers understand that it's just a visual cue to remind those not hearing or reading the intro about where the interviewee is located. Putting up fake newsrooms is quite another matter, though. I don't recall seeing this static shot of the "New York Times-Washington Bureau" newsroom. It seems like a silly thing to do, to have a photo of a newsroom with nobody in it. On the backdrops themselves, I'm surprised they're not using blue screen technology. The weather reporters have it, though with a sometimes visible "edge" (which is distracting). Since the War on (Some) Terrorists is the Wag the Dog War, we may soon be seeing actual faked war footage. (The best news has been that 100 or so American reporters have "signed on" to wear actual uniforms, to be assigned to combat units, and to participate in battles if need be. This I count as "good news" because it may mean that captured reporters are not held-and-released the way Bob Simon, for example, was in Iraq. This time they may face the same fate other captured enemy face. And it erases any misconceptions that the unquestioning press is actually independent of the military-industrial-media complex. "Fox News -- Fair AND Balanced!") --Tim May "Ben Franklin warned us that those who would trade liberty for a little bit of temporary security deserve neither. This is the path we are now racing down, with American flags fluttering."-- Tim May, on events following 9/11/2001
Re: The next time you see someone on TV in a "newsroom"
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 02:43:37PM -0800, Tim May wrote: > And I notice that hanging on the wall to the right in the photo is the > "New York Times -- Baghdad Bureau" photo. "All the news that's fit to > simulate." Heh. I went on CNN Headline News last week around 7:20 am ET. They put me in a studio I hadn't been in before, with a remote-controlled camera and a photo of the monuments in the background. After my brief segment was over, a camera operator came in and rolled down the background a few inches -- apparently it hadn't been adjusted correctly and all you could see was the sky. They have another background (a continuous loop, on rollers) for daytime, night, etc. Will try to remember to take a photo the next time I'm there. -Declan PS: The newsroom itself: http://www.mccullagh.org/image/d30-32/new-york-times-washington-bureau.html
Re: The next time you see someone on TV in a "newsroom"
On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 12:20 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote: Remember this... http://www.mccullagh.org/image/d30-32/new-york-times-dc-bureau.html And I notice that hanging on the wall to the right in the photo is the "New York Times -- Baghdad Bureau" photo. "All the news that's fit to simulate." And to think some people still think we actually _did_ go to the moon at one time. (P.S. I wonder how long it will be before publishing a photo debunking someone's Potemkin Village is a violation of the DMCA?) --Tim May "You don't expect governments to obey the law because of some higher moral development. You expect them to obey the law because they know that if they don't, those who aren't shot will be hanged." - -Michael Shirley
Re: The next time you see someone on TV in a "newsroom"
This kind of stuff is standard practice. Ever seen a reporter interview a subject? The reporter usually only has one cameraman so they usually film the interview and at the end session they move the camera to where the interviewee was sitting and film the reporter nodding his/her head or something. Then they edit the video to insert the reporter into the middle so it looks more realistic. -- Neil Johnson, N0SFH
The next time you see someone on TV in a "newsroom"
Remember this... http://www.mccullagh.org/image/d30-32/new-york-times-dc-bureau.html :) -Declan
