Re: maybe he would cash himself in? (Re: A Billion for Bin Laden)

2004-08-17 Thread Bill Stewart
At 11:55 AM 8/12/2004, Dave Howe wrote:

of course someone *really* cynical might think they already had him,
but needed to spring a billion towards shrub's reelection campaign
S that's not supposed to happen until October...
Adam Back wrote:
Maybe Bin Laden would turn himself in in return for a billion $ for
his cause (through a middle-man of course).
That's actually more credible, though I'm skeptical that anybody
would trust the Bush Administration with that much money -
if you're not an established government or well-known warlord,
don't you become an immediate target of US suspicion?
But Bin Laden could get to turn himself in alive,
and if he gets killed as a martyr to the cause,
lots more people get to hate Bush.



maybe he would cash himself in? (Re: A Billion for Bin Laden)

2004-08-12 Thread Adam Back
Maybe Bin Laden would turn himself in in return for a billion $ for
his cause (through a middle-man of course).

Seem to remember that Bin Laden was relatively wealthy himself (100
M$?), but you'd have to balance these rewards to not be too
excessively much more than net worth of the individual.  As a rational
adversary would include in his game plan swapping himself for the
money for the cause.

Especially if it could be arranged in a way which tends to cast Bin
Laden in the martyr role him and encourage the hydra effect where it
galvanizes leutenants to step in.

Bin Laden would have to balance also with how valueable he thought his
leader ship was.

Of course the lieutenants themselves might do the calculation and
figure they would be closer to their goals after cashing in Bin Laden.

Adam

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 03:37:32AM -0400, Sunder wrote:
 Yeah, about as brilliant as a turd.  Didn't they recently call Al-Qaeda's 
 network a hydra?  correct me if I don't recall my Ancient Greek myths, but 
 when you cut off one head on the hydra, two more grow back, so are we to 
 assume that future heads that grow back will carry such bounties?
 
 A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real 
 money.
 
 I guess they do realize that these guys are idologists and the allmighty 
 dollar is anathema to them, so they have to raise the bounty in order to 
 get someone to betray him...   Never discount greed, no matter how 
 ideological someone may be, at some ridiculous sum, someone somewhere will 
 rat him out... perhaps just before the elections.



Re: maybe he would cash himself in? (Re: A Billion for Bin Laden)

2004-08-12 Thread Sunder

Nah, if Bush already had him in a hole somewhere to produce him just in 
time for the elections, he'd collect the billion for himself as his 
personal reward.

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  \|/  :They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country /\|/\
--*--:and our people, and neither do we. -G. W. Bush, 2004.08.05 \/|\/
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Dave Howe wrote:

 of course someone *really* cynical might think they already had him, but 
 needed to spring a billion towards shrub's reelection campaign