RE: no photography, no questions, no rights

2004-03-25 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 02:05 PM 3/25/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
>"In the Brinworld of Phonecams this is a nice challenge for the
>freelancer...
>Fuck you, Anderson III"
>
>All he did was raise the prices of said photos, correct? Shit...I
should get
>on out there and make myself a fortune...

In practice, because markets are robust, and anonymity not so hard, yes.
:-)

However this is a classic case of the State using *violence* to
(wrongly) prohibit
behavior which is in fact protected.

You *don't* have a right to take pictures inside *my* walls if its
prohibited, since
its private property.   In my house or store, I can call for the State's
violence
against you if you do things I don't consent to.

But on public land, or from a private building in the area, no one
(incl.
the State's twerps like Anderson III) can prohibit such behavior,
as there is no right to privacy in public.

Excellent (and 'punkly) point about the market for information, though.

PS: I'd say the Streisand vs. Coastal Photographer lawsuit was a good
example of someone trying to abuse the State's violence by convincing
it that the Photog was somehow doing a wrong.  In that case the
Judge correctly decided that Streisand was full of shit.




RE: no photography, no questions, no rights

2004-03-25 Thread Tyler Durden
"In the Brinworld of Phonecams this is a nice challenge for the
freelancer...
Fuck you, Anderson III"
All he did was raise the prices of said photos, correct? Shit...I should get 
on out there and make myself a fortune...

-TD



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Subject: no photography, no questions, no rights
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:27:58 -0800
LOS ANGELES (AP) -- On the eve of grand jury proceedings in the Michael
Jackson molestation case, the presiding judge of the Santa Barbara
courts barred pictures or communication with any prospective or final
panelists, or grand jury witnesses.
Superior Court Judge Clifford R. Anderson III did not mention Jackson's
name in his order Wednesday, but acknowledged a grand jury summoned this
week "has created significant media and public interest."
The order threatens to hold in contempt anyone who communicates with a
juror, prospective grand juror or witness - or reveals secret testimony.
It also prohibits photography of jurors or prospective jurors entering
and exiting the courthouse and "any other facility or property utilized
by the grand jury."
Media lawyers immediately protested, calling the order "overbroad and
unconstitutional prohibition of activity protected under the First
Amendment and California law." They said the courthouse and its environs
have long been recognized as a public forum.
"I've not seen an order so broad and so sweeping," said attorney
Theodore J. Boutrous Jr., who represents several media organizations
including The Associated Press.

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no photography, no questions, no rights

2004-03-25 Thread Major Variola (ret.)
LOS ANGELES (AP) -- On the eve of grand jury proceedings in the Michael
Jackson molestation case, the presiding judge of the Santa Barbara
courts barred pictures or communication with any prospective or final
panelists, or grand jury witnesses.

Superior Court Judge Clifford R. Anderson III did not mention Jackson's
name in his order Wednesday, but acknowledged a grand jury summoned this
week "has created significant media and public interest."

The order threatens to hold in contempt anyone who communicates with a
juror, prospective grand juror or witness - or reveals secret testimony.
It also prohibits photography of jurors or prospective jurors entering
and exiting the courthouse and "any other facility or property utilized
by the grand jury."

Media lawyers immediately protested, calling the order "overbroad and
unconstitutional prohibition of activity protected under the First
Amendment and California law." They said the courthouse and its environs
have long been recognized as a public forum.

"I've not seen an order so broad and so sweeping," said attorney
Theodore J. Boutrous Jr., who represents several media organizations
including The Associated Press.


http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CA_MICHAEL_JACKSON_CAOL-?SITE=CAANR&SECTION=STATE

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In the Brinworld of Phonecams this is a nice challenge for the
freelancer...
Fuck you, Anderson III