Re: [darktable-dev] darktable 3.6 released

2021-07-07 Thread Solarer
Hi Matthias,
there are 2 ways to delete pictures. You can just remove them from your catalog 
or truely delete them from your disk.

You probably used the first option. That is why they were still inside the 
folder when you moved it and so they showed up again.

Your edits are stored in xmp files. Can you see those? You need to copy them as 
well!

Best, Jan



07.07.2021 08:51:41 Matthias Elsdörfer :

> Quick follow-up... I read through the announcement more thoroughly now and 
> realize that what previously was the "import" button is now the "add to 
> library" button.
> 
> I also found that DT on my laptop still had all the files, so I used DT's own 
> "move" feature to put them back into my home folder.
> 
> I'd still like to know where they were copied to in the first place. I 
> couldn't find that info in your article.
> 
> 
>  
> [https://www.brandartery.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Logo_Design_150.png][Bild-Link][https://www.brandartery.com]
> 
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> a.k.a. Matt Eastwood
> 
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> 
> 
> On 7/7/21 8:32 AM, Matthias Elsdörfer wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, Darktable team!
>> 
>> First of all, thanks so much for this new release, it's always extremely 
>> exciting to hear about one and to test it out. I've been a user since 2013 
>> and the program just keeps getting better.
>> 
>> I do have a problem with the new "Copy and Import" feature though. I worked 
>> through a whole photo session on Monday on my laptop, deleting over 40 
>> pictures and retouching the remaining 30. Then, I moved the whole folder 
>> over to my desktop PC.
>> 
>> When I opened it on my desktop today, I found that the 40 pictures I deleted 
>> were back and all my editing work was gone.
>> 
>> Why? Where did it go? Do my files get copied somewhere when I import them? 
>> What's wrong with keeping them where I put them in the first place?
>> 
>> I hope you can help me make sense of this and, perhaps, recover my 2 hours 
>> of work. I'm hoping it's still somewhere on my laptop.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Matt.
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> [https://www.brandartery.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Logo_Design_150.png][Bild-Link][https://www.brandartery.com]
>> 
>> *Matthias Elsdörfer* · Weitererzähler.
>> a.k.a. Matt Eastwood
>> 
>> Web Design · Fotografie
>> Copywriting · Kommunikation
>> 
>> Website[https://www.brandartery.com/] · Matts 
>> Fotografie[https://www.meetmatteastwood.com/]
>> Phone: (+49) 170 - 7 555 701
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/3/21 10:14 AM, Pascal Obry wrote:
>>> We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.6.0!
>>> 
>>> The github release is here:
>>> [https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.6.0](https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.6.0)
>>> .
>>> 
>>> As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by
>>> github, but only our tar.xz file. the checksums are:
>>> 
>>> ```
>>> $ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0.tar.xz
>>> 86bcd0184af38b93c3688dffd3d5c19cc65f268ecf9358d649fa11fe26c70a39
>>> darktable-3.6.0.tar.xz
>>> $ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0.3.dmg
>>> 12c9319d68dac5b1b5602bf470254467b90f5c5b9d2e93ea081d42884cfd4f80
>>> darktable-3.6.0.3.dmg
>>> $ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0-win64.exe
>>> aad925988545ff3c50f54243520e8481c695b38b209daa808a490113f6400374
>>> darktable-3.6.0-win64.exe
>>> ```
>>> 
>>> When updating from the currently stable 3.4.x series, please bear in
>>> mind that your edits will be preserved during this process, but the new
>>> library and configuration will not be usable with 3.4.x any more.
>>> 
>>> You are strongly advised to take a backup first.
>>> 
>>>  Important note: to make sure that darktable can keep on supporting
>>> the raw file format for your camera, *please* read [this
>>> post](https://discuss.pixls.us/t/raw-samples-wanted/5420?u=lebedevri)
>>> on how/what raw samples you can contribute to ensure that we have the
>>> *full* raw sample set for your camera under CC0 license!
>>> 
>>> - Almost 2680 commits to darktable+rawspeed since 3.4
>>> - 954 pull requests handled
>>> - 290 issues closed
>>> 
>>> ## The Big Ones
>>> 
>>> - Full rework of the import module. The new module allows you to see
>>>   thumbnails of your images before import and makes it easier to handle
>>>   multiple import tasks. The same dialog is now used for importing
>>>   from disk, card or camera.
>>> 
>>>   When importing "in-place", images that are already present in
>>> darktable
>>>   are flagged and can be automatically excluded from the import.
>>> 
>>>   Importing from a local drive won't use gphoto and so should work more
>>>   reliably on Windows.
>>> 
>>> - A vector-scope is added to complement the current histogram,
>>>   waveform and parade views.
>>> 
>>> - A new default demosaic algorithm (RCD) has 

Re: Fwd: [darktable-dev] darktable 3.6 released

2021-07-07 Thread Matthias Elsdörfer

Thanks, Bruce! That was the missing puzzle piece.

(also, thanks for your great YouTube channel!).



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On 7/7/21 1:02 PM, Bruce Williams wrote:

That will be obvious by looking at your preferences/import and looking
at the text string in the "base directory naming pattern" and "sub
directory naming pattern" fields.
Cheers,
Bruce Williams
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From: *Matthias Elsdörfer* mailto:matthias.elsdoer...@gmx.de>>
Date: Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] darktable 3.6 released
To: Solarer mailto:sola...@hotmail.de>>
Cc: mailto:darktable-dev@lists.darktable.org>>


Thanks, Jan! Yeah, technically, what I did was: I copied the pictures
from my SD card to my /home/Test/ folder, like I always do. Then, I
used "import and copy" in DT and pointed to that folder.

What I didn't realize that 3.6 now actually makes new copies somewhere
else on the file system. That's why I was so surprised later to find
all 73 CR2s still there in /home/Test, and no XMP files at all.

What I'm wondering is, where on my file system is the directory that
DT copied my files to and placed my XMPs in?



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On 7/7/21 9:26 AM, Solarer wrote:

Hi Matthias,
there are 2 ways to delete pictures. You can just remove them from
your catalog or truely delete them from your disk.

You probably used the first option. That is why they were still
inside the folder when you moved it and so they showed up again.

Your edits are stored in xmp files. Can you see those? You need to
copy them as well!

Best, Jan



07.07.2021 08:51:41 Matthias Elsdörfer 
:

Quick follow-up... I read through the announcement more
thoroughly now and realize that what previously was the "import"
button is now the "add to library" button.

I also found that DT on my laptop still had all the files, so I
used DT's own "move" feature to put them back into my home folder.

I'd still like to know where they were copied to in the first
place. I couldn't find that info in your article.



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a.k.a. Matt Eastwood

Web Design · Fotografie
Copywriting · Kommunikation

Website  · Matts Fotografie

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On 7/7/21 8:32 AM, Matthias Elsdörfer wrote:


Hello, Darktable team!

First of all, thanks so much for this new release, it's always
extremely exciting to hear about one and to test it out. I've
been a user since 2013 and the program just keeps getting better.

I do have a problem with the new "Copy and Import" feature
though. I worked through a whole photo session on Monday on my
laptop, deleting over 40 pictures and retouching the remaining
30. Then, I moved the whole folder over to my desktop PC.

When I opened it on my desktop today, I found that the 40
pictures I deleted were back and all my editing work was gone.

Why? Where did it go? Do my files get copied somewhere when I
import them? What's wrong with keeping them where I put them in
the first place?

I hope you can help me make sense of this and, perhaps, recover
my 2 hours of work. I'm hoping it's still somewhere on my laptop.

Thanks,
Matt.



Matthias Elsdörfer · Weitererzähler.
a.k.a. Matt Eastwood

Web Design · Fotografie
Copywriting · Kommunikation

Website  · Matts Fotografie

Phone: (+49) 170 - 7 555 701

On 7/3/21 10:14 AM, Pascal Obry wrote:

We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.6.0!

The github release is here:
[https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.6.0  


Fwd: [darktable-dev] darktable 3.6 released

2021-07-07 Thread Bruce Williams
That will be obvious by looking at your preferences/import and looking at
the text string in the "base directory naming pattern" and "sub directory
naming pattern" fields.
Cheers,
Bruce Williams
--
brucewilliamsphotography.com
shuttersincpodcast.com

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LinkedIn  | Facebook
 | Soundcloud
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From: Matthias Elsdörfer 
Date: Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] darktable 3.6 released
To: Solarer 
Cc: 


Thanks, Jan! Yeah, technically, what I did was: I copied the pictures from
my SD card to my /home/Test/ folder, like I always do. Then, I used "import
and copy" in DT and pointed to that folder.

What I didn't realize that 3.6 now actually makes new copies somewhere else
on the file system. That's why I was so surprised later to find all 73 CR2s
still there in /home/Test, and no XMP files at all.

What I'm wondering is, where on my file system is the directory that DT
copied my files to and placed my XMPs in?



Matthias Elsdörfer · Weitererzähler.
a.k.a. Matt Eastwood

Web Design · Fotografie
Copywriting · Kommunikation

Website  · Matts Fotografie

Phone: (+49) 170 - 7 555 701
On 7/7/21 9:26 AM, Solarer wrote:

Hi Matthias,
there are 2 ways to delete pictures. You can just remove them from your
catalog or truely delete them from your disk.

You probably used the first option. That is why they were still inside the
folder when you moved it and so they showed up again.

Your edits are stored in xmp files. Can you see those? You need to copy
them as well!

Best, Jan

--

07.07.2021 08:51:41 Matthias Elsdörfer 
:

Quick follow-up... I read through the announcement more thoroughly now and
realize that what previously was the "import" button is now the "add to
library" button.

I also found that DT on my laptop still had all the files, so I used DT's
own "move" feature to put them back into my home folder.

I'd still like to know where they were copied to in the first place. I
couldn't find that info in your article.



Matthias Elsdörfer · Weitererzähler.
a.k.a. Matt Eastwood

Web Design · Fotografie
Copywriting · Kommunikation

Website  · Matts Fotografie

Phone: (+49) 170 - 7 555 701
On 7/7/21 8:32 AM, Matthias Elsdörfer wrote:

Hello, Darktable team!

First of all, thanks so much for this new release, it's always extremely
exciting to hear about one and to test it out. I've been a user since 2013
and the program just keeps getting better.

I do have a problem with the new "Copy and Import" feature though. I worked
through a whole photo session on Monday on my laptop, deleting over 40
pictures and retouching the remaining 30. Then, I moved the whole folder
over to my desktop PC.

When I opened it on my desktop today, I found that the 40 pictures I
deleted were back and all my editing work was gone.

Why? Where did it go? Do my files get copied somewhere when I import them?
What's wrong with keeping them where I put them in the first place?

I hope you can help me make sense of this and, perhaps, recover my 2 hours
of work. I'm hoping it's still somewhere on my laptop.

Thanks,
Matt.



Matthias Elsdörfer · Weitererzähler.
a.k.a. Matt Eastwood

Web Design · Fotografie
Copywriting · Kommunikation

Website  · Matts Fotografie

Phone: (+49) 170 - 7 555 701
On 7/3/21 10:14 AM, Pascal Obry wrote:

We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.6.0!

The github release is here:
[https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.6.0](https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.6.0)
.

As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by
github, but only our tar.xz file. the checksums are:

```
$ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0.tar.xz
86bcd0184af38b93c3688dffd3d5c19cc65f268ecf9358d649fa11fe26c70a39
darktable-3.6.0.tar.xz
$ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0.3.dmg
12c9319d68dac5b1b5602bf470254467b90f5c5b9d2e93ea081d42884cfd4f80
darktable-3.6.0.3.dmg
$ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0-win64.exe
aad925988545ff3c50f54243520e8481c695b38b209daa808a490113f6400374
darktable-3.6.0-win64.exe
```

When updating from the currently stable 3.4.x series, please bear in
mind that your edits will be preserved during this process, but the new
library and configuration will not be usable with 3.4.x any more.

You are strongly advised to take a backup first.

 Important note: to make sure that darktable can keep on supporting
the raw file format fo

Re: [darktable-dev] darktable 3.6 released

2021-07-07 Thread Matthias Elsdörfer

Thanks, Jan! Yeah, technically, what I did was: I copied the pictures
from my SD card to my /home/Test/ folder, like I always do. Then, I used
"import and copy" in DT and pointed to that folder.

What I didn't realize that 3.6 now actually makes new copies somewhere
else on the file system. That's why I was so surprised later to find all
73 CR2s still there in /home/Test, and no XMP files at all.

What I'm wondering is, where on my file system is the directory that DT
copied my files to and placed my XMPs in?



Matthias Elsdörfer · Weitererzähler.
a.k.a. Matt Eastwood

Web Design · Fotografie
Copywriting · Kommunikation

Website  · Matts Fotografie

Phone: (+49) 170 - 7 555 701

On 7/7/21 9:26 AM, Solarer wrote:

Hi Matthias,
there are 2 ways to delete pictures. You can just remove them from
your catalog or truely delete them from your disk.

You probably used the first option. That is why they were still inside
the folder when you moved it and so they showed up again.

Your edits are stored in xmp files. Can you see those? You need to
copy them as well!

Best, Jan



07.07.2021 08:51:41 Matthias Elsdörfer :

Quick follow-up... I read through the announcement more thoroughly
now and realize that what previously was the "import" button is
now the "add to library" button.

I also found that DT on my laptop still had all the files, so I
used DT's own "move" feature to put them back into my home folder.

I'd still like to know where they were copied to in the first
place. I couldn't find that info in your article.



Matthias Elsdörfer · Weitererzähler.
a.k.a. Matt Eastwood

Web Design · Fotografie
Copywriting · Kommunikation

Website  · Matts Fotografie

Phone: (+49) 170 - 7 555 701

On 7/7/21 8:32 AM, Matthias Elsdörfer wrote:


Hello, Darktable team!

First of all, thanks so much for this new release, it's always
extremely exciting to hear about one and to test it out. I've
been a user since 2013 and the program just keeps getting better.

I do have a problem with the new "Copy and Import" feature
though. I worked through a whole photo session on Monday on my
laptop, deleting over 40 pictures and retouching the remaining
30. Then, I moved the whole folder over to my desktop PC.

When I opened it on my desktop today, I found that the 40
pictures I deleted were back and all my editing work was gone.

Why? Where did it go? Do my files get copied somewhere when I
import them? What's wrong with keeping them where I put them in
the first place?

I hope you can help me make sense of this and, perhaps, recover
my 2 hours of work. I'm hoping it's still somewhere on my laptop.

Thanks,
Matt.



Matthias Elsdörfer · Weitererzähler.
a.k.a. Matt Eastwood

Web Design · Fotografie
Copywriting · Kommunikation

Website  · Matts Fotografie

Phone: (+49) 170 - 7 555 701

On 7/3/21 10:14 AM, Pascal Obry wrote:

We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.6.0!

The github release is here:

[https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.6.0](https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.6.0)
.

As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by
github, but only our tar.xz file. the checksums are:

```
$ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0.tar.xz
86bcd0184af38b93c3688dffd3d5c19cc65f268ecf9358d649fa11fe26c70a39
darktable-3.6.0.tar.xz
$ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0.3.dmg
12c9319d68dac5b1b5602bf470254467b90f5c5b9d2e93ea081d42884cfd4f80
darktable-3.6.0.3.dmg
$ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0-win64.exe
aad925988545ff3c50f54243520e8481c695b38b209daa808a490113f6400374
darktable-3.6.0-win64.exe
```

When updating from the currently stable 3.4.x series, please bear in
mind that your edits will be preserved during this process, but the new
library and configuration will not be usable with 3.4.x any more.

You are strongly advised to take a backup first.

 Important note: to make sure that darktable can keep on supporting
the raw file format for your camera, *please* read [this
post](https://discuss.pixls.us/t/raw-samples-wanted/5420?u=lebedevri)
on how/what raw samples you can contribute to ensure that we have the
*full* raw sample set for your camera under CC0 license!

- Almost 2680 commits to darktable+rawspeed since 3.4
- 954 pull requests handled
- 290 issues closed

## The Big Ones

- Full rework of the import module. The new module allows