Re: [darktable-dev] release 4.2 is coming...
Hello All, I wish to express my profound appreciation of the great work all the mentioned ones and others do with Darktable. Darktable is an impressive piece of software, and it evolves to ever greater heights! It is far, far superior to the (unjustifiably) more renowned proprietary competitors like Lightroom, and a MAJOR advantage is that there is no such thing as Product Activation or a need for a subscription or connections in order to use the program as long as one wants. If I am to "criticize" the brilliant and hard-working independent software creators for something, it is the curious fact that it is rarely pointed out that Product Activation, subscription schemes and connection requirements introduce great vulnerabilities and destroys our freedom to use our own computers. Our data are never safe if a software company controls our software, and there is no freedom if the software needs activation, subscripions or permanent connections in order to be used. I am certain that many more would use Darktable and the various flavors of Linux if these points were made and disseminated much more widely to the public. Sincerely, Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway > Pascal Obry wrote: Hello! I'd like to take some time, while we are all waiting for the 4.2 release, to send you a little message about darktable. This release cycle has seen lot of improvements as previous releases. We had also some divergences with one developer and the signal sent was certainly not good or worrisome for some of you. Fact is that the team behind darktable is strong and working very hard in many aspects of the project. Some people gain more visibility because they work on GUI part that are directly visible by end-users. But there is also some people working on part of the code that you do not see directly but that makes darktable internal better. I'd like to thank Hanno Schwalm and Ralf Brown for their work on performances, tweaking OpenCL code path and OpenMP to use every cycles of your CPU. I'd like to thank Hanno Schwalm also for working on new highlight recovery algorithms. I'd like to thank Diederik ter Rahe for looking into Gtk issues and proposing a very impressive framework for shortcuts. And to achieve that, lot of code refactoring has been done. Some Gtk parts are looking like black magic to me :) I'd like to thank Roman Lebedev for the hard work in rawspeed. Without this project darktable won't be there. Also Miloš Komarčević working on rawspeed and many RAW formats support. I'd like to thank Victor Forsiuk for working on image input/output support and fixing a huge number of spelling typos. I'd like to thank Aldric Renaudin for the continued effort on the lighttable filters and UI. I'd like to thank Nicolas Auffray for taking over the UI effort and doing magic with CSS. I'd like to thank Bill Fergusson for maintaining the Lua framework. I'd like to thank rawfiner for checking noise profiles and making sure they are in good shape for integration. I'd like to thank Simone Gotti for working on a new lens correction method based on meta-data. I'd like to thank all the testers and reviewers (Chris Elston, Martin Straeten, parafin, Mark-64, and others) making sure we do not introduce more issues than we are fixing. Also thanks for Chris for reading my English in the RELEASE_NOTES and correcting it. I'd like to thank parafin and Bill Fergusson for creating the release binaries for MacOS and Windows. And Andreas Schneider as maintainer of the OBS platform for creating the GNU/Linux binaries. I'd like to thank Sakari Kapanen for helping with color science. I'd like to thank Jakob Andrén for the long journey at making Sigmoid a viable alternative to FilmicRGB. I'd like to thank all the translators bringing to us an interface in our native language. I won't name them, but also remember that darktable is Open Source and we leverage on many other Open Source projects/libraries (to handle Jpeg, TIFF, AVIF, HEIF, PNG... tether with camera, handle SVG, colors...). I'm even pretty sure that there is far more code in the dependencies we are using than in darktable itself. And finally I'd like to thank all people that I have forgotten in the list above. I'm sorry if I missed you. A darktable release is a huge amount of work and the darktable team is wonderful. I'm really happy to be part of it, let's the aventure continue. Have all a nice end of year! ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] darktable 3.8.0 released
Pascal Obry wrote: We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.8.0! I have already installed and run it, as expected successfully, on my OpenSuSE 15.2 setup. Thank you for another great version. Sincerely, Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] Adding a browser
Hello all. The inclusion of a browser in Darktable is neither necessary, nor desirable, nor feasible. That is reality. Darktable is truly brilliant. Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway > Lorenzo Fontanella wrote: Evening, I submit to you some considerations: DarkTable originated along the lines of Lightroom but with the purpose of remaining open source and making improvements over the same software from Adobe. Today the 2 softwares are almost alternative to each other. Using DT, I realize (and I'm always amazed) of some functions that other softwares dream of, I speak for example of the perspective correction module or of the color search table module that offers the possibility of selection in absolute values. However, this function is missing in DT as well as in Lightroom and for both of them, in my opinion, it is a reason to slow down the adoption of this software solution. I'm obviously talking about the lack of a browser integrated to the software that allows you to simply browse the folders of the HDD and open the images you want to edit. In this way you are bound to the import that if it must be done on many files at a time, slows down the whole process and discourages. I suggest adding a browser that allows you to browse the folders of the whole archive without having to import them. Once you have started to edit the file, obviously the development queue could be saved on sidecar files, if the modified images have not been imported. What do you think. For me it would be a double option that would facilitate the adoption of this great software by those who do not want to be forced to work with databases and forced imports. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator <http://www.DeepL.com/Translator> (free version) Lorenzo Fontanella ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org -- Noise Reduction is just another word for Image Destruction. Per Inge Oestmoen ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] idea to consider
People who invest tens of thousands of dollars in high-quality cameras and lenses are served by a high-quality RAW converter that can convert to high-bit TIFF files. Darktable is such a converter. There is no compelling reason why we would focus our resources on .jpg conversion even if it were technically feasible. Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway > Chris Shelton wrote: Some photographers work in jpg only and sometimes I would not question their creative ability while maybe questioning the technical choice although I suppose they do avoid the mistake of overworking and gilding the lily I thought that the appeal of Darktable could be expanded to include people like this by having a facility whereby raw images are batch processed to create a set of jpg images in a similar way to the way jpg images are created by in-camera processing, maybe in the light table module; there would still be the option to work on a raw image as normal. I'm a bit overworked myself at the moment and struggle with RSI as you may deduce from the voice recognition I use . I did do C and C++ in the 90s though it would take a while to get up to speed; maybe one day ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Pushing ISO (ISO invarience)
Patrick Shanahan wrote: fwiw: all software has it's own ideal about what a user expects one can seldom move from one application to another similar w/o having to learn the new UI. NONE is standard. I tend to agree with this. However, precisely because all are different good documentation is imperative. If documentation is available, all is well. -- Noise Reduction is just another word for Image Destruction. Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] Online documentation at version 2.4
Pete Robbins wrote: I believe the download pdf is v2.6 The only downloadable PDF user manual for Darktable I have been able to find is that of 2.4. Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] Plugin-SDK
Heiko Bauke wrote: But note that dt has already plenty of powerful modules. Imho > dt would probably benefit more from enhanced performance and user experience than from new modules. High-quality documentation demonstrating whole workflows and how modules interact is also rare. In my opinion, the key to accomplishing an increase in the number of Darktable users is precisely documentation. Dumbing down the program would be the worst possible choice. Many want a powerful program and many who are today novices will soon progress and learn more. More and improved documentation is needed. That is the obvious solution. -- Noise Reduction is just another word for Image Destruction. Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] scaling produces corrupted image
Which git do you refer to as the current one? Please give the version number, so that we can know. Per Inge Oestmoen > Alexander Rabtchevich wrote: Current git produces corrupted image if export settings require downsampling. Mint 19 x64 Mate. Memory is enough. With respect, Alexander Rabtchevich ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org -- Noise Reduction is just another word for Image Destruction. Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] noise
I noticed that this image shows major loss of contrast and there are large amounts of noice in the shadows: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9fwFLCJOjNNnZWNjVSYXhaX28/view Per Inge Oestmoen > Andrey wrote: I've spent a huge amount of time watching youtube videos, reading different tutorials and testing all the tools DT has. Here are the crops you may look at: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rqPfr8rHalwvbjJ03Ho-pze4Uxsq3ggh DT gives unacceptable result. I've tried to pop this theme up year by year - without any success. DT is a great tool, you are men.. but! One of the most fundamental functions is useless compared to opensource competitor (!). DT's target audience are bachelors of mathematics with cameras (for a while). I will pray for you to get DT close to regular users. Thanks for feedback. And sorry for my english. сб, 3 нояб. 2018 г. в 21:05, William Ferguson mailto:wpfergu...@gmail.com>>: Try this... To add the styles to darktable - save the styles, then in lighttable mode open the styles dialog and click import, select the files, then import them. Each one is standalone, so if you start with 1 and it's not enough then you try 2, 2 will overwrite 1. The higher the number the stronger the settings and I add more modules. Hope this helps, Bill On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 12:59 PM Andrey L mailto:parihaar...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello, guys. Canon DPP makes me crazy, but DT is unable to compete with neither Canon DPP, nor RawTherapee :( Could you please pay some attention to DarkTable's noise removal opportunities? I have to spend senconds with Canon DPP to suppress noise on high-iso image, I need minutes to get a good result in RawThrerapee, but nobody can spend hours to make bad result with tons of noise reduction tools. Please, break the last barrier to DT :`| Here my example: original image: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz9fwFLCJOjNMnJlTzgwcHZOdTA canon dpp: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz9fwFLCJOjNc1RoWW9kN3d3V0k rawtherapee: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz9fwFLCJOjNNnZWNjVSYXhaX28 The best efforts In general lead to green noise on barbells. It's too complex problem for regular photographer. ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org <mailto:darktable-dev%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org <mailto:darktable-dev%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org -- Noise Reduction is just another word for Image Destruction. Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] Color balance wheels
Aurélien Pierre wrote: On another note, is it mandatory to make the adjustement in sRGB ? (why not a larger RGB space ?) In my opinion, any dependence on sRGB is undesirable - and sRGB should be avoided in the workflow until the files are presented through a media which cannot show a larger color space. In a not too distant future, all monitors and projectors will be able to show a color space larger than Adobe RGB. Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] Nikon D850 - white balance presets missing
Dear Andreas,
I have now created some more values, see below. Tell me if that is what
you need.
There is one more: CoolWhiteFluorescent - that is the seventh file. You
see the names.
siberia@linux-m78e:~/backup/WB_presets_02> perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0886.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Sodium Lamp", 0, { 1.121582, 1,
2.477051, 0 } },
siberia@linux-m78e:~/backup/WB_presets_02> perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0887.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Warm WHT FL", 0, { 1.208496, 1,
1.979004, 0 } },
siberia@linux-m78e:~/backup/WB_presets_02> perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0888.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "White FL", 0, { 1.37793, 1, 2.361328,
0 } },
siberia@linux-m78e:~/backup/WB_presets_02> perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0889.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Day White FL", 0, { 1.769531, 1,
1.398438, 0 } },
siberia@linux-m78e:~/backup/WB_presets_02> perl wb_extract.pl
_DSC0890.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Daylight FL", 0, { 2.018066, 1,
1.112305, 0 } },
siberia@linux-m78e:~/backup/WB_presets_02> perl wb_extract.pl
_DSC0891.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Mercury Lamp", 0, { 2.379883, 1,
1.367188, 0 } },
siberia@linux-m78e:~/backup/WB_presets_02>
siberia@linux-m78e:~/backup/WB_presets_02> perl wb_extract.pl
_DSC0892.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Cool WHT FL", 0, { 1.721191, 1,
2.064453, 0 } },
siberia@linux-m78e:~/backup/WB_presets_02>
Per Inge
> Andreas Schneider wrote:
On Thursday, 20 September 2018 13:00:33 CEST Per Inge Oestmoen wrote:
Hello Andreas,
Hi Per Inge,
Thank you, it is beautiful in the Alps, I have seen many pictures from
the Tirol area where the incomparably brilliant Swarovski binoculars are
made :-)
But straight to the matter, it is nice that you are back in the seat -
and tell me if you need any more material in some form or fashion.
I've started to update the values with the once you created, however there are
some missing:
SodiumVaporFluorescent
WarmWhiteFluorescent
WhiteFluorescent
DayWhiteFluorescent
DaylightFluorescent
HighTempMercuryVaporFluorescent
Could you create pictures with those white balance presets and provide the
values like before?
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Re: [darktable-dev] Nikon D850 - white balance presets missing
Hello Andreas, Thank you for the reply, I will create D850 RAW images from these WB presets as soon as possible and post the results: > SodiumVaporFluorescent > WarmWhiteFluorescent > WhiteFluorescent > DayWhiteFluorescent > DaylightFluorescent > HighTempMercuryVaporFluorescent Per Inge > Andreas Schneider wrote: On Thursday, 20 September 2018 13:00:33 CEST Per Inge Oestmoen wrote: Hello Andreas, Hi Per Inge, Thank you, it is beautiful in the Alps, I have seen many pictures from the Tirol area where the incomparably brilliant Swarovski binoculars are made :-) But straight to the matter, it is nice that you are back in the seat - and tell me if you need any more material in some form or fashion. I've started to update the values with the once you created, however there are some missing: SodiumVaporFluorescent WarmWhiteFluorescent WhiteFluorescent DayWhiteFluorescent DaylightFluorescent HighTempMercuryVaporFluorescent Could you create pictures with those white balance presets and provide the values like before? -- Noise Reduction is just another word for Image Destruction. Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] Nikon D850 - white balance presets missing
Hello Andreas, Thank you, it is beautiful in the Alps, I have seen many pictures from the Tirol area where the incomparably brilliant Swarovski binoculars are made :-) But straight to the matter, it is nice that you are back in the seat - and tell me if you need any more material in some form or fashion. Per Inge > Andreas Schneider wrote: On Friday, 14 September 2018 21:56:06 CEST Per Inge Oestmoen wrote: Hello again Andreas, Have the values provided been helpful in your work with the white balance presets for Nikon D850? Hi Per Inge, sorry, I was on vacation in the alps. the D850 white balance has been pushed upstream but the 1.1 firmware. I can look into getting your values in. Andreas -- Noise reduction is just another word for image destruction. Per Inge Oestmoen ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] Nikon D850 - white balance presets missing
Hello again Andreas,
Have the values provided been helpful in your work with the white
balance presets for Nikon D850?
Per Inge
> Andreas Schneider wrote:
On Friday, 7 September 2018 16:28:43 CEST Per Inge Oestmoen wrote:
Hello Andreas!
Hi Per Inge,
I have now followed the instructions and run the perl script below, and
here are the results. Please tell me if I need to do something more with
them.
> https://xor.cryptomilk.org/darktable/wb_extract.pl
I've just discovered https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/1680
Maybe check if the values match your findings.
Andreas
Sincerely,
Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway
The Nikon D850 White Balance presets:
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0360_Auto.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Auto0", 0,{ 1.30127, 1, 1.873047,
0 } },
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0361_Natural_Light_Auto.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Natural Auto", 0, { 1.852051, 1,
1.375488, 0 } },
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0362_Incandescent.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Incandescent", 0, { 1.205078, 1,
2.206543, 0 } },
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0363_Fluorescent.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Cool WHT FL", 0, { 1.721191, 1,
2.064453, 0 } },
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0364_Direct_Sunlight.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Direct sunlight", 0, { 1.900391, 1,
1.375488, 0 } },
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0365_Flash.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Flash", 0,{ 2.164063, 1,
1.204102, 0 } },
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0366_Cloudy.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Cloudy", 0, { 2.049805, 1,
1.244629, 0 } },
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0367_Shade.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Shade", 0,{ 2.396484, 1,
1.114258, 0 } },
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
> Andreas Schneider wrote:
On Saturday, 1 September 2018 12:33:15 CEST Per Inge Oestmoen wrote:
Hello,
Hello Per Inge,
I have noticed that as of September 01, 2018, there are no white balance
presets for the Nikon D850.
Are there plans to include the white balance presets for the Nikon D850
soon?
Do you need and want me to provide some RAW files in order to help you
with the process?
if you want them, you need to take a pictures and calculate them.
I wanted to create a nice python script which can extract them, but exiv2
doesn't support it yet. However the developer promised to add support for
it.
In the meantime you can use a very old perl script. I've uploaded it here:
https://xor.cryptomilk.org/darktable/wb_extract.pl
It needs exiftool.
You need to take a picture for every preset available and I've also
created
presets for the following Kelvin values:
2500K
3200K
4500K
5000K
5500K
6000K
6500K
Put the RAW files in a directory and run the perl script from above. When
shooting the pictures, note down which image number is which preset.
Sometimes you don't find the name in the RAW.
Cheers,
Andreas
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Re: [darktable-dev] Nikon D850 - white balance presets missing
Hello Andreas,
One more comment:
The "riddle" with the white balance presets at
https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/1680 has been solved:
The various Fluorescent presets are subcategories under Fluorescent, and
they are accessible through the menu on D850.
Thus, these presets come in addition to those I have just registered and
would therefore be desirable to include as well - as expected.
Sincerely,
Per Inge
> Per Inge Oestmoen wrote:
Hello again Andreas.
I have now gone to https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/1680
as you suggested.
I saw that some values were different from mine, but that is to be
expected since his D850 firmware was different from my firmware. As you
can see, his firmware was 1.01. Whereas my firmware is more recent,
namely 1.02.
But I also saw something else. On the D850, there are eight - 8
-predefined white balance presents. These are, in the following order:
- Auto
- Natural Light Auto
- Incandescent
- Fluorescent
- Direct Sunlight
- Flash
- Cloudy
- Shade
These are all the presets that are on the D850.
From these 8 presets, I got the following values listed in the same
order for clarity:
The Nikon D850 White Balance presets: (Firmware 1.02)
Auto: { "NIKON", "D850", "Auto0", 0, { 1.30127, 1, 1.873047, 0 } },
Natural Light Auto: { "NIKON", "D850", "Natural Auto", 0, { 1.852051,
1, 1.375488, 0 } },
Incandescent: { "NIKON", "D850", "Incandescent", 0, { 1.205078, 1,
2.206543, 0 } },
Fluorescent: { "NIKON", "D850", "Cool WHT FL", 0, { 1.721191, 1,
2.064453, 0 } },
Direct Sunlight: { "NIKON", "D850", "Direct sunlight", 0, { 1.900391,
1, 1.375488, 0 } },
Flash: { "NIKON", "D850", "Flash", 0, { 2.164063, 1, 1.204102, 0 } },
Cloudy: { "NIKON", "D850", "Cloudy", 0, { 2.049805, 1, 1.244629, 0 } },
Shade: { "NIKON", "D850", "Shade", 0, { 2.396484, 1, 1.114258, 0 } },
Whereas, on https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/1680 I saw
the following:
Incandescent: { "Nikon", "D850", Incandescent , 0, { 1.205078125, 1,
2.206542969, 0 } },
CoolWhiteFluorescent: { "Nikon", "D850", CoolWhiteFluorescent , 0, {
1.721191406, 1, 2.064453125, 0 } },
DirectSunLight: { "Nikon", "D850", DirectSunlight , 0, { 1.900390625, 1,
1.375488281, 0 } }
Flash: { "Nikon", "D850", Flash , 0, { 2.1640625, 1, 1.204101562, 0 } },
Cloudy: { "Nikon", "D850", Cloudy , 0, { 2.049804688, 1, 1.244628906, 0
} },
Shade: { "Nikon", "D850", Shade , 0, { 2.396484375, 1, 1.114257812, 0 } },
SodiumVaporFluorescent: { "Nikon", "D850", SodiumVaporFluorescent , 0, {
1.121582031, 1, 2.477050781, 0 } },
WarmWhiteFluorescent: { "Nikon", "D850", WarmWhiteFluorescent , 0, {
1.208496094, 1, 1.979003906, 0 } },
WhiteFluorescent: { "Nikon", "D850", WhiteFluorescent , 0, {
1.377929688, 1, 2.361328125, 0 } },
DayWhiteFluorescent: { "Nikon", "D850", DayWhiteFluorescent , 0, {
1.76953125, 1, 1.3984375, 0 } },
DaylightFluorescent: { "Nikon", "D850", DaylightFluorescent , 0, {
2.018066406, 1, 1.112304688, 0 } },
HighTempMercuryVaporFluorescent: { "Nikon", "D850",
HighTempMercuryVaporFluorescent , 0, { 2.379882812, 1, 1.3671875, 0 } },
The results on https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/1680 are
different from mine in a number of ways.
There is no "Auto" white balance, which is crucially important. There
also is no "Natural Light Auto", there is no plain "Fluorescent" but a
number of different fluorescents which I presume are custom WB values. I
think that cannot harm, but be aware that these are not included in the
D850 white balance presets - which are the 8 ones I extracted. The 8
from the camera should be included first and foremost, since they are
those that come with the D850.
Then there are the different values, and why they are different. Here,
we know that the firmwares were also different as mentioned. I put my
RAW files (NEF) in the directory and used the perl script
https://xor.cryptomilk.org/darktable/wb_extract.pl exactly as instructed.
I hope I have managed to add to the clarification of the matter. Thank
you so much for the attention, and do no hesitate to ask me if there are
any questions.
Sincerely,
Per Inge
> Andreas Schneider wrote:
On Friday, 7 September 2018 16:28:43 CEST Per Inge Oestmoen wrote:
Hello Andreas!
Hi Per Inge,
I have now followed the instructions and run the perl script below, and
her
Re: [darktable-dev] Nikon D850 - white balance presets missing
Hello again Andreas.
I have now gone to https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/1680
as you suggested.
I saw that some values were different from mine, but that is to be
expected since his D850 firmware was different from my firmware. As you
can see, his firmware was 1.01. Whereas my firmware is more recent,
namely 1.02.
But I also saw something else. On the D850, there are eight - 8
-predefined white balance presents. These are, in the following order:
- Auto
- Natural Light Auto
- Incandescent
- Fluorescent
- Direct Sunlight
- Flash
- Cloudy
- Shade
These are all the presets that are on the D850.
From these 8 presets, I got the following values listed in the same
order for clarity:
The Nikon D850 White Balance presets: (Firmware 1.02)
Auto: { "NIKON", "D850", "Auto0", 0, { 1.30127, 1, 1.873047, 0 } },
Natural Light Auto: { "NIKON", "D850", "Natural Auto", 0, { 1.852051,
1, 1.375488, 0 } },
Incandescent: { "NIKON", "D850", "Incandescent", 0, { 1.205078, 1,
2.206543, 0 } },
Fluorescent: { "NIKON", "D850", "Cool WHT FL", 0, { 1.721191, 1,
2.064453, 0 } },
Direct Sunlight: { "NIKON", "D850", "Direct sunlight", 0, { 1.900391,
1, 1.375488, 0 } },
Flash: { "NIKON", "D850", "Flash", 0, { 2.164063, 1, 1.204102, 0 } },
Cloudy: { "NIKON", "D850", "Cloudy", 0, { 2.049805, 1, 1.244629, 0 } },
Shade: { "NIKON", "D850", "Shade", 0, { 2.396484, 1, 1.114258, 0 } },
Whereas, on https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/1680 I saw
the following:
Incandescent: { "Nikon", "D850", Incandescent , 0, { 1.205078125, 1,
2.206542969, 0 } },
CoolWhiteFluorescent: { "Nikon", "D850", CoolWhiteFluorescent , 0, {
1.721191406, 1, 2.064453125, 0 } },
DirectSunLight: { "Nikon", "D850", DirectSunlight , 0, { 1.900390625, 1,
1.375488281, 0 } }
Flash: { "Nikon", "D850", Flash , 0, { 2.1640625, 1, 1.204101562, 0 } },
Cloudy: { "Nikon", "D850", Cloudy , 0, { 2.049804688, 1, 1.244628906, 0
} },
Shade: { "Nikon", "D850", Shade , 0, { 2.396484375, 1, 1.114257812, 0 } },
SodiumVaporFluorescent: { "Nikon", "D850", SodiumVaporFluorescent , 0, {
1.121582031, 1, 2.477050781, 0 } },
WarmWhiteFluorescent: { "Nikon", "D850", WarmWhiteFluorescent , 0, {
1.208496094, 1, 1.979003906, 0 } },
WhiteFluorescent: { "Nikon", "D850", WhiteFluorescent , 0, {
1.377929688, 1, 2.361328125, 0 } },
DayWhiteFluorescent: { "Nikon", "D850", DayWhiteFluorescent , 0, {
1.76953125, 1, 1.3984375, 0 } },
DaylightFluorescent: { "Nikon", "D850", DaylightFluorescent , 0, {
2.018066406, 1, 1.112304688, 0 } },
HighTempMercuryVaporFluorescent: { "Nikon", "D850",
HighTempMercuryVaporFluorescent , 0, { 2.379882812, 1, 1.3671875, 0 } },
The results on https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/1680 are
different from mine in a number of ways.
There is no "Auto" white balance, which is crucially important. There
also is no "Natural Light Auto", there is no plain "Fluorescent" but a
number of different fluorescents which I presume are custom WB values. I
think that cannot harm, but be aware that these are not included in the
D850 white balance presets - which are the 8 ones I extracted. The 8
from the camera should be included first and foremost, since they are
those that come with the D850.
Then there are the different values, and why they are different. Here,
we know that the firmwares were also different as mentioned. I put my
RAW files (NEF) in the directory and used the perl script
https://xor.cryptomilk.org/darktable/wb_extract.pl exactly as instructed.
I hope I have managed to add to the clarification of the matter. Thank
you so much for the attention, and do no hesitate to ask me if there are
any questions.
Sincerely,
Per Inge
> Andreas Schneider wrote:
On Friday, 7 September 2018 16:28:43 CEST Per Inge Oestmoen wrote:
Hello Andreas!
Hi Per Inge,
I have now followed the instructions and run the perl script below, and
here are the results. Please tell me if I need to do something more with
them.
> https://xor.cryptomilk.org/darktable/wb_extract.pl
I've just discovered https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/1680
Maybe check if the values match your findings.
Andreas
Sincerely,
Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway
The Nikon D850 White Balance presets:
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0360_Auto.NEF
Re: [darktable-dev] Nikon D850 - white balance presets missing
Hello Andreas!
I have now followed the instructions and run the perl script below, and
here are the results. Please tell me if I need to do something more with
them.
> https://xor.cryptomilk.org/darktable/wb_extract.pl
Sincerely,
Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway
The Nikon D850 White Balance presets:
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0360_Auto.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Auto0", 0,{ 1.30127, 1, 1.873047,
0 } },
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0361_Natural_Light_Auto.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Natural Auto", 0, { 1.852051, 1,
1.375488, 0 } },
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0362_Incandescent.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Incandescent", 0, { 1.205078, 1,
2.206543, 0 } },
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0363_Fluorescent.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Cool WHT FL", 0, { 1.721191, 1,
2.064453, 0 } },
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0364_Direct_Sunlight.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Direct sunlight", 0, { 1.900391, 1,
1.375488, 0 } },
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0365_Flash.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Flash", 0,{ 2.164063, 1,
1.204102, 0 } },
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0366_Cloudy.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Cloudy", 0, { 2.049805, 1,
1.244629, 0 } },
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
perl wb_extract.pl _DSC0367_Shade.NEF
{ "NIKON", "D850", "Shade", 0,{ 2.396484, 1,
1.114258, 0 } },
siberia@linux-hf6b:/run/media/siberia/WD_Passport/Nikon_D850_WB_presets>
> Andreas Schneider wrote:
On Saturday, 1 September 2018 12:33:15 CEST Per Inge Oestmoen wrote:
Hello,
Hello Per Inge,
I have noticed that as of September 01, 2018, there are no white balance
presets for the Nikon D850.
Are there plans to include the white balance presets for the Nikon D850
soon?
Do you need and want me to provide some RAW files in order to help you
with the process?
if you want them, you need to take a pictures and calculate them.
I wanted to create a nice python script which can extract them, but exiv2
doesn't support it yet. However the developer promised to add support for it.
In the meantime you can use a very old perl script. I've uploaded it here:
https://xor.cryptomilk.org/darktable/wb_extract.pl
It needs exiftool.
You need to take a picture for every preset available and I've also created
presets for the following Kelvin values:
2500K
3200K
4500K
5000K
5500K
6000K
6500K
Put the RAW files in a directory and run the perl script from above. When
shooting the pictures, note down which image number is which preset. Sometimes
you don't find the name in the RAW.
Cheers,
Andreas
--
Noise reduction is just another word for image destruction.
Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway
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