For what its worth, I read Matthias Andree's responses as perfectly reasonable. Yes the words were not exceedingly polite, but the gruffness was backed with explanation. I certainly did not read any ad hominem attacks.
I was always of the opinion that if you stick with an LTS version of a distro, you are stuck with *exactly* what the distro decides is worthy of LTS support. Especially in this new world of flatpaks. For the record, I run slackware since forever, so building code from source as a package is something I have to do now and then. I would never dream of asking the darktable devs to maintain a slackware SlackBuild, let alone an installable package. And when Mr. Volkerding and the inner slackware cabal decide that it is time to release a new version, one upgrades shortly thereafter. Regards, and back to lurking, James On Wed, Jan 04, 2023 at 07:43:10AM -0800, Mica Semrick wrote: > You're making a lot of assumptions here. Seems like you have some deeper > issue than someone asking a simple question about support. Maybe a break from > the computer is in order. > > Happy new year > -m > > On January 4, 2023 7:33:59 AM PST, Matthias Andree <matthias.and...@gmx.de> > wrote: > >Am 04.01.23 um 15:58 schrieb Mica Semrick: > >> This answer is a bit rude and doesn't answer the original query. > > > >It may be rude if you consider "who cares" rude, and prevents people > >from wasting their time while pointing out the actual issue, which is > >"old distro" which is too old to build darktable 4.2. > > > >> There is an unmet dependency in Ubuntu 20.04 and the latest release > >> can no longer be built. See > >> https://discuss.pixls.us/t/what-happened-with-the-obs-builds/33588/2?u=darix > >> for > >> more information. > > > >Thanks for mass-confirming what I was writing. > > > >And scared users in that thread posted in November 2022, 7 months after > >release, that they still considered Ubuntu "new", when 22.04.1 was out > >and from-LTS-to-next-LTS upgrades had been enabled. Exactly the kind of > >support open-source maintainers want to be distracted with. I haven't > >even looked whether the OBS people are the same as the darktable people, > >but you'd think it best to move things forward rather than tying them up > >in the past. > > > >The thing is you can't have the cake and eat it, so everyone please stop > >pretending they could. > > > >Ubuntu 20.04 (code-named focal fossa) shipped darktable 3.0, and > >darktable being in the "universe" community-unmaintained package set... > >being stuck with older darktable is a choice that people made by NOT > >upgrading their Ubuntu LTS in the past three months. > >https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=focal&searchon=names&keywords=darktable > > > >And it's also either you choose a Ubuntu LTS distro and live with > >whatever unmaintained ("universe") package came with it, and be stuck > >with it, or you pick something that installs an app and all its distro > >deps redundantly in a distro (snap or flatpack, if available) with all > >the drawbacks of its isolation and bulk, or you need to move to a distro > >that is up to speed if your interest is "new software" and integrates > >such quickly. Rolling or frequent releases and distros exist, but that's > >not Ubuntu LTS, and possibly no Debian-based distro at all. > > > >Having said that, Fedora 37 or FreeBSD 13.1 built darktable 4.2 nicely > >for me. > > > >I wonder why all the world can expect everyone to maintain every new > >package for their museum piece of desktop distro install and NOT be > >considered rude. Expecting someone to maintain software or packages > >thereof for older distros, on a voluntary basis, free of charge, is what > >I consider egoistic and rude. It is an enormous waste of resources. > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > >darktable developer mailing list > >to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > darktable developer mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > -- James E. Marca Activimetrics LLC ___________________________________________________________________________ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
