Re: [darktable-dev] Re: enable DMARC to avoid messages being classified as spam
All the mails in this discussion I receive here (I received 5) are treated as spam by Gmail and moved to Spam, although they are not marked as spam. Le mer. 3 avr. 2024 à 23:52, Patrick Shanahan a écrit : > > * Germano Massullo [04-03-24 16:22]: > > Hello, can you please take action? GMail is everyday marking messages from > > darktable mailing lists as spam > > Thank you > > you have a *local* problem. I cannot recall a darktable mail marked as > spam here nor of anyone else commenting. > > > -- > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc > ___ > darktable developer mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] Re: enable DMARC to avoid messages being classified as spam
* Germano Massullo [04-03-24 16:22]: > Hello, can you please take action? GMail is everyday marking messages from > darktable mailing lists as spam > Thank you you have a *local* problem. I cannot recall a darktable mail marked as spam here nor of anyone else commenting. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] Re: enable DMARC to avoid messages being classified as spam
On 2024-04-03 15:39, Jørn Villesen Christensen wrote: Hi there, Looking at the header of the mail I receive from this list, I *think* there is something that could be done to help gmail. The header states: Authentication-Results: mx3.***.dk; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=web.de (policy=quarantine); spf=pass (mx3.***.dk: domain ofSRS0=nkjO=LI=lists.darktable.org=darktable-...@ml.darktable.org designates 195.201.91.78 as permitted sender)smtp.mailfrom=SRS0=nkjO=LI=lists.darktable.org=darktable-...@ml.darktable.org So while it seems that there is a valid spf record, somehow it is also marked not aligned. The whole DMARC etc. business does not seem to be a good match for mailing list traffic. Unfortunately Gmail (unlike some other services) doesn't seem to mind this… -- Šarūnas Burdulis math.dartmouth.edu/~sarunas · https://useplaintext.email · OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [darktable-dev] Re: enable DMARC to avoid messages being classified as spam
Hi there, Looking at the header of the mail I receive from this list, I *think* there is something that could be done to help gmail. The header states: Authentication-Results: mx3.***.dk; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=web.de (policy=quarantine); spf=pass (mx3.***.dk: domain ofSRS0=nkjO=LI=lists.darktable.org=darktable-...@ml.darktable.org designates 195.201.91.78 as permitted sender)smtp.mailfrom=SRS0=nkjO=LI=lists.darktable.org=darktable-...@ml.darktable.org So while it seems that there is a valid spf record, somehow it is also marked not aligned. I asked for help from GPT, and got this answer: Ensure SPF Alignment: Make sure that the domain in the Return-Path aligns with the domain in the From header. I am unsure if that is a good answer... I mean... I thought the idea with From and Return-Path could be different. The From is the address of the sender, while Return-Path should be the mailing list. I don't know... just putting this out there so that someone smarter than me sees it and can make sense of it :) BR Jørn On 03/04/2024 09.50, Jan Ingwer Baer wrote: The problem is more on the side of GMail, then on the side of the darktable list-server. A dmarc entry check against the 'From:' field in the message header, which is the e-mail address of the original sender (In your case: gmail.com). GMail has to extend the spam detection for correct processing of mailing lists. Every change that could be done on the side of darktable would violate standards for e-mails, which is never a good idea. Have a look the the wikipedia entry for DMARC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMARC On 02-Apr-24 22:43, Germano Massullo wrote: Hello, can you please take action? GMail is everyday marking messages from darktable mailing lists as spam Thank you ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] Re: enable DMARC to avoid messages being classified as spam
The problem is more on the side of GMail, then on the side of the darktable list-server. A dmarc entry check against the 'From:' field in the message header, which is the e-mail address of the original sender (In your case: gmail.com). GMail has to extend the spam detection for correct processing of mailing lists. Every change that could be done on the side of darktable would violate standards for e-mails, which is never a good idea. Have a look the the wikipedia entry for DMARC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMARC On 02-Apr-24 22:43, Germano Massullo wrote: Hello, can you please take action? GMail is everyday marking messages from darktable mailing lists as spam Thank you ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Re: enable DMARC to avoid messages being classified as spam
Hello, can you please take action? GMail is everyday marking messages from darktable mailing lists as spam Thank you ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
