Re: [darktable-user] darktable-chart and missing colorin "standard color matrix"

2020-01-03 Thread jys
On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, at 06:19, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Niccolo Rigacci  [01-03-20 07:00]:
>
> > First of all I wonder why the dtstyle created by darktable-chart 
> > includes the module "input color profile". Shouldn't rather the 
> > input profile be added by me, if required?

Probably to make sure the input profile being used with the applied style is 
the same one that was used to create the style in the first place, otherwise 
the results won't be valid. Did you create the style using a camera RAW file 
and its associated "standard" color matrix? If so, that's what you should be 
using the style on, and there should still be a "standard" matrix available at 
colorin. If not, then you need to alter the style so that the input profile 
being used is the same one as when creating the style (if it was a profile 
embedded in your input image, just remove the input color profile part of the 
style, and only use it with same type of files).

> your problem may stem from version as many new features were introduced
> and dt is now at 3.0 with development on 3.1+

...or at least update to 2.6.3 patch level if you don't want to go 3.0 yet.

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[darktable-user] Pentax-D FA 24-70mm f/2.8 ED SDM WR not recognized using Ubuntu 19.10

2020-01-03 Thread Аl Воgnеr
From /var/lib/lensfun-updates/version_2/slr-pentax.xml



Pentax
HD Pentax-D FA 24-70mm f/2.8 ED SDM WR
Pentax KAF3
1


I had this lens with Ubuntu 18.04 working already with a file in
/.local/share/lensfun The old file doesn't work in Ubuntu 19.10
anymore, I mean it is not recognized automatically. It works when I
assign the lens manually. The lens is shown 2 times in darktable. (HD
Pentax vs. HD PENTAX and f2.8 vs f/2.8. In earlier discussion I've
been told, that this shouldn't matter. I am very unsure, if this is
true with Ubuntu-versions, because I got some lenses working with 18.04
adding a 2nd name with things like "/", 

With a Ricoh fixed lens (GR III), it was said, that the "mount" has to
begin with a lowercase letter, which isn't the case here.


My version is at /.local/share/lensfun




Pentax
HD PENTAX-D FA 24-70mm F2.8 ED SDM WR
Pentax KAF3
1


[MakerNotes]0x0001 Lens Type   :
HD PENTAX-D FA 24-70mm F2.8 ED SDM WR

exiv2 doesn't recognize the lens with Ubuntu 19.10, but I do not
understand while it worked already with 18.04

Al

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[darktable-user] Export of a folder with the command line

2020-01-03 Thread Аl Воgnеr
How can I export a folder of images with dng / xmp files? So I mean all
the image files of a folder and not only 1 image. Can this be done with
a 1 line command?

The files should be written in another directory.

Quality 98

The size should be as it is, except it is a small image from an old
camera or a lot cropped.

The *minimal* size should be für 3:2 3840 (width) and 2560 (height) for
landscape photos and in portrait mode, it should be 2:3 = 1707 (width)
and 2560 (height). If the image is slower it should be upscaled, but
larger images should *not* be downscaled.

It should be not smaller. Since the crop is not done exactly 3:2 by dt
when it is drawn with the mouse, I use 3843 x 2562 for upscaling in
landscape mode and 1709 for portraits to be sure, that I do not have to
upscale a 2nd time, when I need an exact value. For me a few pixles
more are better than less.

Al

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Re: [darktable-user] Migration of old XMP sidecar files to current dt version

2020-01-03 Thread Bernhard

Hi Manuel,

I've come a long way since darktable 1.4 but never had such an issue 
changing from older to newer versions. Going the other way round will 
corrupt many things - a warning is issued with the release notes every time.
That said - in spite of that compatiblity I often rework older images 
since I'm not happy what I had done years ago now ...


So my only clue is that this is a temporary problem with 3.1 as this is 
unstable.


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Manuel Presnitz schrieb am 03.01.20 um 18:34:

Hello altogether,

I'm using darktable for some month now and I'm really impressed by its 
capabilities and I also like
its interface. So, first of all thanks a lot for you years-long efforts!

What I'm currently wondering is how should I handle different module versions 
in different darktable
versions when archiving my editing history in xmp sidecar files?!

To give an example where I stumbled upon this problem(?) recently: I edited 
some pictures with the
current stable version (3.0.0), including the "basic adjustment" module. As I'm 
always curious to
test new things, I also built the current dev version (3.1.0+289~gf788bfff3) 
and imported a copy of
the dt-3.0-edited photos together with their 3.0-sidecar files.

Upon doing that I get the message: "module 'basicadj' version mismatch: 2 != 1" 
on various pictures.
So far I understand the message, as dt 3.0 wrote modversion="1" into the 
sidecar file and dt 3.1 has
modversion="2" of the (redesigned) basic adjustment module.

But I don't understand how I can work around that issue. The imported pictures 
simply lack the
editing step of the basic adjustment module, which effectively altered the 
result.

Is this only a dev version problem and final stable versions get conversion 
routines for older
module versions? (Some modules have modversion as high a 6, so this phenomenon 
should've
occured already multiple times)

Or how do you archive your editing history? Just using old sidecar files with 
new dt versions seem
not to guarantee the same (or at least a similar, neglecting implementation 
differences) final
image. Do I have to document which dt version I used for which photos and keep 
that version as long
as possible if I want to make changes to older pictures?

Sorry if that's a frequent and/or silly question, but I could neither find a 
clue on the mailing
list archive, nor the FAQ. However, I'm pretty sure I'm not the first one who 
is wondering about
that point, so I's really appreciate your opinions or if you can give me a clue 
where to find
information about migration of xmp files from older dt versions.

Thanks a lot & best regards,
Manuel.



Just for completeness my current machine configuration:

Arch Linux
Intel Xeon E3-1535M v5
Nvidia Quadro M2000M, Driver 440.44
darktable 3.1.0+289~gf788bfff3



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[darktable-user] Migration of old XMP sidecar files to current dt version

2020-01-03 Thread Manuel Presnitz
Hello altogether,

I'm using darktable for some month now and I'm really impressed by its 
capabilities and I also like
its interface. So, first of all thanks a lot for you years-long efforts!

What I'm currently wondering is how should I handle different module versions 
in different darktable
versions when archiving my editing history in xmp sidecar files?!

To give an example where I stumbled upon this problem(?) recently: I edited 
some pictures with the
current stable version (3.0.0), including the "basic adjustment" module. As I'm 
always curious to
test new things, I also built the current dev version (3.1.0+289~gf788bfff3) 
and imported a copy of
the dt-3.0-edited photos together with their 3.0-sidecar files.

Upon doing that I get the message: "module 'basicadj' version mismatch: 2 != 1" 
on various pictures.
So far I understand the message, as dt 3.0 wrote modversion="1" into the 
sidecar file and dt 3.1 has
modversion="2" of the (redesigned) basic adjustment module.

But I don't understand how I can work around that issue. The imported pictures 
simply lack the
editing step of the basic adjustment module, which effectively altered the 
result.

Is this only a dev version problem and final stable versions get conversion 
routines for older
module versions? (Some modules have modversion as high a 6, so this phenomenon 
should've
occured already multiple times)

Or how do you archive your editing history? Just using old sidecar files with 
new dt versions seem
not to guarantee the same (or at least a similar, neglecting implementation 
differences) final
image. Do I have to document which dt version I used for which photos and keep 
that version as long
as possible if I want to make changes to older pictures?

Sorry if that's a frequent and/or silly question, but I could neither find a 
clue on the mailing
list archive, nor the FAQ. However, I'm pretty sure I'm not the first one who 
is wondering about
that point, so I's really appreciate your opinions or if you can give me a clue 
where to find
information about migration of xmp files from older dt versions.

Thanks a lot & best regards,
Manuel.



Just for completeness my current machine configuration:

Arch Linux
Intel Xeon E3-1535M v5
Nvidia Quadro M2000M, Driver 440.44
darktable 3.1.0+289~gf788bfff3



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Re: [darktable-user] darktable-chart and missing colorin "standard color matrix"

2020-01-03 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Niccolo Rigacci  [01-03-20 07:00]:
> Hello Darktable users!
> 
> I'm playing with a ColorChecker and the darktable-chart program 
> to produce a good Darktable style to apply in my workflow.
> 
> First of all I wonder why the dtstyle created by darktable-chart 
> includes the module "input color profile". Shouldn't rather the 
> input profile be added by me, if required?
> 
> The second question is about that input color profile: it seems 
> invalid because whenever I apply the style I get the following 
> error message in the text console:
> 
> [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
> 
> then I find that the sRGB colorin profile is applied indeed, 
> modifying badly the photo (too washed out!), so that I have to 
> remove it.
> 
> Do I have a bug on my Darktable installation? What is that 
> "standard color matrix" profile? My environment is:
> 
>   * Darktable 2.6.0
>   * GNU/Linux Debian 10.2 Buster

your problem may stem from version as many new features were introduced
and dt is now at 3.0 with development on 3.1+

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Re: [darktable-user] Bug with mask opacity?

2020-01-03 Thread Giulio Roman
> Can you test https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/3969

Hi Pascal,

I confirm that it works fine.
Thanks for fixing it so quickly.

Have a nice new year.
Giulio

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[darktable-user] darktable-chart and missing colorin "standard color matrix"

2020-01-03 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
Hello Darktable users!

I'm playing with a ColorChecker and the darktable-chart program 
to produce a good Darktable style to apply in my workflow.

First of all I wonder why the dtstyle created by darktable-chart 
includes the module "input color profile". Shouldn't rather the 
input profile be added by me, if required?

The second question is about that input color profile: it seems 
invalid because whenever I apply the style I get the following 
error message in the text console:

[colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!

then I find that the sRGB colorin profile is applied indeed, 
modifying badly the photo (too washed out!), so that I have to 
remove it.

Do I have a bug on my Darktable installation? What is that 
"standard color matrix" profile? My environment is:

  * Darktable 2.6.0
  * GNU/Linux Debian 10.2 Buster

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[darktable-user] Trouble with Retouch module

2020-01-03 Thread andrew
Hi I installed DT from a ppa yesterday and was over the moon, but today I 
needed the retouch module, and the selected tools, brush, circle and ellipse 
all appeared at a very large size and would not submit to attempts to 
resize.Any suggestionsGratefullyAndrew GreigSent from Samsung tablet.

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[darktable-user] removing broken storage and zoomable lighttable

2020-01-03 Thread Pascal Obry


Please see:

https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/4008

And feel free to comment.

Thanks,

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Re: [darktable-user] Weird artifacts with color zones module in V3

2020-01-03 Thread Ulrich Pegelow
I confirm that the color zones module easily produces artifacts. This 
happens especially on changes of the lightness curve. And obviously with 
"process mode = strong" you may get artifacts almost immediately.


As far as I can see 2.6 has not been much different. In the old version 
everything has been processed as if "process mode = smooth" had been 
selected but even then you would usually see artifacts on close inspection.


I think this needs some more care in the module. The root cause seems to 
be the granular properties of the intermediate mask in that module. Not 
uncommon if you select by hue which tends to have marked variations from 
pixel to pixel. And it's also logical that a change to the lightness 
curve triggers more problems. Lightness artifacts are easily seen, much 
more than small color inconsistencies.


A possible solution could be to offer a blurring option for the mask 
(probably best done with a bilateral filter). That's something to 
consider for 3.2.


Currently I suggest to use "process mode = smooth" in any case where you 
want to adjust lightness. Another suggestion is to not make a too narrow 
selection in the lightness curve (on hue basis). The new module version 
together with the range selecting color picker invites you to produce 
very narrow, specific peaks in the curves. But then you end up with a 
very granular mask. If you make the peak broader (as you probably did in 
2.6) much of the artifacts are gone.



Am 30.12.19 um 23:28 schrieb Giulio Roman:

Hi,

since upgrade to v3 I am struggling using the color zones module.

With 2.6 I had to really push it to see artifacts. Now it seems much easier.

I have a basic landscape picture with light blue sky and subtle clouds. I'm 
trying to increase the blues and darken them.

If I use the defaults of the color zones module I see artifacts as soon as I 
move slightly downwards the lighness curve in the blues (after increasing 
saturation around the same hue values).

If, instead, I choose the preset "black and white film", then move the whole 
saturation curve back to 0 (keeping the points scattered around the hue axis), and 
increase the saturation in the blues, I can then drop the lightness much more and get a 
better result. It basically seems that having more points scattered around the hue axis 
helps in not getting artifacts on the clouds.

Has there been changes also in the module's inner functionality, or just in the 
UI?

Or am I totally missing something?

I don't remember if the "process mode = strong" was already present in 2.6, however 
changing it to "smooth" helps a little bit but does not solve the problem. It just blands 
the effect.

I'm usually a person who welcomes changes, and even though I initially find 
something new difficult, I try until I succeed before judging negatively. But 
this time i'm having serious issues in using a module which was one of my 
default gotos before...

Please someone shine a light on this :-)

Thanks in advance
Giulio


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