Re: [darktable-user] Internal browser

[Simon Wren]

 
 
  
   You can right click on an image in your file browser and select Open With -> darktable, or set darktable to be the default application to open your camera's file type, so you could just work from your operating system's file browser. 
  
  
   
  
  
   Is there a specific reason you don't want to use a database-based system?
  
  
     
  
  
   
On 28/02/2021 18:58 KOVÁCS István  wrote:
   
   

   
   

   
   
RawTherapee and ART (and I think Photoflow also) work without
   
   
importing. Filmulator imports images, just like darktable.
   
   
If you don't want a database with darktable, it's doable: you can set
   
   
the library to be in-memory (it'll start empty every time). You can
   
   
simply open images with darktable name-of-image.ext. This is described
   
   
here: https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/special-topics/program-invocation/darktable/

   
   

   
   
I'm not sure if it is possible to:
   
   
- send a file to an already open instance of darktable;
   
   
- set the data.db file (which stores your tags, styles, presets...)
   
   
separately from your library (you'd probably still want to create and
   
   
reuse such styles and settings, even if the library is only stored in
   
   
memory).
   
   

   
   
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Re: [darktable-user] Again... SD-Card import on Win10

[Simon Wren]

 
 
  
   Try using Rapid Photo Downloader to copy the files from the card onto your hard drive. You can setup templates to automatically create the required directories (folders) using key data (date, time etc.). 
   
  
  
   
  
  
   https://damonlynch.net/rapid/download.html
  
  
   
  
  
   
On 21/02/2021 21:50 Guillermo Rozas  wrote:
   
   

   
   

   
   

 
  I'm still struggling with the import function of dt. I'm trying to import pictures from a SD-Card inside a Card-Reader. Within Windows 10, the card-reader works flawless and I can read from and write to any sd-card attached. But dt doesn't give me the option to import from the card directly. As I've already learned, there should be a button in the import-dialogue. But it doesn't appear here. 
  
 
 
  
 
 
  Is your card being automatically mounted by Windows? darktable won't offer you to import directly from the card if it is mounted (and unmounting it before makes it disappear from the system, so probably not a solution either).
 
 
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Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

[Simon Wren]

 
 
  
   Well as a complete newbie to dt who hasn't got much beyond importing images, I think it's ridiculous and outrageous that the developers refuse to please all of the people all of the time :-)
   
  
  
   
On 15/02/2021 14:28 Patrick Shanahan  wrote:
   
   

   
   

   
   
* Willy Williams  [02-15-21 09:25]:
   
   

 I have to wonder if there's a publicly-available document that outlines the


 reasons for the pipe to be as it is such that those of us users that are not


 developers can understand the pipe and appreciate the thinking that went


 into the design of the pipe?


 


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 On 2/15/21 7:52 AM, Pascal Obry wrote:


 
  Le lundi 15 février 2021 à 13:30 +0100, Kneops a écrit :
 
 
  
   Okay. This has nothing to do by the way from what I used to do with
  
  
   other tools,
  
 
 
  Then use another tool.
 
 
  
 
 
  
   it's the way imho the mind and the eye works. When I open
  
  
   an image and it is too dark or too bright, I want to correct that
  
  
   first.
  
  
   Then I see it is a bit too yellow, then I want to correct that. Then
  
  
   perhaps cropping and straightening etc. The visual ordering of
  
  
   modules should have nothing to do with the pipeline.
  
 
 
  Then you completely miss the fact that the order IS important as they
 
 
  are run through the pipe in a specific order and so does interact in
 
 
  different way if no at the same location. That would be like saying
 
 
  that the mask in GIMP should be rearranged without having any impact on
 
 
  the final rendering. This is just plain wrong, and if you don't want to
 
 
  understand that or that is not the way you want the tool to be working
 
 
  then fine... Please use another tool. This won't change in dt because
 
 
  it cannot be changed.
 
 
  
 
 
  
   This makes me feel again that DT is mostly for techies.
  
 
 
  No, but people who understand what they do.
 
 
  
 
 
  
 


 


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perhaps the fine documentation,
   
   
https://darktable-org.github.io/dtdocs/darkroom/pixelpipe/the-pixelpipe-and-module-order/

   
   

   
   
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Re: [darktable-user] Import: I'm failing at step 1; advice please

[Simon Wren]

 
 
  
   My (limited) understanding of the import function of darktable is that it's not for effectively copying images from one location to another (i.e., from a camera memory card to a hard disk) but rather for copying details about images which exist on some medium (e.g., a hard disk). Such that it's importing not the files themselves, but details about the files. 
   
  
  
   
  
  
   I'm mostly using Linux these days so do use Rapid Photo Downloader, but when I used LR and Windows (many moons ago) I used Downloader Pro quite successfully to copy images from cards onto hard drives: 
  
  
   
  
  
   https://www.breezesys.com/solutions/breeze-downloader/
   
  
  
   On 25 June 2020 at 18:38 tony Hamilton  wrote: 
   
   
   
   This is an update after a few days of intense, all-day, reading and experimentation with the import function of DarkTable 3.0.2. What I am going to write here is at considerable length and will not be well received by the Darktable development team. It is my personal opinion; it reflects my skill as a programmer (essentially non-existent) and the experience using DT on my system. This caveat is not a cop-out: the major cause of my problems with Darktable import looks like a Windows problem (compounded by a design decision by the DT development team.). This means that some Windows systems will behave as expected; mine do not.
   I find the import function in Darktable to be essentially dis-functional and dangerous In my environment: there is the risk of loss of data which is more probable than when using any of the other raw processors I am considering, with the exception of RawTherapee. For my circumstance there is no way that I will use the import function in DT (or Rawtherapee) even for those limited cases where the function works at all.
   I have 4 computers running Win 10; 2 of them dual boot to Linux Mint 19.3 (Cinnamon and XFCE). Most of my comments apply to the Windows configuration. I would prefer to run DT in Linux, but a key requirement I have – a robust and functionally adequate DAM – is currently met by a Windows-only product: iMatch.
   There is no Windows configuration in which I can safely import either from a media card in a reader or with a camera USB connected to the PC. I have 2 cameras: Canon and Fuji. When using a card reader, the reader is never discovered when I scan for connected devices. The media card is however identified as a folder, with a drive ID. This is fatal: DT now regards this drive as part of the database, so the included images become unavailable as soon as the reader is removed from the PC. But worse – much worse -is that DT will write on this device as soon as it is selected as a folder. This awful: here is the scenario: you have taken some valuable photos. Until you have been able to COPY them into your photo processing system, the ONLY place they exist is on the media card. But now DT writes data on that card, over which you have no control (which explains why DT was able to load 72 of 52 images I thought I had on my card). This is absolutely unacceptable to me. None of the other raw processors I am testing (Lightroom, Capture 1, Exposure, DXO, OnOne, DigiKam) will do this (Rawtherapee does). They will explicitly ask for permission to change the media in any way – usually to delete images that have been ingested. DT (and RT) are unique in their inability to differentiate between importing via Copy and importing via making a link.
   The reason DT treat it as a folder is because the card reader is assigned a drive letter, being Automounted. Google shows that many people have asked how to stop this. But more worrying is that there are even more people who have asked why the techniques to prevent automount do not work in Win 10. There is no resolution from Microsoft to date for this problem. The best they can offer is to do trouble shooting, which requires use of the Group Policy Editor. That is, if you want to find more data to help MS solve the problem, you have to buy the professional version of Win 10. I’m not going to do that to solve a problem in DT! The implication from MS’s position is that this problem does not occur on every PC – so your system my be OK. None of mine are.
   But is gets worse: if you attempt to disable automount, this actually works for real hard drives. This knocks out my key backup devices – a set of large USB drives in a grandfather/father/son usage model. There is no way I am going to commit updates to my DAM without a functional backup. So the advice I have received from this mailing list, to disable automount, is not advice I will follow.
   A not dissimilar situation exist when trying to import directly from the camera: under windows only one of my computers running DT discovers and then only my Fuji camera and then only as a folder – so the images are not available when the camera is disconnected.. ALL of the other raw processors, plus other key apps. like FastStone Image Viewer, Xnview, 

Re: [darktable-user] Importing, How do you do it?

[Simon Wren]

 
 
  
   Newbie too, but I've always used Rapid Photo Downloader (for photo and video), as referenced earlier by Bruce. 
   https://www.damonlynch.net/rapid/. I rename the images (and videos) based on exif date/time (including subseconds if need be). This provides a unique file name, that can be regenerated if the file is ever inadvertently renamed, which is in turn stored in directories named by date. So: 2019 -> 10-Oct -> 2019-10-02 -> 191002-181033.NEF, 191002-181207.NEF etc. Rapid Photo Downloader will create all of this structure and place the files in the right directories, once you set the templates up correctly. 
   
  
  
   On 12 March 2020 at 00:31 Rod Cerkoney  wrote: 
   
   
   
Newbie alert, just started using this program. 

   
   

   
   
So I finally figured out that dt does not copy files from an  SD Card (or camera) into a disk location. (I find this odd coming from a Lightroom environment). I must use a file manager to copy files to a permanent disk location, then "import" into dt. I find that awkward and I'm looking for a better solution, one that is more elegant. 

   
   

   
   

 
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Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be

[Simon Wren]

 
 
  
   Here's a more helpful response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UWKyNX5rgg
   
  
  
   
On 31 January 2020 at 23:16 Patrick Shanahan <
p...@opensuse.org> wrote:
   
   

   
   

   
   
* Аl Воgnеr <
darktable...@corr.eu.org> [01-31-20 17:46]:
   
   

 Ubuntu 19.10


 darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be


 


 I updated with this repo from 2.6 to 3.0:


 


 deb


 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics:/darktable:/stable/xUbuntu_19.10/
 


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 Bevor I had settings which worked with my UHD-monitor. Now everything


 is too big. What do I have to change to get smaller fonts?

   
   
google provides *many* answers.
   
   

   
   
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Re: [darktable-user] A Slideshow maker

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I haven't tried, but I would guess Kdenlive (or similar) could do it. It might be a sledgehammer to crack a nut though!On 17 September 2019 at 21:46 David Vincent-Jones  wrote:  dt's slideshow works well and is most useful but it does not allow for voice or music to be integrated. There are any number of slideshow-to-video programs out there with fancy transitions but they create massive mp4 files and degrade the images in the process.Does anybody know of a simple slideshow program with a sound-over option that does not need to go through a video conversion process?David  darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org  

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