Holmes (was Re: Dashboard)

2005-11-23 Thread Jon Trowbridge
On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 23:10 +0100, Joel M wrote:
> I whould be interested in hacking some on holmes
> I just did this crappy Tomboy action, and I feel that I can do more.
> 
> It looked like it was just a hack fest nothing more :)

Good news: Holmes is being actively worked on inside of Novell.  We were
initially not able to make the work public for complicated (and boring)
reasons that aren't worth explaining.  The issues have have mostly been
sorted out, and I don't think it will be too much longer before the code
ends up in GNOME CVS along with the rest of Beagle.

-J




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Re: Dashboard

2005-11-23 Thread Joel M

Thats good toughts..
I whould be interested in hacking some on holmes
I just did this crappy Tomboy action, and I feel that I can do more.

It looked like it was just a hack fest nothing more :)


Meulemeester Jan Dante wrote:


well to quote someone before me on this list: "hopefully it won't die in
CVS" maybe there's need for a team that works on use cases,
usability, .. for dashboard, no coding yet. So Beagle can focus partly
on the advice of that team. Having those would be easyer for future
developpers of dashboard for coding.

greetings

Op wo, 23-11-2005 te 22:49 +0100, schreef giskard:
 


Il giorno mer, 23/11/2005 alle 21.56 +0100, Meulemeester Jan Dante ha
scritto:
   


so if beagle is the file backend for dashboard then you can compare best
to dashboard only in a minor form or what?
 


Best will be part of dashboard..at the moment, imho, is only a useful
tool to use beagle instead of waiting someone that will fix dashboard

   


greetings
 



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Re: Re:Dashboard

2005-11-23 Thread Meulemeester Jan Dante
well to quote someone before me on this list: "hopefully it won't die in
CVS" maybe there's need for a team that works on use cases,
usability, .. for dashboard, no coding yet. So Beagle can focus partly
on the advice of that team. Having those would be easyer for future
developpers of dashboard for coding.

greetings

Op wo, 23-11-2005 te 22:49 +0100, schreef giskard:
> Il giorno mer, 23/11/2005 alle 21.56 +0100, Meulemeester Jan Dante ha
> scritto:
> > so if beagle is the file backend for dashboard then you can compare best
> > to dashboard only in a minor form or what?
> 
> Best will be part of dashboard..at the moment, imho, is only a useful
> tool to use beagle instead of waiting someone that will fix dashboard
> 
> > greetings
> 

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Re: Re:Dashboard

2005-11-23 Thread giskard
Il giorno mer, 23/11/2005 alle 21.56 +0100, Meulemeester Jan Dante ha
scritto:
> so if beagle is the file backend for dashboard then you can compare best
> to dashboard only in a minor form or what?

Best will be part of dashboard..at the moment, imho, is only a useful
tool to use beagle instead of waiting someone that will fix dashboard

> greetings

-- 
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Re: Dashboard

2005-11-23 Thread Joel M
Can't you say it is a monitoring matching system against beagle for 
things you are doing currently.

Indexed data related to data you are using NOW?!

//Joel

Meulemeester Jan Dante wrote:


so if beagle is the file backend for dashboard then you can compare best
to dashboard only in a minor form or what?

greetings

Op wo, 23-11-2005 te 20:27 +0100, schreef giskard:
 


Il giorno mer, 23/11/2005 alle 20.09 +0100, Meulemeester Jan Dante ha
scritto:
  


What is the value that dashboard can give gnome users more than what
beagle can give them?



beagle support : BugzillaBackend.cs  GaleonBookmarksBackend.cs 
GoogleBackend.cs

ManPagesBackend.cs RhythmboxLibraryBackend.cs RSSBackend.cs
?

afaik beagle is the FILE backend of dashboard, i'm wrong?

  

Little information for users on the net about Dashboard although I 
heard

of it for more then a year now. For what there is to read
(http://www.nat.org/dashboard/) i think it would be great to have a
always on side-bar. But aren't these things explained on the slides and
the site possible with beagle if it uses better ui, sorting (project
holmes)



at the moment (imo) also holmes is not actively developed.
  


I can't really see the difference.



i see the difference :)
  



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Re: Re:Dashboard

2005-11-23 Thread Meulemeester Jan Dante
so if beagle is the file backend for dashboard then you can compare best
to dashboard only in a minor form or what?

greetings

Op wo, 23-11-2005 te 20:27 +0100, schreef giskard:
> Il giorno mer, 23/11/2005 alle 20.09 +0100, Meulemeester Jan Dante ha
> scritto:
> > What is the value that dashboard can give gnome users more than what
> > beagle can give them?
> 
> beagle support : 
> BugzillaBackend.cs  GaleonBookmarksBackend.cs GoogleBackend.cs
> ManPagesBackend.cs RhythmboxLibraryBackend.cs RSSBackend.cs
> ?
> 
> afaik beagle is the FILE backend of dashboard, i'm wrong?
> 
> > Little information for users on the net about Dashboard although I heard
> > of it for more then a year now. For what there is to read
> > (http://www.nat.org/dashboard/) i think it would be great to have a
> > always on side-bar. But aren't these things explained on the slides and
> > the site possible with beagle if it uses better ui, sorting (project
> > holmes)
> 
> at the moment (imo) also holmes is not actively developed. 
> 
> > I can't really see the difference.
> 
> i see the difference :)

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Re: Re:Dashboard

2005-11-23 Thread giskard
Il giorno mer, 23/11/2005 alle 20.09 +0100, Meulemeester Jan Dante ha
scritto:
> What is the value that dashboard can give gnome users more than what
> beagle can give them?

beagle support : 
BugzillaBackend.cs  GaleonBookmarksBackend.cs GoogleBackend.cs
ManPagesBackend.cs RhythmboxLibraryBackend.cs RSSBackend.cs
?

afaik beagle is the FILE backend of dashboard, i'm wrong?

> Little information for users on the net about Dashboard although I heard
> of it for more then a year now. For what there is to read
> (http://www.nat.org/dashboard/) i think it would be great to have a
> always on side-bar. But aren't these things explained on the slides and
> the site possible with beagle if it uses better ui, sorting (project
> holmes)

at the moment (imo) also holmes is not actively developed. 

> I can't really see the difference.

i see the difference :)
-- 
ciao giskard

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Re:Dashboard

2005-11-23 Thread Meulemeester Jan Dante
What is the value that dashboard can give gnome users more than what
beagle can give them?

Little information for users on the net about Dashboard although I heard
of it for more then a year now. For what there is to read
(http://www.nat.org/dashboard/) i think it would be great to have a
always on side-bar. But aren't these things explained on the slides and
the site possible with beagle if it uses better ui, sorting (project
holmes)

I can't really see the difference.

Greetings
> The way I see it, beagle is just another search engine.  A very good
> one but still.  Dashboard is the killer app.
> 
> Regards,
> Erik
> 
> 2005/11/23, Kevin Kubasik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Ok, I've done some preliminary rooting around and fiddled with
getting
> > dashboard to compile again. Good news is, I was able to make it
> > happen.
> >
> > Bad news, I managed to kill almost all functionality in the process.
> >
> > The real killer seems to be the engine/gnome.cs wrappers, while I
was
> > able to get dashboard compiling (by basically commenting 2/3rds of
the
> > file, and creating some shell methods) I haven't kept up on the
latest
> > changes to the gnome-sharp and gtk-sharp assemblies, but it seems
like
> > something relatively simple to fix, after that, I can't say much, at
> > the moment, dashboard appears to be a little helter-skelter but
> > its a... for lack of a better word just plain cool app, and it
> > would be depressing to watch it die in the CVS
> >
> > --
> > Kevin Kubasik
> > 240-838-6616
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Re: Dashboard

2005-11-23 Thread Erik Bågfors
The way I see it, beagle is just another search engine.  A very good
one but still.  Dashboard is the killer app.

Regards,
Erik

2005/11/23, Kevin Kubasik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Ok, I've done some preliminary rooting around and fiddled with getting
> dashboard to compile again. Good news is, I was able to make it
> happen.
>
> Bad news, I managed to kill almost all functionality in the process.
>
> The real killer seems to be the engine/gnome.cs wrappers, while I was
> able to get dashboard compiling (by basically commenting 2/3rds of the
> file, and creating some shell methods) I haven't kept up on the latest
> changes to the gnome-sharp and gtk-sharp assemblies, but it seems like
> something relatively simple to fix, after that, I can't say much, at
> the moment, dashboard appears to be a little helter-skelter but
> its a... for lack of a better word just plain cool app, and it
> would be depressing to watch it die in the CVS
>
> --
> Kevin Kubasik
> 240-838-6616
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