Re: beagle r4019 - in trunk/beagle: Util beagled beagled/DownloadsMetadataQueryable

2007-10-03 Thread Lukas Lipka
Hi Kevin,

after this commit I've noticed some strange behavior from the daemon.
This is directly related to the new DownloadsMetadataQueryable you
checked in. Here is a *short* output from the logs.

snip
Debug: Asking whether it's ok to index file:///tmp/Kurz_SCR_2007.doc
[file:///tmp/Kurz_SCR_2007.doc]
Debug: Delaying add of file:///tmp/Kurz_SCR_2007.doc until FSQ comes
across it
4
4
4
Debug: Asking whether it's ok to index file:///tmp/Kurz_SCR_2007.doc
[file:///tmp/Kurz_SCR_2007.doc]
Debug: Delaying add of file:///tmp/Kurz_SCR_2007.doc until FSQ comes
across it
Killed
/snip

This goes on forever, blocking the daemon and the only way to shut the
daemon down is to send A SIGKILL signal. Please do fix it as soon as
possible!

Thanks,
Lukas

On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 21:55 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Author: kkubasik
 Date: 2007-10-02 21:55:29 +0100 (Tue, 02 Oct 2007)
 New Revision: 4019
 ViewCVS link: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/beagle?rev=4019view=rev
 
 Added:
trunk/beagle/Util/Firefox.cs
trunk/beagle/beagled/DownloadsMetadataQueryable/

 trunk/beagle/beagled/DownloadsMetadataQueryable/DownloadsMetadataQueryable.cs
 Log:
 I suck ad adding new files
 
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Re: beagle r4019 - in trunk/beagle: Util beagled beagled/DownloadsMetadataQueryable

2007-10-03 Thread Kevin Kubasik
On 10/3/07, Debajyoti Bera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Author: kkubasik
Date: 2007-10-02 21:55:29 +0100 (Tue, 02 Oct 2007)
New Revision: 4019
ViewCVS link: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/beagle?rev=4019view=rev
   
Added:
   trunk/beagle/Util/Firefox.cs
   trunk/beagle/beagled/DownloadsMetadataQueryable/

 Just a passing comment, I for some reason dont feel very comfortable with this
 backend. Its an uneasy feeling, probably because of the fact that
 the metadata (i.e. the origin of a file) information is not available in
 the file itself nor there is a guarantee that the metadata is always correct.
 It is guaranteed that the metadata is correct when the file is downloading or
 when the download finishes. But after its done downloading, the information
 in firefox's downloads.rdf is not guaranteed to be accurate anymore. For
 instance, if I overwrite the downloaded copy with a file from somewhere else,
 the metadata would apply to the new file but would be wrong!
Yeah, thats the pickle, In a perfect world we could conceive of some
master plan which binds properties across movement for the metadata,
we already track the event, so I wouldn't think that it would be
impossible.

 It probably wont do a lot of practical damage if some files contain
 incorrect origin information but if this trend continues, I am afraid soon
 there will be inconsistencies difficult to resolve. ExternalMetadata is a
 tricky area.
No doubt, and its fine if we disable this backend for now (read, the
0.3 release) and hold off on it until we have a more solid plan for
relational data, thats cool.

 Whats the correct approach ? Not sure. Definitely something which can
 guarantee that the metadata is always correct. Which brings me to only one
 conclusion: attach the metadata to the file directly e.g. by storing it in an
 xattr (or some secret sqlite file) during downloading. I am not sure if this
 is implementable.
I would think the xattr wouldn't be impossible.. not fo querying, but
if at download we attach the xattr, and just index it every time we
hit the file, that would work.

 - dBera

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Re: Webinterface for beagle search (and more...)

2007-10-03 Thread D Bera
 Some of you are aware that a web interface for beagle is being worked 
 on. I
 blogged about it in planetbeagle sometime back. After that, a fearless

 I believe its now at a stage that some feedback would be good. 99.9% of it is
 javascript+xslt, so I(we) am mostly looking forward to UI issues. Its getting

There is now a wiki page showing pretty pictures (and some more
general information):
http://beagle-project.org/Beagle_Webinterface

One more thing, the web-interface is more concerned about displaying
the results, displaying snippets, displaying emails inside the browser
itself and displaying cached text for the results. There is no logic
for opening the files. Which means, if you click on the file links,
you get the same behaviour as if you are opening a local file using
the browser. For the blog/webhistory/bookmark links, they open the
webpage. For emails and chats ... dont do that for now. You have been
warned :)

- dBera

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I'll be moving

2007-10-03 Thread Kevin Kubasik
Hey, I know I've mentioned this in passing a few times, but I just
wanted to let everyone know that I'm moving (not hardcore, just for
school ;) ) today/tomorrow (depending on when you read this and how
quick I am ) and I won't have internet in my apartment for a little
while. I'll still have more wifi then I know what to do with at
school, so I shouldn't be impossible to get in touch with, but if I'm
slower to respond, thats probably why. Anyways, if ISP's are awesome
and actually want to take my money, the outage will be extremely short
lived, but this is America, home of Comcast.. so we'll see. ;)


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