Re: anybody working/supporting beagle?
On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 16:13 -0800, Amish Shah wrote: If I have questions about how to do things, above and beyond the pretty good documentation, am I likely to get answers on this forum? How responsive has Novell been about bug fixes? Or am I better of with tracker which seems like its actively supported, even though probably a bit less mature than beagle? It seems to me that the future is Tracker [which is sad, the world doesn't need any more unmanaged code. Ick!] Most significantly Tracker will almost certainly be integrated with the GNOME Activity Journal http://live.gnome.org/action/show/GnomeActivityJournal which means, at some point, it will be included in GNOME [displacing Beagle?] BTW, I love Beagle - it is a massive improvement over 'managing files'. But, at least for me, it has stopped working. Since I last updated Mono it just churns out a lot of - --- 20100122 06:15:13.6246 10662 Beagle ERROR EX: at System.Reflection.MonoCMethod.Invoke (System.Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object[] parameters, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture) [0x0] in filename unknown:0 20100122 06:15:13.6246 10662 Beagle ERROR EX: at System.Reflection.MonoCMethod.Invoke (BindingFlags invokeAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object[] parameters, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture) [0x0] in filename unknown:0 20100122 06:15:13.6246 10662 Beagle ERROR EX: at System.Reflection.ConstructorInfo.Invoke (System.Object[] parameters) [0x0] in filename unknown:0 20100122 06:15:13.6246 10662 Beagle ERROR EX: at System.Activator.CreateInstance (System.Type type, Boolean nonPublic) [0x0] in filename unknown:0 20100122 06:15:13.6246 10662 Beagle ERROR EX: at System.Activator.CreateInstance (System.Type type) [0x0] in filename unknown:0 20100122 06:15:13.6246 10662 Beagle ERROR EX: at Beagle.Daemon.QueryDriver.ScanAssemblyForQueryables (System.Reflection.Assembly assembly) [0x0] in filename unknown:0 ___ Dashboard-hackers mailing list Dashboard-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers
Re: anybody working/supporting beagle?
Hi, On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Amish Shah am...@kakai.com wrote: If I have questions about how to do things, above and beyond the pretty good documentation, am I likely to get answers on this forum? How responsive has Novell been about bug fixes? I will certainly try to answer any questions you have, but if things require development, you're on your own for that. (Although, again, I can provide some guidance.) Novell has not been very responsive to bug fixes, although I am sure that is different if you are a customer of theirs. :) Or am I better of with tracker which seems like its actively supported, even though probably a bit less mature than beagle? I would say it depends on what you want to do, and how much time and effort you are willing to invest in development, if any. At this point, Tracker has a lot more development going on it. Joe ___ Dashboard-hackers mailing list Dashboard-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers
Re: anybody working/supporting beagle?
Hi, On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 6:19 AM, Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org wrote: BTW, I love Beagle - it is a massive improvement over 'managing files'. But, at least for me, it has stopped working. Since I last updated Mono it just churns out a lot of - --- 20100122 06:15:13.6246 10662 Beagle ERROR EX: at System.Reflection.MonoCMethod.Invoke (System.Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object[] parameters, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture) [0x0] in filename unknown:0 This doesn't look like the complete stack trace. Or, at least, there isn't the exception message included. Can you provide that? Hopefully it's something simple. Joe ___ Dashboard-hackers mailing list Dashboard-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers
Re: anybody working/supporting beagle?
To start with: We will probably be writing a back-end to talk to postgres. Seems like the current backend for html files doesn't analysis all the content of the html files. Also, we want to add some more file attributes to the index repository during indexing. Eventually, we'd like to implement autosuggest. I took a look a the code, and it seems very readable, so I'm a bit more comfortable with beagle. Regarding Novell, is there a commercial license for Beagle present? Is it required or it something one can buy for support :) thanks Amish On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Joe Shaw j...@joeshaw.org wrote: Hi, On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 6:19 AM, Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org wrote: BTW, I love Beagle - it is a massive improvement over 'managing files'. But, at least for me, it has stopped working. Since I last updated Mono it just churns out a lot of - --- 20100122 06:15:13.6246 10662 Beagle ERROR EX: at System.Reflection.MonoCMethod.Invoke (System.Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object[] parameters, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture) [0x0] in filename unknown:0 This doesn't look like the complete stack trace. Or, at least, there isn't the exception message included. Can you provide that? Hopefully it's something simple. Joe ___ Dashboard-hackers mailing list Dashboard-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers ___ Dashboard-hackers mailing list Dashboard-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers
Re: anybody working/supporting beagle?
Hi, On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Amish Shah am...@kakai.com wrote: We will probably be writing a back-end to talk to postgres. Seems like the current backend for html files doesn't analysis all the content of the html files. Also, we want to add some more file attributes to the index repository during indexing. Ok. There are two concepts at play here: a backend, which is basically a data source. The file system is an example of a backend, and it seems like postgres would also be a backend. There is also a filter, which is code that extracts data and metadata from an item from a backend. So there is an HTML filter which pulls the data out of it. Both backends and filters can add attributes to the document that is written to the index. I'm not sure what you mean when you say that HTML files don't analyze all the content. There is a limit of the number of tokens indexed. I forget what the number is, but it's something like 2,000 or 10,000 or 50,000. Something like that. If you think you're going to need more indexed than that, you'll want to bump that limit. Eventually, we'd like to implement autosuggest. That'd be great! Regarding Novell, is there a commercial license for Beagle present? Is it required or it something one can buy for support :) Hopefully someone from Novell on the list can chime in on this. :) Joe ___ Dashboard-hackers mailing list Dashboard-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers
Re: anybody working/supporting beagle?
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Joe Shaw j...@joeshaw.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Amish Shah am...@kakai.com wrote: Regarding Novell, is there a commercial license for Beagle present? Is it required or it something one can buy for support :) Hopefully someone from Novell on the list can chime in on this. :) There is no license or support contract for Beagle directly; I believe the way to get Novell to support Beagle for you is by being a customer of SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop (http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/) and filing a Service Request, or by filing a bug on bugzilla.novell.com. Gabriel ___ Dashboard-hackers mailing list Dashboard-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers
Re: anybody working/supporting beagle?
Hi, Beagle isn't in active development. It is getting some occasional maintenance done by Novell. Joe On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Amish Shah am...@kakai.com wrote: Hi, How active is this project? I'm doing a comparison between beagle and tracker trying to decide which meta search engine to use. Beagle seems great, but kind of inactive especially lately. thanks Amish ___ Dashboard-hackers mailing list Dashboard-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers ___ Dashboard-hackers mailing list Dashboard-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers
Re: anybody working/supporting beagle?
If I have questions about how to do things, above and beyond the pretty good documentation, am I likely to get answers on this forum? How responsive has Novell been about bug fixes? Or am I better of with tracker which seems like its actively supported, even though probably a bit less mature than beagle? thanks Amish On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Joe Shaw j...@joeshaw.org wrote: Hi, Beagle isn't in active development. It is getting some occasional maintenance done by Novell. Joe On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Amish Shah am...@kakai.com wrote: Hi, How active is this project? I'm doing a comparison between beagle and tracker trying to decide which meta search engine to use. Beagle seems great, but kind of inactive especially lately. thanks Amish ___ Dashboard-hackers mailing list Dashboard-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers ___ Dashboard-hackers mailing list Dashboard-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers