[datameet] Gujarat Assembly Constituency Shapefiles
Hi all, does anyone have shapefiles for gujarat Assembly constituencies or can point to a source. my usual source - from the datameet website seems to be incomplete. regards Chandrashekhar -- Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more about us by visiting http://datameet.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "datameet" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/datameet/CACSGm8eZ1_FSd-awz%3DA466b55%3D9BBKYtzJh75P2SjGzRXZQrTQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [datameet] pre-delimitation (<2008) assembly constituency shapefiles for UP
thanks Devdatta, i am using the one shared by Dileep last time around, the shape is perfect just that the latitude and longitude seems to be scaled down , so in my case UP shows up small and almost next to the equator. i was told this is something to do with choosing the right projection and can be done with QGIS, but i do not know how. much appreciate any ideas or links chandrashekhar On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 9:27 AM Devdatta Tengshe wrote: > It is available in this thread: > https://groups.google.com/g/datameet/c/tYMSW1sbjwg/m/alfUTFpSDwAJ > > > Regards, > Devdatta > > > On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 at 19:28, Chandrashekhar Raman < > chandrashekhar.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello All, can anyone point to pre-delimitation AC shapefiles for Uttar >> Pradesh. >> >> thanks >> Chandrashekhar >> >> -- >> Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more >> about us by visiting http://datameet.org >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "datameet" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/datameet/CACSGm8ez0JwwM%3DxXxSLmyjoSpLux5y6J1_m3qYirNc3EZY5X5A%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/datameet/CACSGm8ez0JwwM%3DxXxSLmyjoSpLux5y6J1_m3qYirNc3EZY5X5A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more > about us by visiting http://datameet.org > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "datameet" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/datameet/CAOQOUMuEbXcGRRjpR6dtEA_j%3DE9kw6M%2ByFTd%3DWTvd4rpeUBbVw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/datameet/CAOQOUMuEbXcGRRjpR6dtEA_j%3DE9kw6M%2ByFTd%3DWTvd4rpeUBbVw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more about us by visiting http://datameet.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "datameet" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/datameet/CACSGm8fDjSSSwruChTchPBYbM0NhgCy%2BDayHvUJ-M4ArMd9YxA%40mail.gmail.com.
[datameet] pre-delimitation (<2008) assembly constituency shapefiles for UP
Hello All, can anyone point to pre-delimitation AC shapefiles for Uttar Pradesh. thanks Chandrashekhar -- Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more about us by visiting http://datameet.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "datameet" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/datameet/CACSGm8ez0JwwM%3DxXxSLmyjoSpLux5y6J1_m3qYirNc3EZY5X5A%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [datameet] Re: bihar pre delimitation AC shapefiles
Thank you dileep.. Will check this out as well. Btw tried the one that Dev shared and that seems to be pretty good as well. Just one AC missing - i think govindpur Regards Cs Sent from my iPhone > On 30-Oct-2015, at 12:17 PM, Dilip Damle <cadvis...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The predetermination data was available fro download from the Election > commission website itself. > I had kept it safely. > > Here it is. There is a known problem about the placement of Uttarakhand in > one of the sets. > > >> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 11:43:58 AM UTC+5:30, Chandrashekhar Raman >> wrote: >> does anyone have access to pre-delimitation assembly constituency >> shapefiles of Bihar.. i.e 2005 backwards. much appreciate if can be shared. >> >> thanks >> cs > > -- > Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more about > us by visiting http://datameet.org > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "datameet" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more about us by visiting http://datameet.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "datameet" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [datameet] bihar pre delimitation AC shapefiles
thank you Dev, this is looking good!! regards cs On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Devdatta Tengshe <devda...@tengshe.in> wrote: > Hi Chandrashekar, > > There is some data available at: > http://www.dartmouth.edu/~sandip/data.html#maps. This link was shred > several years ago on this group. > > I've extracted the ACs belonging to Bihar, and am sharing them in > Shapefile format. > > Regards, > Dev > > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Chandrashekhar Raman < > chandrashekhar.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> does anyone have access to pre-delimitation assembly constituency >> shapefiles of Bihar.. i.e 2005 backwards. much appreciate if can be shared. >> >> thanks >> cs >> >> -- >> Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more >> about us by visiting http://datameet.org >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "datameet" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more > about us by visiting http://datameet.org > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "datameet" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more about us by visiting http://datameet.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "datameet" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [datameet] 3rd and final? draft to the ECI letter
Want to echo the points made by a few folks on the 'tyranny of pdfs' I have spent countless hours with free trial versions of pdf to excel conversion software to wrangle election data from pdfs available online into a usable excel format (or csv). and in the process infected my computer with countless malware.Extracting and cleaning data is a learning exercise in itself, but making it available in a machine readable format will take this to a whole new level. Tim Barnes Lees framework on the 'degree of open-ness' of open data is perhaps relevant to this discussion. 1 Star Data available on the Web, with an open license, but non machine readable - E.g. Zip files and PDFs 2 Star Data available in Machine-readable proprietary formats e.g. Excel 3 Star Data available in machine-readable, non-proprietary formats e.g. XML, RDF, JSON or even CSV 4 Star Data Available using an open linked data format (URI so people can point to your data) 5 Star Data available and linked to other data ( to provide context and relationships) I am not a tech expert - but seems that there is a lot of activity around moving much of data from '1star' to the '5star' level - and that could be one guiding thought for us as a group. cs On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Ma-roof M mahroo...@gmail.com wrote: I agree fully. I am as enraged by the pdfs as many others are :-) What can be more enraging than staring at a scanned pdf, with tables of numbers, which one is absolutely sure came out of a spreadsheet..?? I was hinting that if we say open standards, they could take recourse to the fact that pdf is an open standard. And at the least, ensure that whatever pdfs get shared are not image-pdfs. Kind Regards Mahroof Knowledge, that is *discovered*, lasts a lifetime.. On 12 August 2014 12:40, Vaishnavi Jayakumar (Inclusive India) vaishnavi.jayaku...@inclusiveindia.info wrote: Pdf became an open standard, yes. But the software required to ensure easy PDF/UA http://www.pdfa.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/PDFUA-in-a-Nutshell-PDFUA.pdfcreation (PDF accessibility for screen readers) is invariably paid i.e. Adobe Acrobat Pro. Else, training on the following will have to take place http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/pdf.html which will be a mammoth exercise. The spectrum of PDF types (hybrid, /A, /UA etc) is also prone to lead to confusion. The following article on document accessibility is a good place to start thinking on Universal Design principles. http://www.accessiq.org/news/news/2014/03/why-document-accessibility-and-pdfua-matters *(Accessibility btw is used in disability lingo to refer to stuff accessible to disabled people as well as non-disabled on an equal basis - not just run of the mill accessibility) * Ethically I am against government using paid proprietary software where FOSS alternatives exist. Which is why I was pleased to see UK's official adoption of the open document format recently. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/23/uk_government_officially_adopts_open_document_format/ Can PDFs be made accessible? Yes. But I'd go with the sentiment expressed below via http://datadenkers.wordpress.com/2014/06/06/the-united-nations-and-its-pdf-ghettos-supposedly-open-data-and-the-lack-of-transparency/ : What is clear though is that frankly, there is no reason whatsoever, why ‘open data’ would ever be ‘released’ in PDF format, instead of .csv or .xcl. As Nathanial Manning http://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2013/oct/21/development-open-data-action puts it: “This is like funding James Cameron to make Avatar, and then releasing it in a black and white flipbook. We are missing all the good stuff.” --- *VAISHNAVI JAYAKUMAR* http://about.me/vjayakumar On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Ma-roof M mahroo...@gmail.com wrote: for that matter, pdf is an open standard. So are office formats since v2007 (office open xml). We might want to specifically address the issue of the image-pdf menace. Kind Regards Mahroof Knowledge, that is *discovered*, lasts a lifetime.. On 12 August 2014 10:18, Vaishnavi Jayakumar (Inclusive India) vaishnavi.jayaku...@inclusiveindia.info wrote: Are there no guidelines in existence for what formats need to be used for data / information sharing? If data is open, isn't it necessarily in open formats? Echo that the letter needs to be sent. But Datameet should next prioritise advocating for standard open formats for information sharing at the policy level. In my work on disability advocacy, most of the time the bills put up asking for public comments are pdfs created by crooked scans of printouts. It needs to be transcribed before people with near vision / blindness can read it. Such a waste. Nirmita at CIS should be able to advise on
Re: [datameet] Data portals for cities through data.gov.in?
Nisha, Srini, Open Data for Cities is a topic that I happen to have invested some time on as part of my day job. I should have a bunch of presentations PDF on the benefits of the same from my old days which i would be happy to share. If you want to do this in India, I suspect this is something a few corporates would also be interested in. Also there are a couple of companies which are very good at doing this for cities - Socrata comes to mind immediately - I have talked to these folks a couple of times - they have a good hosted solution and a very impressive list of references (almost all major US cities in that list). net net.. If there is a team that is getting organically formed to look deeper into it, i would love to be a part of it regards cs On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Nisha Thompson nisha.thomp...@gmail.com wrote: Data.gov.in mentioned a meeting with Tamil Nadu a while ago. I will try to follow up with them and see if there is a follow meeting, maybe DataMeeters in Chennai can attend. Nisha On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:39 PM, srinivas kodali iota.kod...@gmail.com wrote: Nisha, You mentioned something about chennai is moving towards a portal, can u elaborate on that? Srinivas On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Nisha Thompson ni...@datameet.org wrote: Srinivas, I agree we should have one! Can we get a few other people in teh Bangalore group together and start lobbying the NIC and bangalore to create one? STarting with meetings and letters with Bangalore stakeholders? THen see about who is interested in starting the conversation in other cities. Chennai might be movign toward a portal but I'm nto sure, I don't see why Bangalore can't have one or Delhi or Mumbai or PUne. Nisha On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 8:52 AM, srinivas kodali iota.kod...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Our Open data policy makes it mandatory for ministries to categorize their department datasets into open-data or restricted and release them publicly. But the same is not true with city/municipal agencies. Most important datasets like public transport, financial spendings, pollution levels, water usage fall under state/municipal agencies. These are important datasets which need to be made public. Making local agencies release datasets through data.gov.in would bring data standards locally and also improve community participation. Think of it, bangalore.data.gov.in would be an interesting page to have. Pointing out the equivalent open-access pages across the world. Beijing - http://www.bjdata.gov.cn/ Seattle - https://data.seattle.gov/browse Chicago - https://data.cityofchicago.org/ Baltimore - data.baltimorecity.gov Honolulu - data.honolulu.gov Colorado - data.opencolorado.org Lexington - data.lexingtonky.gov Somerville - data.somervillema.gov Palo Alto - paloalto.opendata.junar.com Louisville - portal.louisvilleky.gov why not have similar ones for india, there is enough data around. Delhi has real-time pollution level monitored, real-time locations of buses, water usage data is available from water boards. What do we need for this to happen? Regards, Srinivas Kodali -- Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more about us by visiting http://datameet.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Nisha Thompson DataMeet.org ni...@datameet.org skype: nishaqt mobile: 962-061-2245 -- Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more about us by visiting http://datameet.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more about us by visiting http://datameet.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Nisha Thompson Mobile: 962-061-2245 -- Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more about us by visiting http://datameet.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more about
[datameet] Take on Elections 2014
Finally got around to taking a crack at the results of Elections 2014. Old news now.. but still wanted to share with the group. If someone is interested the data is downloadable right there. democracydatablog.blogspot.in Also attaching a quick and dirty shell script i wrote to scrape the data from ECI as well. unfortunately will work on a mac (or linux box, maybe). it generates a file called consolidated.htm - and you can copy paste all to excel. probably too late this time but maybe useful next time.. cheers, Cs -- Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more about us by visiting http://datameet.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. script2.sh Description: Bourne shell script
Re: [datameet] Re: Indian Elections 2014 - ECI Datasets
This will be a tough nut to crack with just the name.. especially because fielding 'dummy candidates' with same or very similar names is a fairly common practice.. Used to split votes.. As employed by the veteran ajit jogi in mahasamund.. Maybe eci will make some kind of identification number mandatory in future, or they have already. On May 19, 2014 9:32 AM, Dilip Damle cadvis...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to all, Thanks for this data. I was wondering if there is a way to Uniquely identify the Contestant If someone wants to create a track record of the contestants over period then this is important Just name is not sufficient. I tried to look for Duplicate NameParty combinations Including independents there are 97 duplicate combinations Excluding independents there are 16 7 candidates named as Chandu Lal Sahu contested from Chhattisgarh, Mahasamund Since they are from same constituency there are obviously different individuals. However there is no way to differentiate multiple persons with same name and Same person contesting in two constituencies. Any way out? Rgds Dilip Damle On Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:40:52 PM UTC+5:30, Pratap Vardhan wrote: Ravi, I did change the code a bit this afternoon. You would find the mentioned places in the repo files Regards, Pratap -- Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more about us by visiting http://datameet.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more about us by visiting http://datameet.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [datameet] List of LS-2014 Electoral Candidates
I think the nomination process is not complete yet for the last phases.. Once that is done the eci should have the full list Cs On Apr 17, 2014 4:07 PM, Ritvvij Parrikh ritvvij.parr...@pykih.com wrote: Hello, Has any one compiled a complete list? We checked myneta and the list is not complete. Plus called them and they said they do not provide the data in XLS and hence must be scrapped. Now we are checking each Chief Election Commissioner's site. Regards, Ritvvij -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List
Raphael, you raise very pertinent issues. We as a community love open data and in this country there is a lot that can be done to free all kinds of data so that it can be made use of in a good way (election data in an aggregated form is one example). But at the same time there are certain kinds of data which are not open ( i mean not open in a machine readable format) for a good reason. I believe voter rolls data is one such type. In the past voter lists have been used to pinpoint members of specific communities which were then targeted with gruesome effect. Shudder to think what happens if it is automated, a 'riot app'? As Raphael points out this is not just about privacy, but could be much worse. This group is a fantastic initiative and as it evolves, it would be great for us to involve more social scientists and policy experts - so as we advocate vociferously to free more data and make it open - we can also bring in the technical expertise here to recommend where data needs to be better protected and how. cs On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Raphael Susewind li...@raphael-susewind.de wrote: Hi Devdatta and Avinash, yes, I, too, am frankly surprised at the ease with which one can access sensitive data in bulk. Not only PDF rolls and voter details, but also things such as land records, BPL lists, and much more - I think we are in an exciting as well as dangerous phase of fairly uncontrolled, nascent e-Governance practices. But I think the ethical issues here are a little more complex than mere privacy concern. Upfront, I must admit that I use all the above sources for academic research (in UP and across India). What Avinash described in principle and at the example of Delhi can indeed be done on an all-India scale, and I am sure there are more people than just me who do it. But then the social sciences have long dealt with sensitive data and developed protocols to protect it. Even though the data is publicly available, I for instance have my own copy on a secure workstation with full disk encryption and two factor authentication. Whenever possible, I also work on anonymized subsets of data. Yet there are other potential uses - some of the more worrisome you pointed out - which are not bound by such data protection standards. To me, this once more highlights the nascent stage of ethical standards around Big Data and eGovernance. On the plus side, I am happy to have that kind of access to conduct research which will ultimately be ethically beneficial, leading to better understanding of social issues and potentially to better policy advice. Also, there is a point to be made that transparency is an important asset in elections in particular, not only in terms of individual electoral search functions, but also in terms of publicly accessible (and cross-checkable, publicly verifiable) PDF rolls. Finally, a lot of this data had been available in the past as well, only in distributed and/or commercial form, which means there had been a hierarchy of access: small-time crooks could not use it, but large-time crooks were always able to use it. Likewise, scholars at large (often foreign) universities were able to use it, but not smaller ones (this is still true for some data, geodata in particular, which I can only access because of Ivy-League contacts and only process because of an association with Oxford University). The ethical challenge as I see it thus comes not from data availability per se, but from the bulk accessibility and processability of data, as well as the potential to link otherwise disconnected datasets with each other (for instance a voter ID from the rolls to the online electoral search mechanism to that voter's polling booth locality to the ration card of a person with the same name registered at a ration shop in close spatial proximity to the amount of rice that person obtained last week, all coupled - in case of my own research - to that person's religious identity through a namematching algorithm). And this IS an ethical challenge indeed, particularly if one leaves the ivory tower of academia, where ethical standards for such data are more ingrained, and more adhered to. One need not go all the way to the various criminal uses of such data - are we all happy with commercial use, to start with? I have no easy answers here, because I think the ethical issue is fairly complex, balancing privacy and personal security against transparency in the political process and legitimate academic use of data (also because I think the answer must be found in India through political deliberation, and not in German academia). Still, in the end, I have to admit that I often leave my desk in the evening with quite some unease over the sheer wealth of private data that I work with... What do others think? Raphael On 11.04.2014 06:57, Avinash Celestine wrote: Hi Devdatta Yes, though (and in the current context, i suppose thats a good
Re: [datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List
Raphael, To clarify, i am not trying to make a case against availability of fine grained data, far from it i'm with you on this argument among others that are made spuriously to restrict access. I might have stretched the point but then again - killing is just one extreme form of discrimination - there are others that are less visible you summed it up very well, its good to have a healthy caution and unease when dealing with some of this data,there are probably no simple answers here. will read the paper at leisure. cs. On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Raphael Susewind li...@raphael-susewind.de wrote: Chandrashekhar, just on the specific issues of targeting communities, which I have thought about a great deal (my first book was on post-2002 Gujarat), my tentative conclusion is this: The fact that electoral rolls had been used in the past in riots before they were available online shows that rioters, if they want to, can access this data already. As Gautam pointed out, it IS public by law. What changes is merely the scale of data availability. Large-scale data would only be 'more useful' for large-scale targeting, however (small-scale targeting is possible already), which I don't see happening at this time (with the troublesome exception of Gujarat, particularly troublesome now that Mr Modi runs for PM - but here, too, the targeting happened in small units on the ground, even though coordination took place higher up). On the other hand, fine-grained large-scale data is absolutely necessary to understand a range of issues about (religious, caste) economic position. So that in this specific case, we have additional benefits but no additional risk (beyond the worrisome risk already out there)... More detailed arguments about this in a forthcoming paper of mine at http://pub.uni-bielefeld.de/publication/2631138 Best, Raphael On 11.04.2014 08:49, Chandrashekhar Raman wrote: Raphael, you raise very pertinent issues. We as a community love open data and in this country there is a lot that can be done to free all kinds of data so that it can be made use of in a good way (election data in an aggregated form is one example). But at the same time there are certain kinds of data which are not open ( i mean not open in a machine readable format) for a good reason. I believe voter rolls data is one such type. In the past voter lists have been used to pinpoint members of specific communities which were then targeted with gruesome effect. Shudder to think what happens if it is automated, a 'riot app'? As Raphael points out this is not just about privacy, but could be much worse. This group is a fantastic initiative and as it evolves, it would be great for us to involve more social scientists and policy experts - so as we advocate vociferously to free more data and make it open - we can also bring in the technical expertise here to recommend where data needs to be better protected and how. cs On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Raphael Susewind li...@raphael-susewind.de mailto:li...@raphael-susewind.de wrote: Hi Devdatta and Avinash, yes, I, too, am frankly surprised at the ease with which one can access sensitive data in bulk. Not only PDF rolls and voter details, but also things such as land records, BPL lists, and much more - I think we are in an exciting as well as dangerous phase of fairly uncontrolled, nascent e-Governance practices. But I think the ethical issues here are a little more complex than mere privacy concern. Upfront, I must admit that I use all the above sources for academic research (in UP and across India). What Avinash described in principle and at the example of Delhi can indeed be done on an all-India scale, and I am sure there are more people than just me who do it. But then the social sciences have long dealt with sensitive data and developed protocols to protect it. Even though the data is publicly available, I for instance have my own copy on a secure workstation with full disk encryption and two factor authentication. Whenever possible, I also work on anonymized subsets of data. Yet there are other potential uses - some of the more worrisome you pointed out - which are not bound by such data protection standards. To me, this once more highlights the nascent stage of ethical standards around Big Data and eGovernance. On the plus side, I am happy to have that kind of access to conduct research which will ultimately be ethically beneficial, leading to better understanding of social issues and potentially to better policy advice. Also, there is a point to be made that transparency is an important asset in elections in particular, not only in terms of individual electoral search functions, but also in terms of publicly accessible
[datameet] Open Data 'Platform' startups
Hi, is anyone here aware of any start-ups in India working in the open data platform space .. ideally someone who is trying to create something like a socrata/ junar/ datamarket (or even better!).. thanks cs -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
