Re: Here is a classic one for you
Depending upon a few factors- I'd also check the file owner and permissions. We have a nasty requirement that our root umask eliminates group and world access to files created by root. Wreaks havoc on Perl module installations. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 2, 2015, at 12:18 PM, The Doctor wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 02, 2015 at 10:22:01AM -0600, Matthew Musgrove wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 5:53 PM, The Doctor wrote: >>> >>> I start a programme with a DBI dependency and I get: >>> >>> Can't locate object method "bootstrap" via package "DBI" at >>> /usr/contrib/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18.2/i386-bsdos/DBI.pm line 277. >>> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at >>> /usr/contrib/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18.2/i386-bsdos/DBI.pm line 284. >>> >>> >>> All right the bs file exists. >>> >>> What else is not correct? >>> >>> How do I do a debug on this? >>> >>> -- >>> Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@ >>> nl2k.ab.ca >>> God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist >>> rising! >>> http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism >>> Merry Christmas 2014 and Happy New Year 2015 >> >> How did you install DBI? I've seen this problem before when someone copied >> all of the files for a module out of their perl directory and dropped them >> into place on a machine with a different architecture. >> >> Mr. Muskrat > > perl Makefile.PL > make > make test > make install > > -- > Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici > doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca > God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist > rising! > http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism > Birthday 29 Jan 1969, REdhill Surrey, England, UK
Re: Here is a classic one for you
On Fri, Jan 02, 2015 at 10:22:01AM -0600, Matthew Musgrove wrote: > On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 5:53 PM, The Doctor wrote: > > > I start a programme with a DBI dependency and I get: > > > > Can't locate object method "bootstrap" via package "DBI" at > > /usr/contrib/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18.2/i386-bsdos/DBI.pm line 277. > > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at > > /usr/contrib/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18.2/i386-bsdos/DBI.pm line 284. > > > > > > All right the bs file exists. > > > > What else is not correct? > > > > How do I do a debug on this? > > > > -- > > Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@ > > nl2k.ab.ca > > God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist > > rising! > > http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism > > Merry Christmas 2014 and Happy New Year 2015 > > > > How did you install DBI? I've seen this problem before when someone copied > all of the files for a module out of their perl directory and dropped them > into place on a machine with a different architecture. > > Mr. Muskrat perl Makefile.PL make make test make install -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism Birthday 29 Jan 1969, REdhill Surrey, England, UK
Re: Here is a classic one for you
On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 5:53 PM, The Doctor wrote: > I start a programme with a DBI dependency and I get: > > Can't locate object method "bootstrap" via package "DBI" at > /usr/contrib/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18.2/i386-bsdos/DBI.pm line 277. > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at > /usr/contrib/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18.2/i386-bsdos/DBI.pm line 284. > > > All right the bs file exists. > > What else is not correct? > > How do I do a debug on this? > > -- > Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@ > nl2k.ab.ca > God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist > rising! > http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism > Merry Christmas 2014 and Happy New Year 2015 > How did you install DBI? I've seen this problem before when someone copied all of the files for a module out of their perl directory and dropped them into place on a machine with a different architecture. Mr. Muskrat
Re: Here is a classic one for you
On Fri, Jan 02, 2015 at 07:21:44AM -0800, jerry wrote: > In general, if I see a "file not found" when a file exists, I've > learned > to quickly check that it has the right bitlength. e.g. a 32-bit > library > in a 64-bit world will give you that error. Drove me nuts the first > time > I encountered it. There was the file right in front of my nose, and > yet > "File not found". > > - Jerry Kaidor > Hmmm! This is a 32-bit BSD Unix system. > > On 01/02/2015 07:29, The Doctor wrote: > >On Fri, Jan 02, 2015 at 07:10:42PM +1100, Ivan Wills wrote: > >>My technique for that is to add the following lines in DBI (say > >>on line > >>283): > >>use Carp qw/cluck/; > >>cluck "Here"; > >> > >>And see what the stack suggests is going on. > >> > >>Ivan > >> > >>On 2 January 2015 at 10:53, The Doctor > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I start a programme with a DBI dependency and I get: > >>> > >>> Can't locate object method "bootstrap" via package "DBI" at > >>> /usr/contrib/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18.2/i386-bsdos/DBI.pm line > >>277. > >>> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at > >>> /usr/contrib/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18.2/i386-bsdos/DBI.pm line > >>284. > >>> > > > >No dice. All that happens is that 284 becomes 286. > > > >>> > >>> All right the bs file exists. > >>> > >>> What else is not correct? > >>> > >>> How do I do a debug on this? > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici > >>doctor@@ > >>> nl2k.ab.ca > >>> God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware > >>AntiChrist > >>> rising! > >>> http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 > >>on Atheism > >>> Merry Christmas 2014 and Happy New Year 2015 > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>email/jabber: ivan.wi...@gmail.com > >> / > >> / _ _ > >> / \ / | | | | > >>/\/ \_| | | -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism Merry Christmas 2014 and Happy New Year 2015
Re: Here is a classic one for you
In general, if I see a "file not found" when a file exists, I've learned to quickly check that it has the right bitlength. e.g. a 32-bit library in a 64-bit world will give you that error. Drove me nuts the first time I encountered it. There was the file right in front of my nose, and yet "File not found". - Jerry Kaidor On 01/02/2015 07:29, The Doctor wrote: On Fri, Jan 02, 2015 at 07:10:42PM +1100, Ivan Wills wrote: My technique for that is to add the following lines in DBI (say on line 283): use Carp qw/cluck/; cluck "Here"; And see what the stack suggests is going on. Ivan On 2 January 2015 at 10:53, The Doctor wrote: > I start a programme with a DBI dependency and I get: > > Can't locate object method "bootstrap" via package "DBI" at > /usr/contrib/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18.2/i386-bsdos/DBI.pm line 277. > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at > /usr/contrib/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18.2/i386-bsdos/DBI.pm line 284. > No dice. All that happens is that 284 becomes 286. > > All right the bs file exists. > > What else is not correct? > > How do I do a debug on this? > > -- > Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@ > nl2k.ab.ca > God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist > rising! > http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism > Merry Christmas 2014 and Happy New Year 2015 > -- email/jabber: ivan.wi...@gmail.com / / _ _ / \ / | | | | /\/ \_| | |
Re: Here is a classic one for you
On Fri, Jan 02, 2015 at 07:10:42PM +1100, Ivan Wills wrote: > My technique for that is to add the following lines in DBI (say on line > 283): > use Carp qw/cluck/; > cluck "Here"; > > And see what the stack suggests is going on. > > Ivan > > On 2 January 2015 at 10:53, The Doctor wrote: > > > I start a programme with a DBI dependency and I get: > > > > Can't locate object method "bootstrap" via package "DBI" at > > /usr/contrib/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18.2/i386-bsdos/DBI.pm line 277. > > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at > > /usr/contrib/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18.2/i386-bsdos/DBI.pm line 284. > > No dice. All that happens is that 284 becomes 286. > > > > All right the bs file exists. > > > > What else is not correct? > > > > How do I do a debug on this? > > > > -- > > Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@ > > nl2k.ab.ca > > God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist > > rising! > > http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism > > Merry Christmas 2014 and Happy New Year 2015 > > > > > > -- > email/jabber: ivan.wi...@gmail.com >/ > / _ _ > / \ / | | | | > /\/ \_| | | -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism Merry Christmas 2014 and Happy New Year 2015
Re: Escaping placeholders, take 2
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 03:55:42AM -, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > > Tim Bunce wrote: > > Wherein I attempt to summarize the requirements, the background, the > > options, > > the risks, and the counter-proposal ... > > Thanks for taking the time to write all this out in a coherent manner. You're welcome. I find the effort usually greatly clarifies my thinking. > I may once again assume the role of devil's advocate herein. Thanks. > > In modern application development, however, the DBI is just another > > foundation layer, low down in the stack. Above it are modules like > > SQL::Abstract, and ORMs like DBIx::Class. Companies have large and > > growing investments in these stacks, plus the modules they've built over > > them to provide abstraction and encapsulation of business logic. > > Agreed. > > > For these large applications the attribute workarounds are rarely helpful. > > Is that a true generalization? Or is it only because these large > applications have not bothered to support the attributes? Supporting attributes means supporting (non-standard) numbered placeholders. Supporting numbered placeholders is, as previously described, very far from trivial for SQL::Abstract and thus DBIx::Class. (I certainly wouldn't characterize this as "not bothered".) > > +Some drivers allow you to prevent the recognition of a placeholder by > > placing a > > +single backslash character (C<\>) immediately before it. The driver will > > remove > > +the backslash character and ignore the placeholder, passing it unchanged > > to the > > +backend. If the driver supports this then L(9000) will return > > true. > > Seems a good start. I don't like the phrase "prevent recognition of a > placeholder" > but it's too late at night to propose an alternate right now. s/prevent/disable/? > >> Which likely means that SQL::Abstract and/or DBIx::Class will need to > >> know as well. (Unless they expose the DBD directly to the user, which > >> ruins the point a bit). > > > > Not true. > > How will a user of SQL::Abstract know if escapes are supported or not? > Isn't the job of such frameworks to release the user from such worries, > or at least present some sort of attribute the user can rely on? SQL::Abstract isn't (just) about portability. It allows SQL conditions to be expressed and composed via Perl data structures. That's very powerful functionality. Users who want to use a postgres ? operator know they're using DBD::Pg and can simply require the appropriate version. > > Question marks are the international standard for placeholders. > > The DBI should have specified a way to escape them from the start. > > I'm attempting to fix that now. > > Taking off the devil's advocate hat now. I can agree with this > position and the backslash solution. Great. Thanks Greg. > > To demonstrate the relative complexity, here's a proof-of-concept patch > > for DBD::Pg to implement support for escaping question mark placeholders: > > > > https://github.com/timbunce/dbdpg/commit/54358c7a7efeeaf2666c5e28c301e47624fb9615 > > +1, thanks for that. I certainly cannot see any harm in adding escape support > to DBD::Pg, and then letting the upstream modules start adapting to it. Wonderful. I'll work on polishing up the patch. Tim.
Re: Here is a classic one for you
My technique for that is to add the following lines in DBI (say on line 283): use Carp qw/cluck/; cluck "Here"; And see what the stack suggests is going on. Ivan On 2 January 2015 at 10:53, The Doctor wrote: > I start a programme with a DBI dependency and I get: > > Can't locate object method "bootstrap" via package "DBI" at > /usr/contrib/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18.2/i386-bsdos/DBI.pm line 277. > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at > /usr/contrib/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18.2/i386-bsdos/DBI.pm line 284. > > > All right the bs file exists. > > What else is not correct? > > How do I do a debug on this? > > -- > Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@ > nl2k.ab.ca > God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist > rising! > http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism > Merry Christmas 2014 and Happy New Year 2015 > -- email/jabber: ivan.wi...@gmail.com / / _ _ / \ / | | | | /\/ \_| | |
