Re: New edition of the Cheetah?
[I wrote this last week but got forgotten in my Pending mail folder till now] I'd cancel the order. It shouldn't be available for pre-order. There is a new edition partly written (by Jeff Zucker and myself) but it's less than half done, not been touched for about a year, and I doubt it'll be touched anytime soon. We still plan to complete it, but first I want to have something concrete to put in it about DBI2 and Perl6. If only to give myself the inspiration I need to write prose. But at the moment I don't have anything concrete to say about DBI2 and Perl6. That needs to change. Tim. On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 07:47:15AM -0700, Brian H. Oak wrote: I pre-ordered an updated edition of the Cheetah book, _Programming the Perl DBI_, on July 24 of this year. I saw it announced and, having wished for an update for a very long time, bought it on the spot. Problem is, the release date keeps slipping. The original ship date was supposed to be September 24. But then I was told on September 25 that it would ship on November 28. A couple of days ago it slipped again, this time to January 30, 2008. I understand that writing and publishing a book is not a trivial undertaking, but I have to wonder if this particular book is ever going to materialize. I thought I would pose the question to this forum, since I have seen at least one of the authors here. It's not like this new edition is crucial to my ongoing use of the DBI, but the original was written so long ago that it is almost useless. I will admit to being a bibliophile, especially when it comes to Perl books. But it would be extremely nice to get an updated hardcopy of The State of the DBI. So does anyone know? Am I wishing in vain? Should I just cancel my order, which so far has only resulted in intermittent dismay? Are there others here who share in my disappointment? Thanks, -Brian
RE: New edition of the Cheetah?
Maybe you can time it to come out at the same time as Perl 6?? From: [EMAIL
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: dbi-users@perl.org Subject: RE: New
edition of the Cheetah? Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:03:49 -0700 Jeff,
Thank you for your reply. I have taken the liberty of fleshing out your code a
little further: use DBI; use DBI::Cheetah::Authors qw( write_book
book_written get_paid ); use DBD::Impatience qw( hold_breath
throw_temper_tantrum ); sub you_are_here { return !( write_book
book_written get_paid ); } $seconds = 300; $dbh = DBI-connect(
DBI:Impatience:host=localhost;database=DBIdocumentation, dbiuser,
short!temper20080131, { PrintError = 0, RaiseError = 1 } ); $cheetah =
$dbh-prepare(q{ SELECT chapters FROM book WHERE author = ? AND coauthor =
? }); while ( you_are_here() ) { # --- you are here # --- this interval
is unknown no matter what the website says hold_breath( $seconds ); if (
++$count = 18_144 ) { throw_temper_tantrum( ROYAL SNIT FIT ); $count = 0;
} } $cheetah-execute(Tim,Jeff); Actually, despite my allusions to
throwing a fit, I am only very mildly hopeful about getting the new book. Take
your time, write it right. One question: has the writing even begun yet? Why
was the book announced so early? One reason for my curiosity is the fact that
I've thought about trying to break into writing technical books, so I'm always
interested in what happens behind-the-scenes. Best regards, -Brian
-Original Message- From: Jeff Zucker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:10 To: Brian H. Oak Cc:
dbi-users@perl.org Subject: Re: New edition of the Cheetah?Hi
Brian,Here's where we stand:$cheetah = $dbh-prepare(q{
SELECT chapters FROM book WHERE author = ? AND coauthor = ? });
... # --- you are here ... # -- this interval is unknown no matter what
the website says ... # $cheetah-execute(Tim,Jeff);Sorry,
even the January 2008 date is at least as exaggerated as the reports of
Mark Twain's death. I know you'd like to fetch() the book, but sorry, the
wait will be a bit longer.-- Jeff
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RE: New edition of the Cheetah?
Jeff,
Thank you for your reply. I have taken the liberty of fleshing out
your code a little further:
use DBI;
use DBI::Cheetah::Authors qw( write_book book_written get_paid );
use DBD::Impatience qw( hold_breath throw_temper_tantrum );
sub you_are_here {
return !( write_book book_written get_paid );
}
$seconds = 300;
$dbh = DBI-connect(
DBI:Impatience:host=localhost;database=DBIdocumentation,
dbiuser,
short!temper20080131,
{ PrintError = 0, RaiseError = 1 }
);
$cheetah = $dbh-prepare(q{
SELECT chapters
FROM book
WHERE author = ?
AND coauthor = ?
});
while ( you_are_here() ) {
# --- you are here
# --- this interval is unknown no matter what the website
says
hold_breath( $seconds );
if ( ++$count = 18_144 ) {
throw_temper_tantrum( ROYAL SNIT FIT );
$count = 0;
}
}
$cheetah-execute(Tim,Jeff);
Actually, despite my allusions to throwing a fit, I am only very
mildly hopeful about getting the new book. Take your time, write it
right. One question: has the writing even begun yet? Why was the
book announced so early? One reason for my curiosity is the fact that
I've thought about trying to break into writing technical books, so
I'm always interested in what happens behind-the-scenes.
Best regards,
-Brian
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Zucker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:10
To: Brian H. Oak
Cc: dbi-users@perl.org
Subject: Re: New edition of the Cheetah?
Hi Brian,
Here's where we stand:
$cheetah = $dbh-prepare(q{
SELECT chapters
FROM book
WHERE author = ?
AND coauthor = ?
});
... # --- you are here
... # -- this interval is unknown no matter what the website
says
... #
$cheetah-execute(Tim,Jeff);
Sorry, even the January 2008 date is at least as exaggerated as the
reports of Mark Twain's death. I know you'd like to fetch()
the book, but sorry, the wait will be a bit longer.
--
Jeff
Re: New edition of the Cheetah?
Hi Brian,
Here's where we stand:
$cheetah = $dbh-prepare(q{
SELECT chapters
FROM book
WHERE author = ?
AND coauthor = ?
});
... # --- you are here
... # -- this interval is unknown no matter what the website says
... #
$cheetah-execute(Tim,Jeff);
Sorry, even the January 2008 date is at least as exaggerated as the
reports of Mark Twain's death. I know you'd like to fetch() the book,
but sorry, the wait will be a bit longer.
--
Jeff
Brian H. Oak wrote:
I pre-ordered an updated edition of the Cheetah book, _Programming
the Perl DBI_, on July 24 of this year. I saw it announced and,
having wished for an update for a very long time, bought it on the
spot.
Problem is, the release date keeps slipping. The original ship date
was supposed to be September 24. But then I was told on September 25
that it would ship on November 28. A couple of days ago it slipped
again, this time to January 30, 2008.
I understand that writing and publishing a book is not a trivial
undertaking, but I have to wonder if this particular book is ever
going to materialize. I thought I would pose the question to this
forum, since I have seen at least one of the authors here.
It's not like this new edition is crucial to my ongoing use of the
DBI, but the original was written so long ago that it is almost
useless. I will admit to being a bibliophile, especially when it
comes to Perl books. But it would be extremely nice to get an updated
hardcopy of The State of the DBI.
So does anyone know? Am I wishing in vain? Should I just cancel my
order, which so far has only resulted in intermittent dismay? Are
there others here who share in my disappointment?
Thanks,
-Brian
