Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Matthias Maier]

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017, at 16:12 CDT, Denis Davydov  wrote:

> FYI, this logo is done with a help of qualified (master degree) graphic 
> designer.

I like it very much. +1

Further, the somewhat different color scheme is also very much
appreciated!

We shouldn't have the "jet color bar" in our logo - it is a terrible
choice :-]



I suggest, we simply put a small number of alternative designs on a
webpage and have a vote (the whole community included). 

Best,
Matthias

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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Denis Davydov]

FYI, this logo is done with a help of qualified (master degree) graphic 
designer.

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 11:09:33 PM UTC+2, Timo Heister wrote:
>
> Personally, I prefer the colors and font I used. I like the green dot 
> though! 
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Denis Davydov  > wrote: 
> > Ok, here's my final suggestion for a logo. 
> > The writing is based on Courier IBM, changed to curves and further 
> tweaked. 
> > Three colours are print friendly. 
> > 
> > Regards, 
> > Denis. 
> > 
> > On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 5:59:16 PM UTC+2, Wolfgang Bangerth wrote: 
> >> 
> >> On 08/28/2017 09:35 AM, Matthias Maier wrote: 
> >> > As already mentioned off-list. 
> >> > 
> >> > We should switch to a font with a clear and open license anyway. 
> >> > 
> >> > Maybe the twentieth anniversary is a perfect opportunity to slightly 
> >> > change the logo (and colors)?:-) 
> >> 
> >> I think that proposing to use a different font is fair game while we 
> >> look at the logo. I don't have a particular preference though I think 
> an 
> >> upright and clean font looks best. 
> >> 
> >> Best 
> >>   W. 
> >> 
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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Timo Heister]

Personally, I prefer the colors and font I used. I like the green dot though!

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Denis Davydov  wrote:
> Ok, here's my final suggestion for a logo.
> The writing is based on Courier IBM, changed to curves and further tweaked.
> Three colours are print friendly.
>
> Regards,
> Denis.
>
> On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 5:59:16 PM UTC+2, Wolfgang Bangerth wrote:
>>
>> On 08/28/2017 09:35 AM, Matthias Maier wrote:
>> > As already mentioned off-list.
>> >
>> > We should switch to a font with a clear and open license anyway.
>> >
>> > Maybe the twentieth anniversary is a perfect opportunity to slightly
>> > change the logo (and colors)?:-)
>>
>> I think that proposing to use a different font is fair game while we
>> look at the logo. I don't have a particular preference though I think an
>> upright and clean font looks best.
>>
>> Best
>>   W.
>>
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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Wolfgang Bangerth]

On 08/28/2017 09:35 AM, Matthias Maier wrote:

As already mentioned off-list.

We should switch to a font with a clear and open license anyway.

Maybe the twentieth anniversary is a perfect opportunity to slightly
change the logo (and colors)?:-)


I think that proposing to use a different font is fair game while we 
look at the logo. I don't have a particular preference though I think an 
upright and clean font looks best.


Best
 W.

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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Denis Davydov]

I am fine with adjusting colours, but I like the IBM Courier font as it has 
relevant history behind. 
I believe it is this font which is currently used on a low resolution logo and 
to my knowledge this font is royalty free.
So i would stick with it.

> On 28 Aug 2017, at 17:35, Matthias Maier  wrote:
> 
> As already mentioned off-list.
> 
> We should switch to a font with a clear and open license anyway.
> 
> Maybe the twentieth anniversary is a perfect opportunity to slightly
> change the logo (and colors)? :-)
> 
> Best,
> Matthias
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017, at 10:05 CDT, Jean-Paul Pelteret  
> wrote:
> 
>> Maybe, but its not our current logo but rather a new one? ;-)
>> 
>> On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 5:00:12 PM UTC+2, Timo Heister wrote:
>>> 
>>> My counter: 
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__files.gitter.im_dealii_itGp_logo.png=DwIFaQ=Ngd-ta5yRYsqeUsEDgxhcqsYYY1Xs5ogLxWPA_2Wlc4=4k7iKXbjGC8LfYxVJJXiaYVu6FRWmEjX38S7JmlS9Vw=w-OWsHSFKFvDnpVW9zIrDHHbhcbF69VVZ8_l2TDrs14=7eUaIGiXA633AbVNkMhhGfFdN0m9fwdDWm8xewuKO48=
>>> 
>>> nicer font and nicer colors in my opinion. 
>>> 
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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Matthias Maier]

As already mentioned off-list.

We should switch to a font with a clear and open license anyway.

Maybe the twentieth anniversary is a perfect opportunity to slightly
change the logo (and colors)? :-)

Best,
Matthias


On Mon, Aug 28, 2017, at 10:05 CDT, Jean-Paul Pelteret  
wrote:

> Maybe, but its not our current logo but rather a new one? ;-)
>
> On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 5:00:12 PM UTC+2, Timo Heister wrote:
>>
>> My counter: 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__files.gitter.im_dealii_itGp_logo.png=DwIFaQ=Ngd-ta5yRYsqeUsEDgxhcqsYYY1Xs5ogLxWPA_2Wlc4=4k7iKXbjGC8LfYxVJJXiaYVu6FRWmEjX38S7JmlS9Vw=w-OWsHSFKFvDnpVW9zIrDHHbhcbF69VVZ8_l2TDrs14=7eUaIGiXA633AbVNkMhhGfFdN0m9fwdDWm8xewuKO48=
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>> nicer font and nicer colors in my opinion. 
>>

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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Jean-Paul Pelteret]

Maybe, but its not our current logo but rather a new one? ;-)

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 5:00:12 PM UTC+2, Timo Heister wrote:
>
> My counter: 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__files.gitter.im_dealii_itGp_logo.png=DwIFaQ=Ngd-ta5yRYsqeUsEDgxhcqsYYY1Xs5ogLxWPA_2Wlc4=4k7iKXbjGC8LfYxVJJXiaYVu6FRWmEjX38S7JmlS9Vw=w-OWsHSFKFvDnpVW9zIrDHHbhcbF69VVZ8_l2TDrs14=7eUaIGiXA633AbVNkMhhGfFdN0m9fwdDWm8xewuKO48=
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> 
>  
> nicer font and nicer colors in my opinion. 
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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Timo Heister]

My counter: 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__files.gitter.im_dealii_itGp_logo.png=DwIFaQ=Ngd-ta5yRYsqeUsEDgxhcqsYYY1Xs5ogLxWPA_2Wlc4=4k7iKXbjGC8LfYxVJJXiaYVu6FRWmEjX38S7JmlS9Vw=w-OWsHSFKFvDnpVW9zIrDHHbhcbF69VVZ8_l2TDrs14=7eUaIGiXA633AbVNkMhhGfFdN0m9fwdDWm8xewuKO48=
 
nicer font and nicer colors in my opinion.


On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Wolfgang Bangerth
 wrote:
> On 08/27/2017 05:56 AM, Denis Davydov wrote:
>>
>> Yet another: Courier New Bold, pretty darn close if you ask me. The only
>> difference is rounded ends on I's etc.
>
>
> I like it. Better than Courier (non-New) Bold and the previous font you had.
> Nice work!
>
> Cheers
>  W.
>
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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Jean-Paul Pelteret]

Is it possible to do another one with the “deal.II” name on the RHS, like was 
in the original image? I think that would complete the set :-)

> On 27 Aug 2017, at 12:26, Jean-Paul Pelteret  wrote:
> 
> I think that looks great!
> 
>> On 27 Aug 2017, at 11:54, Denis Davydov > > wrote:
>> 
>> ok, so here's a symmetric by construction logo (from 1/8th of the traced 
>> image.
>> 
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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Jean-Paul Pelteret]

I think that looks great!

> On 27 Aug 2017, at 11:54, Denis Davydov  wrote:
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> ok, so here's a symmetric by construction logo (from 1/8th of the traced 
> image.
> 
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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Denis Davydov]

What I apparently meant is that two sides of the quarter would not be the same 
and thus the logo will be "less" symmetric.
But you are right, one could always recreate the whole logo from a quarter.

Sent from iPhone, please excuse my brevity.

> 27 авг. 2017 г., в 10:43, Jean-Paul Pelteret  
> написал(а):
> 
> Can't one just trace a quarter and mirror it?
> 
>> On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 10:05:00 AM UTC+2, Denis Davydov wrote:
>> another take on tracing the lowres logo via Adobe Illustrator CS6. The main 
>> difference to TImo's is the shape of yellow rim,
>> which IMO is closer to the original raster logo.
>> 
>> But indeed, there is no hope to keep it symmetric based on lowres input, 
>> unless someones jus draws it from scratch :-)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Denis.
>> 
>>> On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 2:03:29 AM UTC+2, Wolfgang Bangerth wrote:
>>> On 08/25/2017 02:14 PM, Timo Heister wrote: 
>>> > I did a quick vector-art sketch of the logo. Infinite resolution! It 
>>> > is not 100% symmetric because I traced the image you sent. Maybe a 
>>> > good starting point though? Maybe we can take the opportunity and 
>>> > tweak the shape/colors a bit? 
>>> 
>>> Nice job. I don't think the asymmetry is visible. Anyone with picture 
>>> editing capabilities out here on the mailing list who'd like to help out 
>>> with the logo? 
>>> 
>>> Cheers 
>>>   W. 
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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Denis Davydov]

I tried that already, the problem is that the sides of the quarter would not 
have the symmetry to build the whole logo

Sent from iPhone, please excuse my brevity.

> 27 авг. 2017 г., в 10:43, Jean-Paul Pelteret  
> написал(а):
> 
> Can't one just trace a quarter and mirror it?
> 
>> On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 10:05:00 AM UTC+2, Denis Davydov wrote:
>> another take on tracing the lowres logo via Adobe Illustrator CS6. The main 
>> difference to TImo's is the shape of yellow rim,
>> which IMO is closer to the original raster logo.
>> 
>> But indeed, there is no hope to keep it symmetric based on lowres input, 
>> unless someones jus draws it from scratch :-)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Denis.
>> 
>>> On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 2:03:29 AM UTC+2, Wolfgang Bangerth wrote:
>>> On 08/25/2017 02:14 PM, Timo Heister wrote: 
>>> > I did a quick vector-art sketch of the logo. Infinite resolution! It 
>>> > is not 100% symmetric because I traced the image you sent. Maybe a 
>>> > good starting point though? Maybe we can take the opportunity and 
>>> > tweak the shape/colors a bit? 
>>> 
>>> Nice job. I don't think the asymmetry is visible. Anyone with picture 
>>> editing capabilities out here on the mailing list who'd like to help out 
>>> with the logo? 
>>> 
>>> Cheers 
>>>   W. 
>>> 
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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Denis Davydov]

another take on tracing the lowres logo via Adobe Illustrator CS6. The main 
difference to TImo's is the shape of yellow rim,
which IMO is closer to the original raster logo.

But indeed, there is no hope to keep it symmetric based on lowres input, 
unless someones jus draws it from scratch :-)

Cheers,
Denis.

On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 2:03:29 AM UTC+2, Wolfgang Bangerth wrote:
>
> On 08/25/2017 02:14 PM, Timo Heister wrote: 
> > I did a quick vector-art sketch of the logo. Infinite resolution! It 
> > is not 100% symmetric because I traced the image you sent. Maybe a 
> > good starting point though? Maybe we can take the opportunity and 
> > tweak the shape/colors a bit? 
>
> Nice job. I don't think the asymmetry is visible. Anyone with picture 
> editing capabilities out here on the mailing list who'd like to help out 
> with the logo? 
>
> Cheers 
>   W. 
>
> -- 
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> Wolfgang Bangerth  email: bang...@colostate.edu 
>  
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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Wolfgang Bangerth]

On 08/25/2017 02:14 PM, Timo Heister wrote:

I did a quick vector-art sketch of the logo. Infinite resolution! It
is not 100% symmetric because I traced the image you sent. Maybe a
good starting point though? Maybe we can take the opportunity and
tweak the shape/colors a bit?


Nice job. I don't think the asymmetry is visible. Anyone with picture 
editing capabilities out here on the mailing list who'd like to help out 
with the logo?


Cheers
 W.

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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Timo Heister]

I did a quick vector-art sketch of the logo. Infinite resolution! It
is not 100% symmetric because I traced the image you sent. Maybe a
good starting point though? Maybe we can take the opportunity and
tweak the shape/colors a bit?

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Wolfgang Bangerth
 wrote:
> On 08/24/2017 01:38 PM, Timo Heister wrote:
>>>
>>> What about putting the logo and a download link to a high resolution
>>> variant on the homepage ont the Info -> License page [1]?
>>
>> That would be great. I also don't think we have a high-resolution
>> (ideally vector art) version yet.
>
>
> Yes, all that sounds good to me, but I don't have anything higher than
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__dealii.org_pictures_hugelogo.jpg=DwICaQ=Ngd-ta5yRYsqeUsEDgxhcqsYYY1Xs5ogLxWPA_2Wlc4=R5lvg9JC99XvuTgScgbY_QFS80R7PEA2q0EPwDy7VQw=Kj5MsAGKUXTegL2CmV8xczjCT037mTko87qMPzQ9Tjk=_YnMI2B0LL03cSWlZxKSrLXwDQvaBJYWiGK9CB2pAAI=
> Best
>  W.
>
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>www:
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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Wolfgang Bangerth]

On 08/24/2017 01:38 PM, Timo Heister wrote:

What about putting the logo and a download link to a high resolution
variant on the homepage ont the Info -> License page [1]?

That would be great. I also don't think we have a high-resolution
(ideally vector art) version yet.


Yes, all that sounds good to me, but I don't have anything higher than
   http://dealii.org/pictures/hugelogo.jpg
Best
 W.

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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Matthias Maier]

What about putting the logo and a download link to a high resolution
variant on the homepage ont the Info -> License page [1]?

Stating something like

  deal.II Logo
  

  The deal.II logo is copyrighted by ... and can be used under a [CC BY 4.0
  license](link to license). You can find a high-resolution version
  [here](link to logo).


Best,
Matthias

[1] http://dealii.org/license.html

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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Wolfgang Bangerth]

On 08/24/2017 08:02 AM, Matthias Maier wrote:

Martin -- good question. I don't think anyone has ever thought about
this. I would say go ahead and use it. Certainly, as the person who
created that picture, I have no objections.

What about we put a small licensing blurb on the homepage? Something
like "CC BY 4.0" [1].


That sounds reasonable. But where would be a good place to put this?

Best
 W.

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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Matthias Maier]

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017, at 08:22 CDT, Wolfgang Bangerth  
wrote:

> Martin -- good question. I don't think anyone has ever thought about
> this. I would say go ahead and use it. Certainly, as the person who
> created that picture, I have no objections.

What about we put a small licensing blurb on the homepage? Something
like "CC BY 4.0" [1].

Best,
Matthias



[1] https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

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Re: [deal.II] Using deal.II logo in publication

[Wolfgang Bangerth]

On 08/23/2017 06:39 PM, Martin Diehl wrote:


I've written a short overview article on continuum scale modeling in which I 
mention deal.II (including the preferred reference and a link to the homepage).
For an attractive paper, I want to include the deal.II-Logo. Are there any 
specific regulations regarding the use of the logo? As far as I figured out, 
it's also open source but since licensing of images and code is rather 
different I want to make sure if it is ok. I would of course share the article 
before publication in case you're interested in the content.


Martin -- good question. I don't think anyone has ever thought about this. I 
would say go ahead and use it. Certainly, as the person who created that 
picture, I have no objections.


We do want to get a link to the article, though, so we can list it on the list 
of publications at

  http://dealii.org/publications.html
We'd appreciate if you could send us a reference once it's published! :-)

Best
 W.

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