Re: [Debconf-discuss] Intro video to ceremony
It will also be published via video.d.n. Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Backpack and key card found at Waldschenke
Hi all, we found a blue-grey backpack at Waldschenke. Find it at reception. Also, we found a key card for room C152 next to the fire; it can be picked up at reception as well. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Complete upstream outage
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Richard Hartmann wrote: > both IPv4 and IPv6 are completely broken at the moment. It's an issue > with upstream, not us, and I have been unable to reach them by either > phone or email up to now. Things have been stable for the last few minutes again, but we don't know what caused it, yet. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Complete upstream outage
Hi all, both IPv4 and IPv6 are completely broken at the moment. It's an issue with upstream, not us, and I have been unable to reach them by either phone or email up to now. Please inform others in case you see this email and use the chance to socialize. Internal network is not affected. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Auf Wiedersehen, und danke für den Fisch
I would prefer bring stung by a wasp over being stung by a bee any day; but bees would simply leave us alone in the first place. Sadly, they are wasps so they will not go away. Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] More service-impacting network upgrades
Dear all, we untangled the hairball and things should be working as expected. If things do not work, please find us at the NOC. Special thanks to jcristau and luca for powering through the night with me. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] More service-impacting network upgrades
Dear all, the server we're using for DHCP, some routing, and other random services has died for the second time within thirteen hours. We will move away services from it, but that means we will once again impact connectivity. We may or may not end up upgrading the software on the wireless access controllers while we're at it, which would lead to an additional downtime of 30-60 minutes, but we will avoid that if we can. We will let you know if we do. Richard PS: Yes, we are aware that most of you rely on WiFi to read email. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] food is great
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: > People from the staff have been very kind and helpful, specially the guy > who looks like Snowden :) FYI, we installed Debian on one of his old laptops, found another laptop that could be given away with current Debian, and have installed several laptops which the staff can loan during the week to play with that weird thing the people who currently invade their premises seem to be so concerned with. Several of them seem quite interested. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Service-impacting network upgrades
Amsterdam, Brussels and the upper floor of A now share a 2G link, the rest is 10G. The WLCs are still on 1G because the LAC seems to be buggy; we will try that again after talking to TAC. Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Service-impacting network upgrades
Dear all, now that we finally have all hardware on site to work around all issues, tonight, we will * Upgrade the upstream link to 1Gbit/s half-duplex (long story...) to 1Gbit/s full duplex * Upgrade all switch backbone links from 1Gbit/s to 10Gbit/s, assuming the OM2 structured pre-cabling allows for that speed * Upgrade the WLC (access controller) links from 1Gbit/s each to 4Gbit/s each * Migrate out the WS-C2960S we've been abusing as media converters * Rebalance the WiFi channel distribution and obviously, we want to be done before the open weekend and DebConf proper. Each of the bullet points above will cause at least one service impact so all of this is a long-winded way of saying that we will have several full and partial downtimes in the network tonight. We will do our very best to keep things short. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Dyeing stencils into hair?
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Richard Hartmann wrote: > Ideally before noon, August 12th. August 13th of course; thanks jcristau :) Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Perseid shower's maximum tonight
Hi all, in case you want to wander outside the city a bit, the perseid shower will be visible tonight; the maximum will be between 0200 and 0400 local: http://www.tagesschau.de/inland/sternschnuppen-103.html https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tagesschau.de%2Finland%2Fsternschnuppen-103.html&edit-text=&act=url Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Dyeing stencils into hair?
Hi all, if anyone of you has experience dyeing stencils into hair, is already on site, and has about an hour of free time, please poke me. Ideally before noon, August 12th. Thanks, Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf Poetry Night!
Just FYI: I asked the venue and we are not allowed to make a fire. Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Smoke-free outdoors areas?
The enclosed patio, the balcony of Heidelberg I/II/III, and the outside hacklab would make sense, imo. Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] TecKids @ DebConf
Dear all, we are happy to announce that TecKids[1], a non-profit specialising in working with kids, teaching them technonology, and fostering self-sustaining communities amongst them, will be holding a workshop from 15.08. to 18.08. The focus is on kids aged 10-15 years old, but kids aged 8-16 years old are welcome to attend if they can follow the course without supervision of theirs parents. You are more than welcome to share this email with non-Debian people who have or know kids who may be interested. As our dear leader Chairman Mau put it, this collaboration is a great opportunity for outreach to people who may otherwise not interact with Debian. Admission is free of charge, but registration through TecKids' web form[2] is mandatory. The rough schedule for now is: * robotics * game programming * Arduino You will be kept up to date on any changes to the schedule and other details by the TecKids team after registration. Richard [1] https://www.teckids.org/ [2] https://www.teckids.org/froglabs_2015_debconf.htm ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] CCCamp to DebConf15 transport by bus
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 10:07 PM, martin f krafft wrote: > Please add yourself to the list if you are interested and *prepared > to pay for this opportunity*. Of course it'll only make sense if the > price is sensible, so you can bank on that. In case you don't have a wiki account, you can let us know in this thread and we can register you. Richard -- Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] LPI exams at DebConf15?
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Would it be possible to invite them to directly negotiate with the > venue over pricing, and pay the venue ? That is, Debconf could > introduce them to the venue administrators and say "we are happy to > have these people present in our space but we need this booking to go > through as a separate contract directly with you". As we have exclusive use of the whole venue, this may be complicated. > (I suppose it would pose slight enforcement difficulties for Debconf > if there were CoC or harassment problems in the exam room but I would > expect a professional organisation of that kind of have its own > antiharassment arrangements - and if anyone was really bad there would > be nothing stopping Debconf barring the perpetrator from everything > except the exam room.) As we have exclusive use of the whole venue, this would not be complicated. Richard PS: If all else fails, we tell the Youth Hostel that a certain person is not welcome and they can kick them off the premises. I highly doubt that this will be more than a theoretical exercise, though. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] LPI exams at DebConf15?
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > b) While LPI is a e.V. in Germany, the exams usually cost money. I am >not to happy to give them room into an event like DebConf where they >earn money at the event, and therefor could also afford to rent their >own room for that. This also came up yesterday; I think we are all agreed that they should not incur extra cost for us. We might ask them to rent a room from us (i.e. donate), but I am not sure if they would be interested in that. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Talk lengths
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > To me this sounds like a very good proposal we should try out. Having > one room setup for BoFs permanently would help having these sessions in > an adequate setup. I also like the idea of having IRC on a projector. A dedicated BoF room with BoF infrastructure would be great indeed. As to the hardware, maybe we can look at creating a budget section with optional wishlist items and order those based on discussion. RIchard -- Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] door signs with schedule (Re: remote participation in DebConf
And keep them up to date in case of changes. Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Requiring work in exchange of sponsoring? (was: remote participation in DebConf)
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Richard Hartmann wrote: > FOSDEM uses a system where volunteers can look through open tasks and > assign themselves to any they feel like helping with. > > This is a new-ish system and it served us _incredibly_ well. I will > see if we can just steal that. https://github.com/jrial/fosdem-volunteers It's hard-coded to Penta atm, but it should be reasonably easy to modularize and have a summit option. jrial will join #debconf-team later today so we can talk specifics. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Requiring work in exchange of sponsoring? (was: remote participation in DebConf)
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:55 PM, martin f krafft wrote: > Given that we are a volunteer-run conference, I think everyone > already knows that we need all the help, and many already pick up > pieces where they can and see them. FOSDEM uses a system where volunteers can look through open tasks and assign themselves to any they feel like helping with. This is a new-ish system and it served us _incredibly_ well. I will see if we can just steal that. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] remote participation in DebConf
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Philip Hands wrote: > This sounds like a job for a new volunteer, unless people think that > i.e. the talk-meister should have enough spare time at that point in a > talk, but then it needs to be made very clear to the volunteers that that > is part of the role. The talk-meister may be chasing the next speaker, an adapter, or whatever for the next talk during the run-out of the current talk. Other ideas: * A good seat in the front with a sign "if you sit here, you're the IRC volunteer" * The talk-meister designates an IRC volunteer for each talk. * The talk-meister/video team reminds everyone to look into IRC when the QA starts. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] remote participation in DebConf
Could the video volunteer peek into a dedicated question channel during the qa part? Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration
I whole-heartedly agree with your email, except for one detail. Thank you for writing it. On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:18 AM, Patty Langasek wrote: > If you don't, and you simply > want to bikeshed and provoke fights about dietary choices or needs, please > start a new thread. Actually, please do not. Thanks, Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration
If there is a no video zone and someone asks from there, they are not taped. If they ask from anywhere else, they are taped. If someone deviates from majority opinion and does not want their picture taken, they should be recognizable as such and a lanyard works here. Design for the common case while accommodating for valid special cases. I don't see why this approach is so controversial/insufficient. Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration
On Sep 14, 2014 9:25 PM, "Aigars Mahinovs" wrote: > There are really only three options: either we minimize the default > conference experience to lowest common denominator, or we ignore > minority preferences, or we identify people with additional > preferences and provide them with special attention. I think we are > better than the first two options. Thank you for this summary. I agree. Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Paul Wise wrote: >> Would signs at the entrance to talk rooms and/or "no video" areas inside >> the rooms be enough. > > That would help for the audience side of things yes. Not in the context of the lanyards, though. If you have that lanyard, whatever its colour may be, and sit in an area with video-taping, one default _has_ to prevail over the other. And what happens if a room is crowded and only video seating is left? Making "no photo/video" the binding default (as suggested throughout this thread a few times) seems to invite problems down the road; and it's not as if the video team is complaining that they have too little work as it is. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Tagging is a different issue. IMO nobody should tag any other person on > any photo. I'm well aware that with todays face recognition technology > this won't help much, but still I belive there's a difference between > having an anonymous picture published and putting names to the > persons on it. > > Of course not tagging someone does not mean that it's OK to make the > picture if the person does not want to be photographed. I was referring specifically to this: https://wiki.debconf.org/upload/thumb/f/f5/Debconf13_group_photo_with_tags.jpeg/1000px-Debconf13_group_photo_with_tags.jpeg I am not sure I ever consented and this tagging seems to be a tradition. >> * What defines a "photo of a person"? I suspect we will all agree that >> that "frontal body shot including face" meets all criteria while "half >> a shoe" does not. Specifically, I am wondering if having a profile or >> the back of someone's head in a picture, even though those people >> don't want to be photographed, would be OK. Personally, I think a >> profile is too much and a back-of-the-head shot should be avoided if >> possible. > > I'd say as long as the person is recognizable. That's also the > definition the law uses at least in Germany. That's suitably opaque to invite endless discussion ;) But on a good faith basis, it's most likely sufficient. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Fascinated to see dedicated attendee at Debconf14 with 'Blindness'
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Robert Edmonds wrote: > It would be nice if questioners would introduce themselves after taking > the microphone for the first time. At larger conferences (e.g., NANOG) > this is virtually a requirement, and very helpful for first time > attendees. That's not a bad idea. I am unsure where we could document this so it's not forgotten in a year... And of course, this would be purely optional. > An attendee list for the entire conference, perhaps accessible only to > other attendees and perhaps opt-in or opt-out, would also have been very > helpful. It would need to be opt-in. There's an ongoing discussion about who should see what level of detail in this regard, but expect the answer to be on the paranoid side; and for good reason. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:22 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: > ok, found my words again: make these the lanyards for people who want their > pictures taken. (and TBH, I think this years white swirly ones were quite very > well visible - once again perfect is the enemy of good. ;-) Agreed; perfect is the enemy of good. A workable solution for all sides seems to be better than a perfect solution [for one group]. One that, realistically speaking, puts so much burden on another group that said solution may end up being generally ignored. With your video hat on: How do you propose to do room shots? Who will contact all the speakers and people asking questions who forgot their lanyard before uploading video? Some numbers on how many people checked the "no photo" option vs how many did not might help here, but I suspect that the common case is "photo" and that's what we should design for: the common case. Richard PS: This stance could be applied to all sorts of other preferences as well. Should we default to fruitarian food? Personally, I would _really_ like a totally non-smoking venue, including outdoors. Yes, this is reductio ad absurdum on purpose to illustrate my point. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration
Second times' the charm... http://www.chapea.com/Lanyard-Reflectante/en http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Hot-sale-and-promotional-reflector-Lanyard_1104449300.html So those exist and they should show up on all flash photographs. Of course they will be more or less invisible to sesse with his D4 and a few kilograms of glass. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: > if we can make a no-photo lanyard be double > wide *and* light up when exposed to photo flash (like the pedestrian > safety reflectors) I actually tried to find those first for exactly that reason, and settled for neon later. I was only able to find the latter earlier. On the other hand, getting them custom-made at a reasonable price should be doable, seeing that we would have almost a year's time. If anyone wants to look for suitable lanyards as well, "high-vis" is a good keyword for those reflectors. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:13 AM, Margarita Manterola wrote: > Proposal: > > Any public presentation which is part of any event, including but not > limited to keynotes, presentations, lightning talks, addresses, mailing list > posts and forums, is subject to this code of conduct and thus may not contain: > > Sexual or violent imagery; > +Insults or ad-hominem attacks; > > + We also ask you to avoid language which is not appropriate for an all-ages > audience as much as possible. > > + If the content of the presentation requires including language that could > be considered offensive, this should be pointed out in advance, at the > beginning of the talk and in the schedule. > > If presenters are unsure whether their material is suitable, they are > encouraged to show it to the DebConf Talks Team before their session. > Fully agreed. It's very useful to have something to point to when people overdo $something and then claim it's fully OK to do so so I wouldn't want the reference to swearwords removed entirely. Yet it's important to not just enforce rules mindlessly, overly aggressively, or, worst of all, abuse them as a weapon. The above strikes the balance between those two goals. As an aside, I feel it's important to point out that the above does not include interactions in hallways, etc. Dictating what words consenting adults use in communication with each other (while staying within legal limits, etc) would not be overly inclusive. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration
Three corner cases I can't get out of my mind: * What about people who appear to the group photo while wearing no-photo lanyards? I think keeping the shot as-is, but not tagging them by name, would be prudent. * What about people who seat themselves in the normal talk room audience, or even act as speaker etc, and have a no-photo lanyard? My gut feeling is that both these actions imply consent to be video-taped as long as the talk is taped/streamed in the first place. * What defines a "photo of a person"? I suspect we will all agree that that "frontal body shot including face" meets all criteria while "half a shoe" does not. Specifically, I am wondering if having a profile or the back of someone's head in a picture, even though those people don't want to be photographed, would be OK. Personally, I think a profile is too much and a back-of-the-head shot should be avoided if possible. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > You could have the happy-with-photography lanyards be bright colors, and > hand out dark or black lanyards for the people who have not opted into > being photographed. The issue, to me, is that you need bright colours for people who do _not_ want to be photographed. Else, it will make it even harder to avoid taking pictures of or to spot accidental shots of people who don't want to be photographed after the fact. > We know that all of the proposed solutions will not solve the problem > for everyone, and that people who decide to not respect the requests of > other people will be able to violate the rules anyway. That is a social problem, so technical solutions won't work anyway. Social solutions like approaching people and talking to them about respecting the wishes of others, however... > But (a) providing differentiable lanyards; (b) setting one of the > hackrooms off-limits to all cameras; and (c) designating a section of > talk rooms where people can be without being filmed or photographed (and > letting them ask questions from that location without being filmed > instead of excluding them from the interaction) seem like very decent > and reasonable steps to take toward respecting each other and our > different needs and desires. Let's do them, even though they won't fix > everything. Aye. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:26 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: > so why do have children "more rights" than other attendees? (and don't get me > wrong, I fully support that Both socially and legally speaking, the concept of parents/guardians exists for the very reason that children need more protection than adults. > - just think about the question... for me the > conclusion was+is: nobody should be photographed without their explicit > consent.) > > Another solution to the "don't photograph me^w^wviolate privacy" dilemma could > be that photos could only be taken between 1300-1400 each day, plus the first > 5m of every talk... IOW: make the default photo free. > > Which I think is actually sensible for all areas - except maybe talks + other > events. But in hallways & hacklabs & everywhere else the rule should be: don't > take pictures of people withour their prior consent. > > Which I understand is not the case in most areas outside DebConf, but noone > said we couldn't do better then what's usual ;) I know what you are getting at and I personally don't like to have my picture taken lightly either, but... is this even remotely realistic and/or enforceable? As Aigars points out, that will lose a _lot_ of good photo ops. I will make "in action" photographs more or less impossible which, to me, would be a shame. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: > Children should *not* be photographed without prior consent > from their parents. Just to re-iterate this point: This makes sense in all cases and no matter what, if anything, we end up doing, this should be communicated clearly to every attendee at least once. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > (Due to the particular room configurations and camera angles in place this > time, the "do not film" area was "somewhere outside the talk room and watch > the talk via the stream". Black cardboard cutouts could work in case DC15 and following run into similar issues. > But that's largely beside the point, given the > high quality of our realtime streaming and the fact that if you don't want > to be on camera you shouldn't be reaching for the microphone either.) I am not sure... If people from that area want to ask a question, they could do so without a camera being trained upon them. Fade over to the slides, room, or speaker, and done. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Philipp Kern wrote: > Rooms that are being videotaped are also to be marked, fwiw. Valid point. It feels silly, but taping camera warnings to the doors can't hurt. Unless there are signs at the entrance of the Youth Hostel, already. Richard -- Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Gunnar Wolf (personal) wrote: > I also think the photo-free zones would not be a solution. Not fully, especially considering that people need to walk around to get from A to B and making the hallways no-photo seems like unenforceable overkill. Yet, it would be trivial to designate a hack room as no-photo zone. Preferably one of the quiet hack rooms as that seems to combine well. > I think the way out is a visibly distinct conference badge; if the lanyard > color is clearly different, and we are all aware that "orange lanyard > means no photos", we will more likely respect it (at least, I surely will). Colour-coded lanyards and badges are relatively low-hanging fruit. There should be an understanding that they can not guard against being photographed in all possible circumstances, though. Another option would be a different-coloured conference shirt, but that will introduce logistics issues and along with a host of other issues... Fwiw, there seem to be lanyards in various neon colours on the web. Richard PS: Asking people who do not want to be photographed to wear bright colours is somewhat counter-intuitive... ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:12 PM, martin f krafft wrote: > The only thing I would like to see changed is that the photo data > don't go to Google or Flickr or whoever else, but stay on our own > infrastructure with a clear message that they must not appear on > Facebook or other such thievery services. While I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment, I am not sure if it's possible to really require this. This also brings us to the question of if stripping metadata from photos would be a sane default. But it's as hard to require, or even enforce, so... Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] First videos are now online
Can you magic up a way to convert URL content into links to the actual WWW target? Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-team] [Debconf-announce] First videos are now online
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Carl Karsten wrote: > the good news is the string and summit db key is here: > http://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/C/debian/S/debconf14.json > > "slug": "HPs_OpenStack_Helion_Debian_all_the_way_down", > "conf_url": > "https://summit.debconf.org/debconf14/meeting/134/hps-openstack-helion-debian-all-the-way-down/";, > "conf_key": "134", > > "state": 3 or above are the videos that have been encoded and I expect to > find them in > http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2014/debconf14/ As I said on IRC a few times, I still think it would make sense to prefix this ID to all talk names. Though, arguably, the longer this does not happen, the less use it is. Richard PS: Also as per IRC, we would probably need to symlink already-published videos to their new names; else random links people may have would break. -- Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] First videos are now online
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Josh Triplett wrote: > Also, should we expect the videos to show up under > http://annex.debconf.org/debconf-share/debconf14/ at some point? *cough* oups *cough* They are in the annex (I just synced another batch which I had added on disk over time). That being said, they're there as web URLs, not files; I simply forgot about the web front-end. Maybe it's possible to have git-annex magic some links to the mirrors (CC'ed joeyh); else, I will need to poke Ganneff (also CC'ed) about space usage. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: > I would like to ask to remove the "Do not photograph me" checkbox in > Debconf registration form as we do not really have a technology to > implement that. > [...] While we could colour-code badges and lanyards, this is not fool-proof. Different shirts are not feasible for a myriad of reasons. All in all, I agree with your assessment and your conclusions. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Code of Conduct violations handling process
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > It's also possible that, as a matter of course, we should ensure that the > antiharassment team responds timely in writing to all complaints, even if > there is an out-of-band follow-up. Following up in the same media used for a complaint is good. I feel it's important to note that this does _not_ imply that the actual decision, and possible actions taken, if any, are relayed in all cases, though. This should be decided case-by-case. Richard -- Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf14 Assassins Game: results
ITYM beak... Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Lanyard and Conference Bag Recycle
If you have a cheap international source, I may be interested with my FOSDEM hat on as well. Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Lanyard and Conference Bag Recycle
Great! Can you document sizing/model of the badges here and put a note into one of the holders? Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Lanyard and Conference Bag Recycle
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Patty Langasek wrote: > If you would like to "recycle" your lanyard and/or bag, please feel free to > bring them to the Front Desk and we can redistribute or reuse them for you. Would it make sense for people from Germany to take them back with them, piecemeal or as a whole? Unless I am mistaken, they will next be needed here. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Group photo reminder
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > will you provide these fotos elsewhere too? Preferably by Free means. If you need help with the debconf git-annex, find joeyh on site or me on IRC. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Summit discussion on Thursday, 11:00am (18:00 UTC)
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > Also penta had similar issues, but I think if we can restart from zero I don't have a real opinion on either software (yet), but I know Philip Paeps of FOSDEM fame has taken it upon himself to become upstream(ish) for penta. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Video RSS for the recordings? (Was: First videos are now online)
Full quote below as I am cross-posting to vcs-home. I am half-wondering if such a publishing functionality would make sense for git-annex itself... What can be done in any case is to publish updates to planet.d.o - Would that also help? Richard On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Richard Hartmann] >> Dear all, >> >> the first videos are now online and ready for your consumption: >> >> http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2014/debconf14/ > > Thank you very much. I've already seen two of the talks, and look > forward to more. :) > > Would it be possible for you to create a Video RSS[1] compatible with > Miro[2] somewhere to get it to automatically notify me and others when > new videos come online? It should be fairly easy to generate based on > the task description and a link to the video file. NUUG got an > example RSS file[3] if you wonder what the format is. :) > > [1] http://www.rssboard.org/media-rss > > [2] http://www.getmiro.com/ > > [3] http://www.nuug.no/pub/video/nuug-video-ogv.rss > > > -- > Happy hacking > Petter Reinholdtsen > ___ > Debconf-discuss mailing list > Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss -- Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] First videos are now online
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Amazing! Will these videos also be published to the debconf-share git > annex repository already as they are uploaded to the meetings-archive. I didn't plan to do this at all, but as there seems to interested, I just added them. (This step will take me long-ish as my local Slowternet is slow). Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf file sharing via debconf-share git-annex repository
Please commit early and often for the benefit of people not on site. You don't need to upload videos, they will be handled via git-annex in the background anyway. Does not hurt though either. It had been observed that this is my signature, Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Does anyone bring a Jolla phone to DebConf?
If all else fails, a Jolla employee volunteers for FOSDEM and brings phones with him. Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] RIPE Atlas Probe at DebConf14
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Luca Filipozzi wrote: > I > measure ping to planet.debian.org from 20 other probes around the world, > giving > me a sense of latency to that website by users in different parts of the > world. > My DSA colleagues (Martin, Peter and Tollef) like this so much that they've > become (or are in the process of becoming) probe hosts, too! If you enjoy the limited functionality of Atlas probes, you may want to consider joining the NLNOG Ring[1] directly or via a sponsor. Richard [1] https://ring.nlnog.net/ ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] debconf15 logo contest: voting begins
Just in case we ever need this: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Voting was open until 23:59 GMT, Sunday June 1st 2014. K has won Original votes: RichiH: J, E, D, G, A, H, K, L, B, C, F, I jandd: K, J, E, D, F, G, H, B, L, C, A, I bwh:L, K, H, D, F, A, C, G, E, J, I, B maxy: D, L, K, I, B, G, H, F, J, E, A, C mikapfl:F, H, C, A, B, G, L, E, D, J, K, I _rene_: K, L, D, F, G, E, J, H, A, C, B, I madduck:B, A, C, L, D, K, J, E, F, H, I, G nomeata:E, J, L, K, D, G, H, F, I, A, C, B tmancill: L, K, D, G, F, I, H, A, B, J, E, C hefee: H, I, J, E, G, F, L, K, D, B, A, C hvhaugwitz: K, D, J, E, L, G, A, B, F, C, H, I Sledge: D, E, F, J, K, L, I, H, C, A, B, G Gunnar: D, L, F, K, H, E, J, G, B, A, C, I larjona:K, F, E, D, G, J, I, H, B, A, C, L Loni: E, J, H, I, G, F, D, L, K, B, A, C Penny: K, B, L, D, A, C, E, J, F, H, I, G h01ger: K, L, E, D, J, H, NOTA Miriam: K, D, L, G, H, F, J, E, A, C, B, I Ganneff:K, J, D, E, NOTA Marga: E, K, H, D, J, L, G, F, I, A, B, C zigo: D, K, G, J, E, F, H, I, B, C, A, L mbanck: K, L, D, E, J, NOTA nattie: K, L, D, G, H, F, E, J, I, B, A, C pixelpapst: FD, J, B, NOTA -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTksjiAAoJEGkGSwGVIG3TwlsP/33G3Ohth8GwHaTjxrqkVMTw RBdz0gFIfIaLeBuiEauSmKunjiv9W4jnXBq4e/UkzlWzhTcVCSkM4HlrcaiBCeSi okD7VD7N+01sLr/TtTrqsHjMU8S/lIb4QIEsgB7xS0/Y4gZAf99rYdDx2HT0yKRM XKcJ8mp0eX727s54yowctXxDA0tfYQWvlXXxi7BWhZgFWbnCTecePGA7eb6IDzlY 6ukfXgm2k8wPjMgD2nLyvw4PGxFQkPqYeC7nZTYNFaavhwF2H5vVsGYFYd7E22xl DF+2P2AHuDU5rY4ELR7TorLfN6OvtI0g+GrGTL2dzRGumZyWIwShYdh1f2/irElR SU68cZuiZywUKPmgazs94o1qFMNFnhJdB0m+O3+hl4GOtFkfbgBbuq7w2SBFQCAk cNSF+sgSkYAWJowBm9sKNWUE+yY61fldWp+O4J3g678rZPkndFnTZWBcJ0cWcofv IlhmaZ/U1bk/rqWtZkeKX5oXN05iD5ER68cm+efnk7LubqRNahtJkTPoRjEFMjPW QYEn3QPEWoFC2KUdIcmXOBkmdDU44XoAXTdt7PHoQf4gJZXKToWY6+HHYsHDwj6O a6y6i64RsQpuW0qyQFw0B78E/ZIK0mDvFMYV27DgM+srpcpVpyKyjjvHF3r8ukUK oTVAkqj5bhuXAARy56A4 =6d07 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Idea: real-time captioning
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Richard Hartmann wrote: > I know. CCC did this; I think their code is available. My cell phone inserted a full stop; this was meant to read "I know CCC did this" in reply to pabs. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Idea: real-time captioning
I know. CCC did this; I think their code is available. Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] debconf15 logo contest: voting begins
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:21 AM, Richard Hartmann wrote: > voting has closed and K has won. After some more thought, this is a valid point and it should have been raised earlier. We can do a logo with rounded-off borders&edges or something, but that will still stand out in print, etc. On the other hand, there was overwhelming support of the underlying design with most differing votes within that group being about colour scheme, etc. For a short time, L was tied... I would argue that there's a certain artistic freedom when it comes to hard realities like adapting to print. Valessio, can you whip up a few optimized versions soon? From what I hear the sponsorship brochure and website are moving as well so we should have final, optimized versions by then. Thanks, Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] debconf15 logo contest: voting begins
Dear all, voting has closed and K has won. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] debconf15 logo contest: voting begins
Break the tie by voting? Most people re-voted instantly anyway, so... Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] debconf15 logo contest: voting begins
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Richard Hartmann wrote: > Peope who still need to re-vote as of right now are: I poked the remaining ones via mail. As of right now, we have a tie, so we need more votes :) Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] debconf15 logo contest: voting begins
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Richard Hartmann wrote: Peope who still need to re-vote as of right now are: algernon Debcool h01ger hvhaugwitz Miriam sim6 Sledge vorlon Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] debconf15 logo contest: voting begins
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Richard Hartmann wrote: > I took the opportunity to open a new vote with Concordet and the new options. If you (re)vote, please make a full list as my online tool can't use partial ones. Thanks, Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] debconf15 logo contest: voting begins
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Penny Leach wrote: > Since 10 (& now 11) are both remixes rather than new logos I'm happy to > add them to the voting table if people think it's reasonable. I took the opportunity to open a new vote with Concordet and the new options. Penny: Feel free to delete that section People who voted already: Please vote again in the new vote People who didn't vote yet: Please vote in both old and new in case the new one falls through Sorry for rushing ahead but I feel this is best, Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] debconf15 logo contest: voting begins
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Penny Leach wrote: > As to your logo, not sure what we should do about that. What did you > intend by adding it to the overview? I consider 4 & 5 the best, but wasn't truly happy with either of them. I realized _why_ and mixed the good parts. As I was after the deadline, I didn't just want to change the voting page, though. Richard ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] debconf15 logo contest: voting begins
Dear all, Can we do concordet instead of single-vote? There are online tools like [1] so there's no need for devotee or similarly complex workflows. Also, I know that this is too late, but I threw another hat in the round. It's a mix of 4 and 5; I filed it under 10 but only added it to the overview, not the voting page. Richard [1] http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~legrand/rbvote/calc.html ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
