Needless restriction to DebConf18 statistics page

2018-08-05 Thread Kentaro Hayashi
Hi,

Thank you for DebConf18 team and atendees! I could enjoyed DebConf18!

By the way, the following page is required login with Debian SSO, but it
seems that
there is no need to do so. Could you get rid of access restriction?

https://debconf18.debconf.org/statistics/

Regards,

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Share our Scripts session notes

2018-08-05 Thread Paul Wise
Hi all,

Yesterday some folks shared and discussed their scripts and we took
some notes about the discussion, copied below for posterity.

If you are interested in getting copies of or discussing any of the
scripts, please contact the folks who shared them.

20180805 15:00 Asia/Taipei

Share our Scripts
=

Agenda
--

Introductions & script samples
Discussion
Places to send scripts
Script transfer

Scripts
---

Sean -> 13 git subcommands
git-unshallow: turn shallow clone into a “proper” one
git-pull-safe: fast-forward all branches it can
https://git.spwhitton.name/dotfiles & 
https://git.spwhitton.name/propellor
insinuate-dotfiles (secure dotfile transfer to porterboxen)
myrepos wrappers
find any unregistered repo
find stuff that isn't pushed
git push-all: does what is on the tin
(pre)offcaff: offline caff
rebuild-rdeps -> ratt

Balint - automatic package update preparation script (build/test/etc)
 - packages the collection of scripts in debian-dad
   - ubuntu-dev-tools: mk-sbuild

nicoo - installs everything via ansible
  -> sbuild + lintian/QA/... + repositories integration setup
 https://github.com/nbraud/ansible/tree/master/roles/dev/debian
 https://github.com/nbraud/vagrant-sbuild is just that slapped in a VM

  - dotfile deployment scripts with git and gpg sig verification
 https://github.com/nbraud/ansible.dotfiles
 based on GNU Stow, but planning on switching to emanate:
   https://github.com/duckinator/emanate/
   (disclaimer: My partner wrote it and I sent patches and love poems)

  - wemux - tmux session sharing
  - acaff - offline mode

enrico - file transfer script: pokes router+DDNS, serves file over HTTP
   - ncdu support for git-annex
   - debug-on-porterbox

sarnold - Ubuntu security scanning scripts

pabs - filter unattended-upgrades output
   -> unattended-upgrades bug
   git-review (but not the git-review in the archive) (review incoming and 
outgoing commits)
   list hosting things?
   things-to-do: extracts and shuffles TODO lists from source repositories
   check-all-the-things
   https://github.com/osamuaoki/git-cvs

norbert - automatic mail sync script
- complex subversion to git mirroring script

Diziet - git rebase-interdiff

#!/bin/bash
set -e
gitdir=`git-rev-parse --git-dir`
read <"$gitdir"/rebase-merge/stopped-sha stopped
diff -u "$@" <(git show --oneline -p $stopped) <(git diff HEAD) \
  | tail +3 \
  | less +/'^[-+][-+]'

# ^ MIT

 chiark-scripts
   - git-cache-proxy (read-only) 
   - cvs-repomove: moves CVS repos around
   - git branch-move
   - hexterm: interactive binary protocol terminal
   - xduplic-copier -> cluster-ssh, tmux multiplexing
 822-date -> date -r
 /usr/local/bin/init -> mollyguard
 fakedaemon -> nc

Ben - salsa.d.o/kernel-team/kernel-team
  - git format-patch-for-debian: add bug/origin fields (DEP-3 metadata)
- currently quite specific to Linux kernel git
  - d-k-prerelease: consistency checks on the working tree, finalise 
changelogs
  - d-k-tag: Tag based on changelog data

binview, a hexdump wrapper, obsoleted by hd (hexdump -C)


Places to put scripts
--

git-extras
devscripts
ubuntu-dev-tools
pkg-perl-tools
moreutils
mailscripts
-scripts
stuff them into related packages
publish on github/gitlab/etc
not every script needs full documentation etc
what about https://salsa.debian.org/debian/misc-scripts ??

Obsoleted scripts
-

Workarounds for lack of features that appear later.
Breakage in scripts due to changes.

-- 
bye,
pabs

https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise


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Re: Shipping Debian merch/goodies to India

2018-08-05 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Please note that this is also a good occasion for bid Debconf committee to 
setup a group of people, start organising thing together, and also start to 
think all financial issues that we have on paying and selling stuffs. This is 
an important first step. (remember that talk is cheap and organising is very 
time expensive: these are the two most important discoveries on Debconf 
organising).

ciao Cate (and sorry for the top reply).



On 5 August 2018 17:19:31 GMT+08:00, rajudev  wrote:
>
>As has been pointed out by other people on this thread.
>We can print out some local Debian swags.
>I'll try to do that when I get back from DebConf. 
>I would be bringing some Debian stickers along with me. 
>And we would print some more stickers.
>People can take the swags from me when they meet me.
>Or they can ask me directly to get it shipped to them. 
>
>>
>
>
>>‌

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Re: Shipping Debian merch/goodies to India

2018-08-05 Thread Kartik Kulkarni
Off topic :
@shirish just wanted to know if you are talking about Pirate Praveen or
maybe someone else...


Re: Shipping Debian merch/goodies to India

2018-08-05 Thread Carsten Schoenert
Am 05.08.18 um 16:42 schrieb Vishal Gupta:
...
> Where can I find some high resolution debian designs ?
> (I did manage to find a good-enough logo though)

Have a look at
https://www.debian.org/logos/

You will for sure look for the svg files so you can do graphics no
matter which size.

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Suggestions, questions and concerns about DebConf19?

2018-08-05 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
Hello,

Suggestions, questions and concerns about DebConf19?
Please write on the pad below (we really need your help):
https://pad.riseup.net/p/DC19Suggestions-keep

Best regards,

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Re: Shipping Debian merch/goodies to India

2018-08-05 Thread shirish शिरीष
at bottom :-

On 05/08/2018, Vishal Gupta  wrote:
> @Gunnar, well said.
> It's great to know that you've been a long-time contributor.
> We could print some swag for GSoC students and contributors around Chennai,
> India.
> Where can I find some high resolution debian designs ?
> (I did manage to find a good-enough logo though)
>
> To the people who're interested,
> I did a bit of research. Found this site : https://inkmonk.com/
> T-Shirts - $5
> Hoodies - $9
> Laptop Sleeve - $12
>
> Let me know if you'd like to get something printed.
> Regards,
> Vishal Gupta
> ‌

Dear Vishal,

While I dunno about Chennai, there is a small town/village at the end
of Tamil Nadu where there is a huge cottage industry where T-shirts,
hoodies etc. are printed and sent all over India and even abroad. If
needed will have to dig through my mail/bookmarks etc. I do have that
info. somewhere although Praveen and somebody else whose name I have
forgotten at the moment had shared they got the material and the
printing done at the same place.

The only reason I say this is that all the T-shirts that Praveen got
printed I used till years till they got frayed and torn but most of
them went around 3-4 years and were cheap.

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Re: Last call for t-shirts selling

2018-08-05 Thread Tobias Frost
Am 5. August 2018 16:39:39 GMT+08:00 schrieb Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana 
:
>Hi,
>
>Last call for t-shirts selling. Sizes straight and fitted for NTD 150.
>
>You can give to a friend as a present, right? :-)

If you have a fitted s or m please reserve one for me. I'll be at mirc in an 
hour...



Re: Shipping Debian merch/goodies to India

2018-08-05 Thread rajudev



On 4 अगस्त 2018 8:28:10 pm GMT+08:00, Vishal Gupta  wrote:
>Hey all,
>I'm a GSoC student from India and I'd really like some Debian/Debconf
>stickers and T-shirts.
>Could someone ship them to Chennai, India ?
>Or if someone from India is at Debconf, could you ship it to Chennai
>when
>you get back ?
>
>I could pay for the shipping and merch.
>Would mean a lot if you could help.
>Thanks.
>Vishal Gupta



As has been pointed out by other people on this thread.
We can print out some local Debian swags.
I'll try to do that when I get back from DebConf. 
I would be bringing some Debian stickers along with me. 
And we would print some more stickers.
People can take the swags from me when they meet me.
Or they can ask me directly to get it shipped to them. 

>


>‌

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Re: J.J. Cheers tonight

2018-08-05 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello,

On Sun, Aug 05 2018, Norbert Preining wrote:

>> We will go again tonight around 9pm~10pm.  About 20 minutes walk.
>
> Meeting point at the frontdesk? Sounds like a good plan.

Somewhere around frontdesk and the noisy hacklab.

-- 
Sean Whitton



Re: Shipping Debian merch/goodies to India

2018-08-05 Thread Vishal Gupta
@Gunnar, well said.
It's great to know that you've been a long-time contributor.
We could print some swag for GSoC students and contributors around Chennai,
India.
Where can I find some high resolution debian designs ?
(I did manage to find a good-enough logo though)

To the people who're interested,
I did a bit of research. Found this site : https://inkmonk.com/
T-Shirts - $5
Hoodies - $9
Laptop Sleeve - $12

Let me know if you'd like to get something printed.
Regards,
Vishal Gupta
‌

On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 12:14 AM Gunnar Wolf  wrote:

> Kartik Kulkarni dijo [Sat, Aug 04, 2018 at 09:13:40PM +0530]:
> > Oh I am not a GSoC student either...I wasn't being clear in my previous
> > email so I wanted to clear the misunderstanding.
> >
> > And would we be able to get those goodies if we arrange for prepaid
> > shipping from any place in India? Also if someone from Bangalore has
> > attended the debconf and was willing to get it I would personally head
> > anywhere near Bangalore to collect it.
>
> Thing is... We appreciate your enthusiasm, and would love to have a
> way to bring you closer to contributing to Debian!
>
> However, our distribution is just a group of people. There is no
> company behind Debian. We don't _have_ "official swag", other than the
> shirts we print specifically for our conference's attendees (and we
> don't often print enough to have spares and send elsewhere - Sometimes
> we might have some to spare, but surely not always!
>
> As a 15-year-old Debian Developer, I was waiting for DebConf to get a
> nice Debian sticker to put in my new (used, ≈5-year-old)
> laptop. Debian didn't give me one - I bought it from the Brazilian
> group, who came with quite a bit of things to sell and fund next
> year's conference.
>
> I encourage you to reduce the pollution in our world. If you want
> Debian-themed products, print them locally in India! They will surely
> be cheaper, and from I know from you, they will have even a higher
> quality than European ones. Plus, you don't have to burn plane fuel to
> have them transported from somewhere far far away to your home!
>
> Go to your friendliest neighborhood printer. Make many
> stickers. Prepare lots of shirts. Do a nice run of USB sticks. Use
> them yourselves, or sell them to other free software enthusiasts.
>


Last call for t-shirts selling

2018-08-05 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
Hi,

Last call for t-shirts selling. Sizes straight and fitted for NTD 150.

You can give to a friend as a present, right? :-)

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Re: J.J. Cheers tonight

2018-08-05 Thread David Prévot
Hi,

Le 05/08/2018 à 15:39, Norbert Preining a écrit :
>> We will go again tonight around 9pm~10pm.  About 20 minutes walk.
> 
> Meeting point at the frontdesk? Sounds like a good plan.

If you miss the departure, want to go earlier/later/by other means, this
map may help you:

https://osmand.net/go.html?lat=24.79774=120.99597=18

Regards

David



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Re: J.J. Cheers tonight

2018-08-05 Thread Norbert Preining
> We will go again tonight around 9pm~10pm.  About 20 minutes walk.

Meeting point at the frontdesk? Sounds like a good plan.

Norbert

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J.J. Cheers tonight

2018-08-05 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello,

Last night le petit lapin et moi (taffit and I) went to a bar called
J.J. Cheers.  They have beer and also very reasonably priced cocktails.

We will go again tonight around 9pm~10pm.  About 20 minutes walk.
Please join us.

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Re: DVD about investing in Hsinchu Science Park

2018-08-05 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello,

On Sat 04 Aug 2018 at 05:37PM +0800, Sean Whitton wrote:

> Apparently those who went on Day Trip A received a DVD about investing
> in Hsinchu Science Park which was interesting from the point of view of
> contemporary Taiwanese business culture.
>
> May I borrow a copy of this DVD from someone, please?  I'll return it
> before the end of DebConf.

Thanks to Jidanni and Lucas Kanashiro, I now have two copies -- thanks!

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BoF: Issues for Non-Latin Script

2018-08-05 Thread Max Harmathy
Thanks to attendees to the “Issues in the Font Rendering Stack for
Non-Latin Scripts BoF”!

For non-latin script users there are many pitfalls and there is much
work left to do for making their life easier.

pleas  find attached the gobby notes, which are also on gobby.debian.org.

Max
* install gobby
* gobby.debian.org
* debconf18/bof/non-latin-issues

Issues with non-latin script



Font rendering issue(s)
* CJK Han unification

right to left writing
-
Good support in QT and GTK. Not so where they are not used. Specifically: not 
in a terminal.
pipe into bidiv

r2l (bidirectional) - hebrew, arabic, farsi, urdu and others
  Not only R2L - Some glyphs have to modify (ligate with?) the preceding one.

harfbuzz - Can properly render multiple glyphs sorting out fine positioning
between them. Requires the information from the fonts

Rubyscript(?) is an aid to pronunciation that adds aids for pronuntiation.
Furigana(?) in Japanese is fully supported. This seems to be a tension issue
in Taiwan, it's hard to find proper typesetting. Contact should be made for
collaboration! Norbert Preining offers his support. (Zhuyin 注音符號)
Example: W3C Ruby support: http://rocksaying.tw/archives/2912837.html

Question - Is there a standard way to encode Furigana/Rubyscript i.e. to UTF8, 
into a stream of characters?

Linux kernel console
* Useless for CJK, at least
  (Workarounds: CJKTTY patch, fbterm, ... or kmscon -- Linux KMS/DRM based 
virtual Console Emulator? 
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=700210 )

(reports of reproducible-builds issues derived from RTL - don't remember 
exactly what triggered them..?)

Another issue to discuss - Input methods... fcitx (chinese development) has 
excellent support. The mixes between keyboard layouts and input methods leads 
to really confusing situations.


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