Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana]

On 3/20/19 11:56 PM, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote:
> Hi, I sent my opinion to debconf-team list, so I am copying here:
> 
> If there is a demanding for have a DebConf in Europe in 2021, there are
> a lot of support to that, and DebConf committee believes this is better,
> I think it's fair that DebConf committee ask to any countries outside
> Europe make Bids to DebConf21.

... don't make Bids to DebConf21.



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Re: Registration is now open for DebConf19, in Curitiba, Brazil

[Paul Wise]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 9:22 AM Daniel Lenharo wrote:

> We are happy to announce that DebConf19 registration is now open!!

Will you be posting this to d-d-a and debconf-announce too?

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Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana]

Hi, I sent my opinion to debconf-team list, so I am copying here:

If there is a demanding for have a DebConf in Europe in 2021, there are
a lot of support to that, and DebConf committee believes this is better,
I think it's fair that DebConf committee ask to any countries outside
Europe make Bids to DebConf21.

I am sure if this is a good to everyone, we will support. To me, the
worst cenario is leave countries outside Europe make their Bids and in
the end, the decision goes to Europe anyway.

So, in my opinion, DebConf committee should talk with Indian team to
wait 2022.

Best regards,

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Registration is now open for DebConf19, in Curitiba, Brazil

[Daniel Lenharo]

We are happy to announce that DebConf19 registration is now open!!

DebConf19 will take place from July 21st to 28th, 2019 at the Central
campus of Universidade Tecnológica Federal do Paraná - UTFPR, in
Curitiba, Brazil, and will be preceded by DebCamp, from July 14th to
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To register for DebConf19, visit our website at
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To request bursaries (sponsorship) for food, accommodation, or travel,
you must be registered by Monday, 15 April 2019. After this date, new
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Participation to DebConf19 is conditional to your respect of our
Code of Conduct [0]. We require you to read, understand and abide by this
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Even if you are not certain you will be able to attend, we recommend
registering now. You can always edit or cancel your registration, but
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We do suggest that attendees begin making travel arrangements as soon as
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Any questions about registrations should be addressed to
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Travel o Brazil


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Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[Gunnar Wolf]

Wookey dijo [Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 09:44:12PM +]:
> True, and there is clearly a balance to be struck between encouraging
> debian in new areas and optimising travel for existing
> developers. After 5 years when debconf could only be attended with
> intercontinental travel by European developers, I'm very happy with a
> presumption towards Europe next.

Do keep in mind that Israel is as close as Lisbon from Central Europe:
From Vienna, Haifa is 2312Km away, Lisbon is 2298Km. Of course, not
everything is the same; many people from the EU will travel by rail to
countries in the EU (and not because of political affiliations, but
because it's _possible_, while I don't exepct many people to arrive to
Israel if it's not by air). But, for some measures... Well, Israel is
"almost Europe" ☺

> The state of the climate is such that it's increasingly difficult to
> justify 2-4 tonnes of emissions just to visit debconf, so I've
> missed/am missing the last 4. Israel is somewhat closer (0.9 tonne),
> but cannot be reached in a low-carbon way from the UK SFAICT (no
> trains, no ferries), (...)

Right, that's what i'm saying..



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Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Quoting W. Martin Borgert (2019-03-21 00:00:29)
> On 2019-03-20 21:44, Wookey wrote:
> > but cannot be reached in a low-carbon way from the UK SFAICT (no
> > trains, no ferries),
> 
> I plan to go by train and ferry. AFAIK, it's possible to go by
> train to Ancona, Italy, then ferry to Piraeus, Greece, a short
> bus trip to Lavrio, Greece, finally other ferry to Haifa.

I'd be happy to take that journey with you, if you like.

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Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[W. Martin Borgert]

On 2019-03-20 21:44, Wookey wrote:
> but cannot be reached in a low-carbon way from the UK SFAICT (no
> trains, no ferries),

I plan to go by train and ferry. AFAIK, it's possible to go by
train to Ancona, Italy, then ferry to Piraeus, Greece, a short
bus trip to Lavrio, Greece, finally other ferry to Haifa.

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[Louis-Philippe Véronneau]

On 19-03-20 18 h 55, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Wookey (2019-03-20 22:44:12)
>> One thing we could do is take remote attendance more seriously so 
>> there was less need to travel thousands of miles. Conferences need to 
>> go this way, at least until fuel production is decarbonised, unless we 
>> wish to just pretend there is no climate emergency. I'm very happy to 
>> help the debconf organisers with that, as a regular remote conference 
>> attendee user, and some experience of different tech.
>>
>> We were well ahead of the trend in videoing all talks+questions 
>> effectively. I think we should see what we can do to use technology to 
>> make effective remote interaction work. Currently there is too much 
>> lag on outgoing video (~30seconds?) and no incoming video/audio, so 
>> it's pretty-much broadcast-only.
> 
> Well said!
> 
> I offer my assistance as well for looking into this.

I replied to Wookey on the DebConf-Video team list [1], as it's a more
appropriate place to discuss this issue.

Help is warmly welcome!

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debconf-video/2019/03/msg8.html

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Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[Stefano Rivera]

Hi Paulo (2019.03.20_17:42:34_+0200)
> If you use numbers of DDs, we will always have DC in Europe :-)

Well, yes and no. As DebConf is a volunteer organised event, we're at
the mercy of the bids presented. Which means, if people want to have
DebConfs in Europe, they need to organise them :)

There have been times where we've selected non-European bids for variety
(and to reach new communities). But now we're in a time where we simply
don't get many European bids. And the ones that do attempt to bid,
struggle to build a local team.

The main cities, with the biggest concentration of developers seem to
often be too expensive. (Cambridge, UK is a reasonable example there).
And the smaller cities don't manage to raise a big enough local team to
carry the event.

European DebConfs, these days, are probably going to be big. I think
they'll almost certainly need to recruit a local team from across the
region, not just the city it's held in.  Germany was a good example of
that, in the past.

So, if we want to see more DebConfs in Europe, it's going to take some
teams to drive it. Probably from more than 1 city and even 1 country.

SR

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Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Quoting Wookey (2019-03-20 22:44:12)
> One thing we could do is take remote attendance more seriously so 
> there was less need to travel thousands of miles. Conferences need to 
> go this way, at least until fuel production is decarbonised, unless we 
> wish to just pretend there is no climate emergency. I'm very happy to 
> help the debconf organisers with that, as a regular remote conference 
> attendee user, and some experience of different tech.
> 
> We were well ahead of the trend in videoing all talks+questions 
> effectively. I think we should see what we can do to use technology to 
> make effective remote interaction work. Currently there is too much 
> lag on outgoing video (~30seconds?) and no incoming video/audio, so 
> it's pretty-much broadcast-only.

Well said!

I offer my assistance as well for looking into this.


 - Jonas

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Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[Wookey]

On 2019-03-20 12:42 -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote:
> > 
> > But with 9 DDs in India and 500 or so in Europe the location is
> > important. DebConf is not only for outreach. It is primarily the Debian
> > Developers' conference. And yes, we definitely need more DDs from India.
> > And from everywhere else, too.
> 
> If you use numbers of DDs, we will always have DC in Europe :-)

True, and there is clearly a balance to be struck between encouraging
debian in new areas and optimising travel for existing
developers. After 5 years when debconf could only be attended with
intercontinental travel by European developers, I'm very happy with a
presumption towards Europe next.

The state of the climate is such that it's increasingly difficult to
justify 2-4 tonnes of emissions just to visit debconf, so I've
missed/am missing the last 4. Israel is somewhat closer (0.9 tonne),
but cannot be reached in a low-carbon way from the UK SFAICT (no
trains, no ferries), never mind the fact that I'd be very
unconfortable visiting the place because of the oppression, so I guess
that'll make it 5, which is really quite a long time.

One thing we could do is take remote attendance more seriously so
there was less need to travel thousands of miles. Conferences need to
go this way, at least until fuel production is decarbonised, unless we
wish to just pretend there is no climate emergency. I'm very happy to
help the debconf organisers with that, as a regular remote conference
attendee user, and some experience of different tech.

We were well ahead of the trend in videoing all talks+questions
effectively. I think we should see what we can do to use technology to
make effective remote interaction work. Currently there is too much
lag on outgoing video (~30seconds?) and no incoming video/audio, so
it's pretty-much broadcast-only.

> My question is not about DC21 to go or not to go to Europe, but you say
> ***now***  that you would like to have it in Europe.
> Lets wait to see the bids first.

Of course, but a not-europe bid would need to be pretty compelling,
and/or we need to make the remote experience a great deal more useful.

I must admit, I would have been a _lot_ happier if we'd picked
Portugal for 2020, then India in 2021 would not be at all
contentious. Israel is a disappointing plan on more than one level.

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Debconf in Israel is Shameful

[Nasir El-Amin]

As a user of Debian for many years and a Muslim I’m writing to say I’m deeply 
saddened by Debian’s choice to have Debconf in Israel.

Israel is land stolen from Palestinians its a illegitimate nation that has 
built walls with machine gun turrets and oppressive paramilitary groups that 
assault and murder Palestinians and that blockade aid from Palestinians.

Palestinian or Muslim Debian contributors won’t be allowed by Israel to attend 
Debconf.

If this proceeds I will end my use of Debian and Debian derivatives and 
encourage every Muslim Linux user I know to avoid Debian and Debian derivatives.

I also know a lot of DD’s who are concerned about what’s going on and the 
oppression of Palestinians so I’d call on those DD’s to boycott any Debconf in 
Israel by not attending or participating because it’s the right thing to do.

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[Gunnar Wolf]

Rene Engelhard dijo [Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 04:05:35PM +0100]:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:18:44AM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana 
> wrote:
> > I think this part is not fair with countries outside Europe.
> > Yesterday on the #debconf utkarsh2102 said: "India would be bidding for
> > 2021."
> 
> Neither is it desirable for Developers or other attendees to have half a 
> dozen of
> Debconfs not in Europe.
> 
> There once was the (unwritten, happened to just work based in bids)
> "switch continents rule".
>
> DC2: Montreal (Noth America)
> DC3: Norway (Europe)
> DC4: Brazil (South America)
> DC5: Finland (Europe)
> DC6: Mexiko (Middle America)
> DC7: Scotland (Europe)
> DC8: Argentina (South America)
> DC9: Spain (Europe)
> DC10: USA (Noth America)
> DC11: Bosnia & Hercegovina (Europe)
> DC12: Nicaragua (Middle America)
> DC13: Switzerland (Europe)
> DC14: USA (North America)
> DC15: Germany (last one in Europe)
> DC16: South Africa (Africa)
> DC17: Canada (North America)
> DC18: Taiwan (Asia)
> DC19: Brazil (South America)
> DC20: Israel (Asia[1])
> DC21: Lisbon / India / ...

Well, this was not based on hard rules, but on the presented bids. Of
course, the rule influenced bidding teams, and for a long time we had
a seeming equilibrium between America and Europe. Mind you, America is
a bit larger than Europe - The distance between the fathest DebConfs
in Europe (Cáceres and Helsinki) is around 4,000Km; the distance
between Portland and Mar del Plata (farthest DebConfs in America) is
close to 11,000Km. But of course, you know there is much more than
that than only distance...

I agree it's time for DebConf to be in Europe. But one of the main
reasons we haven't been back there is... Prices. It would _for sure_
make sense for DebConf to be closer to (or inside) the region with
greatest DD density, but it's not that we have not had bids there...

> So I completely understand this, it is time for Europe.
> 
> India can try 2022?

I agree that _probably_ it will be this way. But if India prepares a
better bid than wherever-in-Europe... Well, it will probably go to
them.

But yes, basically everybody expects DebConf to be back in Europe
since a long time ago... And I do expect it to carry _some_ weight in
next year's decision.


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Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[rajudev]

Daniel Lange writes:

> Hi,
>
> Am 20.03.19 um 15:18 schrieb Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana:
>> I'd have liked to have seen a public discussion from DebConf Committee
>> how it was on previous years
>
> We discussed that and preferred a non-public meeting.
> There has been a two hour public bid review meeting cf.
> .
>
>>> To make life a bit easier for the many Debian members in Europe, and
>>> those restricted in travel, we would like to have DebConf21 in Europe
>>> again. 
>> 
>> I think this part is not fair with countries outside Europe.
>> Yesterday on the #debconf utkarsh2102 said: "India would be bidding for
>> 2021."
>
> The Indian team did not agree on a city and there was no sufficiently
> completed bid for DC20 so they dropped out early. We're happy to receive
> a competitive bid for DC21.

We are aware of the reasons for dropping out of the bid for 2020,
considering that was an informal bid from our side.

We will make sure to have a competitive bid for DebConf 2021

>
> As with Israel for next year, the bid merits will decide.
>
> But with 9 DDs in India and 500 or so in Europe the location is
> important. DebConf is not only for outreach. It is primarily the Debian
> Developers' conference. And yes, we definitely need more DDs from India.
> And from everywhere else, too.

With this condition, we could never have had a DebConf in Taiwan. But
even with a small team we had an amazing DebConf there.
I guess enough people have already reflected on this thread regarding
this aspect.

Regarding the low numbers of Debian Developers in India. We are
continuously trying to change the situation with respect to that. At this
moment there are two Debian Developer applications currently in process
for DD status( including mine ), that will take the total number of DD's to 11. 
And a few
more people about to apply for DM or DD status in upcoming weeks.

We are also continuously having multiple Debian related events in
different regions of the country, with one of them held just this month
in Delhi. We are into an ongoing effort for having more Debian
Contributors and Developers from India.

>
> Kind regards,
> Daniel

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana]

On 3/20/19 12:27 PM, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
 Hi,

> I'd love to have a DC in Portugal or in any other European country, this
> is not my point. I just think that it doesn't make any sense to suggest
> an European agenda for 2021 at this point, clearly risking to discourage
> other interesting bids.

I totally agree with you.
That's the point.


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Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[Rene Engelhard]

Hi,

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 12:46:18PM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote:
> On 3/20/19 12:05 PM, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > 
> > So I completely understand this, it is time for Europe.
> 
> Are you proposing that, before see any Bid??
> Make no sense to me.

If the Lisbon bid is like this year (from what I see in the wiki) and
it only lost by a small margin, yes, I do.

Are you going to propose another Debconf people from Europe possibly
can't attend? The last one where this is possible being Debconf15?

That would be the seventh debconf in a row not in Europe. Whereas the
American continent ha(d/ve) DC17 and DC19.

As Daniel already wrote: Outreach is not everything, this is a
conference for/with developers, and there are hunndreds of such in
Europe and a few in India.

Regards,

Rene

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana]

Hi,

On 3/20/19 12:05 PM, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> So I completely understand this, it is time for Europe.

Are you proposing that, before see any Bid??
Make no sense to me.

I prefer read all Bids before express my opinion about where should be DC21.

Best regards,

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Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana]

Hi,

On 3/20/19 11:54 AM, Daniel Lange wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We discussed that and preferred a non-public meeting.

Why?

> The Indian team did not agree on a city and there was no sufficiently
> completed bid for DC20 so they dropped out early. We're happy to receive
> a competitive bid for DC21.

Well, you didn't say that before.

> As with Israel for next year, the bid merits will decide.
> 
> But with 9 DDs in India and 500 or so in Europe the location is
> important. DebConf is not only for outreach. It is primarily the Debian
> Developers' conference. And yes, we definitely need more DDs from India.
> And from everywhere else, too.

If you use numbers of DDs, we will always have DC in Europe :-)

My question is not about DC21 to go or not to go to Europe, but you say
***now***  that you would like to have it in Europe.
Lets wait to see the bids first.

Best regards,

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Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[Daniel Lange]

Hi,

Am 20.03.19 um 15:18 schrieb Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana:
> I'd have liked to have seen a public discussion from DebConf Committee
> how it was on previous years

We discussed that and preferred a non-public meeting.
There has been a two hour public bid review meeting cf.
.

>> To make life a bit easier for the many Debian members in Europe, and
>> those restricted in travel, we would like to have DebConf21 in Europe
>> again. 
> 
> I think this part is not fair with countries outside Europe.
> Yesterday on the #debconf utkarsh2102 said: "India would be bidding for
> 2021."

The Indian team did not agree on a city and there was no sufficiently
completed bid for DC20 so they dropped out early. We're happy to receive
a competitive bid for DC21.

As with Israel for next year, the bid merits will decide.

But with 9 DDs in India and 500 or so in Europe the location is
important. DebConf is not only for outreach. It is primarily the Debian
Developers' conference. And yes, we definitely need more DDs from India.
And from everywhere else, too.

Kind regards,
Daniel

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[Julian Andres Klode]

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:18:44AM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 3/20/19 9:52 AM, Daniel Lange wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > So, congratulations, to the Israeli bid team:
> > Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to host the Debian
> > Developer Conference 2020 in Haifa!
> 
> Congratulations to Israel team.
> 
> I'd have liked to have seen a public discussion from DebConf Committee
> how it was on previous years
> 
> > To make life a bit easier for the many Debian members in Europe, and
> > those restricted in travel, we would like to have DebConf21 in Europe
> > again. 
> 
> I think this part is not fair with countries outside Europe.
> Yesterday on the #debconf utkarsh2102 said: "India would be bidding for
> 2021."

It seems fair to me. We had Asia last year, most people are not in Asia,
2020 is in Israel which is basically right between Asia and Africa, so
it only seems fair to go back to where we where the longest time ago.

2015Europe
2016Africa
2017North America
2018Asia
2019South America
2020Israel, somewhere between Europe, Africa

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Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[Rene Engelhard]

Hi,

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:18:44AM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote:
> I think this part is not fair with countries outside Europe.
> Yesterday on the #debconf utkarsh2102 said: "India would be bidding for
> 2021."

Neither is it desirable for Developers or other attendees to have half a dozen 
of
Debconfs not in Europe.

There once was the (unwritten, happened to just work based in bids)
"switch continents rule".

DC2: Montreal (Noth America)
DC3: Norway (Europe)
DC4: Brazil (South America)
DC5: Finland (Europe)
DC6: Mexiko (Middle America)
DC7: Scotland (Europe)
DC8: Argentina (South America)
DC9: Spain (Europe)
DC10: USA (Noth America)
DC11: Bosnia & Hercegovina (Europe)
DC12: Nicaragua (Middle America)
DC13: Switzerland (Europe)
DC14: USA (North America)
DC15: Germany (last one in Europe)
DC16: South Africa (Africa)
DC17: Canada (North America)
DC18: Taiwan (Asia)
DC19: Brazil (South America)
DC20: Israel (Asia[1])
DC21: Lisbon / India / ...

So I completely understand this, it is time for Europe.

India can try 2022?

Regards,

Rene

[1]
For that matter, I personally consider Israel with being nearby
Cyprus to be on-par with Europe, but... - cited (personal) "Political
issues" and (probably) slightly bigger flight prices than for Lisbon
aside.

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

[Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana]

Hi,

On 3/20/19 9:52 AM, Daniel Lange wrote:
> 
> 
> So, congratulations, to the Israeli bid team:
> Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to host the Debian
> Developer Conference 2020 in Haifa!

Congratulations to Israel team.

I'd have liked to have seen a public discussion from DebConf Committee
how it was on previous years

> To make life a bit easier for the many Debian members in Europe, and
> those restricted in travel, we would like to have DebConf21 in Europe
> again. 

I think this part is not fair with countries outside Europe.
Yesterday on the #debconf utkarsh2102 said: "India would be bidding for
2021."

If I am them, after read this part, I gave up now because it seems they
will loose for any European bid.

> We
> hope the Brazilian team, once it has recovered from their DebConf, can
> and will offer support to their language-siblings in Portugal.

Sure. We are available to any help.

Best regards,

-- 
Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls)
Curitiba - Brasil
Debian Developer
Diretor do Instituto para Conservação de Tecnologias Livres
Membro da Comunidade Curitiba Livre
Site: http://www.phls.com.br
GNU/Linux user: 228719  GPG ID: 0443C450

Organizador da DebConf19 - Conferência Mundial de Desenvolvedores(as) Debian
Curitiba - 21 a 28 de julho de 2019
http://debconf19.debconf.org

-- 
Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls)
Curitiba - Brasil
Debian Developer
Diretor do Instituto para Conservação de Tecnologias Livres
Membro da Comunidade Curitiba Livre
Site: http://www.phls.com.br
GNU/Linux user: 228719  GPG ID: 0443C450

Organizador da DebConf19 - Conferência Mundial de Desenvolvedores(as) Debian
Curitiba - 21 a 28 de julho de 2019
http://debconf19.debconf.org



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