Re: Vaccinations

2023-06-16 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana



Em 16/06/2023 10:40, Enrico Zini escreveu:

On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 10:21:30AM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote:

I would imagine that you got shots for some of those, and not for *all*
of those.


Not for HepA, Typhoid fever, Japanese encephalitis and Malaria.

> I assume some may be relevant if one wants to explore the local street
> food scene

Everybody tells me: don't eat local stree food.

Not because the food isn't tasty, but because maybe my body can't deal 
every well with them. So, I will prefer to avoid local stree food.


Best regards,

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Re: Vaccinations

2023-06-16 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Enrico Zini dijo [Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 01:31:31PM +0200]:
> Ok, I edited the wiki page with the information that I have, and the
> result definitely needs editing. Too many things are listed that are
> likely not relevant for the conference, and the list as it is would only
> cause unneeded alarm.
> 
> I neither have the local information nor the medial expertise needed to
> judge which of those can be taken out and in what conditions.

Hi,

I can only provide anecdotal evidence, and for that matter, anecdotal
evidence of a different time of the year. But still, it's the
anecdotal evidence of a tourist that spent a week in South India this
year.

In late January, Tzafrir, Nattie and I went to India. We attended a
miniDebConf in a small city in Tamil Nadu (state bordering Kerala to
the East) and did a pre-conference visit in Kochi.

We didn't strictly eat "street food", but we ate at the small
university cafeteria at miniDebConf, had lunch at a couple of smaller
roadside restaurants, and were pampered with tourist-level places in
Kochi (but still kept eating deliciously while there!)

As far as I can tell, neither of us had preparative vaccinations of
any kind. We all came back to our countries with no ill stomachs or
otherwise sick.

Mosquitos? Yes, there are many many. Many people will get concerned
when they find out that many (most? all?) streetwalks are planks of
cement that cover a sewage canal; mosquitos are quite abundant (and we
were there in the dry season!), and staying long in the street
guarantees you will get some bites in the legs; most of those
mosquitos don't fly high (my arms were not as inviting to the buggers,
at least, and when we weren't in the streets, I didn't feel them). I
mention the mosquitos because of the many well-known mosquito-borne
diseases.

Should you vaccinate? Not for me to tell. I can only tell you my
experience was quite good, health-wise. And no, it's not because
January is very cold --- Kochi is 9°N only, so the temperature
variation between seasons is basically nonexistent¹, although the rain
patterns do differ a lot.

Please enjoy DebConf in India for me!

¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kochi#Climate


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Re: Vaccinations

2023-06-16 Thread Enrico Zini
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 10:21:30AM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote:

> > * Diphtheria, HepA, HepB, Typhoid fever, Tuberculosis, Polio, Tetanus.
> >Many of these are standard coverage, or standard coverage when
> >traveling
> > 
> > * During monsoon and post-monsoon times (may to september), increased
> >risks of Meningitis, Japanese encephalitis, and Malaria
> 
> Here in Brazil we take the first shots of them during the childhood and
> booster shots after 40 years.
> 
> I'm not sure how it works in Italy. Don't you have?

I would imagine that you got shots for some of those, and not for *all*
of those.

The standard childhood package in Italy in my generation had Diphtheria,
Polio and Tetanus, and later generations may have had more comprehensive
firmware updates. By personal intiative some more things from the list
above over the years.

I currently have no coverage for Typhoid fever and Tuberculosis, and I'm
thinking that while I try to understand if they're a good idea or not
for DebConf, I might as well go and get them.

Meningitis and Japanese encephalitis I also do not have, and they're
trickier to get, so I'd like to understand how important they are.

Vaccines for malaria are still under development, and I understand
malaria chemoprophylaxis is rather heavy, so I'd avoid it if it's not
needed.


Enrico

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Re: Vaccinations

2023-06-16 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana

Hi,

Em 15/06/2023 07:15, Enrico Zini escreveu:

Hello,

I'm trying to work out in due time what vaccinations I might need for
better enjoyment of my time in Kochi.

The official Italian travel guidelines[1] have several recommendations.
Summarizing and translating:

* Diphtheria, HepA, HepB, Typhoid fever, Tuberculosis, Polio, Tetanus.
   Many of these are standard coverage, or standard coverage when
   traveling

* During monsoon and post-monsoon times (may to september), increased
   risks of Meningitis, Japanese encephalitis, and Malaria


Here in Brazil we take the first shots of them during the childhood and 
booster shots after 40 years.


I'm not sure how it works in Italy. Don't you have?

Best regards,

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Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls)
Belo Horizonte - Brasil
Debian Developer
Site: http://phls.com.br
GPG ID: 0443C450


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Re: Vaccinations

2023-06-16 Thread Enrico Zini
On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 06:25:05PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:

> > What would be reasonable recommendations for a stress-free stay at the
> conference and conference-organised local trips?
> 
> Some of those are covered in https://wiki.debian.org/DebConf/23/Faq

Ok, I edited the wiki page with the information that I have, and the
result definitely needs editing. Too many things are listed that are
likely not relevant for the conference, and the list as it is would only
cause unneeded alarm.

I neither have the local information nor the medial expertise needed to
judge which of those can be taken out and in what conditions.

I assume some may be relevant if one wants to explore the local street
food scene, and some may be relevant if one wants to explore the
countryside (what about the day trip options?). Some may be relevant for
some parts of India but not Kerala, or for some parts of Kerala, but not
Kochi.

This is the kind of thing it pays to know early, as it may take time to
arrange the right schedule of shots with one's local health care, if
needed.


Enrico

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