Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

[Jonathan Carter]

On 2023/11/02 11:04, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:

Perhaps Debconf is better as a
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconference  >?


As far as Unconferences go, DebConf is already an Unconference (many 
events that call themselves "Unconferences" are already way more formal 
than DebConf... I guess that term has become as useless as "Agile" to 
describe something already).


-Jonathan

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

[Jonathan Carter]

Hey Tiago

On 2023/10/31 13:43, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:

That said, I'd strongly support your remote help for DC24, or a nomination
to DC committee, or  who knows, a DPL run :-)


Your nomination to the DC committee is too late!

Sruthi is already a member of the DebConf committee :-)

https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/09/msg1.html

-Jonathan

Re: Debconf23 Git LFS share is full of photos!

[Jonathan Carter]

On 2023/10/02 11:10, Aigars Mahinovs wrote:

https://salsa.debian.org/debconf-team/public/share/debconf23/-/tree/main/photos 


Read the instruction in the README to avoid downloading *all* the files 
immediately at checkout.


If you don't need gigabytes of high quality versions of these photos, 
you can also browse these photos here:


https://people.debian.org/~stefanor/dc23-photos/

-Jonathan

Re: DebConf23 Daily Announcement mail - 6th September 2023

[Jonathan Carter]

On 2023/09/07 01:15, Evangelos Ribeiro Tzaras wrote:
So ... how are we supposed to stay hydrated outside the opening hours? 
Asking for a friend.


Tell your friend that alcohol is a diuretic and will cause you to have a 
net loss on moisture, so alcoholic beverages aren't at all conducive to 
keeping yourself hydrated.


However, if your friend needs to maintain some blood-alcohol balance, 
I've been told by the debconf team that it's possible to buy additional 
drinks from the hotel bar to consume later on when their closed.


-Jonathan

Time again for loopy submissions!

[Jonathan Carter]

Hello everyone

As has now become yet another DebConf tradition, we're now accepting 
submissions for Loopy, the conference loop that is shown on the stream 
in between talks!


You can submit either a short video clip, or an image (almost like a 
postcard!). Neither have to be very fancy, you can take a picture on 
your phone and add some text, or draw something. If you record either a 
video or picture, please do it on landscape mode (turn your phone sideways).


We'll soon be receiving a few dozen of these very stylish and desirable 
Cheese & Wine bags that will soon be the envy of all the influencers on 
social media :p https://i.imgur.com/MyZd1ht.jpg


If you're onsite and submit a loopy clip, we'll give you one of these as 
long as we still have them available. If you're off-site, we'll make 
some more in the future and owe you one, and after all, isn't the 
feeling of being part of our community and letting everyone know you're 
thinking of them reward enough? :)


Oh yes, to submit your clip: record it, upload it to your favourite 
site, and share the link to your clip by e-mailing: lo...@debconf.org


Try to keep it clean of additional music and if you speak, it should be 
reasonably audible what you're saying (we can make some minor edits and 
improvements on our side).


Here's an example of what loopy looked like for DebConf21:
https://peertube.debian.social/w/aEjdorA9M71tvm558YxyAP

The DC23 loopy should be going live in the next 2 days or so, I'll share 
a link as soon as it's more or less ready!


-Jonathan

Re: DebConf23 Daily Announcement addendum mail - 3rd September 2023

[Jonathan Carter]

On 2023/09/05 11:22, Evangelos Ribeiro Tzaras wrote:
Of course I did mention that I am fully vacccinated (and have also 
stated so during my registration). Further, there are antigen tests 
available at FrontDesk™ and I believe it is recommended (or maybe even 
required - I would definititely applaud this) to take it upon 
arrival/registration.


If someone shows any symptoms whatsoever, please do the right thing and 
take a test, it only takes a few minutes! There are enough test kits 
available.


-Jonathan

Re: Any demonstration for "Global fight to end fossil fuels" in Kochi at 2023-09-15

[Jonathan Carter]

On 2023/08/29 11:38, Andreas Tille wrote:

usually I joing demonstrations like this

 https://fightfossilfuels.net/

in my home town - but at this day I'm not at home. ;-)

Is there any action planed in Kochi ... and if not would someone join me
to spread the word in Kochi?


Sounds fun! The DC schedule isn't out yet, so I can't yet check, but if 
the schedule allows I'll join you.


-Jonathan

Re: e-Conference visa information

[Jonathan Carter]

On 2023/08/24 15:25, Stefano Rivera wrote:
I named DebConf as the tour operator, and give infopark's address. The 
visa was approved, so shrug :)


I said that it wasn't operated by a tour operator, and mine also got 
approved the next day, so I suppose they consider that a very minor detail.


-Jonathan

Re: Decision making in Debian

[Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)]

Hi Marc

On 2022/07/14 12:00, Marc Haber wrote:

On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 11:55:20AM +0200, Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) wrote:

On the debian.net domain, volunteers in the project can host services not
run by our official system administrators. One such site is
https://surveys.debian.net/ - which can be used if someone wants more
feedback in order to make a decision that doesn't need an official
project-wide vote (or where we wouldn't require membership for a vote). An
example of this is the artwork selection for each release


There is never a day without learning. I have been a DD for more than 20
years now, and I didn't know that surveys.debian.net is being used to
decide on the artwork. Does the service have a possibility to send me
e-mail when a new survey becomes available? I tend not to look a
"random" pages regularly just to see whether there is somehing relevant
for me.


All DD's should really be subscribed to debian-devel-announce, where the 
call for artwork votes are usually announced, like:


https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2020/10/msg6.html

Also, if you enjoy learning things, there's #debian-til on IRC where 
people can share snippets of things that they have learned in Debian 
(especially the kind of things where we feel like we should've known it 
before and for some reason didn't).


-Jonathan

Re: Decision making in Debian

[Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)]

Hi Dashamir

On 2022/07/14 10:07, Dashamir Hoxha wrote:
I am not sure how democratic decision making is made in Debian, but I 
guess it is done through mailing lists, which in my opinion are not the 
best tool for this purpose.


We don't have any form of decision making process on mailing lists. As 
others have mentioned, when we make a project-wide vote (like DPL 
elections or a GR), then that's co-ordinated by the project secretary.


More information on https://vote.debian.org and in our constitution at 
https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution


I'd be interested in discussing about what can be done to improve this 
process.


Step one is really understanding the current decision making processes, 
its constraints, requirements, etc before suggesting enhancements. If 
you're starting on the basis of a guess that it's made on mailing lists, 
then that's not a great start.


Maybe we can give a try to LiquidFeedback 
(https://liquidfeedback.com/en/ ).


At least it's free software, it looks like it could be nice.

On the debian.net domain, volunteers in the project can host services 
not run by our official system administrators. One such site is 
https://surveys.debian.net/ - which can be used if someone wants more 
feedback in order to make a decision that doesn't need an official 
project-wide vote (or where we wouldn't require membership for a vote). 
An example of this is the artwork selection for each release (PSA: No 
one has stepped up to take care of this yet for bullseye, see: 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-desktop/2022/04/msg0.html).


However, it is somewhat cumbersome to set up, and even when it is, it 
has some UX issues that we struggled with, its reports are also quite 
complicated. So, having more methods to gather feedback would certainly 
already be valuable.


Can we arrange a meeting to discuss about it? I'll be at the DebConf up 
to 24.


Yep, and if you'd like to set up an instance for Debian, even as an 
experiment or proof-of-concept, you can get a subdomain by following 
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDotNet (you'll need a DD to help you) and 
a VM for it by following the instructions at: 
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDotNet


-Jonathan

Re: Send your clip for the DebConf22 Stream Loop

[Jonathan Carter]

Just a reminder, that deadline for submissions is 3 days from now.

-Jonathan

On 2022/06/20 19:45, Jonathan Carter wrote:

Hello Debianites

During DebConf20, we started spicing up the sponsors loop (the video 
shown in between talks at DebConf) by adding some background music, some 
useful information (like the schedule and announcements), and... some 
clips contributed by our lovely DebConf attendees!


Here are some examples of what that looks like from DC20 and DC21:
https://peertube.debian.social/w/9dXYv98pfg4AzuVVDMz8YT
https://peertube.debian.social/w/aEjdorA9M71tvm558YxyAP

DebConf22 will be in person, but, we're continuing this new tradition. 
You can send either a video or photo (which we use like a postcard on 
the stream).


If you'd like to submit a clip:

1. Record a short piece of wisdom, updates from your side, a demo piece 
(or whatever your artistic side can muster up), ideally 20-30s long (can 
be shorter or longer if needed) and if you use your phone, record in 
landscape, not portrait. Please make sure you're audible, otherwise it 
makes it hard to follow on the stream (we can only do so much with 
post-processing).


2. Ideally, don't add any further background music, then upload it to 
wherever you like uploading your videos to.


3. Send the link to the video to lo...@debconf.org ***BEFORE 
2022-07-07***. With the online DebConfs, it was easier to edit videos 
during the DebConf, we suspect that this won't be as easy during 
DebConf, so, if you send a submission after that date, don't count on it 
being in the loop.


For photos / pictures / postcards, add some text to explain some context 
or who the picture is from (otherwise include that information in the 
email and we'll add it).


Have fun!

-Jonathan

Send your clip for the DebConf22 Stream Loop

[Jonathan Carter]

Hello Debianites

During DebConf20, we started spicing up the sponsors loop (the video 
shown in between talks at DebConf) by adding some background music, some 
useful information (like the schedule and announcements), and... some 
clips contributed by our lovely DebConf attendees!


Here are some examples of what that looks like from DC20 and DC21:
https://peertube.debian.social/w/9dXYv98pfg4AzuVVDMz8YT
https://peertube.debian.social/w/aEjdorA9M71tvm558YxyAP

DebConf22 will be in person, but, we're continuing this new tradition. 
You can send either a video or photo (which we use like a postcard on 
the stream).


If you'd like to submit a clip:

1. Record a short piece of wisdom, updates from your side, a demo piece 
(or whatever your artistic side can muster up), ideally 20-30s long (can 
be shorter or longer if needed) and if you use your phone, record in 
landscape, not portrait. Please make sure you're audible, otherwise it 
makes it hard to follow on the stream (we can only do so much with 
post-processing).


2. Ideally, don't add any further background music, then upload it to 
wherever you like uploading your videos to.


3. Send the link to the video to lo...@debconf.org ***BEFORE 
2022-07-07***. With the online DebConfs, it was easier to edit videos 
during the DebConf, we suspect that this won't be as easy during 
DebConf, so, if you send a submission after that date, don't count on it 
being in the loop.


For photos / pictures / postcards, add some text to explain some context 
or who the picture is from (otherwise include that information in the 
email and we'll add it).


Have fun!

-Jonathan

Re: Will pre-recorded only talk be accepted for DebConf22?

[Jonathan Carter]

Hey Kentaro

On 2022/03/28 16:40, Kentaro Hayashi wrote:

https://lists.debian.org/debconf-discuss/2022/03/msg00022.html
The important point of the above idea is just collecting talks and archiving it.

Yes, it is an important Q session with a remote presenter, but it
doesn't focus on it.

Anyway, it seems that it is hard to do such a thing at this time.
Thank you for thinking about it.


Another alternative is to insert it in the video loop and play it at 
some time before talks start (and perhaps again 12 hours later). This 
might also make things a bit more interesting for others attending 
remotely. There won't be a live/questions component to it, but if you're 
around you could still interact via IRC.


It's not something we've done before with an in-person DebConf, but it 
might be a way to get some shorter talks streamed during the DebConf event.


-Jonathan

Re: Submit your content for the DebConf21 stream loop!

[Jonathan Carter]

(sorry, pasting from a pad along with some thunderbird weirdness really 
messed with the newlines, hopefully this version reads better)


Hi Debianites

Since DebConf20, we've spiced up our loop with some additional 
contributed content. While our sponsor logos are beautiful and we could 
stare at them for hours, the additional content has certainly helped to 
add a personal touch in between DebConf talks and events.


This year we're doing so again, and now is the time to start submitting 
your content for the loop!


Content can take various forms:

1. Shout-outs:

These are short videos (typically between 10 and 30 seconds) where you 
record a message for the community. It doesn't have to be an elaborate 
production; something simple recorded with your webcam or phone is just 
fine. Just please make sure that the audio is audible - if you're 
recording from the other side of the room, the audio may be too soft and 
people watching the stream may not be able to hear you properly.


2. Postcards:

Maybe you're shy, busy or don't have access to any webcam or video 
recording device. No worries, you can also submit a postcard. Take a 
selfie or a picture of your town or members of your local group and send 
it along and we'll display it on the stream for 20 seconds at random 
intervals. Be sure to include any information that you'd like on there, 
like who the postcard is from, etc.


You're also welcome to send any other kind of submissions and we'll try 
to make it fit. Perhaps you'd like to contribute to the #newinbullseye 
hashtag with a tip or trick or something new that's in the brand new 
Debian 11 release (which should be released just before DebConf if 
everything goes well) or want to share some general news.


Need to knows:

 * Whether submitting your creative genius in photo or video form, 
please use landscape mode (flat), not portrait (upright). We'll be 
streaming the content at 1280x720, but if you don't understand that, 
don't worry, we can adapt your submissions to fit the stream.


 * Upload your content to your favourite file, picture hosting service 
or personal web server, and then send a link to lo...@debconf.org to 
submit your contribution.


 * Please try to submit your content before DebConf starts. We will be 
able to accept submissions during DebConf too (which is especially fun 
if you want to make replies and participate in DebConf memes during 
DebConf), but we'll likely not be able to accept any content after 12:00 
UTC on Friday the 27th in order to allow us to start preparing for the 
closing session.


If you have any further questions, feel free to pop a question to 
lo...@debconf.org


Enjoy DebConf21!

 - Team Loopy

On 2021/08/13 13:32, Jonathan Carter wrote:

Hi Debianites
Since DebConf20, we've spiced up our loop with some additional 
contributed content. While our sponsor logos are beautiful and we could 
stare at them for hours, the additional content has certainly helped to 
add a personal touch in between DebConf talks and events.
This year we're doing so again, and now is the time to start submitting 
your content for the loop!

Content can take various forms:
1. Shout-outs:
These are short videos (typically between 10 and 30 seconds) where you 
record a message for the community. It doesn't have to be an elaborate 
production; something simple recorded with your webcam or phone is just 
fine. Just please make sure that the audio is audible - if you're 
recording from the other side of the room, the audio may be too soft and 
people watching the stream may not be able to hear you properly.

2. Postcards:
Maybe you're shy, busy or don't have access to any webcam or video 
recording device. No worries, you can also submit a postcard. Take a 
selfie or a picture of your town or members of your local group and send 
it along and we'll display it on the stream for 20 seconds at random 
intervals. Be sure to include any information that you'd like on there, 
like who the postcard is from, etc.
You're also welcome to send any other kind of submissions and we'll try 
to make it fit. Perhaps you'd like to contribute to the #newinbullseye 
hashtag with a tip or trick or something new that's in the brand new 
Debian 11 release (which should be released just before DebConf if 
everything goes well) or want to share some general news.

Need to knows:
  * Whether submitting your creative genius in photo or video form, 
please use landscape mode (flat), not portrait (upright). We'll be 
streaming the content at 1280x720, but if you don't understand that, 
don't worry, we can adapt your submissions to fit the stream.
  * Upload your content to your favourite file, picture hosting service 
or personal web server, and then send a link to lo...@debconf.org to 
submit your contribution.
  * Please try to submit your content before DebConf starts. We will be 
able to accept submissions during DebConf too (which is especially fun 
if you want to make replies and participate

Submit your content for the DebConf21 stream loop!

[Jonathan Carter]

Hi Debianites
Since DebConf20, we've spiced up our loop with some additional 
contributed content. While our sponsor logos are beautiful and we could 
stare at them for hours, the additional content has certainly helped to 
add a personal touch in between DebConf talks and events.
This year we're doing so again, and now is the time to start submitting 
your content for the loop!

Content can take various forms:
1. Shout-outs:
These are short videos (typically between 10 and 30 seconds) where you 
record a message for the community. It doesn't have to be an elaborate 
production; something simple recorded with your webcam or phone is just 
fine. Just please make sure that the audio is audible - if you're 
recording from the other side of the room, the audio may be too soft and 
people watching the stream may not be able to hear you properly.

2. Postcards:
Maybe you're shy, busy or don't have access to any webcam or video 
recording device. No worries, you can also submit a postcard. Take a 
selfie or a picture of your town or members of your local group and send 
it along and we'll display it on the stream for 20 seconds at random 
intervals. Be sure to include any information that you'd like on there, 
like who the postcard is from, etc.
You're also welcome to send any other kind of submissions and we'll try 
to make it fit. Perhaps you'd like to contribute to the #newinbullseye 
hashtag with a tip or trick or something new that's in the brand new 
Debian 11 release (which should be released just before DebConf if 
everything goes well) or want to share some general news.

Need to knows:
 * Whether submitting your creative genius in photo or video form, 
please use landscape mode (flat), not portrait (upright). We'll be 
streaming the content at 1280x720, but if you don't understand that, 
don't worry, we can adapt your submissions to fit the stream.
 * Upload your content to your favourite file, picture hosting service 
or personal web server, and then send a link to lo...@debconf.org to 
submit your contribution.
 * Please try to submit your content before DebConf starts. We will be 
able to accept submissions during DebConf too (which is especially fun 
if you want to make replies and participate in DebConf memes during 
DebConf), but we'll likely not be able to accept any content after 12:00 
UTC on Friday the 27th in order to allow us to start preparing for the 
closing session.
If you have any further questions, feel free to pop a question to 
lo...@debconf.org

 Enjoy DebConf21!
 -Team Loopy

MiniDebConf Online - Gaming Editiion: Lightning talks, shoutouts, tiny talks and MiniDebCamp

[Jonathan Carter]

Dear everybody

The next online MiniDebConf[1] is creeping ever closer and the orga team
is eagerly getting everything in place.

Here's some more information leading up to the event...

== Lightning talks ==

Here’s your chance to talk very briefly on a subject related to games on
Linux.  Talks can be up to 5 minutes in length, and can be submitted
prerecorded (preferred) or done live if necessary.  Please contact Team
Lightning on islightningr...@debconf.org to register your interest.

== Loopy Loop ==

Yep, our video loop introduced at DC20 is back.

There are two types of submissions you can make for the loopy loop:

1. Shout-outs

Send a short message to the community in the loop between talks. Ideally
it should not be much more than 30s long. It doesn't have to be a whole
production, a short clip recorded on your webcam or phone is fine
(although please use landscape mode if using your phone though).

2. Tiny talks

Tiny talks are even faster than lightning talks! These are between 30s
and 90s (one and a half minute) long. Submit a tiny talk to make some
announcements or updates for your project in Debian, or do a quick demo
of a piece of software that you find interesting.

To submit a shout-out or tiny talk for the loop, upload your clip
somewhere and send the link to lo...@debconf.org

Submissions for both close on 12:00 UTC on Saturday, 21 November.

== MiniDebCamp ==

Thursday and Friday (19-20 November) we'll have some time for informal
events, which could be ad-hoc talks, playing some network games, doing
some bug squashing or even packaging mentoring/tutorials depending on
demand.

Join us on #minidebconf-online on the oftc network, we'll share jitsi
and other links there, we'll also add some more information on the wiki
page[2] for MiniDebCamp as it becomes available.

- MiniDebConf Online Team

[1] https://mdco2.mini.debconf.org/
[2]
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/internet/2020/MiniDebConfOnline2/DebCamp



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Re: Announcing the elephant in the room BOF

[Jonathan Carter]

On 2019/08/02 16:36, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> On a more personal level, I don't think having that talk recorded and
> streamed would have been a great idea. As I'm sure we all know by now,
> this issue is sensible and I'm sure a bunch of people wouldn't have felt
> free to talk if this had been videoed.

I think you meant s/sensible/sensitive/g

-Jonathan

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Re: Announcing the elephant in the room BOF

[Jonathan Carter]

Hey Steve

On 2019/08/01 04:38, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 02:04:22PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
>> I feel like I ought to step forward and take some of the blame/credit
>> for pushing for the Elephant in the Room BOF to be widely announced.
>> I did not ask for this BOF, but once I became aware that it was going to
>> happen I took a strong position that it should be widely announced.
>>
>> My position when talking to the organizers and DC committee is that if
>> we were going to have the discussion it should be widely announced.

> 
> I'm curious - who exactly were the stakeholders here? I've heard
> rumours about a "Boycott Debian" group, and found their website where
> nobody claims to be a member. Were we just trying to appease this
> anonymous set of people for some reason?

The day before the session, I emerged from having the Debbug and was
still busy finding my feet but there were a bunch of distinct groups who
had conversations about this during that day that I tried to follow.
Some of this branched off and since I couldn't be everywhere I couldn't
follow all of them.

After lunch time, a group of people were talking about scheduling a
session about this "elephant in the room" that we haven't talked about
yet. That is, the problems associated with having a DebConf in Israel. I
learned that some of the people in that particular conversation had just
learned about the "boycott Debian" campaign, although I've been familiar
with it for a bit before DebConf but since it seems (at least from the
research I've done on it so far) to be one person who's basically
driving it with a few scattered supporters so I haven't paid much
attention to it, also because I don't think Debian should be boycotted
(although, one person who's been in touch with that group told me that
they are considering changing the name to something else, but I digress).

So the idea was to have a session where people could air out their
viewpoints and have some frank discussion about it. I didn't have much
hope for the session to be very productive, mostly because it's
impossible to have a good discussion in 45 minutes even if it was just a
handful of people. I didn't do a headcount but I think there were more
than 20 people in that room? During the session most people who got to
talk (which wasn't even everyone in the room), only got one chance to
speak. I think it turned out better than I originally had expected but
some people said that they didn't feel like they were heard out.

Sorry, I already drifted off again.

In terms of planning the session, the day before after lunch time, the
group I stumbled in to was already talking about planning a session.
They decided to go ahead with it whether they would be allotted an
ad-hoc slot or not. I could understand some push-back from the content
team because it was a last-minute request for the last day where there
isn't much leeway to move things around at all. It came down to
scheduling the session before lunch or after lunch. The only time that
ended up vaguely working ended up being before lunch and since I felt I
needed to be there as a member of the DebConf committee, I had to cancel
the session that I was planning to lead during the same time. In
hindsight I'm still not sure if that was the best of ideas, I received
some pushback for it, but I think I would've regretted not attending the
elephant-in-the-room session, I think I would always prioritise the
place where people are airing concerns that I'm at least partially
responsible for above others.

So the talk slot info got populated and added by someone in the content
team and it was requested by a whole bunch of people that this schedule
change be announced in the DebConf announcements. In another discussion
with an entirely different group of people, it came up whether the
announcement should even be sent. One person from the DebConf committee
was 100% against this announcement being sent, so I thought it best to
put it off for a few hours. Later after some more discussion at the
hotel another was for it and another seemed undecided (there were 3 DCC
members present at DebConf). So far we've announced everything that
people have submitted to announcements (often verbatim, including
spelling and grammar mistakes), so I wasn't willing to block the
announcement unless there was either some sort of DCC consensus,
override by DPL, good reason from the local team or good reason from the
DC20 team or any particular steakholder that could provide a good
objection (yeah, I'm the one with the send button so in a pinch I have
to come up with some good framework that I feel I can defend
afterwards). At that point, the DPL told me that as DPL, he's asking me
to send it. It wasn't an override of a delegation (since the delegation
hadn't come to any conclusion) and I also specifically checked with the
DPL whether that was the case, at which point he confirmed that it was
just a request form the DPL and not an override. 

Re: Retiring from DebConf organisation

[Jonathan Carter]

Hey Laura

On 2019/07/28 16:59, Laura Arjona Reina wrote:
> This is the 5th year in a row that I'm contributing to DebConf
> organisation (mostly in the publicity part, but also some part in
> bursaries, and other small things). It's been mostly a pleasure and
> always a honour, I've learnt a lot ant I'd like to thank everybody.

Thank you so much for all the contributions. Your coverage of the events
at DebConf has been excellent and helpful to so many people. I hope that
someone can pick it up and continue the work with the high standards
that you have established.

-Jonathan

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  ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁  Debian Developer - https://wiki.debian.org/highvoltage
  ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋   https://debian.org | https://jonathancarter.org
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Re: moar stickers

[Jonathan Carter]

On 2019/07/23 16:06, Holger Levsen wrote:
> - free software, fuck yeah!

Thank you, this is a great sticker!

-Jonathan

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Re: Traveling from Airport to the venue

[Jonathan Carter]

On 2019/07/14 04:47, "Yao Wei (魏銘廷)" wrote:
> I used AndOsm on the bus to ensure I didn't miss the stop.  Their first
> stop (train station) is actually walkable to the venue.  The bus
> detoured to another hotel nearby.  I got off at the last stop (Shopping
> Estaçáo before heading off to the airport) but I found the bus took too
> much time driving around the city center.

FWIW, the taxis outside the airport are quite cheap, we were 5 who split
two taxis and paid R$50 per taxi so that turned out R$20 per person,
which is great since it's fast and gets you to the hotel door without
having to put more thought into when you potentially haven't slept in a
long long time.

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Re: IMPORTANT: Personal Information related

[Jonathan Carter]

On 2019/07/11 00:41, Christoph Biedl wrote:
> This reminds me a related issue: I fail to see why certain pages like
> the travel coordination and the day trip planning have to be world-
> readable. Not everybody is happy to see their DebConf attendance in the
> public, this has been mentioned before. Also, the risk data as above
> gets abused is way smaller then.
> 
> Although it's probably too late for this year - could you please
> implement a mechanism these pages are visible to attendees only, and
> perhaps other groups like all DDs?

That doesn't sound like something that should be too difficult to write
for Wafer (Django app that runs the DC19 website) since most of that
information is already in the database. I guess you'd just need another
field for flights and perhaps some comment field might be useful.

-Jonathan

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Re: Last call for Cheese and wine party! Join us

[Jonathan Carter]

On 2019/07/09 20:28, Hugo Thebas wrote:
> I tried to edit wiki page and write what I'll get to the party, but I do
> not have an account and I was unable to create one.
> 
> I still want to come to the party and bring something What should I do?

There's still time to fix your account before the cheese and wine party,
and besides, being able to edit the wiki will be important as a DebConf
attendee and as a Debian contributor, probably a good idea to get that
sorted out.

The wiki quickstart page says that spam filters might block you from
creating an account, but that you'll see further instructions in the
error on what to do in such a situation, see:
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/EditorQuickStart#Creating_an_Account

-Jonathan

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Re: more diverse shirt stuff :)

[Jonathan Carter]

On 2019/07/02 14:25, Ian Jackson wrote:
>>  You can add your names and shirt sizes (and potential, amount) to this
>> wiki page: https://wiki.debian.org/DebConf/19/DiversityShirts
> Thanks.  Can you clarify (ideally on the page itself) whether these
> are European or North American sizes ?  IME a European L is roughly a
> USAian M.
> 
> (I had a quick look on Wikipedia but the information there does not
> seem to relate to my experience at all.)

That page links to https://debconf19.debconf.org/about/t-shirts/ which
indicates that it's Brazilian sizes along with measurements. It's
probably best to take some measurements and work from that.

-Jonathan

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Re: Tips/warnings/suggestion for newcomers at DebConf19

[Jonathan Carter]

On 2019/05/30 16:26, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> highvoltage presents™... 10 Tips for a great DebConf...

I forgot to mention...

Be sure to enter your travel dates on:
https://wiki.debian.org/DebConf/19/TravelCoordination - it's nice to
know who arrives / leaves about the same time as you do, and for many
reasons it's often better to travel together.

-Jonathan

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Re: Tips/warnings/suggestion for newcomers at DebConf19

[Jonathan Carter]

for future DebConfs, so try
to be specific about what you liked or didn't like about the DebConf.
Having been involved for a few years now I like to think that we've
improved in a few areas and hopefully that could be sustained.

5 bonus tips:

 - Noise canceling headphones work great for reducing fatigue
   while flying
 - Take it easy on the alcohol, and when you do consume,
   drink some water in between, it will help prevent dehydration
 - It will be winter, consider getting a flu vaccination at least
   two weeks before you go
 - If you can afford it, get a local sim with data, it's usually
   worth every cent
 - Keep funds available on your credit card when traveling,
   it can help get you out of all sorts of trouble when traveling
   in a foreign country. If you don't have much spare cash, don't
   let yourself be tempted to spend the little you have on things
   that you don't need, they will only buy temporary happiness anyway.

-Jonathan

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Re: The tone of discussion on this list

[Jonathan Carter]

Hi

On 2019/05/13 18:20, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Alexander Wirt writes ("Re: The tone of discussion on this list"):
>> I did not wanted to say its antisemetic, I wanted to say that we
>> don't want to see either antisemetic _or_ antiisrelism. In my
>> experience most discussions starting with antiisrealiasm will end
>> with being antisemetic.
> 
> I strongly disagree with the decision to ban "anti-israelism", ie,
> criticism of Israel.  The choice of Israel as a venue for Debconf
> means that the question of the ethics or otherwise of visiting Israel
> has been made on topic for this list.
> 
> On the other hand, I strongly approve of firm and swift action against
> antisemitism.

The above is a response to a mail from more than a month and a half ago,
I invite everyone to not add more fuel to the flames and let it be.

-Jonathan

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Re: Security/crime in Curitiba/Brazil

[Jonathan Carter]

Hi Ondrej

On 2019/05/07 16:36, Ondrej Novy wrote:
> DebConf 17, Canada, rank 6
> DebConf 18, Taiwan, rank 34
> DebConf 19, Brazil, rank 106 
> DebConf 20, Israel, rank 146

Coming from a country that ranks 125 (too bad DC16 didn't fit in the
pattern above) and having traveled in just about 20 different countries,
I would say:

 * Blend in and don't look too much like a tourist, this includes
   things like:
   - Don't wear a giant camera around your neck all the time
   - Don't have a wallet hanging half-way out of your pocket
 stuffed with money (you think this would be obvious, but
 I've seen lots of this in Paris in an area which is known
 for pick-pockets)
   - Wear casual clothes, it will be a mild winter, pack some clothes
 with long sleeves

 * Take care of your stuff
   - If you have an older laptop that you can get by with, it might be
 better to travel with that
   - Never leave your things unattended, if you need to leave a room,
 ask someone to keep an eye on it for you, if there is no one there,
 rather pack up and take your stuff with you.

Some slightly less obvious stuff but very important:

 * Make some preperations
   - When traveling locally, be more or less sure where you want to go
 to. Even if you have a local sim, network coverage might be spotty,
 download off-line maps so that you can always figure out which way
 'back home' is. Store the location of your accomodation on your
  phone.
   - If you can, get a local sim, imho it's nearly always worth every
 cent if your home sim doesn't let you roam (or is really expensive)
   - Install Uber. You might not like them, there's probably many good
 reasons for that, but being able to press a button on your phone
 and a car will show up in ~2 minutes is a great safety net that
 can be useful for a wide array of emergencies.

 * Even when you play it safe, be prepared for minor bad things:
   - Don't carry all your cards with you, if your wallet does get
 lost/stolen, lose just one credit card instead of a credit card,
 debit card, drivers license, library card, etc.
   - Keep the minimal amount of cash with you, this is relatively easy
 these days anyway.
   - Leave your passport in a safe where you stay, also keep a copy in
 your laptop bag just in case something goes wrong and you need to
 explain to your embassy.
   - Store the emergency numbers listed on the DebConf site on your
 phone, along with some numbers from Debian friends. For worst-case
 type of things, store your embassy's number too. Also your credit
 card cancellation number.
   - Print out your international medical insurance details and keep it
 in your wallet, you want to minimize any time doubting how you'll
 pay for a medical emergency if it should happen. (not sure how
 the hospital system works in Brazil, but always best to play it
 safe)

 * Be careful who you trust:
   - There are scammers everywhere. In Hungary some of the people got
 lured into a restaurant and everything was just fine. When they got
 back home, they realised that they got charged 1000's of dollars on
 their credit cards. It looked fine when they signed it because of
 currency conversion, but they were clearly targetted for this. If
 any offer or deal looks to good to be true, consider just walking
 away especially if you're alone.

 * If you want to drink, do it in a safe place, don't get drunk and
   disorientated in public.

 * Don't start fights.

Also, pockets that zip up are great! If you have those, pack them!

And also, don't panic and pack your towel.

-Jonathan

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Re: DebConf19 Beers

[Jonathan Carter]

On 2019/05/02 16:03, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote:
> We will have 4 taps. We are thinking in:
> 1 - IPA
> 2 - Wheat
> 3 - Pilsen
> 4 - miscellaneous: Stout, England Pale Ale, American Blonde Ale,
> Porter, other?

IMHO the beers in the miscellaneous list sound nicer than the primary list.

-Jonathan

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Re: [OT] Re: Debconf in Israel

[Jonathan Carter]

Hi!

On 2019/03/29 13:20, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 3/29/19 11:40 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:

I believe that this thread has steered well off-topic, and it's probably
better that you move it off-list or elsewhere.

thanks!

-Jonathan

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Re: Debconf in Israel

[Jonathan Carter]

On 2019/03/21 19:36, Nasir El-Amin wrote:
> I haven’t once mentioned Jews. I’ve mentioned Israelis which are
> citizens of Israel. There are Jews worldwide especially of the Orthodox
> that 100% condemn the existence of Israel. This isn’t a Jew vs Muslim
> issue. This is a Israel vs Muslims issue and the fact that Israel exists
> through the theft of land, genocide, oppression and even blockading of
> the most basic of humanitarian supplies. Palestinians die everyday at
> the hand of Israel. You can’t tip toe around this issue and say there
> are Israelis that don’t support what’s happening that’s not true. Every
> Israeli supports the theft of land because they are by their presence on
> the stolen land complicit in the theft. Every Israeli is complicit in
> the genocide to because it’s not some fringe politics but it is the
> national political discourse of Israel to treat Palestinians the way
> they are treated.

Fair enough re: you not mentioning Jews, it's still unfair to clump all
Israeli people together as the same and assume they are all in support
of what their government is doing.

> You can defend Israel or you can be in the right side of history and
> stand with the Palestinians, United Nations, Human Rights Watch, BDS and
> countless organizations and human rights officials worldwide who condemn
> what’s happened and continues to happen in Israel.
> 
> Israel doesn’t have any right to exist it’s a apartheid and stolen land.
> Perhaps Jonathan the reason you defend Israel is because you live in a
> former apartheid state that stole land from Black South Africans and
> treated Black South Africans similar although much nicer than Israelis
> treat Palestinians. You benefited from apartheid in your own country as
> a White South African who for decades benefited as Black South Africans
> suffered oppression.

You must have misread or misunderstood something, since I haven't said
anything in defense of Israel whatsoever.

-Jonathan

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Re: Debconf in Israel

[Jonathan Carter]

Hi Nasir

On 2019/03/21 18:52, Nasir El-Amin wrote:
> Any DD who lives in Israel is a direct contributor financially and
> morally to apartheid and genocide against the Palestinian people.

I sympathise with your views but you're stepping over a line here. Many
Jewish people and Israelites do not agree with what the government is
doing, and it's unfair to them to generalise and imply that all of them
are in support of the regime.

-Jonathan

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Re: Questions after talks at DebConf (idea)

[Jonathan Carter]

Hi Chris

On 2018/09/08 12:11, Chris Lamb wrote:
> I noticed yesterday [0] that the PyCascades conference [1] explicitly
> does not permit any questions and answers after a presentation.
>
> Finding this intriguing, I followed up to ask for more information and
> was given the following reply:
>
>   No live Q after talks makes it a more friendly environment for
>   first time and new speakers. @ericholscher has written about this and
>   explained it better than I can in a tweet :)  [link removed]
I think ultimately, this should be up to the individual speaker for
every talk. At some sessions where I was talkmeister, I told the speaker
that their allotted time includes their question time and some have told
me that they won't be taking questions. They've also gone another step
further and mentioned at the beginning of the talk that they have lots
to go through and how to get in touch if anyone has feedback.

As for the logic behind "No live Q after talks makes it a more
friendly environment", I find that somewhat flawed. By that rationale we
can also just stop having conferences because that will help reduce
harassment. Questions can sometimes contribute largely to making a talk
interesting, but they're by no means compulsory for speakers at DebConf
and I believe that the status quo on this is just fine.

-Jonathan

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Re: Cheeeeeeeeese! (and wine!)

[Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)]

On 18-07-26 10:12:28, Sean Whitton wrote:

https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf18/CheeseWineBoF

Fill out what you are bringing. Join the Cheese Team.

VERY important - Did you bring some interesting cheeses? Are you
already in Taiwan? DO YOU NEED A FRIDGE? We have a fridge in the video
room (MIRC, 7th floor, room 705).


Can we make a montary donation?


I'd like that too, since I sadly forgot my C goodies back in Cape
Town. Unfortunately, that depends on someone being able and willing
to go out and use these monetary donations and buy interesting local
things with it, and afaik there's no one who has some spare
bandwidth to deal with it right now.

So... anyone willing to step up and put together a small team who
could go to the big carrefour mall and explore and buy some
supplimental snacks/drinks for C?

-Jonathan


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Re: Visa procedures

[Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)]

On 26/06/2018 15:13, Kristi Progri wrote:
> "Furthermore, foreign nationals who have been invited to attend
> international conferences, sporting events, trade fairs or other
> activities in Taiwan—organized, co-organized, or sponsored by central
> government agencies—are also eligible for an eVisa. Such foreign
> nationals must obtain an Ecode from the host organization in Taiwan
> (n.b., not the Bureau of Consular Affairs) prior to submitting an online
> application for an eVisa."

It doesn't seem like the eVisa is a hard requirement, it just seems like
something that may add a little more convenience if available.

> Also, together with the online application they require beforehand these
> documents:
> 
> *In order to issue a visa we need:
> 
> original passport valid at least 6 months
> _airline ticket _
> application form filled on line and stamped
> 
> one photo (passport size)
> 
> copy of the payment
> 
> So, I am afraid that we might need in advance the flight tickets.

My local embassy was very friendly, have you tried phoning yours? For
some visa applications I've done in the past, the embassy was fine with
just a printout of planned flights. Your local embassy might be too, I'd
urge you to get in touch with them ASAP.

-Jonathan

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Re: Current eCode for VISA status

[Jonathan Carter]

On 22/06/2018 11:24, ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬) wrote:
> We has sent the eCode request to NCTU and waiting for response. However,
> We recommend attendee to get regular VISA first due to the following
> reasons:
> 
> * Our trusted organization, OCF.tw, has bad experience in past eCode
>   request for other event. We might have problem getting eCode for
>   DebConf18.
> 
> * People also report that VISA for eCode is more expensive than regular
>   one due to additional process fee.
> 
> So please try to get regular VISA first, and wait for eCode if you
> really need eCode for the VISA.

It doesn't seem to really be an issue, I applied for my visa and had no
problem. If someone is considering waiting for the eCode, I'd strongly
suggest going forward with your application right now. It seems like
eCode can make things easier when applying, but the standard ROC visa
application is very straight forward and at least my local embassy is
very efficient. On top of that they charged me zero fees for the whole
application, I've never come across that when applying for visas in the
past.

But yeah I think at this stage it's not worth while making eCode/eVisa a
blocker, and even though there is still a bit of time left, there are
extra fees that apply if you want to submit an application very close to
your travel dates, so people who need a visa should really take care of
that right now.

-Jonathan

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Debian Package of the Day videos at DebConf

[Jonathan Carter]

Hi Debconfers

Do you remember Debian Package of the Day[1] that ran in the mid 2000s?

Well, recently I started a new video version of that series that you can
either view on YouTube[2] or on my video website[3].

If there's enough interest, then I'd like to do a few package of the day
videos with either package maintainers or upstream at DebConf/DebCamp.

These videos tend to be short, less than 10 minutes, and shouldn't take
a lot of time to put together.

If you're interested, then please mail me back with a package (or a few
potential ones) that we could cover during DC along with the times that
you would likely be available.

Thanks and see you soon at DebConf!

-Jonathan

[1] https://debaday.debian.net
[2] https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIbuTLE8Wih4pBd8S9UjGDGQQXG4-a6Yw
[3] https://highvoltage.tv/categories/debian-package-of-the-day

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