Re: Bus Sao Paulo <-> Curitiba [and 4 more messages]
I just wanted to say thank you to everyone for the comprehensive information and advice, which will be very useful to me. (I haven't booked yet...) I hope to bump into you in Curitiba :-). Regards, Ian.
Re: Bus Sao Paulo <-> Curitiba
Hi Ian, On 17/05/2019 13:23, Ian Jackson wrote: > Partly because I want to reduce my number of flights for ethical > reasons, and partly because I want to see Sao Paulo anyway, I have > arranged to fly to/from Sao Paulo and will take a bus from there. > > On the way to Debconf I will stay in Sao Paulo for a few days, and > then take the bus to Curitiba; on the way back I plan to go straight > from the Debconf accomodation to the bus and then from the bus to the > airport (GRU) in Sao Paulo. > > AFAICT there are plenty of buses between Sao Paulo and Curitiba and > the bus trip is about 7h. > > Are there any particular tips that locals could share with me ? > > Particular questions I have: > > * Is there a particular bus company that you would recommend ? Can >(should) I make an online booking ? My alternative would probably >be to go to an appropriate booking office in Sao Paulo I guess. There are Cometa and Kaissara. Both are good. https://www.viacaocometa.com.br/ https://www.kaissara.com.br/ We can see all options on this website, but i couldn't find english version: https://www.clickbus.com.br/ At Tiete Bus Station you can find all companies desk and buy there. There are a lot of departures schedule. > * How much additional time should I allow on the way back, given that >I definitely don't want to miss my flight from Sao Paulo ? If you flight will be at night, I suggest you departure from Curitiba by morning. It's better arrive in São Paulo before 6PM. > * I will travel with a large rucksack. In Europe I would expect to >put my rucksack in the luggage compartment under the coach and not >to need to worry that it would be stolen. (My valuables will be >with me in a shoulder bag and bum bag.) Should I expect the same >in Brasil ? How are these things typically done ? You will have to put your rucksack on the luggage compartment. It's safe keep it there. The driver will give a ticket number to you. During this travel, the bus will make one stop. When this happen, take you "shoulder bag and bum bag" with you. Don't leave it on the bus. > * I plan to make one of my trips overnight and sleep on the bus. >(I will sleep OK on a bus.) Is this a reasonable idea or bad for >some reason ? It's good. Executivo and Semi-Leito type are comfortable. Leito and Leito-Cama the seat turn in a bed. Don't buy "Convencional" :-) > * I presume the bus will go from somewhere in central Sao Paulo. On >the way to Curitiba I will have been in Sao Paulo for a few days so >won't be totally disoriented. On the way back I will need to go >straight from the long distance bus to the airport (ORD) in Sao >Paulo. Are there any particular tips ? In São Paulo, you will departure/arrive at Tiete Bus Station. >From there you can take a bus directly to Guarulhos: http://www.airportbusservice.com.br Or take Uber or 99. Or take metroo, but it's not easy to take it. > * Which side of the bus should I try to sit for the best views ? :-) >From São Paulo to Curiitba, if you travel at night, we won't see many things. >From Curitiba to São Paulo, I think the driver side should be better. Best regards, -- Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls) Curitiba - Brasil Debian Developer Diretor do Instituto para Conservação de Tecnologias Livres Membro da Comunidade Curitiba Livre Site: http://www.phls.com.br GNU/Linux user: 228719 GPG ID: 0443C450 Organizador da DebConf19 - Conferência Mundial de Desenvolvedores(as) do Projeto Debian Curitiba - 21 a 28 de julho de 2019 http://debconf19.debconf.org
Re: Bus Sao Paulo <-> Curitiba
Hi Ian, On 17/05/2019 13:23, Ian Jackson wrote: > Partly because I want to reduce my number of flights for ethical > reasons, and partly because I want to see Sao Paulo anyway, I have > arranged to fly to/from Sao Paulo and will take a bus from there. I forgot telling you that: If you can stay in São Paulo after DebConf, Linuxdev-br will take place there from August 2-4 . https://linuxdev-br.net Best regards, -- Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls) Curitiba - Brasil Debian Developer Diretor do Instituto para Conservação de Tecnologias Livres Membro da Comunidade Curitiba Livre Site: http://www.phls.com.br GNU/Linux user: 228719 GPG ID: 0443C450 Organizador da DebConf19 - Conferência Mundial de Desenvolvedores(as) Debian Curitiba - 21 a 28 de julho de 2019 http://debconf19.debconf.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Bus Sao Paulo <-> Curitiba
> > Hello, I am a resident of Curitiba, I know this route a lot São paulo / > Curitiba, come on: > The companies with the best cost / benefit and comfort are "Catarinense" > and "Cometa" , the trip does not cost more than R$100, all buses have air > conditioning, armchair semi-bed, water and 220V / usb outlets. You must buy > the ticket online, through the company's own website, there are websites > that play the role of an agency and facilitate the purchase, such as > "CLICKBUS" , but this will lead to higher costs due to convenience fees, > ie, prefer the site of own company. > Book 10 hours for the trip. The BR116 highway is quite winding and > accidents involving heavy trucks are not uncommon, which may delay your > journey. Incidentally, at the time of purchase, check in which bus station > your bus will leave, "Barra funda", "Tietê" or "Guarulhos" , they are very > far from each other, probably the bus will leave Tietê, which is about 40 > minutes from Guarulhos airport. > The luggage in the road transport is placed in the compartment under the > bus, should be careful only on arrival, many drivers throw all the luggage > on the floor of the bus station when they arrive, especially in Sao Paulo > you must be careful and be one of the first to descend to ensure the safety > of your luggage, other than that, is quiet. > Brazil has modernized the fleet of travel buses in recent years, all have > air suspension and are comfortable enough to sleep even on "executive" > buses, if you prefer a bed in the bus, you can buy a "leito" ticket, but > they are exponentially more expensive and are not worth so much. > To better visualize the cities and the mountains, always prefer the right > side seats, "the bathroom side", if you can check if the line has a double > decker bus, choose the top (executive) floor in the first row, in that > configuration is perfect for enjoying the trip. > The bus station in Curitiba is about 1km from utfpr, a place that will be > held at debconf. > That's all, folks, > Hope this helps, > Any questions please contact us. > Rogerio Bayer. > > Ps: Sorry for failing in English, maybe I used some translator. > > Em sex, 17 de mai de 2019 13:23, Ian Jackson < > ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> escreveu: > >> Partly because I want to reduce my number of flights for ethical >> reasons, and partly because I want to see Sao Paulo anyway, I have >> arranged to fly to/from Sao Paulo and will take a bus from there. >> >> On the way to Debconf I will stay in Sao Paulo for a few days, and >> then take the bus to Curitiba; on the way back I plan to go straight >> from the Debconf accomodation to the bus and then from the bus to the >> airport (GRU) in Sao Paulo. >> >> AFAICT there are plenty of buses between Sao Paulo and Curitiba and >> the bus trip is about 7h. >> >> Are there any particular tips that locals could share with me ? >> >> Particular questions I have: >> >> * Is there a particular bus company that you would recommend ? Can >>(should) I make an online booking ? My alternative would probably >>be to go to an appropriate booking office in Sao Paulo I guess. >> >> * How much additional time should I allow on the way back, given that >>I definitely don't want to miss my flight from Sao Paulo ? >> >> * I will travel with a large rucksack. In Europe I would expect to >>put my rucksack in the luggage compartment under the coach and not >>to need to worry that it would be stolen. (My valuables will be >>with me in a shoulder bag and bum bag.) Should I expect the same >>in Brasil ? How are these things typically done ? >> >> * I plan to make one of my trips overnight and sleep on the bus. >>(I will sleep OK on a bus.) Is this a reasonable idea or bad for >>some reason ? >> >> * I presume the bus will go from somewhere in central Sao Paulo. On >>the way to Curitiba I will have been in Sao Paulo for a few days so >>won't be totally disoriented. On the way back I will need to go >>straight from the long distance bus to the airport (ORD) in Sao >>Paulo. Are there any particular tips ? >> >> * Which side of the bus should I try to sit for the best views ? :-) >> >> Thanks for any help. >> >> Ian. >> >> -- >> Ian JacksonThese opinions are my >> own. >> >> If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk, that is >> a private address which bypasses my fierce spamfilter. >> >>
Re: Bus Sao Paulo <-> Curitiba
Hello, I live in Curitiba. > * I will travel with a large rucksack. In Europe I would expect to >put my rucksack in the luggage compartment under the coach and not >to need to worry that it would be stolen. (My valuables will be >with me in a shoulder bag and bum bag.) Should I expect the same >in Brasil ? How are these things typically done ? I'd say the biggest theft risk is with the valuables you bring with you and store in the overhead space. During the night, when people are sleeping, theft can occur. Put it next to your feet if you can. The other scenario is during the scheduled ~20min rest stops, in which case you definitely should take your things with you when leaving your seat. > * I plan to make one of my trips overnight and sleep on the bus. >(I will sleep OK on a bus.) Is this a reasonable idea or bad for >some reason ? That's fine, and common. These buses tend to be quite comfortable, and double decker ones even. You can also take a sleeper bus if you want, where the seats recline close to horizontal. I believe they are available even though it's a somewhat short route.
Bus Sao Paulo <-> Curitiba
Partly because I want to reduce my number of flights for ethical reasons, and partly because I want to see Sao Paulo anyway, I have arranged to fly to/from Sao Paulo and will take a bus from there. On the way to Debconf I will stay in Sao Paulo for a few days, and then take the bus to Curitiba; on the way back I plan to go straight from the Debconf accomodation to the bus and then from the bus to the airport (GRU) in Sao Paulo. AFAICT there are plenty of buses between Sao Paulo and Curitiba and the bus trip is about 7h. Are there any particular tips that locals could share with me ? Particular questions I have: * Is there a particular bus company that you would recommend ? Can (should) I make an online booking ? My alternative would probably be to go to an appropriate booking office in Sao Paulo I guess. * How much additional time should I allow on the way back, given that I definitely don't want to miss my flight from Sao Paulo ? * I will travel with a large rucksack. In Europe I would expect to put my rucksack in the luggage compartment under the coach and not to need to worry that it would be stolen. (My valuables will be with me in a shoulder bag and bum bag.) Should I expect the same in Brasil ? How are these things typically done ? * I plan to make one of my trips overnight and sleep on the bus. (I will sleep OK on a bus.) Is this a reasonable idea or bad for some reason ? * I presume the bus will go from somewhere in central Sao Paulo. On the way to Curitiba I will have been in Sao Paulo for a few days so won't be totally disoriented. On the way back I will need to go straight from the long distance bus to the airport (ORD) in Sao Paulo. Are there any particular tips ? * Which side of the bus should I try to sit for the best views ? :-) Thanks for any help. Ian. -- Ian JacksonThese opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk, that is a private address which bypasses my fierce spamfilter.
