Re: DC18 - Currency

[Tiago Bortoletto Vaz]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 06:14:25PM -0700, kathey wrote:

[...]

> * The Bank of Taiwan buys American Dollars (USD) at 30.08 NTD, and sells
> them at 30.77. They take payments to the government as well as handling
> currancy exchanges in the airport. Here is their list of current exchange
> rates for many currancies: https://rate.bot.com.tw/xrt?Lang=en-US

Oh, that's so nice to finaly see an actual answer for the original
question on this endless I-know-more-than-you thread. Thanks for that :-)

Bests,

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Re: DC18 - Currency

[kathey]

On 07/17/2018 09:59 AM, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote:
 >
 > Thanks, but this doesn't answer my question about exchange rate at 
airport.
 >

All the emphasis on Mastercard and Visa Reminds me of asking technical
questions and getting referred repeatedly to some "free" go-ogle service
instead. Exchange rates at the airport is a valid question no?

Re: DC18 - Currency

[kathey]

I know nothing about these sites' accuracy, but these below were the 
best I found with "https://DuckDuckGo.com; and "site:gov.tw" term.


* The Bank of Taiwan buys American Dollars (USD) at 30.08 NTD, and sells 
them at 30.77. They take payments to the government as well as handling 
currancy exchanges in the airport. Here is their list of current 
exchange rates for many currancies: https://rate.bot.com.tw/xrt?Lang=en-US


* This site says to expect roughly 2.5% service fees for currancy 
exchanges. 
https://www.ihatetaxis.com/convert?amount=100=TWD=USD=TPE-Taipei-Taoyuan-Airport. 
It also has lots of helpful information on ground transporation to and 
from TPE in English.


* Official web page of the TPE airport services includes showers!!! and 
banking, ATM etc. information with locations in many (all?) terminals: 
http://www.taoyuan-airport.com/english/store3


* Locations and 24hr phone numbers of exchanges at the Taoyuan Airport 
(TPE) 
http://airportbanking.com/taiwan-taoyuan-international-airport-tpe/#currency-exchange. 

Re: DC18 - Currency

[Thomas Kuiper]

On 2018-07-18 09:29, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 07/18/2018 02:26 AM, Norbert Preining wrote:
>>> Just find an ATM with the VISA logo.
>> You incredible travel experience seems to never have brought you to such
>> highly civilized countries as Japan ... getting cash here is a pain,
>> still in 2018.
> One of my best friends is a professor in Japan and I'm going to Japan
> to visit him usually twice a year. I think, I mentioned that I had
> no problems so far withdrawing money in Japan using both my Norwegian
> and my German VISA card, usually at 7-11. Even in smaller towns like
> Maebashi or Neyagawa.
But you need to find 7-11. At most major banks in Japan, those cards will NOT 
work :-)
Anyhow in Japan you pay in the stores with VISA, Mastercard. Oddly never an 
issue there ;p

Thomas
Also a German (actually in Tokyo right now).

Re: DC18 - Currency

[Norbert Preining]

> and my German VISA card, usually at 7-11. Even in smaller towns like

Yes, 7-11, this is the way to go, but who of a first time visitor would
expect that the best (if not only) place to get money is a convenience
store!

Norbert

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Re: DC18 - Currency

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

On 07/18/2018 02:59 AM, Norbert Preining wrote:
>> and my German VISA card, usually at 7-11. Even in smaller towns like
> 
> Yes, 7-11, this is the way to go, but who of a first time visitor would
> expect that the best (if not only) place to get money is a convenience
> store!

It's not limited to 7-11. They also have ATMs in shopping malls which
work just fine. In fact, I have only withdrawn money from a 7-11
ATM only once after I went to a Japanese bank in Neyagawa which wouldn't
take my card. But the tellers in the bank were so kind to point me to
the next 7-11 ATM at the main station.

Last time, I even used my German VISA card to pay for my groceries
at Mandai supermarket because I ran out of cash and to my surprise,
it just worked.

Adrian

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Re: DC18 - Currency

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

On 07/18/2018 02:26 AM, Norbert Preining wrote:
>> Just find an ATM with the VISA logo.
> 
> You incredible travel experience seems to never have brought you to such
> highly civilized countries as Japan ... getting cash here is a pain,
> still in 2018.

One of my best friends is a professor in Japan and I'm going to Japan
to visit him usually twice a year. I think, I mentioned that I had
no problems so far withdrawing money in Japan using both my Norwegian
and my German VISA card, usually at 7-11. Even in smaller towns like
Maebashi or Neyagawa.

PS: I have been to two Debian Benkyou-kais in Japan.

Adrian

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Re: DC18 - Currency

[Norbert Preining]

> Just find an ATM with the VISA logo.

You incredible travel experience seems to never have brought you to such
highly civilized countries as Japan ... getting cash here is a pain,
still in 2018.

Enjoy.

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Re: DC18 - Currency

[Milan Kupcevic]

Adrian,

You are arguing with an AI ChatBot/MailBot. It is getting harder to
recognize them, but still possible.

Milan



On 07/17/2018 01:46 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> Are we talking about exchanging cash or withdrawing money from the ATM?
> 
> I am asking because the later can be clearly looked up on the internet.
> 
> Google tells you how much “X USD in NTD” are and your bank will tell you
> how much they will charge you for withdrawing money abroad. It’s a
> bank-specific fee with the rare occasion that the ATM owner will charge
> an extra fee.
> 
> Adrian
> 
> On Jul 17, 2018, at 7:27 PM, Peter van Summeren
> mailto:peter_van_summe...@hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Paulo Henrique,
>> No, it doesn't answer your question because my experiece is that I
>> have to pay the exchange rate at that time (which I can not check) +
>> some fixed  fee to my bank home (in case of Mastercard)
>> I take it as it is. I always get less then it should be. I exchange at
>> places where many use the atm.
>> So sorry.
>> With friendly greetings ,
>> Peter van Summeren
>>
>>
>> Outlook voor Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36> downloaden
>>
>> 
>> *From:* John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > <mailto:glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:03:37 PM
>> *To:* Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
>> *Cc:* debconf-discuss
>> *Subject:* Re: DC18 - Currency
>>  
>>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:59 PM, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
>> mailto:p...@softwarelivre.org>> wrote:
>>
>>> - Mensagem original -
>>>> De: "John Paul Adrian Glaubitz" >>> <mailto:glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de>>
>>>>
>>>> Unless you don't have a VISA card or your bank has very bad conditions
>>>> for using an ATM abroad, exchanging cash at the airport doesn't make
>>>> much sense.
>>>
>>> Thanks, but this doesn't answer my question about exchange rate at
>>> airport.
>>
>> You can try to give them a call:
>>
>> > 
>> >https://www.taoyuan-airport.com/english/store3_detail/Bank%20Of%20Taiwan%20(24%20hours%20Currency%20Exchange)
>>
>> Adrian




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Re: DC18 - Currency

[Bdale Garbee]

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz  writes:

>> Expect no help from the counter.
> Just find an ATM with the VISA logo.

As someone with extensive travel experience, I can say it's not quite
that simple.  In a number of countries I've visited, there have been
ATMs with the VISA logo that would not work with a card issued in some
other country.  My experience is that most hotel and restaurant
reception personnel can tell you where and how to find the nearest ATM
that can handle international cards.  The ATMs in places like airports
and train stations are good bets if you don't have someone handy to ask,
and it's often a clue if there is extensive alternate language support
in the user interface, but I've learned that even in some EU countries,
not all ATMs in all train stations will take VISA cards from the USA.

Regards,

Bdale


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Re: DC18 - Currency

[Peter van Summeren]

Hello Paulo Henrique,
No, it doesn't answer your question because my experiece is that I have to pay 
the exchange rate at that time (which I can not check) + some fixed  fee to my 
bank home (in case of Mastercard)
I take it as it is. I always get less then it should be. I exchange at places 
where many use the atm.
So sorry.
With friendly greetings ,
Peter van Summeren


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From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:03:37 PM
To: Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
Cc: debconf-discuss
Subject: Re: DC18 - Currency



On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:59 PM, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana 
mailto:p...@softwarelivre.org>> wrote:

- Mensagem original -
De: "John Paul Adrian Glaubitz" 
mailto:glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de>>

Unless you don't have a VISA card or your bank has very bad conditions
for using an ATM abroad, exchanging cash at the airport doesn't make
much sense.

Thanks, but this doesn't answer my question about exchange rate at airport.

You can try to give them a call:

> https://www.taoyuan-airport.com/english/store3_detail/Bank%20Of%20Taiwan%20(24%20hours%20Currency%20Exchange)

Adrian

Re: DC18 - Currency

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

Are we talking about exchanging cash or withdrawing money from the ATM?

I am asking because the later can be clearly looked up on the internet.

Google tells you how much “X USD in NTD” are and your bank will tell you how 
much they will charge you for withdrawing money abroad. It’s a bank-specific 
fee with the rare occasion that the ATM owner will charge an extra fee.

Adrian

> On Jul 17, 2018, at 7:27 PM, Peter van Summeren 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Paulo Henrique,
> No, it doesn't answer your question because my experiece is that I have to 
> pay the exchange rate at that time (which I can not check) + some fixed  fee 
> to my bank home (in case of Mastercard)
> I take it as it is. I always get less then it should be. I exchange at places 
> where many use the atm.
> So sorry.
> With friendly greetings ,
> Peter van Summeren
> 
> 
> Outlook voor Android downloaden
> 
> From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:03:37 PM
> To: Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
> Cc: debconf-discuss
> Subject: Re: DC18 - Currency
>  
> 
> 
> On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:59 PM, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana 
>  wrote:
> 
>> - Mensagem original -
>>> De: "John Paul Adrian Glaubitz" 
>>> 
>>> Unless you don't have a VISA card or your bank has very bad conditions
>>> for using an ATM abroad, exchanging cash at the airport doesn't make
>>> much sense.
>> 
>> Thanks, but this doesn't answer my question about exchange rate at airport.
> 
> You can try to give them a call:
> 
> > https://www.taoyuan-airport.com/english/store3_detail/Bank%20Of%20Taiwan%20(24%20hours%20Currency%20Exchange)
> 
> Adrian

Re: DC18 - Currency

[Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana]

Hi Peter,

- Mensagem original -
> De: "Peter van Summeren" 
> Para: "Paulo Henrique" , "John Paul Adrian Glaubitz" 
> 
> Cc: "debconf-discuss" 
> Enviadas: Terça-feira, 17 de julho de 2018 14:27:47
> Assunto: Re: DC18 - Currency

> Hello Paulo Henrique,
> No, it doesn't answer your question because my experiece is that I have to pay
> the exchange rate at that time (which I can not check) + some fixed  fee to my
> bank home (in case of Mastercard)
> I take it as it is. I always get less then it should be. I exchange at places
> where many use the atm.
> So sorry.

No problem, thanks for sharing your experience about that.

Best regards,

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Re: DC18 - Currency

[Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana]

- Mensagem original -
> De: "John Paul Adrian Glaubitz" 
>
> Unless you don't have a VISA card or your bank has very bad conditions
> for using an ATM abroad, exchanging cash at the airport doesn't make
> much sense.

Thanks, but this doesn't answer my question about exchange rate at airport.

Best regards

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Re: DC18 - Currency

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

On 07/17/2018 06:23 PM, Peter van Summeren wrote:
> You are so sure.

Yes, quite sure since I am actually traveling a lot and
never had to bring any cash in advance in the past 10
to 15 years. My VISA cards always worked.

> What shall I tell you? Forget it.

I was merely asking what kind of VISA you were talking about
when you said "American kind"? Maybe you are confusing VISA
with a regular Dutch banking card (Maestro)?

VISA and MasterCard are normally accepted world-wide (except
for a few merchants as mentioned before; ATMs always worked
for me), national bank cards like Maestro or the German
"ec-Karte" are not or are very limited.

Adrian

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Re: DC18 - Currency

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

On 07/17/2018 06:09 PM, Peter van Summeren wrote:
> I could use my MasterCard with atm's. You have to go to the ones used by the 
> public.
> I also took cash with me for emergency.
> For Taiwan there is another brand of Visa.

What kind of brand should that be? VISA should be VISA, there
is no difference. There can be some merchants though that limit
the acceptance of VISA cards to a certain country. I made this
experience in Japan, for example, when buying from Yahoo Japan
which accepts Japanese VISA cards only.

> This kind of card is used by americans.

Pretty sure that's the standard VISA card.

> Ask your bank at home.
> (My Visa card did not work at all banks)

That might be because these banks did not support VISA at all.
I have been to banks in Japan which would take cards from their
own customers only, but I just got cash from 7-11's ATMs.

> Expect no help from the counter.
Just find an ATM with the VISA logo.

Adrian

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Re: DC18 - Currency

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

On 07/17/2018 05:14 PM, Samuel Henrique wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 at 12:12, Louis-Philippe Véronneau  > wrote:
> 
> My visa card was accepted in the ATM at the airport and I took out money
> that way. Normally it's the cheapest way to get local currency.
> 
> 
> I think Paulo means the exchange rate of NTD at the airport.

Unless you don't have a VISA card or your bank has very bad conditions
for using an ATM abroad, exchanging cash at the airport doesn't make
much sense.

I have been in Taiwan in 2016 and I could just use my VISA at Kaohsiung
port terminal to withdraw enough money for my stay without any additional
fees. They also sold SIM cards there at ridiculously low prices with
unlimited internet for 5 days for something like 600 NTD.

Adrian

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Re: DC18 - Currency

[Samuel Henrique]

On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 at 12:12, Louis-Philippe Véronneau 
wrote:

> My visa card was accepted in the ATM at the airport and I took out money
> that way. Normally it's the cheapest way to get local currency.
>

I think Paulo means the exchange rate of NTD at the airport.

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Re: DC18 - Currency

[Louis-Philippe Véronneau]

My visa card was accepted in the ATM at the airport and I took out money
that way. Normally it's the cheapest way to get local currency.

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On 2018-07-17 23:07, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Could you please ask at Taoyuan Airport Bank Of Taiwan what is the currency 
> there?
> I know the official currency is USD 1$ = TWD 30.476. But usually in airports 
> the currency is higher.
> 
> Best regards,
> 



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DC18 - Currency

[Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana]

Hi,

Could you please ask at Taoyuan Airport Bank Of Taiwan what is the currency 
there?
I know the official currency is USD 1$ = TWD 30.476. But usually in airports 
the currency is higher.

Best regards,

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