Gandi at the Debconf

2018-07-19 Thread Thomas Kuiper
Hello,

whoever read this; thought I let you know that I'll be participating in person 
at the conference from 7/28 to 7/31.
I run the Asia office of registrar Gandi.net in Taipei and can tell you a lot 
of domain name stories
(people always underestimate how critical/important domain names / DNS servers 
are to send emails, point to the right servers...).

Looking forward to see some of you people again and meet some new.
I'll be the one with the Gandi T-Shirt, if you also want one, email me your 
size (S,M,L,X,XL) directly and I'll bring it there.

PS. Debian developers can get heavily reduced rates with us, process is here:
https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits#Gandi

Thanks,
Thomas



Re: Gandi at the Debconf

2018-07-19 Thread Rogério Brito
Hi, Thomas and others.

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:13 AM, Thomas Kuiper  wrote:
> PS. Debian developers can get heavily reduced rates with us, process is here:
> https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits#Gandi

Is this strictly, really, only developers and not maintainers?


Thanks,

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Re: Gandi at the Debconf

2018-07-19 Thread Thomas Kuiper



On 2018-07-20 06:38, Rogério Brito wrote:
> Hi, Thomas and others.
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:13 AM, Thomas Kuiper  wrote:
>> PS. Debian developers can get heavily reduced rates with us, process is here:
>> https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits#Gandi
> Is this strictly, really, only developers and not maintainers?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
Hi,

maintainers should be fine too. Our criteria is that you need to send your 
request from @debian.org!

Thanks,
Thomas



Re: Gandi at the Debconf

2018-07-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Thomas Kuiper wrote:

> maintainers should be fine too. Our criteria is that you need to send your 
> request from @debian.org!

Only Debian Project members (aka DDs) get an @debian.org address, DMs
(Debian Maintainers) are not Debian Project members, only Debian
contributors and Debian community members. It would be nice to extend
the Gandi offer to all Debian contributors:

https://contributors.debian.org/

-- 
bye,
pabs

https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise



Re: Gandi at the Debconf

2018-07-21 Thread Luca Filipozzi
On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:40:12AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Thomas Kuiper wrote:
> 
> > maintainers should be fine too. Our criteria is that you need to send your 
> > request from @debian.org!
> 
> Only Debian Project members (aka DDs) get an @debian.org address, DMs
> (Debian Maintainers) are not Debian Project members, only Debian
> contributors and Debian community members. It would be nice to extend
> the Gandi offer to all Debian contributors:
> 
> https://contributors.debian.org/

It would be nice to expand the offer to include Debian contributors but
we will need to provide Gandi to validate claims.

Thomas, currently you validate Debian Developers by validating that
they're emailing you from their @debian.org address.

You could mimic this for Debian Maintainers by reviewing their entries
on the aforementioned website and finding the email address that they're
using in the 'extra info' links.

Let us know if you wish to expand your offer to Debian contributors and
we can adjust the language on the MemberBenefits page.

-- 
Luca Filipozzi



Re: Gandi at the Debconf

2018-07-21 Thread Thomas Kuiper



On 2018-07-21 21:24, Luca Filipozzi wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:40:12AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Thomas Kuiper wrote:
>>
>>> maintainers should be fine too. Our criteria is that you need to send your 
>>> request from @debian.org!
>> Only Debian Project members (aka DDs) get an @debian.org address, DMs
>> (Debian Maintainers) are not Debian Project members, only Debian
>> contributors and Debian community members. It would be nice to extend
>> the Gandi offer to all Debian contributors:
>>
>> https://contributors.debian.org/
> It would be nice to expand the offer to include Debian contributors but
> we will need to provide Gandi to validate claims.
>
> Thomas, currently you validate Debian Developers by validating that
> they're emailing you from their @debian.org address.
>
> You could mimic this for Debian Maintainers by reviewing their entries
> on the aforementioned website and finding the email address that they're
> using in the 'extra info' links.
Correct, I noticed some emails are hidden though, any way to get validation?
We don't want to spend too much time looking for proof ;-)

> Let us know if you wish to expand your offer to Debian contributors and
> we can adjust the language on the MemberBenefits page.
We should, if we can figure out above :-)

Thanks,
Thomas



Re: Gandi at the Debconf

2018-07-23 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl

Hi!

Am 2018-07-21 15:21, schrieb Thomas Kuiper:


You could mimic this for Debian Maintainers by reviewing their entries
on the aforementioned website and finding the email address that 
they're

using in the 'extra info' links.
Correct, I noticed some emails are hidden though, any way to get 
validation?

We don't want to spend too much time looking for proof ;-)


Wouldn't it be doable, that Debian Maintainers get their request 
"proxied" by a Debian Developer? That's would be the least effort for 
gandi. And only a slight burden for the Debian Maintainer.



Best regards,
  Alexander




Re: Gandi at the Debconf

2018-07-25 Thread Thomas Kuiper
Hello,

after your feedback we (Gandi.net) are happy to extend the Member Benefits to 
Debian Maintainers!
So both Developers and Maintainers can get our lowest rates.

To do so simply send an OpenPGP signed email that is in the Debian Maintainer 
keyring with your Gandi username/handle to non-pro...@gandi.net

https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits#Gandi needs an update ;-)

Thanks!
Thomas



Re: Gandi at the Debconf

2018-07-26 Thread Luca Filipozzi
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:30:21PM +0800, Thomas Kuiper wrote:
> after your feedback we (Gandi.net) are happy to extend the Member
> Benefits to Debian Maintainers!  So both Developers and Maintainers
> can get our lowest rates.

Awesome!

> To do so simply send an OpenPGP signed email that is in the Debian
> Maintainer keyring with your Gandi username/handle to
> non-pro...@gandi.net
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits#Gandi needs an update ;-)
>

Do you want the procedure to be the same for both DDs and DMs: GPG
signed email, specifying whether DD or DM, so that you cn verify against
the appropriate keyring? That way, validation process is the same on
your end?

-- 
Luca Filipozzi



Re: Gandi at the Debconf

2018-07-26 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi


On 26.07.2018 08:30, Thomas Kuiper wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> after your feedback we (Gandi.net) are happy to extend the Member Benefits to 
> Debian Maintainers!
> So both Developers and Maintainers can get our lowest rates.

Thank you very much!

> To do so simply send an OpenPGP signed email that is in the Debian Maintainer 
> keyring with your Gandi username/handle to non-pro...@gandi.net
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits#Gandi needs an update ;-)

Yeah. In any case the information was already partly obsolete.
I migrated to v5, so most of the information are not more valid for my case.
Could you check what are the conditions (we do not have GANDI handler
anymore) and the setting for the new accounts?

in any case, thank you
cate



Re: Gandi at the Debconf

2018-07-26 Thread Thomas Kuiper



On 2018-07-26 15:57, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote:
> On 26.07.2018 08:30, Thomas Kuiper wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> after your feedback we (Gandi.net) are happy to extend the Member Benefits 
>> to Debian Maintainers!
>> So both Developers and Maintainers can get our lowest rates.
> Thank you very much!
>
>> To do so simply send an OpenPGP signed email that is in the Debian 
>> Maintainer keyring with your Gandi username/handle to non-pro...@gandi.net
>>
>> https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits#Gandi needs an update ;-)
> Yeah. In any case the information was already partly obsolete.
> I migrated to v5, so most of the information are not more valid for my case.
> Could you check what are the conditions (we do not have GANDI handler
> anymore) and the setting for the new accounts?
>
> in any case, thank you
>   cate
>
Here's my suggestion, we still have handles in V4 for a while :-)

 DDs should send emails to non-pro...@gandi.net from their @debian.org 
addresses indicating their Gandi username or handles. DMs should send a OpenPGP 
signed email to the same address. These need to be personal *-GANDI handles or 
usernames only (i.e. no company, reseller handles). DDs should set their 
handles' prepaid account currency as this will expedite provisioning. Gandi 
will apply discount level 'E'.

Thanks!
Thomas



Re: Gandi at the Debconf

2018-07-26 Thread Luca Filipozzi
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 05:07:00PM +0800, Thomas Kuiper wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2018-07-26 15:57, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote:
> > On 26.07.2018 08:30, Thomas Kuiper wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> after your feedback we (Gandi.net) are happy to extend the Member
> >> Benefits to Debian Maintainers!  So both Developers and Maintainers
> >> can get our lowest rates.
> > Thank you very much!
> >
> >> To do so simply send an OpenPGP signed email that is in the Debian
> >> Maintainer keyring with your Gandi username/handle to
> >> non-pro...@gandi.net
> >>
> >> https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits#Gandi needs an update ;-)
> > Yeah. In any case the information was already partly obsolete.  I
> > migrated to v5, so most of the information are not more valid for my
> > case.  Could you check what are the conditions (we do not have GANDI
> > handler anymore) and the setting for the new accounts?
> >
> > in any case, thank you cate
> >
> Here's my suggestion, we still have handles in V4 for a while :-)
> 
> DDs should send emails to non-pro...@gandi.net from their
> @debian.org addresses indicating their Gandi username or handles. DMs
> should send a OpenPGP signed email to the same address. These need to
> be personal *-GANDI handles or usernames only (i.e. no company,
> reseller handles). DDs should set their handles' prepaid account
> currency as this will expedite provisioning. Gandi will apply discount
> level 'E'.

How about:

DDs and DMs must send an OpenPGP-signed email to non-pro...@gandi.net
indicating your status (Debian Developer or Debian Maintainer) and your
Gandi account's username or handle (personal accounts only; no company
or reseller accounts). To expedite provisioning, set your account's
billing currency before sending the email. Once verified, Gandi will
apply discount level 'E' to the account.

-- 
Luca Filipozzi



Re: Gandi at the Debconf

2018-07-26 Thread Thomas Kuiper



On 2018-07-26 18:29, Luca Filipozzi wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 05:07:00PM +0800, Thomas Kuiper wrote:
>>
>> On 2018-07-26 15:57, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote:
>>> On 26.07.2018 08:30, Thomas Kuiper wrote:
 Hello,

 after your feedback we (Gandi.net) are happy to extend the Member
 Benefits to Debian Maintainers!  So both Developers and Maintainers
 can get our lowest rates.
>>> Thank you very much!
>>>
 To do so simply send an OpenPGP signed email that is in the Debian
 Maintainer keyring with your Gandi username/handle to
 non-pro...@gandi.net

 https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits#Gandi needs an update ;-)
>>> Yeah. In any case the information was already partly obsolete.  I
>>> migrated to v5, so most of the information are not more valid for my
>>> case.  Could you check what are the conditions (we do not have GANDI
>>> handler anymore) and the setting for the new accounts?
>>>
>>> in any case, thank you cate
>>>
>> Here's my suggestion, we still have handles in V4 for a while :-)
>>
>> DDs should send emails to non-pro...@gandi.net from their
>> @debian.org addresses indicating their Gandi username or handles. DMs
>> should send a OpenPGP signed email to the same address. These need to
>> be personal *-GANDI handles or usernames only (i.e. no company,
>> reseller handles). DDs should set their handles' prepaid account
>> currency as this will expedite provisioning. Gandi will apply discount
>> level 'E'.
> How about:
>
> DDs and DMs must send an OpenPGP-signed email to non-pro...@gandi.net
> indicating your status (Debian Developer or Debian Maintainer) and your
> Gandi account's username or handle (personal accounts only; no company
> or reseller accounts). To expedite provisioning, set your account's
> billing currency before sending the email. Once verified, Gandi will
> apply discount level 'E' to the account.
>
Looks good to me.