Re: [Debconf-team] Power adapters in New York
Jeremy picked up the cables. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Jimmy Kaplowitz ji...@debian.org wrote: Most recent update, already shared on IRC: On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 10:59:57AM -0600, Holger Levsen wrote: nothing happened, right? Regarding Adnan - Martin, yes, that didnt happen. However, Adnan - Jeremy Baron - me - MGA is now quite likely to happen, since Adnan has left them in a place that Jeremy can get them without Adnan having to be present, and Jeremy just confirmed to me a few minutes ago that he will pick them up in 2-4 hours from now and hand them off to me later today. I'll email again once I have them. I'm scheduled to arrive at MGA via UA 1583 from IAH on Saturday 7/7 at 14:00 plus any delays or missed connections. - Jimmy Kaplowitz ji...@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Power adapters in New York
Holger, there will be no problems :) On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Hi Jimmy, On Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: And he just handed them to me a few moments ago. It's one bag with four (not five) euro-plug to figure-8 cords and four (not five) Buffalo-power-adapter to figure-8 cables, all labeled DebConf. Should be no trouble to bring. awesome. if you're able to buy 4 figure-8 cables with US plugs, please do! (and bring both, the US+EU cables) thanks already, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Power adapters in New York
right, you already wasted several peoples time, I hope in future this is indeed over. Oh why thank you for telling me this, on that note thank you for wasting 2+ years of my life, and trust me it's over. On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: On Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012, Adnan Hodzic wrote: there will be no problems :) right, you already wasted several peoples time, I hope in future this is indeed over. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Power adapters in New York
As I said I brought the things all the way from Bosnia, I really wanna give out to somebody already. So whoever from NYC wants them let me know. On Jul 3, 2012 2:38 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Hi, it is enough if we receive the power adapters by Saturday, I think. Someone from the wireless team correct me please. (But we dont have many more rooms until then..) That said, Adnan can you freakin' please make sure Hydroxide or someone else going here gets them NOW?! Approximated costs to buy these is 100 USD here :-( cheers, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
I'd need someone from US (preferably NYC) coming to DebCamp/DebConf to do me a favor. AFAIK since it's not available in Europe, could someone buy me a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 in the States and bring it over to DebCamp/DebConf? I'd pay them upon their arrival. So if anyone could do this for me please let me know. P.S: I'm also in doubt if I should get one now or wait for next-gen Icecream Sandwich series, but it's so hard to refuse! _ -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] Internet connection
Internet problem, solved. On given location we have a gigabit switch with link of 1Gbps capacity directly connected to the internet exchange point in Budapest. If network team would like to send any requests, ie (number of needed addresses) I'll give you one of the SARNET people email. My work here is done, who wants to take it from here, Marinko? Javi se na broj 051 211 111, neko ce se sigurno naci u firmi. I naravno, nek' se jave ljudi iz mreznog tima, sa zahtjevom, tj. kolicinom potrebnih adresa, moze i meni na mail. On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Marinko Tarlac mangi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I just responded to the list regarding cables. In case you agree, I can call SARNET (Monday morning) to check with them about internet connection. I know personally mr Brstilo from SARNET and a few other guys. I believe they have optical link to the Banski Dvor and all we will need for testing is optical converter(s) or nothing (in case they already have them). The same day (Monday) the cables can be ordered (and they will arrive at Wednesday - 13th July) ... On 7/9/2011 7:31 PM, Velimir Iveljic wrote: On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Holger Levsenhol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Hi, On Samstag, 9. Juli 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: Please tell me the exact instructions on what you want me to do. All we want is uplink, without any cabling? Please confirm. yes. then we will do the cabling ourself during debcamp. though of course we wouldnt mind if there is already cabling from the supposed-to-be-server room to the talk rooms and the hacklab. but, we are prepared to set this up ourself. (btw, someone was to buy 1000m cat5 cable...) Marinko Tarlac was supposed to do it, i've just emailed him to see what happened. Velimir ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] DebConf11 TV Ad?
As if this continues going this way we might miss the opportunity to have it broadcasting on tv, thus anyone interested in doing *anything* that would be even remotely close to what I explained in that screenplay of mine? http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/TVAd 2011/7/5 Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Leandro and Valessio, Hi Adnan, I don't know who of you two will do this Ad, but whoever it is please to finish it ASAP. I'm not an expert in Synfig (still learning), but I can do my best to finish it ASAP. I guess I could also do a frame-by-frame animation in Inkscape, but it wouldn't be 'edit-friendly'. I wrote a whole screenplay and this is how I was thinking of having it done: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/TVAd My comments on the script: 1. IMO there's too much going on for a 10 second ad. Just reading half of the cities would take up the whole time. I suggest we scrap Part 1. 2. Part 2: The animation you suggest would take too much time; at least 3 seconds per keyword (so that it don't move too fast and can be read properly). I would go with something simple like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21510751/test.mov 3. Part 3: Again, it can be done simpler. I would suggest a fade in with the logo and accompanying text. 4. As for the music; I'm not a musician, maybe someone can help with this? On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Philip Hands p...@hands.com wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:09:14 +0200, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: ... Also we decided to let everybody come to Debian Day, and there's no need for registration any more. While I'm all in favour of letting people avoid pointless registration, it just occurred to me that this may make some sort of difference on the boring admin side of things -- for instance, insurance. I seem to remember that we are not responsible for insurance anyway, but it is probably worth making sure that whoever is providing the cover is made aware that this is no longer a private event, as it will be open to the public on DebianDay. That has been the reason to ask for people to register in the past, so that we can claim that we're not letting the public in, which sometimes makes a big difference to the insurance situation. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] Internet connection
Yes, this is what was agreed. Schedule changed a bit, as I didn't go to Banja Luka starting this month but am going there next week(12th or 13th). Either way, I'll start working on everything once I'm in Banja Luka. The only question I have is, if I set up everything there won't be really anything left for you to do on DebCamp, so how will we approach solving this issue as I don't want to be doing the same thing twice. Also, what date is Holger arriving? On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: Hi, While Holger and I were in Banja Luka, it was agreed that the internet connection to Banski Dvor would be installed and tested a week before DebCamp. Is that still happening? If not, when will it be installed and tested? -- Moray ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] Internet connection
Yes, but I wasn't expecting you to be the one doing this. :) Otherwise it doesn't get done, trust me I'd love if it any different then this. Normally for an internet connection to be made, you have to arrange a date with the ISP and/or phone company some time in advance. I realise this may be easier because mtel are a sponsor, but it's still polite to arrange a fixed date with them, not phone up and say we need this *now*. Who ever said Mtel is sponsor for our internet? From very beginning we said SARNET is our internet provider, over here things don't change once they are agreed: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/BanjaLuka#Network_connectivity_and_technicalities I know this need to be done, by I haven't got to contact them but I'm planning to do that before getting to Banja Luka. I expected one of the local volunteers (not you for everything) to go to Banski Dvor on the arranged date, watch the work happen, and then check the connection -- I think someone even volunteered for this while we were visiting? Yea, I think it's going to be a same procedure as if Mtel was doing it. I don't wanna call local team useless (I'm close tho) but who is eligible for this kind of job? I don't know how feasible this option is, they tend to know very little details about things, I mean how many of them even know which rooms are even going to be used in Banski Dvors? On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Schedule changed a bit, as I didn't go to Banja Luka starting this month but am going there next week(12th or 13th). Yes, but I wasn't expecting you to be the one doing this. :) Normally for an internet connection to be made, you have to arrange a date with the ISP and/or phone company some time in advance. I realise this may be easier because mtel are a sponsor, but it's still polite to arrange a fixed date with them, not phone up and say we need this *now*. The only question I have is, if I set up everything there won't be really anything left for you to do on DebCamp It is pretty important to have the internet connection ready before DebCamp, otherwise we have a lot of angry attendees. (It's not a problem so much for the organisers, but the attendees need this so they can work on the plans they made.) I expected one of the local volunteers (not you for everything) to go to Banski Dvor on the arranged date, watch the work happen, and then check the connection -- I think someone even volunteered for this while we were visiting? -- Moray -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] Internet connection
getting the uplink set up doesnt mean cabling all the rooms in banksy dvor - this is done during debcamp. getting the uplink set up means having a single point somewhere in banksy dvor - where we than can later attach our network hardware to. Ah, it's only getting uplink you're talking about. I thought it was doing the cabling and everything. when was the last time you spoke with sarnet about this? are you sure they know they should set up the link this monday? No I haven't, no they don't have idea about this as I already mentioned I didn't have time to contact them earlier. When was Monday picked as day this needs to be set up? On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Hey, On Samstag, 9. Juli 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: I mean how many of them even know which rooms are even going to be used in Banski Dvors? getting the uplink set up doesnt mean cabling all the rooms in banksy dvor - this is done during debcamp. getting the uplink set up means having a single point somewhere in banksy dvor - where we than can later attach our network hardware to. when was the last time you spoke with sarnet about this? are you sure they know they should set up the link this monday? cheers, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] Internet connection
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Adnan, On Samstag, 9. Juli 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: when was the last time you spoke with sarnet about this? are you sure they know they should set up the link this monday? No I haven't, no they don't have idea about this as I already mentioned I didn't have time to contact them earlier. you are joking, right? No I don't joke when we're talking about this kind of stuff. Please tell me the exact instructions on what you want me to do. All we want is uplink, without any cabling? Please confirm. Again as I previously mentioned, I really didn't get to contact them earlier, but I am about now, I find them to be serious institution and they will do as instructed in matter of hours. during Morays and my visit to Banja Luka you said you would make sure Banksy Dvor will have a 100mbit uplink a week prio debcamp. So whats your plan now? Yes I was, but my plan changed a bit because I decided to go to Banja Luka bit later. I'm going to Banja Luka next week, I'm gonna be there either on 12th or 13th. By last information DIVA team and I are going to a meeting with President, Minister of Science and Technology, Mayor and organizational committee. All the media and press will be present on this meeting there will also be press conference as part of this visit. If this doesn't happen on 12th, then I'm going to Banja Luka on 13th, and my plan for that day is to meet with SARNET team and get internet working in Banski Dvor. Besides internet what I have planned for that day is to go and pick up Phil from Banja Luka airport. So by the plan I have we should have internet in Banski Dvor 5 days before DebCamp instead of a week as originally planned. Sounds good? On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Adnan, On Samstag, 9. Juli 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: when was the last time you spoke with sarnet about this? are you sure they know they should set up the link this monday? No I haven't, no they don't have idea about this as I already mentioned I didn't have time to contact them earlier. you are joking, right? When was Monday picked as day this needs to be set up? during Morays and my visit to Banja Luka you said you would make sure Banksy Dvor will have a 100mbit uplink a week prio debcamp. So whats your plan now? ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] T-shirts
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote: Adnan, From the call with DIVA, I heard that you have arranged all t-shirt printing, and they are just waiting for money. It would be good to know what these plans are. Original plan was that Vanja from local team would take care of this, but he backed out from it all as he's having some private problems. Backup plan was, since DIVA has a lot of contacts from Banja Luka that they gonna find a company and get this sorted. Some questions about this: - How many different designs? (We need normal, volunteer, and video team at least) Colors? I'm not saying this as it was already decided. My idea was to have 3 different shirts, including colors and design. Thoughts? - How many of each design? How many of each size for each design? ^? - What is the total cost, and cost per each? DIVA should have this information. - How long will they take to print? I'm thinking couple of days, max 3? On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote: Adnan, From the call with DIVA, I heard that you have arranged all t-shirt printing, and they are just waiting for money. It would be good to know what these plans are. Some questions about this: - How many different designs? (We need normal, volunteer, and video team at least) Colors? - How many of each design? How many of each size for each design? - What is the total cost, and cost per each? - How long will they take to print? Thanks, - Richard -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 717 days, 6:15 | http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] T-shirts
- How long will they take to print? Even though if needed I think we can do this in a day. On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote: Adnan, From the call with DIVA, I heard that you have arranged all t-shirt printing, and they are just waiting for money. It would be good to know what these plans are. Original plan was that Vanja from local team would take care of this, but he backed out from it all as he's having some private problems. Backup plan was, since DIVA has a lot of contacts from Banja Luka that they gonna find a company and get this sorted. Some questions about this: - How many different designs? (We need normal, volunteer, and video team at least) Colors? I'm not saying this as it was already decided. My idea was to have 3 different shirts, including colors and design. Thoughts? - How many of each design? How many of each size for each design? ^? - What is the total cost, and cost per each? DIVA should have this information. - How long will they take to print? I'm thinking couple of days, max 3? On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote: Adnan, From the call with DIVA, I heard that you have arranged all t-shirt printing, and they are just waiting for money. It would be good to know what these plans are. Some questions about this: - How many different designs? (We need normal, volunteer, and video team at least) Colors? - How many of each design? How many of each size for each design? - What is the total cost, and cost per each? - How long will they take to print? Thanks, - Richard -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 717 days, 6:15 | http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free -- Adnan -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Hotels reservation details
This stupid behaviour must stop. DIVA has signed an agreement to follow instructions from Debian in spending money for DebConf, and that is how we need to proceed. Likewise, I'm not taking part in any sides any more now I'm just being a spectator. So let me remind you, yesterday Richard sent an email explaining how DebConf people slept in school halls on one occasion and how it all doesn't matter. And that we should spend as little money as possible. You were talking to Velimir and he was writing a list of things he needs to talk to DIVA about and questions, again I did not even look at that list. Today we're in DIVA, they talk during those =2 hrs I say 10 words in total, I was just watching. It's all settled it's all good, it's all clear. Velimir and I go out to lunch, 45mins later we read the email that's completely opposite of what was said yesterday when it comes to accommodation! Again, this is how I saw it all as a spectator nothing more, and what I see here is someone needs to get his story straight and stop accusing the other side. We're getting everything that was agreed before, except pools and shuttles. I'm most serious when I ask you this, what is the problem? Don't go into writing essays, clear and loud what is the problem? Yesterday I was the problem, today Velimir is the problem, I wonder who's next. Again I repeat, only doing by *your* requests. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: I now hear that DIVA has made hotel bookings today, ignoring the numbers provided and ignoring Debian's explicit instructions on which hotels to use when. This stupid behaviour must stop. DIVA has signed an agreement to follow instructions from Debian in spending money for DebConf, and that is how we need to proceed. -- Moray -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Hotels reservation details
Ignoring explicit instructions is the problem. If that's the only problem then we don't have a problem. We're slowly getting into 4th day with this problem, we got the facts we got it all on the clear. Wanna rm -rf what happened so far and start over? On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: I'm most serious when I ask you this, what is the problem? Don't go into writing essays, clear and loud what is the problem? Ignoring explicit instructions is the problem. -- Moray -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Shuttles/Buses from Zagreb to Banja Luka cancelled
Idea about Shuttles/Buses going from Zagreb to Banja Luka has been killed and therefor cancelled. It was fairly complicated and would only generate additional costs, but nor was your response about this whole idea so great. So I'd like to inform all those who liked the idea to arrange their own transport from Zagreb to Banja Luka. Please rely on our wiki Getting to Banja Luka http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/TravelInfo#Getting_to_Banja_Luka -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] DayTrip status?
Sounds great for me. I plan to have my folding bike with me like at DebConf in Caceres, so I'd be one of those who would go bicycling. :-) I'm not sure but I think they even have bikes for rent over there, if not we could try making sure they do :) 2011/7/7 Axel Beckert a...@deuxchevaux.org: Hi, On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 03:38:28PM +0200, NVO DIVA wrote: DayTrip will be a picknick on river of Vrbas.Those who want to do rafting can do rafting, others can walk around through canyon and enjoy the nature, or enjoy bicycles or quad motorcycles. For those who don't want to do any of these activities will be able to enjoy food and drinks at the compound which consists of restaurant and a bar. Ending point of those who do rafting will be this place where everybody will be eating/drinking thus nobody will be separated and we should all be at the same spot. Sounds great for me. I plan to have my folding bike with me like at DebConf in Caceres, so I'd be one of those who would go bicycling. :-) Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News | a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list debconf-disc...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] final numbers
Thank you Richard, I'll do the reservations today. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote: The final numbers can be found in the same place they have been updating for the last month or so - they are just saner now: http://rkd.zgib.net/http/debconf/only-reconfirmed/rooms-by-date-2.txt - This is the same thing as was on the whiteboard, just automatically updated. - The uppermost block is for all people and what you want. Expect some more updates overnight and tomorrow morning - going up by two or three. The registration team has dropped everyone who hasn't reconfirmed, entered dates, or paid on time, or other invalid combinations. They can correct with us until we can't fix it anymore. We need to know who to mail for last minute cancellations, date changes, etc - this means the hotel contact information requested a week ago, and the cost structure of that. So right now this means: - 245 people want rooms - Max 243 people in rooms at once - We don't know how many rooms minimum we will need, but please reserve *all* of them (193 rooms total), and we will make attendees happier. - The number of people per day varies greatly, and probably will continue to fluctuate as people have last-minute one-day changes due to changing travel plans. If you want, here is food: http://rkd.zgib.net/http/debconf/only-reconfirmed/food-by-date.txt - richard -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 714 days, 21:26 | http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] final numbers
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote: On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 09:51:21AM +0200, Adnan Hodzic wrote: Thank you Richard, I'll do the reservations today. Can you elaborate? Sorry, seems like I won't be reserving anything today. DIVA said they sent an email to the debconf-team mailing list and until someone replies to that email that they can't do anything on topic of making reservations. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote: On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 09:51:21AM +0200, Adnan Hodzic wrote: Thank you Richard, I'll do the reservations today. Can you elaborate? Are you reserving by room? by person? Will you tell us what rooms you reserve (what types in what hotels, and where they are, if possible), so that we can assign rooms? Also, what will the procedure be for changes? We may already have some to make. Finally, someone just asked me about global people arriving early. If we add them to the room assignment list, can that be handled transparently, or should they make special arrangements? Thanks, - richard -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 715 days, 10:43 | http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DIVA contact info?
If Adnan doesnt come up with a real address, I'd send a query via http://diva.ba/?page_id=8 That is is the real address. Hey Richard, sorry I was meant to reply to this email right but it's been mayhem lately. Is there any way I could get the contact info for DIVA, or financial summaries of there? (financial summaries were part of the DIVA agreement, IIRC). Yes, asking them would be a step forward. I think some attendees may be paying to there, and if we can't know about that, we can't credit it to them. Also, it is pretty important to know if the one sponsor has paid yet - and if we'll be able to use that for our biggest expense, travel sponsorship. AFAIK and last time I asked no one has made any payments, again they are people to ask these kind of questions. You had also mentioned other local sponsors - are any of them giving money to DIVA we can use for our general expenses? This would be very good to know. The other day I had a meeting with them regarding this, they said they haven't received *any* money. Mtel has been invoiced but still didn't get money yet. With Dunav insurance we got the insurance in exchange for sponsorship but I still didn't get any replies to my email regarding this. RedBull, Coca Cola are quiet but I only got negative comments about them sponsoring DebConf so ... yea. Please do contact DIVA regarding this kind of questions as I'm trying to stay out of finances as much as I can. I could give you a phone number of the DIVA's president, but I don't know how much is she going to understand you, either way there will be a Translator during the conference. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Hi Richard, On Freitag, 1. Juli 2011, Richard Darst wrote: Is there any way I could get the contact info for DIVA, or financial summaries of there? (financial summaries were part of the DIVA agreement, IIRC). If Adnan doesnt come up with a real address, I'd send a query via http://diva.ba/?page_id=8 nic.ba's whois service only gives Adnans email address... You had also mentioned other local sponsors - are any of them giving money to DIVA we can use for our general expenses? This would be very good to know. Oh yeah. cheers, Holger -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] DebConf11 TV Ad?
Leandro and Valessio, I don't know who of you two will do this Ad, but whoever it is please to finish it ASAP. I wrote a whole screenplay and this is how I was thinking of having it done: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/TVAd On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Philip Hands p...@hands.com wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:09:14 +0200, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: ... Also we decided to let everybody come to Debian Day, and there's no need for registration any more. While I'm all in favour of letting people avoid pointless registration, it just occurred to me that this may make some sort of difference on the boring admin side of things -- for instance, insurance. I seem to remember that we are not responsible for insurance anyway, but it is probably worth making sure that whoever is providing the cover is made aware that this is no longer a private event, as it will be open to the public on DebianDay. That has been the reason to ask for people to register in the past, so that we can claim that we're not letting the public in, which sometimes makes a big difference to the insurance situation. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Regarding the insurance
It's been 4 days since I sent this email and I haven't got *any* response, does this mean we don't need insurance anymore? On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: This is from email from the insurance company, I need your help to answer these questions ASAP as tomorrow we set up our deadline date to finish the topic of insurance. --- To submit our offer it is essential to provide us with the following: 1 - The duration of the event (from - to) 2 - The list of equipment that would be the subject of insurance (individual value of each item) 3 - Venue event address I) with equipment that would be the subject of insurance we can provide the following hazards: 1 - Transport and shipping of the equipment to the venue 2 - Insurance against risk of fire and other hazards while its installed inside of the object. 3 - Insurance of the equipment in locked rooms of the risks burglary and robbery. II) Participants of the event are insured from the result of unfortunate circumstances (such as accident), and the responsibility of the event organizer for the damages caused to third persons and their property. (For this type of insurance you need a list of participants of the event) --- I would need answers as quickly as possible. -- Adnan -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Media/Newspaper Ads pt2
We had a discussion about Media ads some time ago, now it's time to start talking about them again as I'd like to start the media campaign with the newspapers at the same time we do it with the TV/s stations. These ads will take up a whole page in local newspapers, question I have is are these suitable for newspapers(?): http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Artwork#Ads_.28take_one.29 Also can you make ads that will have messages such as Google in Banja Luka as now we do have people from Google coming over. Maybe have a whole page only/specifically for newspaper ads? -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Regarding the insurance
I did send them link to http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Videoteam/Hardware but after that I got the email and questions I have posted above. Hopefully will get reply soon so hardware can be sent. On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: It's been 4 days since I sent this email and I haven't got *any* response, does this mean we don't need insurance anymore? As was said on IRC, it means that Holger seems to be the only person who possibly knows the hardware details, and he hasn't replied -- Moray ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Regarding the insurance
Yes, we gotta have this finished by the end of this week. On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote: On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 11:30:54PM +0100, Moray Allan wrote: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: It's been 4 days since I sent this email and I haven't got *any* response, does this mean we don't need insurance anymore? As was said on IRC, it means that Holger seems to be the only person who possibly knows the hardware details, and he hasn't replied Holger said ey would be gone this weekend, I think should be around tomorrow (?). - richard -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 713 days, 20:01 | http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Google in Banja Luka
clim...@google.com On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Norman Garcia Aguilar naguil...@gmail.com wrote: Hello team, Im trying to send an email (in behalf of the registration team) to Jesus Climent requesting him to put his arrival/departure date in his penta profile, but i got a smtp error message from his debian.org email, can someone (or Jesus if he is here) give me another contact email? he only have his debian email in penta. Regards, -- Norman Garcia Aguilar ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Regarding the insurance
This is from email from the insurance company, I need your help to answer these questions ASAP as tomorrow we set up our deadline date to finish the topic of insurance. --- To submit our offer it is essential to provide us with the following: 1 - The duration of the event (from - to) 2 - The list of equipment that would be the subject of insurance (individual value of each item) 3 - Venue event address I) with equipment that would be the subject of insurance we can provide the following hazards: 1 - Transport and shipping of the equipment to the venue 2 - Insurance against risk of fire and other hazards while its installed inside of the object. 3 - Insurance of the equipment in locked rooms of the risks burglary and robbery. II) Participants of the event are insured from the result of unfortunate circumstances (such as accident), and the responsibility of the event organizer for the damages caused to third persons and their property. (For this type of insurance you need a list of participants of the event) --- I would need answers as quickly as possible. -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] DebConf11 TV Ad?
We need to finish a DebConf11 TV for RTRS in a 7 day period. Ideally Ad would be from 5 to 8 secs, 10 maximum. If you ask me, ad should/will be as simple as possible, what I could use are ideas and people who have done this before. Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] DebConf11 TV Ad?
Good questions. If you ask me, ad should/will be as simple as possible, what I could use are ideas and people who have done this before. Sounds nice, but we need to decide what the goal of the ad is. Bring general awareness and tell people about Debian Day. As people have no idea what Linux is not to mention Debian and so on. Also we decided to let everybody come to Debian Day, and there's no need for registration any more. Adnan On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: We need to finish a DebConf11 TV for RTRS in a 7 day period. Ideally Ad would be from 5 to 8 secs, 10 maximum. If you ask me, ad should/will be as simple as possible, what I could use are ideas and people who have done this before. Sounds nice, but we need to decide what the goal of the ad is. Some possible goals (of which we should choose at most one): - Get people to come to the main DebConf events? But the main DebConf events aren't aimed at people who didn't already know about Debian. - Get people to come to Debian Day? More sensible, though what happens if a large number of people are persuaded to come and all turn up? :) - Raise awareness of Debian more generally? i.e. Tell people it's a great product, and what it does. - Raise awareness of free software more generally? i.e. Tell people why they should care about free software. -- Moray ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] DebConf11 TV Ad?
The way I thought about this ad was, to have list of cities where it was held so far, then couple of keywords, linux? open source? debian? google? and then date when DebConf wil be held and where. On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Good questions. If you ask me, ad should/will be as simple as possible, what I could use are ideas and people who have done this before. Sounds nice, but we need to decide what the goal of the ad is. Bring general awareness and tell people about Debian Day. As people have no idea what Linux is not to mention Debian and so on. Also we decided to let everybody come to Debian Day, and there's no need for registration any more. Adnan On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: We need to finish a DebConf11 TV for RTRS in a 7 day period. Ideally Ad would be from 5 to 8 secs, 10 maximum. If you ask me, ad should/will be as simple as possible, what I could use are ideas and people who have done this before. Sounds nice, but we need to decide what the goal of the ad is. Some possible goals (of which we should choose at most one): - Get people to come to the main DebConf events? But the main DebConf events aren't aimed at people who didn't already know about Debian. - Get people to come to Debian Day? More sensible, though what happens if a large number of people are persuaded to come and all turn up? :) - Raise awareness of Debian more generally? i.e. Tell people it's a great product, and what it does. - Raise awareness of free software more generally? i.e. Tell people why they should care about free software. -- Moray ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- Adnan -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] DebConf11 TV Ad?
It's interesting how you all talk about it, and we could discuss it until the very deadline. But the question I have is who will do/make this ad? On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Velimir Iveljic veli...@foolcontrol.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Philip Hands p...@hands.com wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:29:14 +0200, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: The way I thought about this ad was, to have list of cities where it was held so far, then couple of keywords, linux? open source? debian? google? and then date when DebConf wil be held and where. Only a suggestion from someone who knows little about advertising, but ... How about we rearrange the content on the http://debconf.org/ page, so that DebianDay is first and most prominent, with the date and location emphasised, and then make sure that that if only one thing from the Ad make any impact, it's that URL, or at least the phrase Debian Conference Anyone that is really interested in debconf proper should manage to read past the blurb about DebianDay. I note that debconf.org is first google hit for debconf, deb conf, and debian conf, debian conference etc., so it's quite likely to be where any hits this Ad generates will end up, even if people don't remember the URL. If they first try 'debian' without the 'conf', they'll get to debian.org, which, if they see the link, will then take them to debian11.debconf.org, which if we're going to be newbie friendly should probably also have a DebianDay link top centre (rather than hidden on the left). Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team +1 -- Velimir -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] DebConf11 TV Ad?
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor d...@fifthhorseman.net wrote: Hi Adnan-- What language will this spot be in? On 06/29/2011 09:29 AM, Adnan Hodzic wrote: The way I thought about this ad was, to have list of cities where it was held so far, then couple of keywords, The full list of cities where debconf has been held, at one city per second, is already the full spot :( linux? Debian isn't all Linux any more, though this is probably not an unreasonable association. We are more universally dependent on GNU, though (even our kFreeBSD ports rely on GNU), so we should probably throw in GNU if we're doing associated keywords. open source? *cough cough* Free Software please. Freedom matters. I don't mind Open Source as part of the phrase Free and Open Source Software. But we have the DFSG, not the DOSSG. debian? This seems reasonable, yes :) google? google? really? if i had 10 seconds to explain anything about debian and/or debconf, i can't imagine how Google would take up any of it. . and then date when DebConf wil be held and where. yes, this seems critical. If we're trying to encourage people to come to Debian Day (which i think is a nice idea), maybe we want some thing about learning, meeting people, workshops, etc? Velimir (since you're managing debian day), what sort of noise would you make about debian day if you had a handful of seconds to make it? Bring general awareness and tell people about Debian Day. As people have no idea what Linux is not to mention Debian and so on. eh? Not mention Debian in a spot about DebConf? i'm not sure i understand what you're implying here, or why that would make any sense at all. Regards, --dkg ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team google? google? really? if i had 10 seconds to explain anything about debian and/or debconf, i can't imagine how Google would take up any of it. We're having a talk on Debian Day Debian in the enterprise. A Google case study that's by two Google employees. Which will be more then important to also mention in our ad as we're using reverse approach to advertise Debian here. No one knows what Debian is, but they all know what Google is, and if we can tell something about Debian through Google then even better. -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] DebConf11 TV Ad?
Awesome, this is great. We'll let some more time pass so people can give their opinion and suggestions/ideas and then I'll give you the screenplay as I wanna give it more time to generate inside of my head :) On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/6/29 Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com 2011/6/29 Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org Great, I was just making sure there are people who are willing to do this ad, as if no one showed interested it would have to be me. Now that we have this concluded we can go back to discussion. Valessio, Leonardo once we have all of this concluded how much time would you need to have it completed? 12, 24hours? As an example: http://blip.tv/file/get/UbuntuNicaragua-SoyUbuntu485.ogv This took me 12 hours to make from scratch (about two days work). It really depends on the content of the video. If you want to do something fancy with animations, background music and such, it will take more time. If you just want three or four frames with some relevant text it can be done pretty fast. 2011/6/29 Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: It's interesting how you all talk about it, and we could discuss it until the very deadline. But the question I have is who will do/make this ad? I can help. Are there any specifications for the ad? On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Velimir Iveljic veli...@foolcontrol.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Philip Hands p...@hands.com wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:29:14 +0200, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: The way I thought about this ad was, to have list of cities where it was held so far, then couple of keywords, linux? open source? debian? google? and then date when DebConf wil be held and where. Only a suggestion from someone who knows little about advertising, but ... How about we rearrange the content on the http://debconf.org/ page, so that DebianDay is first and most prominent, with the date and location emphasised, and then make sure that that if only one thing from the Ad make any impact, it's that URL, or at least the phrase Debian Conference Anyone that is really interested in debconf proper should manage to read past the blurb about DebianDay. I note that debconf.org is first google hit for debconf, deb conf, and debian conf, debian conference etc., so it's quite likely to be where any hits this Ad generates will end up, even if people don't remember the URL. If they first try 'debian' without the 'conf', they'll get to debian.org, which, if they see the link, will then take them to debian11.debconf.org, which if we're going to be newbie friendly should probably also have a DebianDay link top centre (rather than hidden on the left). Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team +1 -- Velimir -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- Adnan -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Google in Banja Luka
Thank you for those who showed support to have one such lecture, as I find it to be absolutely necessary and that we will only have gain from one such event. Regarding travel I think our budget allows 500€, but this needs checking for actual numbers in the budget. Holger, Please check this number for me, I just sent them an email that we will sponsor their accommodation/food + travel and told them to register. Besides everything, I think Guido and Jesus are doing us a favor by doing this talk and not charging for the talk but just asking for the sponsorship options. AFAIK both of them are DD's and have been attending DebConf's while Jesus has even organized one in Helsinki (DebConf5). On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Hi Adnan, given the political situation I'm absolutly in favor of giving the(se) speaker(s) sponsored accom+food. Regarding travel I think our budget allows 500€, but this needs checking for actual numbers in the budget. Even if (I think) its somewhat silly, I acknowledge that having a google talk on the debianday schedule will boost (local) promo and perception. cheers, Holger -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DIVA financial status
Hey Richard, I am working on making sure that DC11's finances are in order. Could you send me a list of DebConf's current balances and transactions at DIVA? Itemized by transaction is ideal, if it is easy to do. Off-list is fine if it is itemized to the point of containing attendee names or sponsor names and amounts. Since Government has decided to basically cover all the costs they haven't made any payments to DIVA regarding DebConf11 yet. When it comes to all our local sponsors we got, it's on this weeks plan to get all the money from them, as there should couple of new sponsors so this process hasn't been finished yet either. I'll send you all the information you asked for once I myself have more information. I don't know of anything that should be there right now, but would be interested in knowing if the one invoice was deposited or any attendee payments have been made. It may be too early for this, but either way no payments from attendees has been made. On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote: Adnan, I am working on making sure that DC11's finances are in order. Could you send me a list of DebConf's current balances and transactions at DIVA? Itemized by transaction is ideal, if it is easy to do. Off-list is fine if it is itemized to the point of containing attendee names or sponsor names and amounts. I don't know of anything that should be there right now, but would be interested in knowing if the one invoice was deposited or any attendee payments have been made. Thanks, - richard -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 698 days, 4:58 | http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] t-shirt colors and amounts
Any progress on information about bag printing? We just need the final number for them as well and they'll get printed. As it seems right now they'll get printed by the same company that'll do our shirts. Adnna On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Vanja, can you also ask about attendee bags? We promised our sponsors that we would give bags with their logos to the attendees... Any progress on information about bag printing? -- Moray ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Google in Banja Luka
For awhile Minister and I thought it would be great if we could have Google in Banja Luka what this would mean is to have a lecture that's going to talk why Google uses Linux/Debian etc ... This lecture would be held on Debian Day and Minister and I believe it would get local companies attention and reverse technique to get people interested in what's Debian as everybody know's what Google is. I found couple of interested Debian people that are Googlers and would do this talk, however both of them asked what the sponsorship options are. We would give them free accommodation/food, but since Debian is covering the travel reimbursement I was wondering what your stance is on this one? They are not asking to be paid for their lecture, just wondering what the sponsorship options are as they are obviously late for sponsored registration. One of the question that comes up is why are we supposed to pay their attendance fees, they are Google employees! It wasn't Google that said we want those guys there to promote our technologies, it is us that need their help, btw they would ask absence from their position during their visit. There are two interested people for this talk/lecture: Guido Trotter and Jesus Climent Guido would be able to stay until Tuesday (26th) while Jesus would be able to stay throughout the conference. Is Debian willing/able to sponsor travel for either of these? Let me know what you think, -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Google in Banja Luka
Arthur Liu will be coming to DebConf, but when I asked him regarding this question he didn't offer himself for this talk so I believe he had a reason why he didn't do that and we should respect that opinion. He mentioned Guido and offered to send email on Google's internal list regarding this. From political/local perspective this is almost a must, during last meeting with Minister of Science and Technology (with Holger, Moray and me) he expressed as he'd love to see this happen. Adnan On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz ti...@debian.org wrote: Hi Adnan, On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:27:33 +0200, Adnan Hodzic wrote For awhile Minister and I thought it would be great if we could have Google in Banja Luka what this would mean is to have a lecture that's going to talk why Google uses Linux/Debian etc ... This lecture would be held on Debian Day and Minister and I believe it would get local companies attention and reverse technique to get people interested in what's Debian as everybody know's what Google is. I found couple of interested Debian people that are Googlers and would do this talk, however both of them asked what the sponsorship options are. We would give them free accommodation/food, but since Debian is covering the travel reimbursement I was wondering what your stance is on this one? They are not asking to be paid for their lecture, just wondering what the sponsorship options are as they are obviously late for sponsored registration. One of the question that comes up is why are we supposed to pay their attendance fees, they are Google employees! It wasn't Google that said we want those guys there to promote our technologies, it is us that need their help, btw they would ask absence from their position during their visit. There are two interested people for this talk/lecture: Guido Trotter and Jesus Climent Guido would be able to stay until Tuesday (26th) while Jesus would be able to stay throughout the conference. Is Debian willing/able to sponsor travel for either of these? Let me know what you think, I think that talk has a low level of relevance for Debian, so I´m not in favor of making an exception and spending extra money on it. However, if it is really important for political purposes a and/or for local community, we may try to find someone from Google who is already registered to DC11 and contact s/he/them... That´s my opinion. Regards, -- Tiago Bortoletto Vaz http://tiagovaz.org 0xA504FECA - http://pgp.mit.edu ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Final numbers
I asked this question last night but no one answered. Now when you registered can you still register for sponsored accommodation? It should've been disabled but I'm asking because number keeps increasing and I don't see pro/corporate category get more attendees ... so I hope it was disabled Adnan On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote: Hi, DebConf12 team, take note. When the global team is prodding on lots of little details about when we need to know things by, it's usually for a reason. I burned a lot of goodwill trying to prod on this kind of stuff, with the answer being oh it will be fine. If we had known about these logistics earlier, we could have designed our registration process around them, like we did DC10's registration process. On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 02:39:51PM +, Adnan Hodzic wrote: During this whole time of registrations I've been keep a close eye on numbers, mostly on http://rkd.zgib.net/http/debconf/registration-data.txt and last night we had a meeting where we concluded that reconfirmation date should be 3rd of July. After careful consideration and talking to other parties we need somethings changed. During our lunch with minister, he asked us when we could have the final numbers, after Moray Holger and I consulted we told him 3 to max 4 weeks. Three weeks mark is just today and I believe we still don't have what's called final numbers. If you think final numbers are this easy to come by, you misunderstand DebConf a bit. Hotels have a reason to be exact (and what I wanted to know about earlier). To do this, we have the reconfirmation process, to cap the number of sponsored people (and also help us establish our budget). After reconfirmation, we might still lose some sponsored people, or have their dates change. We might also have professional people register which we'd *try* to accommodate if we have the time, and the hotel will let us. As for total attendees, that is much more flakey. Lots will register, many won't show up. Even more will come for a day or two only. For the past few confs, my philosophy has been that the number of people requesting a room is a more accurate measure of the scale of a DebConf, since those are the ones you'll have around 24/7, and you know will come. If you take a look at http://rkd.zgib.net/http/debconf/registration-data.txt you'll see that we have something that could be our final number (444) which is fine but if you take a closer look at these numbers first thing you'll notice is our of these numbers 138 have not even selected what country they are coming from. Now, government, hotels and everybody is highly flexible but they want *exact* numbers, and we're all but being exact right now. If anything I want exact numbers, in a week or two we'll have press release with the president and I wan't to be able to tell him exact number of who's coming. These numbers mean a whole lot to us, for As for this kind of thing, they won't know anything exact. For press release purposes, if they want something exact then report what's on the list and pretend it's exact. Might be better to say more than 400 people or whatever. example visas, our attendees who have visa problems will be granted visas upon arrival to our country, how can they be given a visa if they haven't even set which country they are coming from? Also Arrival dates are pretty empty. How are we supposed to even send those shuttles if we don't even have these dates? Same case with Tshirts and numerous other things. Wouldn't they get a visa by showing the border guard their passport? If they need visa help, they would have contacted visa@ and that's fine. Or are you thinking they _have_ to be on your list to get into the country? About the shuttles, yes, and that's what we were trying to say about waiting for registration dates. *Dates* are only really required for people staying in hotels, and how would we know what airport they are coming from, or even _if_ they are coming from an airport? Perhaps the wiki pages are a better idea? On wiki I wrote about accommodation (http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Accommodation) I put how much beds we'll get from each hotel, when I spoke to director of Bosna I told him there will be 60 to 80 people in first week, now according to our numbers there will be 120. This is fine, but as long as it's not some random people signing up for DebCamp just like that. I personally know couple of Bosnians that registered for DebCamp because they said why not? In the end number of people is not a problem, none of it is, but all we need is exact numbers so I know how to deal with each situation. IE, for hotel it makes a huge difference if it's 60 or 120 people in first week, and for government it also makes a huge difference as it's a difference between ~100k km. All I can say is what I said above. We'll have to do the best we can
Re: [Debconf-team] Draft confirmation message
Well I'd like to consult with you before we have this sent out. First of all I'd like to see a line that will say to tidy up your registration details, from country you're coming from and etc ... So besides reconfirmation this ends up as data sanitation process as well. Tomorrow I'm having a meeting with DIVA to discuss final numbers and we'll be stuck in rut again. I'd like for this reconfirmation to be sent asap, but then again I wouldn't like to be sent too early so data from reconfirmations turn irrelevant. My only worry is that accommodation we have right now won't be enough (http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Accommodation) In case we need more accommodation now it wouldn't be a problem to find more space, but after July 3rd it might. In case we're fine with all of that I'm fine with reconfirmation date being the 3rd of July. Adnan On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: There's a draft confirmation-of-attendance message at: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/ConfirmationMessage We need to make sure we agree on the deadline in the message (3 July, but the local team need to confirm this is fine), then get this sent out as soon as possible. I've pasted in a few of the previous years' versions of this below (the ones I found on a quick search), if you want to compare. -- Moray === Confirmation Period --- The time for DebConf4 is coming. Less than a month to begin the fifth edition of the Debian Conference [1]. The registration period is almost over. Everybody that have registered should be receiving, in the next moments, a confirmation email. By receiving this email **you are NOT yet confirmed**. You should enter the URL pointed by that email to update your data and confirm your registration. Please! Note that unconfirmed registrations **will not** be validated. The confirmation period starts now and goes until May 2nd. If you haven't received any emails asking for confirmation (or have lost yours), please, enter the following URL: http://www.debconf.org/debconf4/register/ ... and select the Confirm your registration option. After we have collected the confirmation data, we'll send another round of emails (and we'll publish new data on our website) with important information for confirmed attendees. == DebConf6 will take place from the 14 May to the 22th 2006 in Oaxtepec, Mexico. It is preceded by an unofficial work camp called debcamp, From=20the 6th to the 12th of May.=20 On the 13th May, Debian Day, an information day for users, the press and Important People will be held. This will be mostly in spanish, and partly translated. This is the final call for registrations or, if you already registered, for reconfirmation that you will attend the conference. The deadline for the reconfirmation is 03. April 2006, 23:59:59 UTC! If you have not yet registered yourself and want to participate this years Debian Conference then please go to [1] *now* and enter your data. Then follow the rest of this mail to confirm your attendance. If you have already registered then go to [2], log in to your account and make sure to check the I confirm my attendance checkbox if you still plan to come. If your plans have changed, or you don't check that checkbox, you will not be considered for free accommodation and food. You would still be able to attend debconf, but you would have to pay fully for your lodgings and meals at the hotel.=20 Lets repeat that, as this is important: You *NEED* to confirm that you attend DebConf before the 3th April 2006, 23:59:59 UTC or YOU MUST PAY YOURSELF. Please also add your flight number and arrival/departure date (at the airport). We need to know these for booking/planning the hotel. You can check for other people arriving at the same time at [3]. Check the keep my flight info private if you don't want your information to be visible to other participants. It is highly unlikely that we will be able to hand out notebooks this year. We recommend that you bring your own if you want to use the network for work. Please also read the mail about room allocation, you can find it at [4]. == Reminder: DebConf7 Reconfirmation Phase --- We would like to ask you to reconfirm your attendance by May 3. Please go to https://penta.debconf.org/submission/dc7/person and make sure to check the Reconfirm Attendance checkbox (General tab) if you still plan to come. If your plans changed or you don't check that checkbox, you will not be considered for the sponsored accommodation and food (if you asked for it). You can still attend debconf, but you will have to pay in full for your lodging and meals at the venue. If you haven't
Re: [Debconf-team] Draft confirmation message
Please don't make this harder on me as it already is. Government and Hotels want *exact* data. IMO which is their right if they are welcoming somebody in their country and their facilities the least they can have is information about who they are welcoming. Adnan On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 04:03:23PM +0200, Adnan Hodzic wrote: Well I'd like to consult with you before we have this sent out. First of all I'd like to see a line that will say to tidy up your registration details, from country you're coming from and etc ... So besides reconfirmation this ends up as data sanitation process as well. In previous years, we never needed to know from which country every attendee is coming. What makes it different this year? ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Ho Ho Ho
If doesn't make your day I don't know what will. Our gold sponsor Mtel has decided to give *every* DebConf11 attendee a phone number and package along with it! I got too excited so I'm not sure I got it right but I think this is the package they mentioned: http://www.mtel.ba/menu/2265 Comments? :) Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] [Debconf-discuss] Ho Ho Ho
It's hard to believe such chaos rose from Mtel's good intentions. Mtel is *only* going to give you a SIM card and what you get with it is phone number and XX minutes so you can talk to other people without them charging you and XX mb of data transfer (3g). You're not gonna get the actual handsets. They'll give it to us, it's up to you if you want to take it or not. You won't give any personal information once you get the SIM card, there are no obligations, it's just for you to be able to talk to each other via phone while you're here, that's it. Once you used all the data and calling minutes, you're out you can throw the SIM away. No contracts no nothing. They got onto this idea after DebConf11 trailer that is after Moray's and Holger's visit after discussion was started where you could get a phone number and some calling minutes. This discussion got to their CEO and in the end they decided they could give you away these phone numbers for free. This was their nice gesture, and if they heard about this whole topic and what was discussed in it they would prolly pull back the offer. I don't know if you can understand it or not, but no one is trying to impose something on you, no one is trying to sell anything you don't wanna buy, in plain English no one is trying to screw you over. Government, sponsors, local team and I are giving our best to provide you with experience you won't forget, but it seems to me the more good things we do you only take the wrong way. Get it into your head, we're not some banana country, we're on our way to make it into EU. One of the goals of DebConf11 is to break these stereotypes and whatever else it is. Moray and Holger were here, please ask them I'm sure they got here with certain level of prejudice, but ask them with what opinion and thought did they leave? In meantime do the reality check and just ... chillax. You have no idea how hard it's to work with unneeded situations like this one. If in doubt about something, talk to somebody else before just going mental on the mailing list. Adnan On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Dejan Marjanovic dejan.marjano...@gmail.com wrote: I think they will hand out so called FREND packages, they cost about 25euro here in retail. It is basically prepaid SIM with 2.5e credits, phone (Samsung or Alcatel or Huawei), charger, and instructions. Adnan, if you can, do ask for Alcatel because they are much more advanced than Samsung. They have SD card slot and camera, therefore I think they can be connected to laptop and act as a modem. You can use SIM card in any phone you want, but you cannot use other network SIM in the mobile phone you get (I can unlock them btw :]). Here's a pic: http://k.min.us/idm976.jpg -- Dejan Marjanović Webarto • web design + development http://webarto.com • i...@webarto.com +387 61 05 85 05 • +387 66 05 33 32 ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip
Nope. In case they haven't contacted any of us just ping them. Adnan On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Hi Moray, hi Adnan, did the tourist office get back to you about the daytrip? cheers, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Final numbers
During this whole time of registrations I've been keep a close eye on numbers, mostly on http://rkd.zgib.net/http/debconf/registration-data.txt and last night we had a meeting where we concluded that reconfirmation date should be 3rd of July. After careful consideration and talking to other parties we need somethings changed. During our lunch with minister, he asked us when we could have the final numbers, after Moray Holger and I consulted we told him 3 to max 4 weeks. Three weeks mark is just today and I believe we still don't have what's called final numbers. If you take a look at http://rkd.zgib.net/http/debconf/registration-data.txt you'll see that we have something that could be our final number (444) which is fine but if you take a closer look at these numbers first thing you'll notice is our of these numbers 138 have not even selected what country they are coming from. Now, government, hotels and everybody is highly flexible but they want *exact* numbers, and we're all but being exact right now. If anything I want exact numbers, in a week or two we'll have press release with the president and I wan't to be able to tell him exact number of who's coming. These numbers mean a whole lot to us, for example visas, our attendees who have visa problems will be granted visas upon arrival to our country, how can they be given a visa if they haven't even set which country they are coming from? Also Arrival dates are pretty empty. How are we supposed to even send those shuttles if we don't even have these dates? Same case with Tshirts and numerous other things. On wiki I wrote about accommodation (http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Accommodation) I put how much beds we'll get from each hotel, when I spoke to director of Bosna I told him there will be 60 to 80 people in first week, now according to our numbers there will be 120. This is fine, but as long as it's not some random people signing up for DebCamp just like that. I personally know couple of Bosnians that registered for DebCamp because they said why not? In the end number of people is not a problem, none of it is, but all we need is exact numbers so I know how to deal with each situation. IE, for hotel it makes a huge difference if it's 60 or 120 people in first week, and for government it also makes a huge difference as it's a difference between ~100k km. Since last night, I've talked to everybody (diva, govt, hotels) and I told you they want their numbers ASAP, now since ASAP was a vogue term now they would like to have final numbers by next Monday (13th). I also have a proposition on how we're going to get these numbers. We send out an email to all the registered participants to fill in all the fields they can! One of the most important ones being to fill out the country they are coming from, in case they are coming to DebCamp their plan for same one, accommodation, dietary, tshirt size and so on. As I said their DebConf badge cards will play big role, and it's only one dependency after another. In case person doesn't fill these fields by the time of reconfirmation email they automatically get disqualified for sponsorship. Also I suggest we have reconfirmation email sent on 24-th (June) as one month before DebConf should be a good remainder and when they should have an idea if they can come or not. Again if you have any other suggestions let me know. Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] debian day
Adnan, will we have the presidents keynote on DebianDay or on the first day of DebConf? Yes he is, once we're 100% set I'll have this sent to him so he can have it booked :) Also did you manage to get someone from Google to have that lecture? Adnan On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Hi, does debianday.org redirect to the right page now? how is the schedule for that day coming along? Adnan, will we have the presidents keynote on DebianDay or on the first day of DebConf? cheers, Holger ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] debian day
Also did you manage to get someone from Google to have that lecture? Ok disregard this one, I just contacted someone ;) Adnan On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Adnan, will we have the presidents keynote on DebianDay or on the first day of DebConf? Yes he is, once we're 100% set I'll have this sent to him so he can have it booked :) Also did you manage to get someone from Google to have that lecture? Adnan On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Hi, does debianday.org redirect to the right page now? how is the schedule for that day coming along? Adnan, will we have the presidents keynote on DebianDay or on the first day of DebConf? cheers, Holger ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] debian day
Also did you manage to get someone from Google to have that lecture? you said you contacted someone. did that someone already reply+confirm or whats the status? Yes, I just contacted someone and am expecting reply from that person. Will reply once I have more info. Adnan On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: On Mittwoch, 8. Juni 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: Adnan, will we have the presidents keynote on DebianDay or on the first day of DebConf? Yes he is, once we're 100% set I'll have this sent to him so he can have it booked :) so we'll get him for debian day (and not the first day of debconf proper). fine with me, I just wanted this question to be answered. Also did you manage to get someone from Google to have that lecture? you said you contacted someone. did that someone already reply+confirm or whats the status? cheers, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Final numbers
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Now, government, hotels and everybody is highly flexible but they want *exact* numbers, and we're all but being exact right now. but later you say Also I suggest we have reconfirmation email sent on 24-th (June) as one month before DebConf should be a good remainder and when they should have an idea if they can come or not. Obviously until after the confirmation stage, we cannot have truly 'exact' numbers. Even then, some people will probably cancel later. What we *can* get immediately is maximum numbers. Well for beginning having maximum numbers wouldn't be a bad start either. These numbers mean a whole lot to us, for example visas, I hope that we already have a list for this, people who need visas should have contacted the visa team by now. So do I. our attendees who have visa problems will be granted visas upon arrival to our country, how can they be given a visa if they haven't even set which country they are coming from? We should assume that people who haven't set a country, and haven't contacted us, aren't asking for visa help. Their ID will tell their name and their country. In case they have the right name but border police doesn't have the country that matches that name they won't be able to get in. Also Arrival dates are pretty empty. How are we supposed to even send those shuttles if we don't even have these dates? Same case with Tshirts and numerous other things. We haven't yet sent reminders to demand that people fill in the date data. That traditionally happens as part of the confirmation stage. (If they haven't set a t-shirt size, we can just choose one for them, that's not a major issue.) Yea, this is not an issue now don't know why I mentioned it. I personally know couple of Bosnians that registered for DebCamp because they said why not? In the end number of people is not a problem, none of it is, but all we need is exact numbers so I know how to deal with each situation. If you think there are many cases like that, please arrange (probably in conjunction with the travel sponsorship team, who already look at these issues) to weed them out -- sponsorship should be for people with at least a genuine interest. Knowing the mentality of Balkans people there has to be more then couple of cases. Since Velimir is in travel team maybe he could do this with somebody else. Since last night, I've talked to everybody (diva, govt, hotels) and I told you they want their numbers ASAP, now since ASAP was a vogue term now they would like to have final numbers by next Monday (13th). Since you have only just announced this deadline, it's too late to get real true final 'final numbers' for Monday. Even if we announce now that people must reconfirm before Monday, a significant number of people will be away from their email and won't see the message in time. I've been talking about ASAP for quite some time now, it's not my fault that some don't take that ASAP more seriously. But I'll talk to everybody as I too agree this is too soon. In meantime if we could even have projections of maximum/mean/minimum numbers that would be good. I also have a proposition on how we're going to get these numbers. We send out an email to all the registered participants to fill in all the fields they can! That is planned. We discussed it in the meeting, and Richard Darst is going to fix his script for this from last year. Yep, I'm aware of this, if it would be possible to have this finished by next Monday that would be it for now. In case person doesn't fill these fields by the time of reconfirmation email they automatically get disqualified for sponsorship. Yes, it's usual for us to have a list of 'compulsary' fields (notably the date ones). Agreed. We'll just wait for Darst to finish the scripts and for that email to be sent out, and maybe on next meeting we could come up with new date for reconfirmation email. Adnan On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Now, government, hotels and everybody is highly flexible but they want *exact* numbers, and we're all but being exact right now. but later you say Also I suggest we have reconfirmation email sent on 24-th (June) as one month before DebConf should be a good remainder and when they should have an idea if they can come or not. Obviously until after the confirmation stage, we cannot have truly 'exact' numbers. Even then, some people will probably cancel later. What we *can* get immediately is maximum numbers. These numbers mean a whole lot to us, for example visas, I hope that we already have a list for this, people who need visas should have contacted the visa team by now. our attendees who have visa problems will be granted
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] Network equipment
Out of the ones you listed I've got good contacts with Genelec. Adnan Sent using Android (Nexus S) On Jun 8, 2011 5:44 PM, Marinko Tarlać mangi...@gmail.com wrote: I'll see with Sarnet what can be done and do they have any equipment for this purpose. I'm not sure but I think they will provide a RJ45 socket and that is it. We need to find all other equipment. I wanted to say that devices which can support openwrt are not so easy to find here. As I know, the distributors are working mostly with Asus, Netgear, UBNT, D-Link and TP Link equipment. Flashing devices can be the problem (Warranty void if removed) so dealers won't be interested for borrowing. Building the permanent wireless network inside is a good idea but as I know the venue should be renovated next year. Also, the good idea would be to connect DIVA and dealers directly without any resellers between them (KIMTEC Vitez, PIN Computers Banja Luka, Genelec Tuzla, etc) so the the prices would be better (which means more money for food and beer :) ). On 06/08/2011 04:51 PM, Adnan Hodzic wrote: Also, have you talked to SARNET regarding this, they are the ones providing us with uplink, so they also might help us out with equipment. Marinko try contacting SARNET just say you're in front of DebConf11. Adnan On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Philip Handsp...@hands.com wrote: On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 15:23:17 +0200, Marinko Tarlaćmangi...@gmail.com wrote: OpenWRT APs are rare here and I'll see what can be found. Just in case you'd misunderstood -- they don't have to have OpenWRT on them when we get them -- we normally end up flashing them at the start of DebCamp, so they just need to be known to work with OpenWRT: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/ I note that Torouter are focusing on this at present: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/buffalo/wzr-hp-g300h which seems like a decent spec, but is perhaps more than we need -- on the other hand, if they don't cost too much more than whatever else we might buy, these will be worth keeping or will be tempting items to sell, or to give out as prizes at the end of DebConf. BTW would the government appreciate having the building wired for WiFi? If so, we could try to make a more permanent job of it. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] [Debconf-discuss] T-Shirt decision!
Shirt I like the most is: dc11 sh 03 blue right If I would have to make the decision right now that be my final choice. Other shirts I like are: vpdc11 right v2pdc11 blue right Adnan On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Mirza Alibalic ma...@foolcontrol.org wrote: My votes goes to : 1. Dc11 spacefun right, black 2. Dc11 sh 03 blue, right 3. Dc11 yellow, left Mirza On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Velimir Iveljic veli...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: Before additional items, in addition to the t-shirts: we promised sponsors that we would put their logos on the conference bags. So someone needs to investigate printing conference bags cheaply. That probably means thin bags like at DebConf10, rather than the bulky bags many academic/commercial conferences distribute. (The easiest would be if the same people who print the t-shirts can do them.) I will ping the guy that has contact with the current t-shirt printing store. -- Velimir ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Magazine Ad is ready!
Um ... guys can we just have this Ad sent already? Adnan Sent using Android (Nexus S) On Jun 4, 2011 11:22 PM, Hector Oron hector.o...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I think we have not submitted the Ad to the magazine yet, so I have let them know. 2011/5/30 Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com: On 5/30/11, Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org wrote: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21510751/dc11_ad3_C.svg I have passed onto them the URL above (which does not contain text), let me know if that is wrong URL ASAP in case I need to correct myself. Best regards, -- Héctor Orón -.. . -... .. .- -. -.. . ...- . .-.. --- .--. . .-. Our Sun unleashes tremendous flares expelling hot gas into the Solar System, which one day will disconnect us. -- Day DVB-T stop working nicely Video flare: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100510.html ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] T-Shirt decision!
The same date we have the final number who's getting sponsorship and once we have final number of this years attendees. 2-3 weeks? Adnan Sent using Android (Nexus S) On Jun 4, 2011 11:08 PM, Hector Oron hector.o...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2011/5/25 Velimir Iveljic veli...@foolcontrol.org: As we approach this years DebConf, stuff like deciding on the T-Shirt design needs to be done :) The proposed designs are here: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/T-Shirts Which is the final date on which we can start telling our potential sponsors that they will not be in the T-shirt? Cheers, -- Héctor Orón -.. . -... .. .- -. -.. . ...- . .-.. --- .--. . .-. Our Sun unleashes tremendous flares expelling hot gas into the Solar System, which one day will disconnect us. -- Day DVB-T stop working nicely Video flare: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100510.html ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list debconf-disc...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Press release following DebConf/government meeting
Maybe Banja Luka, Republika Srpska, Bosnia and Herzegovina? Would be just like Frankfurt, Hesse, Germany That's exactly how it should be. Banja Luka, Republika Srpska, Bosnia and Herzegovina Adnan On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Christian PERRIER bubu...@debian.org wrote: Quoting Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org): Correct literal translations for the name would be Serb Republic or Serbian Republic. Both of these are problematic because they can be confused with Serbia - Banja Luka is NOT in Serbia. Republic of Srpska is a mistranslation, despite its apparent official use by the Serb Republic's government. The only universally safe option is to leave the name untranslated as Republika Srpska, which seems to be what English-language news outlets are doing. I recommend the following: s/Government of Serbia/Government of the Bosnian Serb Republic/ s/Banja Luka, Serbia/Banja Luka, Bosnia and Herzegovina/ Maybe Banja Luka, Republika Srpska, Bosnia and Herzegovina? Would be just like Frankfurt, Hesse, Germany s/Republic of Srpska (Serbia Republic)/Republika Srpska (Bosnian Serb Republic)/ s/Republic of Srpska/the Republika Srpska/ +1, despite some advices that could say just use the name use by local authorities even if it is technically wrong. The Wikipedia page even mentions that Republika Srpska is what's most commonly used in English-speaking news sources such as newspapers (and those know how to be very careful about names). Indeed, as we have some contacts with the RoS government, we should maybe explain them how Republic of Srpska sounds weird to our very picky ears..:-) (*just* kidding) ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Press release following DebConf/government meeting
Could you just paste the whole thing here again once you have it all corrected? Adnan On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Jeremiah Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com wrote: DebConf is the Debian Project's developer conference. In addition to a full schedule of technical, social and policy talks, DebConf provides an opportunity for developers, contributors and other interested people to meet in person and work together more closely. It has taken place annually since 2000 in locations as varied as Canada, Finland and Mexico. Is there a particular reason for reverting to an old version here? I'm not sure about other changes, but we've at least cycled the country list over time to represent recent destinations. -- Moray ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Photos from Banja Luka
Remainder of good times, great photos :) Adnan On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: I've uploaded photos by Holger and me from our trip to Banja Luka (plus some from Zagreb airport): https://gallery.debconf.org/v/debconf11/trailer/ They include photos from the venue, the proposed dinner venue (aqua park), and the proposed day trip venue (canyon). They're not labelled, but feel free to ask me on IRC if you can't work out what's what. -- Moray ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Travel Sponsorship team
Moray, Adnan, I thought we made you agree that you already had too many jobs, and that you would now delegate more?? ;) I'm trying! :) On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Velimir Iveljic veli...@foolcontrol.org wrote: I am on the team so i can tell you everything you need to know without you being bothered with it too much ;) Sounds good ;) Adnan On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Velimir Iveljic veli...@foolcontrol.org wrote: I am on the team so i can tell you everything you need to know without you being bothered with it too much ;) Velimir On May 29, 2011 5:27 PM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Could I be added to this as well, if anything for audit purposes. Adnan, I thought we made you agree that you already had too many jobs, and that you would now delegate more?? ;) -- Moray ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Travel Sponsorship team
Could I be added to this as well, if anything for audit purposes. Tnx, Adnan Sent using Android (Nexus S) On May 28, 2011 9:46 PM, Joerg Jaspert jo...@ganneff.de wrote: Hello world, as I got kicked into doing this job 2 meetings ago: The travel sponsorship team just started its work. This year it consists of Me, Myself and I (obviously) Martin Würtele Neil McGovern Bdale Garbee Faidon Liambotis Meike Reichle Alexander Reichle-Schmehl Andrew Lee Velimir Iveljic Stefano Zacchiroli Jimmy Kaplowitz Felipe Augusto van de Wiel which gives us people from around the world and they all have logins to be able to rate people in the next days. As soon as thats done we will have an IRC meeting and then we can send out (provided we have money) the yes, you get money or no way ever mails. The team address is again h...@debconf.org. I can not tell yet when exactly the meeting will be, I am waiting for a doodle poll to get filled out by the members. When I know it I will report back here (it will be non-public due to the nature of the topic). -- bye, Joerg andreasj Also diese neuen Spam-Mails muten an wie Blog-Posts von Clint Adams andreasj irgendwie ist es eine Geschichte, aber ich versteh sie nicht ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] insurances
Yea I'll take care of this. Also when it comes to insurance it just crossed my mind would there be need for mass insurance of the attendees or something like that? Adnan On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Hi, for sponsored hardware as well as debian/debconf hardware, we need insurance for them in Banja Luka for DebConf11. (Is there any thing else we want conference insurance?) Adnan, is that something local government will cover? Can you please arrange some insurance company or find someone local to do that? Thanks, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] [Debconf-discuss] Important news regarding travel to Banja Luka
Just as it is case with Debian with its .org being official stuff and .net being unofficial we can do the same thing here. Not a problem if you ask me. I still believe what he did here is amazing even he didn't solely rely on free software, and that's exactly why we're having DebConf here among other things; so people can learn and find out more about free software :) Adnan On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Valessio Brito cont...@valessiobrito.info wrote: The work is fantastic, but you can make a version with free stuff. Alternative solutions FOSS: http://www.ushahidi.com/ example using: http://gis.debianart.org/ You can use a service with freedom and free http://crowdmap.com/ using OSM (OpenStreetMaps), and colaborative map... example url... http://debconf11.crowdmap.com 2011/5/25 Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk: On 11-05-24 at 10:26pm, Adnan Hodzic wrote: One of our local team members from Tuzla (Dejan Marjanovic) did amazing job on working out the travel details on how to to get to Banja Luka. Please check www.DebConf11.com as it's one stop shop for all information regarding needed information to get to Banja Luka, your stay there and eventual departure. Wauw! Is that website a Free Software project? I would be interested in looking closer at both the design of the site (e.g. look at applying Kalle's Debian design using Sass), and the data points (e.g. juggling with OpenStreetMap and RDF). - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list debconf-disc...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss -- ://ValessioBrito.info Profissional de inovação @valessiobrito / +55 (71) VALESSIO ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Important news regarding travel to Banja Luka
One of our local team members from Tuzla (Dejan Marjanovic) did amazing job on working out the travel details on how to to get to Banja Luka. Please check www.DebConf11.com as it's one stop shop for all information regarding needed information to get to Banja Luka, your stay there and eventual departure. DebConf11.com @ 24.05.2011 1. Added 600 interest points (POI) to the map of Banja Luka. 2. Code list of 4000 commercial and international airports (almost all in the world) // Please let me hear your applause! 3. Flight search from airport X (airport code query, city or country) to Zagreb, Banja Luka, Sarajevo, Belgrade ... 4. Detailed routes for road signs from any bigger Europe city to Banja Luka including travel costs. @todo 1. Bus lines from Zagreb, Sarajevo, Belgrade to Banja Luka. 2. Route to Banski Dvor from any larger entry point in Banja Luka. 3. Smart search. 4. 360° virtual tour of few Banja Luka locations or points that are in DebConf's interest. 5. Various gadgets/widgets. Help: 1. Sorting the points of interest to types (ATM's, Banks, Bars ...) // Local team Banja Luka? Enjoy, Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] DebConf delegation has arrived to Banja Luka
Hey everybody, Just wanted to let you know that Holger and Moray have arrived to Banja Luka today, one of our local team members picked up from Zagreb airport; I joined them and we will be here until Wednesday. Even they arrived in the evening we managed to assemble a meeting with group of local team people and since it's all in walking distance they managed to see hotels and venue. Also we're staying in one of the hotels which is going to be our main hotel which is just across the venue. With the group of local volunteers we have already had some discussion on some of the crucial topics and have got ideas in which way we want to go in future to get them all activated. We are also having our first official local team meeting tomorrow. Also tomorrow we have a scheduled meeting with Minister of Science and Technology and we're supposed to have a whole range of good stuff coming up, don't wanna talk about it any further details as I'll write a blog post about everything that has happened during their stay and topics we managed to discuss and close. Unfortunately this is the only picture I have right now http://twitpic.com/5164i8 :) Enjoy, Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Logo sizes
I just thought of having them visually the same as Mtel and HP seem to big compared to the other ones, for example Google seems tiny compared to the other ones. So I was just proposing to have them all visually the same, that' all :) Adnan On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Damyan Ivanov d...@debian.org wrote: -=| Adnan Hodzic, Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:32:35AM +0200 |=- With inclusion of Mtel logo I came to realize that size of each logo is differnet then the other one. So is there any way that all logos could have the same size? Same size is a vague term when you have objects with different shapes. Do you think that the Mtel logo is too big or too small? Maybe aiming at relatively equally sized logos measured in square pixels would work? Although, how do we measure a round, circle-like, logo? From my experience with DC9, having logos visually of the same size works well. However, this measure is subjective and this is why I asked the first question above. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJN1fQMAAoJEOQbTFV/DYC+kdMP/3l4g5IJUzYG1XlR0go+ucBv ERdJapNrzLaRv3MixFZLyElWeO89TA/cQgqXyFo3rA4cdUPr453mwvo5IG62QjBO dHdzn+Kl3AoEWHYwrwcMvsXBsr5VeIdx0+ZoQChhG4pgtpZnbEYmU74EhtczObrv 2LLbs8f8yueTo0GQNwk6T0agZw6M/sDzL3UjFDklydM/juFl00N1pBYf0UJ8smBK Zqbgup1BnCJpGVA0T05OPyhjJ1RuCKkk+hoEv3a1B79tnmaXcxg1V+yvKaNaZjm+ 2jUTJ/jqykws1VIC2EosRp89Fx7LvMRoVUBoDZb3emAOSm2kkxTSWRfBokGppa2U AmFgp035JeXfyYz5PQxQxHTv/kU2Nh8swAOF1dk7zooEHMca5lzcRv3eRJG8sxhn dwy2i7xJeMCi5XDK/MvmeHLQXn2KPEJe1yYMAB4bHqn8Q8oxBVg4xK+3P0Otrd7c 3Uu0hi7u+u3mw+U6wFuFSUJNX2JMjhBzI7nrIX0iZDcR14xiFUWFry+Am3TnL6QA +0ODFQwfgv8ng22JObathFj3kvgDLBJz48cmyn01PAQEKDpLwOPXdK0txqWpqLd4 h0RqgI3H+f3xi5GtNNYVzEy7txFzDB5b5iy8IPwUXtRW3RPAU4E4RsAeSSmczbzU jmXvg2bFWEd3hlAWS08f =bNSF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Logo sizes
With inclusion of Mtel logo I came to realize that size of each logo is differnet then the other one. So is there any way that all logos could have the same size? Thanks, Adnan Sent using Android (Nexus S) ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb -- Banja Luka
This topic is getting hard to follow especially since I'm extremely short of time ATM. @Ian and everybody else, I'll just tell you this, I'm in Zagreb now and today I talked to some of leading people from HULK (Croatian LUG) and told them about our Zagreb Banja Luka transportation plans. Even if it's only one person they would be glad to help us out, thus meaning they could perhaps greet you at the airport and then take you to the bus station and help you get what you need. Or take you to our bus/shuttle meeting point or whatever you need help with. So the moral of what I just said is please don't panic, we have everything under control and whoever you are you or whenever you arrive you won't be left by yourself. @debconf-team We should just make sure that Arrival/Departure page is concise and has all the data/info that's needed, according from data we pull out from Penta or letting the attendees to input these details by themselves. That's my plan. @everybody, again please just don't panic :) Adnan On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote: vedran writes (Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb -- Banja Luka): We understand your concerns but from our perspective things doesn't look so disorganized. Yes there is still a lot of missing points but at least there are well defined general guidelines about travel. Zagreb -- Banja Luka are very well connected with buses so even if you come to Zagreb without any preparation, you would not have any difficulty comming to Banja Luka. (Although i believe you will have all necessary guidelines on time.) Just please don't make panic. This is precisely the kind of response that I was complaining about. What people need is INFORMATION, not reassurance. Those flying into Zagreb need to know when they book flights (which ideally would be done a month or two ago) that they have a good plan for what they will do on arrival in Zagreb. That means the kind of detailed information about what and how I described in my previous email. Telling people there is a bus is not sufficient. We need detailed information about times, reliability, buying tickets, where to catch the bus, directions to the bus station or stops, how to know when to get off, who will speak which languages, etc. Those who are arriving late at night need recommendations for where to stay. Instead, here we have another message telling us don't worry and don't make panic. If you _provided the information_ people needed, no-one would be worried. Saying it's all fine but _not_ providing that information tells us not only is it not organised, but the people who would be organising it don't understand the problem. Ie, when you say it's all fine we see that there is a big problem. That means that people who aren't confident in their ability to deal with these kind of issues by themselves simply won't come to Debconf. Also, today Adnan presented DebConf11 organization at ODRS/CLUC event in Zagreb (www.dorscluc.org) and invited more more people to join travel team and help with those issues in case you are coming via Zagreb. People ware very interested in DebConf11 today so i have no doubt there will be some volunteers from Zagreb helping about this issue. Where are the local team for Banja Luka in this conversation ? Ian. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list debconf-disc...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb -- Banja Luka
Ian, Once again you have provided reassurance rather than information. This is, as I say, very UN-reassuring. Did you even read what I wrote ? No I haven't, last email I read was Josips which was 18 hours ago. I'd like to apologize for this as I tend not to give out any information or answers before previously really devouring what I'm about to say. It's just that I was very tired (still am but got ~30min nap) as after UDS I came here to Zagreb for another event and was just excited about sharing news regarding their help offer. Once again I apologize for my negligent act. It is that after I read your last email that I got onto a conclusion what we need to do, but before anything let me say couple of things. Where are the local team for Banja Luka in this conversation ? Very good question, and this goes together with Holgers statement that local team is very unorganized. I have to agree with him on it, there's tons of volunteers and people who offered their help and all, but once it comes to actually helping out with topics they just don't do anything. Why, I have no idea it fascinates me as it might fascinate you as well. In beginning there was basically only me who was doing all the work, later on more good people joined and started helping out I won't be naming anybody as their work is evidently seen on lists and so on. That's why I think Moray's and Holger's visit is more then important and will only help us in future process before few of us doing work break under our own weight. I was/am planning to send an email to local mailing list, telling them about Moray's and Holger's arrival as I'm pretty sure most of them are not even aware they are even coming. Now I'm not just trolling my own team, what I'm doing here is criticize it, as I don't want to close my eyes in front of problems that really do exist and all of this will lead to us eventually solving it. I have a theory why the situation is like it is, and it pulls some financial factors along the way so I'd rather explain it to Moray and Holger between our own 6 eyes. And after the talks we have with them situation is going to improve. Furthermore, instead of giving you any reassurance I'd like to say that I agree with you. I remember my trip to DC9 and to be honest it was pain, after airplane landed it was going through Madrid metro with basically no body speaking English, and when I was thinking that last train has left and when I was thinking of staying in some hotel in Madrid for a night that I *literally* was running after last train and hopping on to it. No ticket no nothing due to language barriers. Taking that train to Caceres is whole another story which doesn't matter for this topic, but it was all due to that there wasn't enough logistical data. Enough said. If I only had information it would've been all fine, but if I had this kind of reassurance we're offering I'd be more then happy. Now, I'd like to just point out that getting to Banja Luka is any way as it was getting to Caceres; but this is where my sentence will end as I'll apparently start doing my reassurance speech again. Lets do this, instead of having local buses/so on as our backup option besides our own organized buses/shuttles lets use HULK and hopefully help of local team in Bosnia to get all possible information one would need to get to Banja Luka on his own. Only thing that I can guarantee you is that this information will be online by the end of month; why we haven't done this before, well we thought there wasn't need for one such thing as you're able to find it all pretty much online on websites we have already shown and we're in middle of Europe and not in middle of some other continent or whatever. Since we have buses/shuttles we just thought it would be easier to assign X number of shuttles to go to Y places at Z time/s. When would we say where each shuttle/bus will be where would be all said in its time, that is once its time to release one such information, it can't turn to morning if night didn't come before that. Dependencies, and we still haven't even finished registrations. Now, is that enough INFORMATION for you? Adnan On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote: Adnan Hodzic writes (Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb -- Banja Luka): So the moral of what I just said is please don't panic, we have everything under control and whoever you are you or whenever you arrive you won't be left by yourself. ... On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote: This is precisely the kind of response that I was complaining about. What people need is INFORMATION, not reassurance. Once again you have provided reassurance rather than information. This is, as I say, very UN-reassuring. Did you even read what I wrote ? Ian. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list debconf-disc...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org
Re: [Debconf-team] propostal web watch debconf11 with html5
I don't know I love what Valessio did here.
I agree with what Jeorg is doing here, but I don't think this
could/should be applied to promotional channels. Using
newspapers/magazine is non-free, same case in case we manage to get TV
station to follow whole DebConf, TV is non-free ...
I completely agree with what you said, but I think we should just keep
it as it is, and am still of opinion to place this on main page above
Latest news.
Adnan
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz ti...@debian.org wrote:
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 08:58:17AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
On 12478 March 1977, Adnan Hodzic wrote:
+10!
http://valessiobrito.info/tmp/dc11/webwatch/
I'm loving it, could just add Twitter besides Chat on IRC or before
Identi.ca? I think once completed we should add this on main page
below the menu and above from Latest News.
Independent of how the design looks, just let me shoot a mis-conception
/ very bad idea:
It is fine if people use facebook/twitter/flickr/youtube/whatever to
promote DebConf. If it is clear they are doing it on their own, it is
NOT DebConf (or Debian) doing it.
But our website should NOT ever include a non-free service. Either there
is a free one, then link/use that, or DebConf provides its own. One of
the two. If none works, then leave a feature out of the website.
(That also includes any kind of JS or whatever which might be
included. Either we legally can distribute it, or we should not have it)
Sorry, but we are a free conference, promoting free and open - not
closed-source stuff.
Joerg++
Fully agreed.
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Re: [Debconf-team] tshirt artwork deadline (Re: Magazine ad(s)
Holger, okay no problem. But before anything gets to be done I still want to personally check the tshirt quality. Adnan On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Adnan, A: it breaks the logical consequence. Q: Why is top posting bad? On Donnerstag, 12. Mai 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: We could check this place out while you're in Banja Luka. no. (see below) Velimir Iveljic dijo [Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:39:12PM +0200]: It says here: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/T-Shirts that Vanja was supposed to check the local supplier. I dont think we should do anything _what Vanja doesnt suggest_. He is responsible for the tshirts and we should let him deal with it (which clearly could include going there if he thinks thats sensible.). It's neither a good way to take away assigned work nor to micromanage people. cheers, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] propostal web watch debconf11 with html5
What I didn't agree is having Twitter #debconf11 hashtag, I don't care about Facebook or anything else. Adnan On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor d...@fifthhorseman.net wrote: On 05/12/2011 02:58 AM, Joerg Jaspert wrote: It is fine if people use facebook/twitter/flickr/youtube/whatever to promote DebConf. If it is clear they are doing it on their own, it is NOT DebConf (or Debian) doing it. But our website should NOT ever include a non-free service. Either there is a free one, then link/use that, or DebConf provides its own. One of the two. If none works, then leave a feature out of the website. (That also includes any kind of JS or whatever which might be included. Either we legally can distribute it, or we should not have it) Sorry, but we are a free conference, promoting free and open - not closed-source stuff. I wholeheartedly agree with Joerg here. Debian is about freedom. There is already more than enough pressure on people to submit to joining centralized, non-free, corporate gatekeepers of culture and communications. We should make sure that our work does not encourage or support this kind of behavior. --dkg ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] propostal web watch debconf11 with html5
+10! http://valessiobrito.info/tmp/dc11/webwatch/ I'm loving it, could just add Twitter besides Chat on IRC or before Identi.ca? I think once completed we should add this on main page below the menu and above from Latest News. Adnan On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:44 PM, ValessioBrito vales...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Create a propostal page with video (HTML5 embeed) and others widgets JavaScript, to watch DebConf11... See: http://valessiobrito.info/tmp/dc11/webwatch/ TAB1, is What's up - http://www.dc10.debconf.org/cgi-bin/announce.cgi (future, DC11.. realtime events); TAB2, is CGI:IRC on irc.debian.org #DebConf11 ..or one channel per room. TAB3, is gadget auth with identi.ca and share or see tag #debconf11 TAB4, is Schedule, all days evento.. or Show images on Flickr with tag #debconf11 TAB5, is Credits and thanks, DebConf Video Team.. and others... -- ://ValessioBrito.info Profissional de inovação @valessiobrito / +55 (71) VALESSIO ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] Extending registration period
I agree with many of your views, however theres only ~12hours left until 8th which was/is original date when sponsored registrations close, I need to know are we extending sponsored registrations until 19th or not, whatever the decision might be I need to know in order to coordinate my next steps. Thanks, Adnan On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote: On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 05:08:31PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: On Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2011, Velimir Iveljic wrote: So no extensions then? I just want to know, so i can stop thinking about it further. further thinking about the last mile problem (aka busses) and this led me to wonder whether it would be sensible to extend cfp, travel + food+accom sponsorship deadlines _all_ to May 19th. I won't opine in that, just quick question: are we having also reconfirmation this year? In this case, when would be the deadline? Ana ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Is someone working on the Linux Journal Ad?
Ok, this is what I came up with. To have this sent to Linux Journal so we could see it in their next months release/website/whatever. I'm also planning to start releasing the ad in Nezavisne Novine starting next month. As starting next month sponsored registrations should definitely be completed these ads will be targeted specifically to professional/corporate attendees. Regarding Linux Journal, if there's no one else for this task I'll do it, just give me the last years contact information. Adnan On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: PING global-team On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Yes, i want to do all of those things, i just wanted to see what everones opinion is :) I'll check with ppl on -team IRC and see how we are going to proceed. Velimir On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Brian Gupta brian.gu...@brandorr.com wrote: On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Yes i have seen the last years add, but that one invited ppl to Debian Day, which is kind of pointless for us to do now, if everyone agrees with me? My thoughts were to simply invite everyone to come to DebConf since it would make more sense. Velimir snip I'd like to hear from some folks on the global team, as I'm not 100% sure what would be the best use of the ad at this point? (I largely agree about debian day though, since that will largely be targeted at your local non-english speaking populace). Regarding my feedback on your ad draft, I feel that you should at least have a URL and email address for folks to get more info, as the current ad draft doesn't say much about the conference itself. And maybe put in a URL for folks that might be interested in sponsoring? I would also consider putting in the full name of the conference: Debian Developers Conference, and maybe a blurb about what debconf is. Maybe steal some verbiage from this page? http://www.debconf.org/ -Brian P.S. - /me ducks back under the rock I am slaving under. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] Extending registration period
After all it has been said and done I'm safe to say that we're extending the sponsored registration until 19th of this month. Today or tomorrow I'll write a blog post that we are extending the sponsored registration process and will write general information because I have a feeling people lack information. I'm going to let people know about everything, from sponsorships to how they'll get to Banja Luka as I have a feeling most people don't even know we're trying to have organized transport. Either way this will end up on planet.d.o and therefor will target right audience I'm unsure how far we should go with news and announcing that registrations are extended. Adnan On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: I agree with many of your views, however theres only ~12hours left until 8th which was/is original date when sponsored registrations close, I need to know are we extending sponsored registrations until 19th or not, whatever the decision might be I need to know in order to coordinate my next steps. Well, we don't need to announce the extension before the original deadline, it's good if the original deadline encourages people to register quickly first. :) But yes, let's make an extension, because of your original request (announcing in conferences) and also because of Holger's reasons: further thinking about the last mile problem (aka busses) and this led me to wonder whether it would be sensible to extend cfp, travel + food+accom sponsorship deadlines _all_ to May 19th. and, if so, decide + _publish_ this fast and then soon after / even better at the same time improve+publish the bus information, ie the public bus tables from Zagreb (and elsewhere?) to Banja Luka plus a holdable promise of special shuttles (taxis?), ie one or two per day - except on maybe two days where we'll actually have busloads of arrivals. Any announcements within Debian should of course emphasise that this is a one-off extension (we can say, due to additional support from the government), that won't lead to further extensions of deadlines this year or in future years! -- Moray ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Extending registration period
Holger, I'm writing blog post as we speak. One more thing, we have extended the date for sponsored registrations, but does this mean that we have extended the date for talks submission as well? Adnan On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Hi, On Samstag, 7. Mai 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: After all it has been said and done I'm safe to say that we're extending the sponsored registration until 19th of this month. Yay. Today or tomorrow I'll write a blog post that we are extending the sponsored registration process and will write general information because I have a feeling people lack information. I'm going to let people know about everything, from sponsorships to how they'll get to Banja Luka as I have a feeling most people don't even know we're trying to have organized transport. Either way this will end up on planet.d.o and therefor will target right audience I'm unsure how far we should go with news and announcing that registrations are extended. hello publicity@ :-) IMHO the blog post should be done using the official debconf11 blog. more context: On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: But yes, let's make an extension, because of your original request (announcing in conferences) and also because of Holger's reasons: further thinking about the last mile problem (aka busses) and this led me to wonder whether it would be sensible to extend cfp, travel + food+accom sponsorship deadlines _all_ to May 19th. and, if so, decide + _publish_ this fast and then soon after / even better at the same time improve+publish the bus information, ie the public bus tables from Zagreb (and elsewhere?) to Banja Luka plus a holdable promise of special shuttles (taxis?), ie one or two per day - except on maybe two days where we'll actually have busloads of arrivals. Any announcements within Debian should of course emphasise that this is a one-off extension (we can say, due to additional support from the government), that won't lead to further extensions of deadlines this year or in future years! cheers, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Debconf participation
Hello, Yes it is possible, first step would be to get yourselves registered on http://debconf11.debconf.org/register.xhtml Adnan On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 6:22 AM, Astrid Valencia astridvalenc...@gmail.com wrote: Debconf Team Members We would like to participate in this year Debconf . We are human rights lawyer (and Debian users). Our main motivation is to develop a research about Debian (we attach the file that describe it). We have economics obstacles to participate and we would like to ask for sponsorship for the accommodation and meals. Please let us know it that is possible, so we can make the travel arrangements. In solidarity Astrid Valencia and Belissa Guerrero. -- Astrid V -- Astrid V ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Is someone working on the Linux Journal Ad?
PING global-team On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Yes, i want to do all of those things, i just wanted to see what everones opinion is :) I'll check with ppl on -team IRC and see how we are going to proceed. Velimir On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Brian Gupta brian.gu...@brandorr.com wrote: On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Yes i have seen the last years add, but that one invited ppl to Debian Day, which is kind of pointless for us to do now, if everyone agrees with me? My thoughts were to simply invite everyone to come to DebConf since it would make more sense. Velimir snip I'd like to hear from some folks on the global team, as I'm not 100% sure what would be the best use of the ad at this point? (I largely agree about debian day though, since that will largely be targeted at your local non-english speaking populace). Regarding my feedback on your ad draft, I feel that you should at least have a URL and email address for folks to get more info, as the current ad draft doesn't say much about the conference itself. And maybe put in a URL for folks that might be interested in sponsoring? I would also consider putting in the full name of the conference: Debian Developers Conference, and maybe a blurb about what debconf is. Maybe steal some verbiage from this page? http://www.debconf.org/ -Brian P.S. - /me ducks back under the rock I am slaving under. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Route from Brazil
Hey Otavio, My suggestion would be the following, find your flight to Zagreb on www.skyscanner.net or www.kayak.com we'll have organized transportation from Zagreb to Banja Luka. Regarding that one stay tuned. Adnan On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Otavio Salvador ota...@ossystems.com.br wrote: Hello, I am trying to plan the trip to get the estimated cost of the travel and ask for the sponsoring. However I couldn't figure out what is the best way to get into Banja-Luka. I have been told that I ought to get a plane to Zagreb and that it ought to have ground transport available from there but I am not sure if it is accessible or not. Can someone from local team help me? -- Otavio Salvador O.S. Systems E-mail: ota...@ossystems.com.br http://www.ossystems.com.br Mobile: +55 53 9981-7854 http://projetos.ossystems.com.br ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] Is arriving Friday 22nd ok?
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: On Montag, 2. Mai 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: I said this before, and I'm saying it again, we *have* to be flexible with hotel dates, sorry, but this is *bullshit*. as the government will pay everything, we probably *can* be flexible. Which they are, so in last two lines you're apparently contradicting yourself? We have to come up with solution for this stuff. no. there is no problem. we are organizing a conference, we offer *free stuff* for *certain developers* provided they register *on time*. we dont have to give out candy. Mark my words and this is not the point, I never promised candy, but what if I get free beer? What I suggest to you, and generally global team is to get your hands dirty instead of just criticizing stuff *we* do. I'm tired of doing things done, and you guys criticizing it. Do whatever you want, I'm out of this topic. Adnan On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Hi, On Montag, 2. Mai 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: I said this before, and I'm saying it again, we *have* to be flexible with hotel dates, sorry, but this is *bullshit*. as the government will pay everything, we probably *can* be flexible. We have to come up with solution for this stuff. no. there is no problem. we are organizing a conference, we offer *free stuff* for *certain developers* provided they register *on time*. we dont have to give out candy. cheers, Holger, who would appreciate to get a reply on -team ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list debconf-disc...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] dysfunctional team, how to proceed (Re: [Debconf-discuss] Is arriving Friday 22nd ok?)
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: On Montag, 2. Mai 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: sorry, but this is *bullshit*. as the government will pay everything, we probably *can* be flexible. Which they are, so in last two lines you're apparently contradicting yourself? learn to read and/or english and/or logic. You said we have to do this. I said thats bullshit, but we probably could still do it. Of course you could, because in the end I'll end up being the one: you are doing what you want. learn to read and/or english and/or logic. I may not be able to read/English or use logic, but I remember when DebConf11 bid was decided to be in Bosnia over Munich you left the channel, you weren't pleased by the decision. Maybe you're still led by the same emotion as with your behavior you keep obstructing this whole bid. Now you're using same logic Ecuador was using, to get me agitated without apparent reason for me to do something foolish, which is not going to happen ;) Do whatever you want, I'm out of this topic. you summarized nicely how I see this years DebConf team: dysfunctional. one important detail I see differently though: you are doing what you want, whatever we discuss on the list or in irc meetings, doesnt seem to be in your focus. it is impossible to work together like this. Our team is summarized by our work and our deeds, which talk for themselves. The reason I said what I said above is, because option of having people arrive early would be feasible from financial aspect, this topic has been around for months now, what seems to make it unfeasible is the work that it would be required from the team. That is disapproval from global-team, I'm fine with that, the less work, the better it is for us. I don't know what you were trying to achieve with this email, but no one will say work I or my team do is bullshit'. Adnan On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: On Montag, 2. Mai 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: sorry, but this is *bullshit*. as the government will pay everything, we probably *can* be flexible. Which they are, so in last two lines you're apparently contradicting yourself? learn to read and/or english and/or logic. You said we have to do this. I said thats bullshit, but we probably could still do it. Mark my words and this is not the point, I never promised candy, but what if I get free beer? more candy \o/ Do whatever you want, I'm out of this topic. you summarized nicely how I see this years DebConf team: dysfunctional. one important detail I see differently though: you are doing what you want, whatever we discuss on the list or in irc meetings, doesnt seem to be in your focus. it is impossible to work together like this. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] April 25th meeting summary / Next meeting 10 May 19 UTC
Extending it for about two more weeks was the proposal. The discussion was about the general deadline. Your idea of extending only accom, not travel, sponsorship is good. For general information: it is important to not extend the travel sponsorship deadline too much, since we need to evaluate people and allocate money ASAP. I wish I had remembered to mention this in the meeting. Yes, this was a proposal, made by me as I'm going to attend one of the biggest international and regional Linux/Open Source oriented conferences and I'll have opportunity to invite a lot of people. Besides this, I just realized that we also forgot to send the ad for Linux Journal, and this should've been done during the registration period, which ends on 8th I'm def. pro to extend the registration period, yet am unsure about only sponsoring the accommodation for extended period. We could make selection for the people who register in this extended period more rigorous so it's harder to get sponsored ... Ideas? Adnan On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote: On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 10:47:02AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Samstag, 30. April 2011, Richard Darst wrote: * Registration - There is a proposal for extending sponsored registration so that debconf can be advertised via talks at two more conferences. It would be ten days or so extension. extension of sponsored registration only, I assume. not for travel sponsorship and not for cfp. right? and how many days exactly? also: the next meeting is after the deadline - so we need to decide this via mail. here. Extending it for about two more weeks was the proposal. The discussion was about the general deadline. Your idea of extending only accom, not travel, sponsorship is good. For general information: it is important to not extend the travel sponsorship deadline too much, since we need to evaluate people and allocate money ASAP. I wish I had remembered to mention this in the meeting. * Access lists for SPI/FFIS - Without the peolpe in charge of these accounts around, we couldn't decide much... darst and nattie, at least, can have ffis view access for registration purposes. moray/holger/gwolf can authorize spending money? i think someone locals needs to be authorized to at least spent small amounts of money. (1000e or so). yes, for incidentals and such. * t-shirts - No one had any concrete plans (and nothing had been announced on the lists), so we couldn't decide anything. But people would like to decide on a design sometime. - About 2700 EUR including shipping for 400 shirts from our usual mexican provider whats the deadline for ordering the tshirts? Mexican supplier says Delivering time: within 20 days after receiving the advanced payment. Don't know anything about local supplier deadlines. Thanks, - Richard -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 650 days, 14:13 | http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Is someone working on the Linux Journal Ad?
Yes, and to make it even worse, we have the ads ready and everything, and we haven't sent them during the sponsored registration period, but we might extend the registration period. Thus my suggestion would be to have the ad sent as soon as possible, I was personally thinking this one was the best for LJ: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/File:DC11_NN_03.png Adnan On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Brian Gupta brian.gu...@brandorr.com wrote: This is due pretty soon, if we are going to do it? Thanks, Brian ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Is someone working on the Linux Journal Ad?
Yes, bring general awareness, but please let's finish this while the sponsored registrations are still open, at least in case we have extended registration period. Adnan On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Yes i have seen the last years add, but that one invited ppl to Debian Day, which is kind of pointless for us to do now, if everyone agrees with me? My thoughts were to simply invite everyone to come to DebConf since it would make more sense. Velimir On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:25 AM, Brian Gupta brian.gu...@brandorr.com wrote: I've cc'ed Pablo, who took care of it last year. He probably has more guidance to offer than I do. (I don't know who did it in past years.) Have you seen the ad that was run last year? It's in SVN somewhere if not. (I don't have time right now to find it, but if you don't have it, I might be able to dig it up tomorrow.) -Brian P.S. - I am drowning in non-DebConf-related stuff over here, I just didn't want to see us lose the free ad, because it fell through the cracks. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Hi Brian, We have the artwork ready here: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/File:DC11_NN_03.png, just need a few lines of text on it. I thought we just write about what DebConf is, and invite everybody to come? Something like this maybe: http://whiteboard.debian.net/ljtext_e6c1e2.wb If some has a better idea of what we should put on it, please do tell! Velimir On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Brian Gupta brian.gu...@brandorr.com wrote: This is due pretty soon, if we are going to do it? Thanks, Brian ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Payments: USD conversion, and DIVA taking attendee payments
I was thinking of DIVA taking care of sponsors on local/regional level. Adnan On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Just to add here, i've checked with a few Banks (Raiffeisen, UniCredit, Hypo-Alpe-Adria and a few more that are the biggest) and they all have similar provision they charge when transferring money from Bosnia to EU, which is around €20 for the ones sending the money, and also the Bank receiving the money would charge it's client around €15. I don't know if this is too much, or maybe even not important, i just thought it is interesting information. Velimir On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org wrote: I think the numbers you gave are ok. Regarding local prof/corp. attendees, we should only check if the provision the bank charges when transferring the money to SPI/FFIS will be too high (i will do this while i'm still here in Bosnia). If not i think it's a good idea to do it that way, since we will have to transfer the money left after DC11 to SPI/FFIS anyway. Velimir On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote: Hi, Like last year, I will update the website providing guidance for currency conversions when paying via SPI. Right now, costs are €450 and €1000 for prof/corp. I will say something like If paying via SPI, please pay 650 USD for professional and 1400 USD for corporate registration. Are these numbers acceptable? Next, is it worth letting DIVA accept payments from attendees (primarily useful for local attendees)? This would only really be necessary if people wanted to pay a professional fee for accom (otherwise they could pay on site), and if they couldn't wire money to FFIS or pay to SPI. Overall, keeping more money at FFIS/SPI is preferred, so if we can skip having DIVA take money, that's not bad. - Richard -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 636 days, 12:44 | http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] DebConf11 April 20th update
What happened yesterday couldn't even fit in a novel, so I'll try to make this as short as possible. Yesterday I was literally on my feet for 15 hours, but it was one of the greatest days for DebConf11. Went to Banja Luka, went to many places, talked with many people, but my main reason for going to Banja Luka yesterday was that our Minister for Technology and Science Jasmin Komic who's nominated for this years Nobel Price for Peace was along with couple of other professors releasing their statistical encyclopedia. Among attendees, besides myself being present along with many respected guest, professors there was whole governmental core of Republika Srpska, including President, Prime Minister and others. To make things more interesting, this event was held in Banski Dvor in one of the assembly rooms where I was planning for us to have our BOFs :) Whole event was just wonderful, talks during the same were also awesome, in one of the professors addressing even we were indirectly mentioned in a sense how scientific significance is growing, especially with upcoming events :) President Milorad Dodik received an award, as he stood by this project and supported it from very beginning, I thought this was incredibly nice gesture, and that we should do the same thing on DebConf. Kilt anyone? After event President was heading to another event, as all others were heading to the official dinner, but I got to talk to him before he left. We talked about DebConf and how it was all going, later on dinner I talked to Minister as on numerous occasions he would approach me/us (I was there with DIVA president) and ask if I talked to this and that person regarding this and that and so on ... as I started of with gibberish in short this is the situation. I mentioned couple of situations, for example t-shirts, shuttles and so on, and how DebConf budget is and so on. For this reason, Government has decided that they will take care of all the conference costs, except the travel costs, basically I was told to use my imagination if I wish, just for this to be best DebConf ever. All they want from Debian is to bring the attendees, the more the better. As besides having the best shirts, shuttles and so on, in case we need more accommodation for our attendees we'll get more hotels. I also talked about concert I was planning to have for DebConf attendees/wine cheese party and as well official dinner. After we got this kind of green light from government, I think these three will just blow your mind. Besides this daytrip is getting paid, as some won't go to rafting, they'll get another option to go to, again all sponsored by government. Government in this case, isn't just sponsor which wants to appear under sponsors list, they really allowed me all the resources to make this happen, *they* want this to happen. Some might ask why as reason is pretty self elaborate, the better this conference is, the better picture of government you get, the better government the more investments and new business you get. Of course, why do they sponsor event like this on so much, this is (semi) scientific event with new people talking about new technologies and why should the same be used, this puts us (Bosnia) in center of this whole region during this event. For NYC, DebConf isn't much of an event as all the grounds for this country have been set up and so on, we're still developing and want to develop in the best way possible, so I say let's make it happen. For DebConf global team, which I'm also part of, I suggest we work on getting as much sponsorships as we can, I'm also planning to collect local ones next week as I'll be in Banja Luka again next week. We'll use all this sponsorship money to pay for travel reimbursements, we get as much attendees to get here as possible, as the bigger this conference is the better. All the surplus that's left, goes to Debian. We get to have on of best DebConf's so far, we make ourselves happy, we make Government happy and we all walk out of this as happy as we can be :) In case of grammatical errors and typos, it's all due to the excitement, so do pardon me. What else can I say beside DebConf11 FTW :) Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Webmaster team
What you said here stands correct, but I believe I explained my reasons why I said to post those *two* logos, I even told you this privately. Please let's not get into unnecessary argument over this. Adnan On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Hi Adnan, On Freitag, 15. April 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: I believe I'm talking to Vedran when I say this, please add Google and Canonical logo under the sponsors list. They are both going under the Silver level. The logos are now on the webpage (at the silver level), but svn+ssh://hol...@svn.debian.org/svn/debconf-team/dc11/sponsors-table still doesnt say how much _exactly_ they are sponsoring. This is pretty bad, this sponsors-table file is our authoritive tool and must be up2date at all times, especially when putting logos online. Please fix this immediatly. And, webmasters, please dont put logos online if we dont have all required information. (Asking whether we have all info and whether they are in svn should be sufficient :) Thanks, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Planning arrival/departure buses
Which locations would you all like buses to come from? I was thinking for it to be Zagreb airport Banja Luka as Zagreb has more budgets flights and it's actually quicker to come to Banja Luka via Zagreb. We could also arrange them to leave from Sarajevo airport as well. Unofficially I heard that Serbian LUG wants to organize transportation from Belgrade to Banja Luka, I offered our help in realizing this idea. What dates/times? I've been saying it this for 20x time now, we should have some kind of arrival/departure list (after the registrations) and in the peak time frame when everyone's coming have the most buses sent and that's kinda it. And roughly how much will it cost? We can't have this number now as we don't know how many people/buses we're talking about. Remember, attendees arrive at all sorts of times, so if anything, we will probably need to focus only on the most common arrival/departure times - and announce that. Yep, that was the original plan. Adnan On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote: Hi, Attendees are now asking for bus information, so it might be good to plan more about them nowish, to make our promises concrete, and to make sure they are affordable? So, the most important questions are: Which locations would you all like buses to come from? What dates/times? And roughly how much will it cost? Remember, attendees arrive at all sorts of times, so if anything, we will probably need to focus only on the most common arrival/departure times - and announce that. Thanks, - Richard -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 636 days, 14:09 | http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] T-Shirt Design for DebConf11
Damyan, It would be quite expensive, though. If the shirt is 60cm by 70cm this makes 0.4m² × 35€/m² = 14€ only for printing the front. If we add 3€ for the back and 3€ for the shirt, this makes 20€ per shirt. Quite a jewel :) We'll get a way to lower the prices, we'll figure something out, this is kind of shirts we need to have! I want this jewel :) Adnan On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Damyan Ivanov d...@debian.org wrote: -=| Valessio Brito, Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 09:45:30PM -0300 |=- I update interactive svg.. and submit alternative proposal to wiki: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/T-Shirts The all-over logo looks really great! (first row, right). It would be quite expensive, though. If the shirt is 60cm by 70cm this makes 0.4m² × 35€/m² = 14€ only for printing the front. If we add 3€ for the back and 3€ for the shirt, this makes 20€ per shirt. Quite a jewel :) (I mean expensive, but really nice) My second favourite is the right design on the second row (necklace-like). 0.18m² would give 12.30€ total. Note I am not saying we should accept/reject a design based solely on the cost of production. Just giving some data points to help the final decision. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJNp+sGAAoJEOQbTFV/DYC+Nd8P/3CzQmzKJA0rgt56xy+C2Aet K1Ed6KW0Y7VN2w6PYJt4S0OncgeQU4qFKUPC9kKYDSPcIAaB14lbQFQXw5C6J70h 39iaOop+hIQnlGW+Z7iVk/jb5fxlswLiMhnTHIhbm2y3LTV/rnFp8N+nc4RyHAI6 SIqWn63NN8UWjDDo5qdvhtUmOBB9PiCSCHmqT3QFiHw0Ex7+3YiWYvsHFgjirNzD NEaMtsIxwCxO84X2T2Gggn9ViS1Bh7f7yj2KG9+T/7V6xsxLJfixiulSg+NWZwFG Nho7/TWi4Umwgp7SRrp/lo9r++ujTJ/7j61dSU8qHIBn6E17TmjM3/eOZDHEVf8W w1OgeWJ1pzDO5fnrSnHUBf11jMGmcgAoExiNRrsWho5br/zyCDry9mSqe+0/9ZTs fHivAxT4lWM+8SsX9ZvsoU16fiZaJkxwYW4iD2Go8wo1b5kASR/CphQZ1iD/6AZi JJWNunPvoqthBsTRycHRcsvS/4j5W0x50stki4qXez8EBU6JDSRTKsEQp+c3h3Ta EfZGDAHdxh7kAy6HcfJFEJvMWp3T80+Ej5IIxdelEUwTvTIu3PKDnO9fDH1R2hAQ XUE3+n3+sKmKlyOc5L68ziypMiJzGlJ4dQ+L5iVNGjIcUP44YSohj/rieuvnwAeQ AvjgVBrUxbZiGrA0S1WX =UOBt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Webmaster team
I believe I'm talking to Vedran when I say this, please add Google and Canonical logo under the sponsors list. They are both going under the Silver level. I'm in process contacting all the sponsors right now, I won't be done with this till tomorrow, but I believe having those two on our website can only bring more sponsors! So please add the logos for those two. Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] registration@ and talks@ aliases
Yea, I'm in. Adnan On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Hi, Yes, me and Adnan perhaps for local team, but if he is too busy with other stuff i think i could manage on my own. @visa team is fine, we need to start going through the list of registered people and see who needs a visa, so we can get right on it! Velimir On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote: Hi, We need to get registration@ and talks@ aliases set up. registration@ - should have nattie (volunteered to join registration team), me (to provide continuity with previous years: I don't plan on being too active, if someone else wants to provide continuity). schultmc can join if ey wants (SPI contact for payments). I can probably be the FFIS payment contact. We could use one or two local people who know things about hotels, accommodation, etc. Velimir? Eventually, we'll add the room assigners to this alias (gwolf and amaya are listed on the teams page, would you like to join now?). talks@ - gwolf will hold down this alias for now, until the rest of the team is added. (has this replaced the old committee@ alias?) (other aliases:) venue@ - old alias from last year, for archival/communication cc purposes. Can be removed unless local people this year would like it. visa@ - is this team doing OK ? Thanks, - Richard -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 632 days, 9:07 | http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Booting t-shirt organization
I know we can get high quality shirts by really cheap price right here in Bosnia. But I don't know what's the rush with deciding one such step, as we haven't even decided on design of the shirts. I was planning to have design finished first then we go printing. Velimir and I want to start this contest for awhile now, as we have shirt design plans inside of our heads since DebConf10! So could we please go in this order? Adnan On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Damyan Ivanov d...@debian.org wrote: Hi all, We need to start thinking about t-shirts. First, we need to decide if we print in Mexico (as is the tradition) or we use a local supplier/printer. For this we need to compare prices/quality of both variants. I know local team wants a full-color print (the logo is 5 colors - two yellows, two blues and white). We need someone local to get quote for this (200-400 t-shirts of various base colors), and we need someone to ask Gabby for the same (and if she is willing to drive this again). About the quality, we all have experience with .mx shirts. We need someone local to compare them with what is available locally. We need to decide on colors :) The orga shirt is traditionally black, which leaves video team, volunteer and attendee shirts. This should wait until we choose .mx or local printer and get the possible colors. Next, we need people to prepare t-shirt design (front) and lay out sponsor logos (back). [I can take this, but I am not exactly a designer, just happen to know the tools and the problem area] All this is described at http://wiki.debconf.org/DebConf11/T-Shirts as soon there is progress on some point (or a volunteer takes a job), please note it there. So, take a job you can help with and have fun! Thanks! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJNpyNTAAoJEOQbTFV/DYC+8+4P/jvB3H1+8FgZ/W9TCQBMH8rC WNkv1tNdGBVG0knSvYN6jsTm8AoHzG10OslEDlGn4zvDLi8uzvfeReKgXQsIaqtT rskbdftvlGPkigtn7xCa5BJrllWRR3IG/L90rpA4cfDg6VsHlg93iu3gkq3pdv/0 qPDP8xmap4lfJSRJ8wnVNTAgowk9SXKJc8hMcBcaAvQMd9NgttgmDghY60zjir5d TjnVqin+YlfwT2p72UNQJrzPENH8C4WyIFmHky+M9ZC5oPScoqYPztnOYfrFFGGn scN5brPPi/EpJrZgsbenyjrTj2VneQ8apwkcVbWZwjoTgMw2/mMhKzdVF6O+f/ld uLoF57WI8dltjAA2PNeCkj1TU6CVyBuspZVGEDxDJnteIVPGDLfkQrcRZj0OjdRT TcyNzlh+QhVKRPu97YFofGQ/HfhK5fW+GRq7vEBW2kiiJdkAEJieNyvNkkwg0nM8 3fCq838Pg414xzuK4b4tAQ1FheAA34r+rq35oj/dAaz7lHrH9jnN/tr0eNxeuTt/ JfBUpsnhzGus09DlnMLIBfimOT4QYLPccpc0T8a3FeWEAYenIr73NWhP6n9th61N 0IVgK/Ve1FguC7rMDfPHn8qhk+XKxpeja3uaFalSFUDXUzHV9j5cU9nIPKW0VK/S LSELLSf5L25hi29XvOtG =BF7k -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Booting t-shirt organization
Of course price is the most important factor, but shouldn't be the only criterion for choosing where we gonna print them at. We should find the balance between these three factors: price, quality, design. Besides tshirts, I was also thinking about having pens, rubber braclets, key chains and so on, whag do you thibk about that one? Adnan Sent using Android (Nexus S) On Apr 14, 2011 7:28 PM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] T-Shirt Design for DebConf11
Ynow that's what I'm talking about! Non-standard great looking tshirts, awesome. Ok people let us see more designs :) Adnan Sent using Android (Nexus S) On Apr 15, 2011 2:45 AM, Valessio Brito cont...@valessiobrito.info wrote: I update interactive svg.. and submit alternative proposal to wiki: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/T-Shirts 2011/4/14 Amar Cosic amar.co...@gmail.com: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Valessio Brito cont...@valessiobrito.info wrote: Hi all, As with other issues, did the interactive version to experience the colors of the logo with the color palette available shirts Mexico. http://valessiobrito.info/projetos/debconf/debconf11/tshirt.svg (run on browser with support SVG+JavaScript) No. 5 logo in brown color is great IMO.. -- Amar Ćosić amar.co...@gmail.com ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- ://ValessioBrito.info Profissional de inovação @valessiobrito / +55 (71) VALESSIO ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Arrival one day earlier?
Actually, I'm not sure if I was understood properly, but I'm of opinion that people should be able to come/leave one day earlier/later. We need to be flexible, and us not allowing them to do this doesn't make us flexible at all. Matter for discussion could be more whether how we would do this, manually or via penta. After registrations if we see people massively registered to arrive earlier/leave later and that we have a financial problem then we could revoke this decision. Adnan On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org wrote: Gunnar Wolf dijo [Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:20:27AM -0500]: gregor herrmann dijo [Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 02:28:45PM +0200]: On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:40:48 +0200, Adnan Hodzic wrote: Yes, you're free to arrive/leave one day earlier/later. If arriving on July 16th is ok, penta [0] needs to be updated. Cheers, gregor [0] https://penta.debconf.org/javascripts/application.js Right - the change is on its way up. Thanks! Oops. No, this was an oversight by Adnan and by myself - We had _not_ agreed people can arrive/leave one day earlier/later - So, sorry, the change is reverted. I'll contact privately people who has selected the 16th as their arrival day. Greetings, ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Arrival one day earlier?
Yes, you're free to arrive/leave one day earlier/later. Adnan On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Judit Foglszinger fgr...@freenet.de wrote: When the original dates where announced (DebCamp: 25th - 31st July 2011, DebConf: 1st - 7th August 2011), there was a suggestion to arrive one day earlier (24th July for DebCamp, and 31st July for DebConf). Is this still valid with the new dates? (would be 16./23. July) ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] DebConf11 media Propaganda!
# Nezavisne Novine After my recent interview for Nezavisne Novine (Independent Newspapers) they expressed great interest in being one of the companies that would like to do the media coverage. They are ready to start printing out our ad in the daily newspapers, we just need to make one, now from very start I had two ideas for this one: # 1. There would be a tag cloud on the left, with names of all the cities DebConf was in so far; some of them being more highlighted/bigger while the others would be smaller ones/thinner/whatever. For example New York City, Helsinki, Olso, Edinburgh and so on ... One city would be the thickest one and the largest one and would be coming out of that cloud and that would be Banja Luka. Below this we would have big DebConf11 logo. While below this we would have logo of Government of Republika Srpska, DIVA, Debian (no particular order unless you think there should be some). # 2. Even though this is not a conference of such character, Government and other are especially pro for this conference as it brings specialist from all over the world. My initial idea for second ad was to just say in some nice font (droid?) Debian in Banja Luka? Below it DebConf11 logo and below it the logos I mentioned above. This also remains me that we could have Banners made for websites to use Now when I talked to people from government regarding this idea, they said they would much like it if tag line was something along Google in Banja Luka? Why Google, well because to every company it rings an ear, now the question is how much do really have to do with Google? Either way those were my two suggestions, # DebConf11 banners This is another thing we should start thinking about, as some people already expressed interest in putting our banners on their sites/portals/so on. Another interesting gimmick could be the count downs until DebConfs. We should prolly make some kind of contents for all the ideas I proposed here, but before that ... thoughts? Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] DebConf11 media Propaganda!
Yea, but those are only for be a sponsor, this is plain simple DebConf11, or count downs XX days until DebConf11 in Banja Luka and so on. Adnan On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org wrote: I like the first idea! Also, we have some website promotional material ready here: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Artwork Velimir On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: # Nezavisne Novine After my recent interview for Nezavisne Novine (Independent Newspapers) they expressed great interest in being one of the companies that would like to do the media coverage. They are ready to start printing out our ad in the daily newspapers, we just need to make one, now from very start I had two ideas for this one: # 1. There would be a tag cloud on the left, with names of all the cities DebConf was in so far; some of them being more highlighted/bigger while the others would be smaller ones/thinner/whatever. For example New York City, Helsinki, Olso, Edinburgh and so on ... One city would be the thickest one and the largest one and would be coming out of that cloud and that would be Banja Luka. Below this we would have big DebConf11 logo. While below this we would have logo of Government of Republika Srpska, DIVA, Debian (no particular order unless you think there should be some). # 2. Even though this is not a conference of such character, Government and other are especially pro for this conference as it brings specialist from all over the world. My initial idea for second ad was to just say in some nice font (droid?) Debian in Banja Luka? Below it DebConf11 logo and below it the logos I mentioned above. This also remains me that we could have Banners made for websites to use Now when I talked to people from government regarding this idea, they said they would much like it if tag line was something along Google in Banja Luka? Why Google, well because to every company it rings an ear, now the question is how much do really have to do with Google? Either way those were my two suggestions, # DebConf11 banners This is another thing we should start thinking about, as some people already expressed interest in putting our banners on their sites/portals/so on. Another interesting gimmick could be the count downs until DebConfs. We should prolly make some kind of contents for all the ideas I proposed here, but before that ... thoughts? Adnan ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] DebConf11 media Propaganda!
About colors and everyting else, just follow your vision so far it turned out to be great (referring to dc11 website logo) :) Dimension of the ad are going to be up to full page, but we'll use them for other things so making it relatively scalable would be the best option. Again do it however you want as so far your vision turned out to be great. And that's the vision I believe in. *cheers Adnan Sent using Android (Nexus S) On Apr 8, 2011 2:50 PM, Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com wrote: ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Registration/CFP text + deadlines (please review)
Sponsored registration: May 1 Paper deadline: May 15 or June 1 When would be the last day for sponsored registrations? Adnan On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 08:29:30PM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: Hi, I think the last things we need to do before registration is make sure that the announcements and page texts look good. Gunnar has penta mostly working. My ideas for deadlines: Sponsored registration: May 1 Paper deadline: May 15 or June 1 Could we put all the deadlines the same day? it might be easier to remember :) For example, 15 May? In some European countries there are some holidays in the last 2 weeks of April (it changes a lot in every country) and some people may forget to register or being unable to do so, due to the holidays. Ana ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf GLOBAL team - Report
Ok, but... Where will people have to state they are willing to share a bed with $nextguy, in the hotel registration itself? I don't expect this option to be very popular :( Exactly, that's why I want to finish with hotel reservation, as this is not going to be a popular option we can just let people be by themselves in the room. Is there currently an option of selecting something along the line I want to be alone in room? Adnan On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org wrote: Adnan Hodzic dijo [Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 10:22:26AM +0200]: @Gunnar, Basically they are all double beds, the only beds that are one person size are those in dorms. Ok, but... Where will people have to state they are willing to share a bed with $nextguy, in the hotel registration itself? I don't expect this option to be very popular :( ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Registration/CFP text + deadlines (please review)
Well the confusion may be avoided by not talking about closing deadlines of something that still *hasn't* even been opened. Please understand our confusion as eagerness of waiting to finally see registrations being open. Regarding closing both things together, I agree on that as it's way easier to remember. Now let me try quoting myself right this time My ideas for deadlines: Sponsored registration: May 1 Paper deadline: May 15 or June 1 Way too early. Registrations are still not open and closing them 24 from now ... too close. May 15th is somewhat ok if you ask me. Does anyone know the (at least approximate one) average of the days DebConf registrations remain open for? Adnan On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 11:04:32AM +0200, Velimir Iveljic wrote: Isn't May 15 kind of late for registration to be opened? I'm not trying to rush anything, but we need to know who's going to come, especially if they need help acquiring a Visa or have some other issues that require our help. We are talking about *deadlines*. Could you all please avoid the top-posting and wrong-quoting? It helps to avoid this kind of misunderstandings. Thanks, Ana On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Sponsored registration: May 1 Paper deadline: May 15 or June 1 When would be the last day for sponsored registrations? Adnan On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 08:29:30PM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: Hi, I think the last things we need to do before registration is make sure that the announcements and page texts look good. Gunnar has penta mostly working. My ideas for deadlines: Sponsored registration: May 1 Paper deadline: May 15 or June 1 Could we put all the deadlines the same day? it might be easier to remember :) For example, 15 May? In some European countries there are some holidays in the last 2 weeks of April (it changes a lot in every country) and some people may forget to register or being unable to do so, due to the holidays. Ana ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
