Re: Please do not publish "Debconf from different perspectives" after DebConf
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 06:06:32PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > A totally unrelated question: What transcoding procedures could you > recomment to make sure a video can be seen flawlessly on phones and > other systems than Linux. Which phones? ;-) Your best bet is to produce both mp4 and WebM files at the same time. For the latter, there's VP8 as well as VP9, Both should work equally well on modern phones, but VP8 has a higher chance of working on older stuff. Yeah, this sucks. -- To the thief who stole my anti-depressants: I hope you're happy -- seen somewhere on the Internet on a photo of a billboard
Re: How to publish video for everyone [Was: Please do not publish "Debconf from different perspectives" after DebConf]
Hi Stefano, thanks for the helpful hints despite the non-trivial question. See you Andreas. On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 07:33:42PM +, Stefano Rivera wrote: > Hi Andreas (2020.08.29_16:06:32_+) > > A totally unrelated question: What transcoding procedures could you > > recomment to make sure a video can be seen flawlessly on phones and > > other systems than Linux. I had trouble with my own videos - if > > you have some hints - I'd love to learn this (in a smaller To: list > > thought) > > Non-trivial question, that. > > MDN has some guidance: > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Media/Formats > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Media/Formats/Video_codecs > > Generally, the most compatible codecs are a little behind the state of > the art in compression. > > Peertube is transcoding to h.264 High Profile + AAC LC audio, which is > probably the lowest common denominator. However, these are both > patent-encumbered codecs. > > VP8, VP9, AV1 don't have those problems. But aren't quite as widely > supported. (esp AV1 which is still very new). > > So, no quick easy answer :) > > SR > > -- > Stefano Rivera > http://tumbleweed.org.za/ > +1 415 683 3272 > -- http://fam-tille.de
Re: How to publish video for everyone [Was: Please do not publish "Debconf from different perspectives" after DebConf]
Hi Andreas (2020.08.29_16:06:32_+) > A totally unrelated question: What transcoding procedures could you > recomment to make sure a video can be seen flawlessly on phones and > other systems than Linux. I had trouble with my own videos - if > you have some hints - I'd love to learn this (in a smaller To: list > thought) Non-trivial question, that. MDN has some guidance: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Media/Formats https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Media/Formats/Video_codecs Generally, the most compatible codecs are a little behind the state of the art in compression. Peertube is transcoding to h.264 High Profile + AAC LC audio, which is probably the lowest common denominator. However, these are both patent-encumbered codecs. VP8, VP9, AV1 don't have those problems. But aren't quite as widely supported. (esp AV1 which is still very new). So, no quick easy answer :) SR -- Stefano Rivera http://tumbleweed.org.za/ +1 415 683 3272
Re: Please do not publish "Debconf from different perspectives" after DebConf
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 05:53:10PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 12:26:55PM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana > wrote: > > This is completely understandable. > > I know people have been gave up to talk because they were worried about > > what other people will say later. I believe we should always welcome > > people don't want their talks be recorded and available later. > > In light of this, I've just updated the database so the talk is now > listed in the review system as "ignored". This means it won't be > reviewed, transcoded, or published. > > Obviously it will still be streamed live. Live streaming was accepted and intended. Thanks for accepting not to publish. A totally unrelated question: What transcoding procedures could you recomment to make sure a video can be seen flawlessly on phones and other systems than Linux. I had trouble with my own videos - if you have some hints - I'd love to learn this (in a smaller To: list thought) Thanks a lot for doing all this video stuff for DebConf online. It would not have been possible without you! Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de
Re: Please do not publish "Debconf from different perspectives" after DebConf
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 12:26:55PM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote: > Em 29/08/2020 09:24, Andreas Tille escreveu: > > Hi content and video team, > > > > today Bárbara and I are active in the event > > > > > > https://debconf20.debconf.org/talks/24-debconf-from-different-perspectives/ > > > > It turned out that Bárbara was not aware that all DebConf events were > > uploaded to the DebConf talks archive for "ethernity". When I met > > Bárbara last year at DebConf19 she was wearing a "no photo" button. I > > think its a big step for her to come with me "on stage". I'm very happy > > about this. However, she has asked me that the video will be streamed > > only but not uploaded to the DebConf video archive for public download. > > > > I hope you agree with this. It is a bit like the "Newcomers BoF" on > > DebConfs where we try to care for some kind of privacy for those who are > > speaking. We both discussed it extensively but below you can read the > > final decision of Bárbara which I would like to respect. I appreciate > > Bárbara's courage to be streamed with me and would love to give her time > > to do the next steps into the wide open possibly in some other event. > > This is completely understandable. > I know people have been gave up to talk because they were worried about > what other people will say later. I believe we should always welcome > people don't want their talks be recorded and available later. In light of this, I've just updated the database so the talk is now listed in the review system as "ignored". This means it won't be reviewed, transcoded, or published. Obviously it will still be streamed live. -- To the thief who stole my anti-depressants: I hope you're happy -- seen somewhere on the Internet on a photo of a billboard
Re: Please do not publish "Debconf from different perspectives" after DebConf
Hi Paulo, thanks for your understanding. I admit I personally try to publish anything I do at DebConf. However, Bárbara has my full understanding and support by just speaking on the stream. I repeat that I'm really proud upon her that she joined me and I had a lot of fun to talk to her (and hope that became visible ;-) ) Thanks again Bárbara and see you hopefully on some future DebConf ... perhaps life on stage ;-) Andreas. PS: Tassia, unfortunately I shared the wrong jitsi link with you - sorry about this. On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 12:26:55PM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote: > Hi Andreas and Bárbara, > > Thank you both for your contribution to DC20 with this talk. > > Em 29/08/2020 09:24, Andreas Tille escreveu: > > Hi content and video team, > > > > today Bárbara and I are active in the event > > > > > > https://debconf20.debconf.org/talks/24-debconf-from-different-perspectives/ > > > > It turned out that Bárbara was not aware that all DebConf events were > > uploaded to the DebConf talks archive for "ethernity". When I met > > Bárbara last year at DebConf19 she was wearing a "no photo" button. I > > think its a big step for her to come with me "on stage". I'm very happy > > about this. However, she has asked me that the video will be streamed > > only but not uploaded to the DebConf video archive for public download. > > > > I hope you agree with this. It is a bit like the "Newcomers BoF" on > > DebConfs where we try to care for some kind of privacy for those who are > > speaking. We both discussed it extensively but below you can read the > > final decision of Bárbara which I would like to respect. I appreciate > > Bárbara's courage to be streamed with me and would love to give her time > > to do the next steps into the wide open possibly in some other event. > > This is completely understandable. > I know people have been gave up to talk because they were worried about > what other people will say later. I believe we should always welcome > people don't want their talks be recorded and available later. > > Best regards, > > -- > Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls) > Curitiba - Brasil > Debian Developer > Diretor do Instituto para Conservação de Tecnologias Livres > Site: http://www.phls.com.br > GNU/Linux user: 228719 GPG ID: 0443C450 > > -- http://fam-tille.de
Re: Please do not publish "Debconf from different perspectives" after DebConf
Hi Andreas and Bárbara, Thank you both for your contribution to DC20 with this talk. Em 29/08/2020 09:24, Andreas Tille escreveu: > Hi content and video team, > > today Bárbara and I are active in the event > >https://debconf20.debconf.org/talks/24-debconf-from-different-perspectives/ > > It turned out that Bárbara was not aware that all DebConf events were > uploaded to the DebConf talks archive for "ethernity". When I met > Bárbara last year at DebConf19 she was wearing a "no photo" button. I > think its a big step for her to come with me "on stage". I'm very happy > about this. However, she has asked me that the video will be streamed > only but not uploaded to the DebConf video archive for public download. > > I hope you agree with this. It is a bit like the "Newcomers BoF" on > DebConfs where we try to care for some kind of privacy for those who are > speaking. We both discussed it extensively but below you can read the > final decision of Bárbara which I would like to respect. I appreciate > Bárbara's courage to be streamed with me and would love to give her time > to do the next steps into the wide open possibly in some other event. This is completely understandable. I know people have been gave up to talk because they were worried about what other people will say later. I believe we should always welcome people don't want their talks be recorded and available later. Best regards, -- Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls) Curitiba - Brasil Debian Developer Diretor do Instituto para Conservação de Tecnologias Livres Site: http://www.phls.com.br GNU/Linux user: 228719 GPG ID: 0443C450
Please do not publish "Debconf from different perspectives" after DebConf
Hi content and video team, today Bárbara and I are active in the event https://debconf20.debconf.org/talks/24-debconf-from-different-perspectives/ It turned out that Bárbara was not aware that all DebConf events were uploaded to the DebConf talks archive for "ethernity". When I met Bárbara last year at DebConf19 she was wearing a "no photo" button. I think its a big step for her to come with me "on stage". I'm very happy about this. However, she has asked me that the video will be streamed only but not uploaded to the DebConf video archive for public download. I hope you agree with this. It is a bit like the "Newcomers BoF" on DebConfs where we try to care for some kind of privacy for those who are speaking. We both discussed it extensively but below you can read the final decision of Bárbara which I would like to respect. I appreciate Bárbara's courage to be streamed with me and would love to give her time to do the next steps into the wide open possibly in some other event. Thanks a lot for your understanding Bárbara & Andreas. On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 08:51:13AM -0300, Bárbara Fernandes wrote: > Dear Andreas, > > I'm really sorry, I thought I had answered that question by Telegram. > Yes, I would really appreciate it if the video wasn't made available > after its streaming. > -- http://fam-tille.de
