GNOME Accessibility Observations #1

2016-05-30 Thread Mario Lang
Hi.

The following chain of events just happened on my machine at work:

* I pressed  to investigate the GNOME Menu Accessbility.
* Orca stopped refreshing, no matter what key I pressed, the screen
  reader appeared to have been hung.
* A sighted coworker confirmed that not only Orca was hung, but the
  whole GNOME desktop was no longer responsive to mouse clicks.
* Attempting to log in again failed, because GDM also appeard to sort of
  have hung.
* I tried to restart GDM with "systemctl restart gdm".
* This didn't help at all, GDM refused to die.
* I manually killed one of the GDM parents.
* Now I was able to start gdm again with "systemctl start gdm".
* And I was able to login again.
* However, there is now no speech output anymore, only Braille.
* And GDM started on tty1, which was previously used by me for an ssh
  session to a remote machine.  Prior to this event, GDM was running at tty7.
* I have no way to access my ssh session anymore, it is apparently lost.

So GDM happily overwrote an in-use text-console.
I have absolutely no idea what components fault that is, but this should
never have happened!

There are so many bugs in this chain of event, I am unable to file any
meaningful bug reports from the information I have.

All I know is, that I wouldn't want to recommend this sort of
"accessibility" to any fellow blind user.

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Re: GNOME Accessibility Observations #1

2016-05-30 Thread Sebastian Humenda
Hi

Mario Lang schrieb am 30.05.2016, 14:14 +0200:
>The following chain of events just happened on my machine at work:
[..]
>* However, there is now no speech output anymore, only Braille.
I'm experiencing this frequently after a crash of the x-server / after a restart
of Orca.  "killall speech-dispatcher && speech-dispatcher" resolves this without
restarting Orca. It'd be intresting to find out what the cause is though.

Cheers
Sebastian
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Bug#825831: libatk-adaptor: Please export $GTK_MODULES to dbus user session as well

2016-05-30 Thread Martin Pitt
Package: libatk-adaptor
Version: 2.20.1-1
Tags: patch
User: ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com
Usertags: origin-ubuntu ubuntu-patch yakkety

Hello,

/etc/X11/Xsession.d/90atk-adaptor exports $GTK_MODULES to the started
user session. However, when using the "dbus-user-session" package,
services that get D-Bus activated or started from a systemd --user
service don't have that variable.

Attached patch fixes this, similar to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/20dbus_xdg-runtime.

Thanks for considering,

Martin

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diff -Nru at-spi2-atk-2.20.1/debian/90atk-adaptor 
at-spi2-atk-2.20.1/debian/90atk-adaptor
--- at-spi2-atk-2.20.1/debian/90atk-adaptor 2016-04-27 14:14:48.0 
+0200
+++ at-spi2-atk-2.20.1/debian/90atk-adaptor 2016-05-30 14:43:03.0 
+0200
@@ -23,3 +23,6 @@
 add_module atk-bridge
 
 export GTK_MODULES
+if [ -x "/usr/bin/dbus-update-activation-environment" ]; then
+dbus-update-activation-environment --verbose --systemd GTK_MODULES
+fi
diff -Nru at-spi2-atk-2.20.1/debian/changelog 
at-spi2-atk-2.20.1/debian/changelog
--- at-spi2-atk-2.20.1/debian/changelog 2016-04-28 11:52:22.0 +0200
+++ at-spi2-atk-2.20.1/debian/changelog 2016-05-30 14:43:51.0 +0200
@@ -1,3 +1,9 @@
+at-spi2-atk (2.20.1-1ubuntu2) yakkety; urgency=medium
+
+  * debian/90atk-adaptor: Export $GTK_MODULES to dbus user session as well.
+
+ -- Martin Pitt   Mon, 30 May 2016 14:43:06 +0200
+
 at-spi2-atk (2.20.1-1ubuntu1) yakkety; urgency=medium
 
   * Merge with debian unstable, remaining changes:


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user session as well
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--- Begin Message ---
Package: libatk-adaptor
Version: 2.20.1-1
Tags: patch
User: ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com
Usertags: origin-ubuntu ubuntu-patch yakkety

Hello,

/etc/X11/Xsession.d/90atk-adaptor exports $GTK_MODULES to the started
user session. However, when using the "dbus-user-session" package,
services that get D-Bus activated or started from a systemd --user
service don't have that variable.

Attached patch fixes this, similar to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/20dbus_xdg-runtime.

Thanks for considering,

Martin

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diff -Nru at-spi2-atk-2.20.1/debian/90atk-adaptor 
at-spi2-atk-2.20.1/debian/90atk-adaptor
--- at-spi2-atk-2.20.1/debian/90atk-adaptor 2016-04-27 14:14:48.0 
+0200
+++ at-spi2-atk-2.20.1/debian/90atk-adaptor 2016-05-30 14:43:03.0 
+0200
@@ -23,3 +23,6 @@
 add_module atk-bridge
 
 export GTK_MODULES
+if [ -x "/usr/bin/dbus-update-activation-environment" ]; then
+dbus-update-activation-environment --verbose --systemd GTK_MODULES
+fi
diff -Nru at-spi2-atk-2.20.1/debian/changelog 
at-spi2-atk-2.20.1/debian/changelog
--- at-spi2-atk-2.20.1/debian/changelog 2016-04-28 11:52:22.0 +0200
+++ at-spi2-atk-2.20.1/debian/changelog 2016-05-30 14:43:51.0 +0200
@@ -1,3 +1,9 @@
+at-spi2-atk (2.20.1-1ubuntu2) yakkety; urgency=medium
+
+  * debian/90atk-adaptor: Export $GTK_MODULES to dbus user session as well.
+
+ -- Martin Pitt   Mon, 30 May 2016 14:43:06 +0200
+
 at-spi2-atk (2.20.1-1ubuntu1) yakkety; urgency=medium
 
   * Merge with debian unstable, remaining changes:


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We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
at-spi2-atk, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
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for d- (udeb)
 at-spi2-doc - Assistive Technology Service Provider Interface (Documentation)
 gir1.2-atspi-2.0 - Assistive Technology Service Provider (GObject 
introspection)
 libatspi0-udeb - Assistive Technology Service Provider Interface - module for 
d-i (udeb)
 libatspi2.0-0 - Assistive Technology Service Provider Interface - shared 
library
 libatspi2.0-dev - Development files for the assistive technology service 
provider
Changes:
 at-spi2-core (2.20.2-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Samuel Thibault ]
   * control: Bump Standards-Version to 3.9.8 (no change)
   * 90qt-a11y: Export $QT_ACCESSIBILITY and QT_LINUX_ACCESSIBILITY_ALWAYS_ON to
 dbus user session as well, thanks Martin Pitt for the hint.
 .
   [ Luke Yelavich ]
   * New upstream release
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Re: GNOME Accessibility Observations #1

2016-05-30 Thread Jason White
Sebastian Humenda  wrote:
> I'm experiencing this frequently after a crash of the x-server / after a 
> restart
> of Orca.  "killall speech-dispatcher && speech-dispatcher" resolves this 
> without
> restarting Orca. It'd be intresting to find out what the cause is though.


You need to find out what the cause is of the underlying crash.

You do need to terminate speech-dispatcher before starting another instance of
Orca. As I remember, the speech-dispatcher maintainers had it on their bug
list to fix, but unfortunately they're as under-resourced as other projects in
this area tend to be.