Re: To all candidates: Debian and people with disabilities
Hello, Wouter Verhelst, le mar. 29 mars 2022 20:00:19 +0200, a ecrit: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 09:23:38AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Devin Prater, le lun. 21 mars 2022 22:10:15 -0500, a ecrit: > > > As far as backports, my problem is enabling it. Normal desktop users > > > probably > > > won't even know what that is, and the syntax is rather ugly, to me at > > > least. > > > > Ok, that's one point that could be worked on: creating an easy way to > > enable backports. > > This is what my project, "extrepo", wants to accomplish: to make it > easily possible to enable repositories that are not enabled by default. Nice! I added a not on the accessibility wiki page. Samuel
Re: To all candidates: Debian and people with disabilities
Hi Samuel,
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 09:23:38AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Devin Prater, le lun. 21 mars 2022 22:10:15 -0500, a ecrit:
> > As far as backports, my problem is enabling it. Normal desktop users
> > probably
> > won't even know what that is, and the syntax is rather ugly, to me at least.
>
> Ok, that's one point that could be worked on: creating an easy way to
> enable backports.
This is what my project, "extrepo", wants to accomplish: to make it
easily possible to enable repositories that are not enabled by default.
You can enable backports on bullseye by way of the following two
commands:
sudo apt install extrepo
sudo extrepo enable debian_backports
(there are a lot of other repositories you can enable that way, btw; to
get a full list, run "extrepo search", although you might want to pipe
it into a pager ;-) )
> At least as a question in the installer,
Adding an installer module for extrepo is on my TODO list, but I do have
a lot on my plate and thus am not sure I'll be able to finish that work
in time for the release.
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Re: building the android open source project on debian with accessibility tools
Hello, Nick Gawronski wrote: > I am not totally sure as to how to capture these errors as they happen > as once in the build environment by using source build/envsetup.sh the > script command does not work How does it not work? Does it output an error message? Does it not capture anything? script definitely is the simplest way to go and is supposed to be working, if it doesn't work it's either a bug or some usage error that can be fixed. > I am also wondering if there could be an accessibility issue on the > Google pages for building the android source code that I am not aware of. I don't see how that is related to accessibility actually? Samuel
Re: Request for help on braille and speech on virtual console
Jim, You need to enter the BRLTTY Preferences Menu and enable contracted braille. Details vary, but if your display has a braille keyboard, use dots 1-2-3-4 with space bar to enter the Preferences Menu, then cursor routing keys to make selections. Regards, David On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 6:06 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > Hello Jim, > > Welcome to Debian! > > You're among friends! > > Just a few questions to make sure we're all on the same place in figuring > out what's going on with your Debian. > > 1) Did you install using the Live Debian or the Installer version of > Debian? As far as I know, the Installer version of Debian is the one that > installs console accessibility. Maybe someone on the list can correct me > as I've always used that version because it installs using text mode and I > know right away if I can hear the console speech. > > I suggest that people especially those using old hardware that might still > be non 64 bit hardware using the multi-arch with firmware iso that's > located here: > > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/11.2.0 > +nonfree/multi-arch/iso-cd/ > > So many of us these days are using laptops with proprietary hardware for > the Internet and video that isn't in the regular Debian iso. This iso > above will install on an old 32 bit computer or a modern 64 bit computer. > > The latest version is here: > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/11.2.0 > +nonfree/multi-arch/iso-cd/firmware-11.2.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso > > The sha256sum for that file is here: > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/11.2.0+nonfree/multi-arch/iso-cd/SHA256SUMS > you can use that to verify that your download is accurate, if you don't > want to or don't know how, don't worry about it, I think in 20 years I have > only had one bad download so things on the Internet are very good. > > Test the console speech with this command: > > spd-say "hello" > > Do you hear anything? > > If not, give this command so we can see what speech related files you have > installed on your system: > > As your regular user give this command: > > apt search speech | grep installed > speechfiles.txt > > Send us the speechfiles.txt which this command produced in your home > folder. > > Best wishes, > > David Ring > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 12:09 PM Jim Armantage > wrote: > >> Hello, >> I am blind and have just loaded debian 11 on one of my machines. >> I am having trouble with speech and braille on a virtual console. >> The braille is active. I am having trouble getting contracted braille >> running. >> It seems to be stuck on computer braille. >> Could you help me get contracted. braille up and running. >> Also there is not speech on the virtual console. >> I need help getting the speech running. >> Sorry, but I am new to Debian. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >
Re: Voluntary Product Accessibility Template (VPAT)?
Hi, I started reading but it is always a pain for me understanding such documents. Perhaps we could ask to Ubuntu how they did to get this certification? From a method point of view, how does it work? Is it a list of criterias and we should fill them against a desktop or an app, or is it a kind of guidelines? Thanks for your help to understand this, I am interested to fill such report about Debian (MATE and tty for example) Regards Jean-Philippe MENGUAL Debian Developer non uploading Community team member Accessibility team member debian-l10n-french team member President of Debian France non-profit organization Le 29/03/2022 à 00:50, Jason White a écrit : On 28/3/22 13:57, Samuel Thibault wrote: I don't know about VPAT, but since Ubuntu has one, I guess Debian can have one, it'd be a matter of somebody having a look at it. The latest version of the VPAT allows for reporting of conformance to both U.S. and E.U. accessibility standards. https://www.itic.org/policy/accessibility/vpat Writing one for any Linux distribution would be an enormous undertaking, given the number of packages involved. A Linux distribution, as is well known in the community, includes an abundance of application software in addition to operating system components. If everything that provides a user interface would need to be evaluated for purposes of the report, then it's an extraordinary task. I suppose one could write a VPAT for each desktop environment (also a large task) and one for each application. I think this is probably best left to commercial distributors who are selling Linux-based systems to clients such as public-sector entities that require VPAT documentation.
