Re: GNOME Accessibility Observations #1

2016-05-30 Thread Jason White
Sebastian Humenda  wrote:
> I'm experiencing this frequently after a crash of the x-server / after a 
> restart
> of Orca.  "killall speech-dispatcher && speech-dispatcher" resolves this 
> without
> restarting Orca. It'd be intresting to find out what the cause is though.


You need to find out what the cause is of the underlying crash.

You do need to terminate speech-dispatcher before starting another instance of
Orca. As I remember, the speech-dispatcher maintainers had it on their bug
list to fix, but unfortunately they're as under-resourced as other projects in
this area tend to be.



Re: GNOME Accessibility Observations #1

2016-05-30 Thread Sebastian Humenda
Hi

Mario Lang schrieb am 30.05.2016, 14:14 +0200:
>The following chain of events just happened on my machine at work:
[..]
>* However, there is now no speech output anymore, only Braille.
I'm experiencing this frequently after a crash of the x-server / after a restart
of Orca.  "killall speech-dispatcher && speech-dispatcher" resolves this without
restarting Orca. It'd be intresting to find out what the cause is though.

Cheers
Sebastian
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GNOME Accessibility Observations #1

2016-05-30 Thread Mario Lang
Hi.

The following chain of events just happened on my machine at work:

* I pressed  to investigate the GNOME Menu Accessbility.
* Orca stopped refreshing, no matter what key I pressed, the screen
  reader appeared to have been hung.
* A sighted coworker confirmed that not only Orca was hung, but the
  whole GNOME desktop was no longer responsive to mouse clicks.
* Attempting to log in again failed, because GDM also appeard to sort of
  have hung.
* I tried to restart GDM with "systemctl restart gdm".
* This didn't help at all, GDM refused to die.
* I manually killed one of the GDM parents.
* Now I was able to start gdm again with "systemctl start gdm".
* And I was able to login again.
* However, there is now no speech output anymore, only Braille.
* And GDM started on tty1, which was previously used by me for an ssh
  session to a remote machine.  Prior to this event, GDM was running at tty7.
* I have no way to access my ssh session anymore, it is apparently lost.

So GDM happily overwrote an in-use text-console.
I have absolutely no idea what components fault that is, but this should
never have happened!

There are so many bugs in this chain of event, I am unable to file any
meaningful bug reports from the information I have.

All I know is, that I wouldn't want to recommend this sort of
"accessibility" to any fellow blind user.

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