Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service
The only way to update a live CD is to install from it. Then you can update. But as you said "the point is MOOT". DR On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 11:16 PM K0LNY wrote: > > All that would have helped to begin with, but since it wouldn't update, I > guess the point is mute. > > - Original Message - > From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." > To: "K0LNY" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 10:14 PM > Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service > > > It's a live Command Line Interface CD. It boots into the system. > h is for help. Or you can type the whole command "help". > h or "help" opens up help.txt in nano. > Capital V in "install Vinux to hard drive". > > Vinux CLI max comes with ssh server and client installed. > > menu runs pdmenu which is that ASCII graphics menu. > > n runs cnetworkmanager. > > It's all in help.txt which you can read (it speaks) with command h or "help" > > BRGDS, > David > > On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 10:50 PM K0LNY wrote: > > > > I thought it said type help for help, and I kept trying typing help and > > got > > no help. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." > > To: "K0LNY" > > Cc: > > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 9:45 PM > > Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service > > > > > > Glenn, > > > > You said "Yeah, I got it to boot up but I couldn't get into it, and I > > got no guidance > > on upgrading it, so it was a non-starter.". > > > > If you're talking about Vinux 2.1 Debian CLI (we talked about the > > Debian and the Ubuntu versions of Vinux, so I don't know which you are > > referring to) it opens up talking with instructions. > > > > Vinux 2.1 is the best documented distro I've ever seen. > > When it boots, it beeps, but do nothing, just wait 40 seconds, then > > the prompt will appear. There is writing on the screen that doesn't > > speak. > > > > The writing just says "type h" for help. > > If you type "h" at the prompt, an amazing document of help appears. > > > > Did you get that far, Glenn? > > > > BRGDS, > > David > > > > On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 10:04 PM K0LNY wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, I got it to boot up, but I couldn't get into it, and I got no > > > guidance > > > on upgrading it, so it was a non-starter. > > > Anyway, I got Debian 11.7 installed, I just have to set up the WIFI > > > again. > > > Last time I did this, it was on the same i386 machine, but on a 32 gb SD > > > card in the card slot. > > > I wanted to put a good working image on the internal 4 GB SSD and then > > > make > > > an image of it, so I can restore it if I need to. > > > > > > Glenn > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." > > > To: "K0LNY" > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 8:53 PM > > > Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service > > > > > > > > > Vinux 2.1 CLI Max is based on Lenny Debian 5.0.10, it's a x686 32bit > > > system. Works fine here. > > > > > > Vinux 3 and later are all based on Ubuntu and are (sadly) Graphic User > > > Interface. They have the Command Line Interface of course, but they > > > have a GUI already installed. > > > > > > BRGDS, > > > David > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 7:10 PM K0LNY wrote: > > > > > > > > Well I can't get the image to boot a second time. > > > > I may need to find a newer Vinux. > > > > I read the screen while it was trying to boot, with my iPhone, and > > > > this > > > > Vinux CLI only, is Debian 1.10.22. > > > > Glenn > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: K0LNY > > > > To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 4:05 PM > > > > Subject: Old Debian and Starting A Service > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I thought I'd give this old Vinux 2.1 CLI a go on the Asus 701, to see > > > > if > > > > I can upgrade it little by little. > > > > I have been looking for older Debian commands to start SSH. > > > > I tried to apt-get install SSH, and it said it is already running the > > > > latest, which is the latest for it's package, which I don't know is > > > > Debian > > > > 2.1, because it's Vinux 2.1. > > > > But it does not know systemd or systemctl. > > > > So I don't know how to get the service running. > > > > It seems to have no WIFI, but I tried to find its IP address with > > > > hostname -I > > > > and it was before the capitol I was used, so I found the IP with a > > > > small > > > > I. > > > > But the connection is still refused. > > > > I tried to update, and it said it is updated already. > > > > I also don't know the upgrade command for older Debian. > > > > So if anyone remembers, thanks for any info. > > > > Glenn > > > > > >
Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service
All that would have helped to begin with, but since it wouldn't update, I guess the point is mute. - Original Message - From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." To: "K0LNY" Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 10:14 PM Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service It's a live Command Line Interface CD. It boots into the system. h is for help. Or you can type the whole command "help". h or "help" opens up help.txt in nano. Capital V in "install Vinux to hard drive". Vinux CLI max comes with ssh server and client installed. menu runs pdmenu which is that ASCII graphics menu. n runs cnetworkmanager. It's all in help.txt which you can read (it speaks) with command h or "help" BRGDS, David On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 10:50 PM K0LNY wrote: I thought it said type help for help, and I kept trying typing help and got no help. - Original Message - From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." To: "K0LNY" Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 9:45 PM Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service Glenn, You said "Yeah, I got it to boot up but I couldn't get into it, and I got no guidance on upgrading it, so it was a non-starter.". If you're talking about Vinux 2.1 Debian CLI (we talked about the Debian and the Ubuntu versions of Vinux, so I don't know which you are referring to) it opens up talking with instructions. Vinux 2.1 is the best documented distro I've ever seen. When it boots, it beeps, but do nothing, just wait 40 seconds, then the prompt will appear. There is writing on the screen that doesn't speak. The writing just says "type h" for help. If you type "h" at the prompt, an amazing document of help appears. Did you get that far, Glenn? BRGDS, David On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 10:04 PM K0LNY wrote: > > Yeah, I got it to boot up, but I couldn't get into it, and I got no > guidance > on upgrading it, so it was a non-starter. > Anyway, I got Debian 11.7 installed, I just have to set up the WIFI > again. > Last time I did this, it was on the same i386 machine, but on a 32 gb SD > card in the card slot. > I wanted to put a good working image on the internal 4 GB SSD and then > make > an image of it, so I can restore it if I need to. > > Glenn > - Original Message - > From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." > To: "K0LNY" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 8:53 PM > Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service > > > Vinux 2.1 CLI Max is based on Lenny Debian 5.0.10, it's a x686 32bit > system. Works fine here. > > Vinux 3 and later are all based on Ubuntu and are (sadly) Graphic User > Interface. They have the Command Line Interface of course, but they > have a GUI already installed. > > BRGDS, > David > > On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 7:10 PM K0LNY wrote: > > > > Well I can't get the image to boot a second time. > > I may need to find a newer Vinux. > > I read the screen while it was trying to boot, with my iPhone, and > > this > > Vinux CLI only, is Debian 1.10.22. > > Glenn > > > > - Original Message - > > From: K0LNY > > To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 4:05 PM > > Subject: Old Debian and Starting A Service > > > > Hi, > > I thought I'd give this old Vinux 2.1 CLI a go on the Asus 701, to see > > if > > I can upgrade it little by little. > > I have been looking for older Debian commands to start SSH. > > I tried to apt-get install SSH, and it said it is already running the > > latest, which is the latest for it's package, which I don't know is > > Debian > > 2.1, because it's Vinux 2.1. > > But it does not know systemd or systemctl. > > So I don't know how to get the service running. > > It seems to have no WIFI, but I tried to find its IP address with > > hostname -I > > and it was before the capitol I was used, so I found the IP with a > > small > > I. > > But the connection is still refused. > > I tried to update, and it said it is updated already. > > I also don't know the upgrade command for older Debian. > > So if anyone remembers, thanks for any info. > > Glenn >
Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service
It's a live Command Line Interface CD. It boots into the system. h is for help. Or you can type the whole command "help". h or "help" opens up help.txt in nano. Capital V in "install Vinux to hard drive". Vinux CLI max comes with ssh server and client installed. menu runs pdmenu which is that ASCII graphics menu. n runs cnetworkmanager. It's all in help.txt which you can read (it speaks) with command h or "help" BRGDS, David On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 10:50 PM K0LNY wrote: > > I thought it said type help for help, and I kept trying typing help and got > no help. > > - Original Message - > From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." > To: "K0LNY" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 9:45 PM > Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service > > > Glenn, > > You said "Yeah, I got it to boot up but I couldn't get into it, and I > got no guidance > on upgrading it, so it was a non-starter.". > > If you're talking about Vinux 2.1 Debian CLI (we talked about the > Debian and the Ubuntu versions of Vinux, so I don't know which you are > referring to) it opens up talking with instructions. > > Vinux 2.1 is the best documented distro I've ever seen. > When it boots, it beeps, but do nothing, just wait 40 seconds, then > the prompt will appear. There is writing on the screen that doesn't > speak. > > The writing just says "type h" for help. > If you type "h" at the prompt, an amazing document of help appears. > > Did you get that far, Glenn? > > BRGDS, > David > > On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 10:04 PM K0LNY wrote: > > > > Yeah, I got it to boot up, but I couldn't get into it, and I got no > > guidance > > on upgrading it, so it was a non-starter. > > Anyway, I got Debian 11.7 installed, I just have to set up the WIFI again. > > Last time I did this, it was on the same i386 machine, but on a 32 gb SD > > card in the card slot. > > I wanted to put a good working image on the internal 4 GB SSD and then > > make > > an image of it, so I can restore it if I need to. > > > > Glenn > > - Original Message - > > From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." > > To: "K0LNY" > > Cc: > > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 8:53 PM > > Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service > > > > > > Vinux 2.1 CLI Max is based on Lenny Debian 5.0.10, it's a x686 32bit > > system. Works fine here. > > > > Vinux 3 and later are all based on Ubuntu and are (sadly) Graphic User > > Interface. They have the Command Line Interface of course, but they > > have a GUI already installed. > > > > BRGDS, > > David > > > > On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 7:10 PM K0LNY wrote: > > > > > > Well I can't get the image to boot a second time. > > > I may need to find a newer Vinux. > > > I read the screen while it was trying to boot, with my iPhone, and this > > > Vinux CLI only, is Debian 1.10.22. > > > Glenn > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: K0LNY > > > To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > > > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 4:05 PM > > > Subject: Old Debian and Starting A Service > > > > > > Hi, > > > I thought I'd give this old Vinux 2.1 CLI a go on the Asus 701, to see > > > if > > > I can upgrade it little by little. > > > I have been looking for older Debian commands to start SSH. > > > I tried to apt-get install SSH, and it said it is already running the > > > latest, which is the latest for it's package, which I don't know is > > > Debian > > > 2.1, because it's Vinux 2.1. > > > But it does not know systemd or systemctl. > > > So I don't know how to get the service running. > > > It seems to have no WIFI, but I tried to find its IP address with > > > hostname -I > > > and it was before the capitol I was used, so I found the IP with a small > > > I. > > > But the connection is still refused. > > > I tried to update, and it said it is updated already. > > > I also don't know the upgrade command for older Debian. > > > So if anyone remembers, thanks for any info. > > > Glenn > > >
Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service
I thought it said type help for help, and I kept trying typing help and got no help. - Original Message - From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." To: "K0LNY" Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 9:45 PM Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service Glenn, You said "Yeah, I got it to boot up but I couldn't get into it, and I got no guidance on upgrading it, so it was a non-starter.". If you're talking about Vinux 2.1 Debian CLI (we talked about the Debian and the Ubuntu versions of Vinux, so I don't know which you are referring to) it opens up talking with instructions. Vinux 2.1 is the best documented distro I've ever seen. When it boots, it beeps, but do nothing, just wait 40 seconds, then the prompt will appear. There is writing on the screen that doesn't speak. The writing just says "type h" for help. If you type "h" at the prompt, an amazing document of help appears. Did you get that far, Glenn? BRGDS, David On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 10:04 PM K0LNY wrote: Yeah, I got it to boot up, but I couldn't get into it, and I got no guidance on upgrading it, so it was a non-starter. Anyway, I got Debian 11.7 installed, I just have to set up the WIFI again. Last time I did this, it was on the same i386 machine, but on a 32 gb SD card in the card slot. I wanted to put a good working image on the internal 4 GB SSD and then make an image of it, so I can restore it if I need to. Glenn - Original Message - From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." To: "K0LNY" Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 8:53 PM Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service Vinux 2.1 CLI Max is based on Lenny Debian 5.0.10, it's a x686 32bit system. Works fine here. Vinux 3 and later are all based on Ubuntu and are (sadly) Graphic User Interface. They have the Command Line Interface of course, but they have a GUI already installed. BRGDS, David On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 7:10 PM K0LNY wrote: > > Well I can't get the image to boot a second time. > I may need to find a newer Vinux. > I read the screen while it was trying to boot, with my iPhone, and this > Vinux CLI only, is Debian 1.10.22. > Glenn > > - Original Message - > From: K0LNY > To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 4:05 PM > Subject: Old Debian and Starting A Service > > Hi, > I thought I'd give this old Vinux 2.1 CLI a go on the Asus 701, to see > if > I can upgrade it little by little. > I have been looking for older Debian commands to start SSH. > I tried to apt-get install SSH, and it said it is already running the > latest, which is the latest for it's package, which I don't know is > Debian > 2.1, because it's Vinux 2.1. > But it does not know systemd or systemctl. > So I don't know how to get the service running. > It seems to have no WIFI, but I tried to find its IP address with > hostname -I > and it was before the capitol I was used, so I found the IP with a small > I. > But the connection is still refused. > I tried to update, and it said it is updated already. > I also don't know the upgrade command for older Debian. > So if anyone remembers, thanks for any info. > Glenn
Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service
David, It booted and spoke with the prompt of vinux. I got the IP address it was using, but I couldn't get it to allow an SSH session. It would not update and I didn't know how to upgrade it. The next time I rebooted it, it wouldn't boot, so I scrapped it. I couldn't find any on-line documentation on it. Glenn - Original Message - From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." To: "K0LNY" Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 9:45 PM Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service Glenn, You said "Yeah, I got it to boot up but I couldn't get into it, and I got no guidance on upgrading it, so it was a non-starter.". If you're talking about Vinux 2.1 Debian CLI (we talked about the Debian and the Ubuntu versions of Vinux, so I don't know which you are referring to) it opens up talking with instructions. Vinux 2.1 is the best documented distro I've ever seen. When it boots, it beeps, but do nothing, just wait 40 seconds, then the prompt will appear. There is writing on the screen that doesn't speak. The writing just says "type h" for help. If you type "h" at the prompt, an amazing document of help appears. Did you get that far, Glenn? BRGDS, David On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 10:04 PM K0LNY wrote: Yeah, I got it to boot up, but I couldn't get into it, and I got no guidance on upgrading it, so it was a non-starter. Anyway, I got Debian 11.7 installed, I just have to set up the WIFI again. Last time I did this, it was on the same i386 machine, but on a 32 gb SD card in the card slot. I wanted to put a good working image on the internal 4 GB SSD and then make an image of it, so I can restore it if I need to. Glenn - Original Message - From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." To: "K0LNY" Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 8:53 PM Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service Vinux 2.1 CLI Max is based on Lenny Debian 5.0.10, it's a x686 32bit system. Works fine here. Vinux 3 and later are all based on Ubuntu and are (sadly) Graphic User Interface. They have the Command Line Interface of course, but they have a GUI already installed. BRGDS, David On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 7:10 PM K0LNY wrote: > > Well I can't get the image to boot a second time. > I may need to find a newer Vinux. > I read the screen while it was trying to boot, with my iPhone, and this > Vinux CLI only, is Debian 1.10.22. > Glenn > > - Original Message - > From: K0LNY > To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 4:05 PM > Subject: Old Debian and Starting A Service > > Hi, > I thought I'd give this old Vinux 2.1 CLI a go on the Asus 701, to see > if > I can upgrade it little by little. > I have been looking for older Debian commands to start SSH. > I tried to apt-get install SSH, and it said it is already running the > latest, which is the latest for it's package, which I don't know is > Debian > 2.1, because it's Vinux 2.1. > But it does not know systemd or systemctl. > So I don't know how to get the service running. > It seems to have no WIFI, but I tried to find its IP address with > hostname -I > and it was before the capitol I was used, so I found the IP with a small > I. > But the connection is still refused. > I tried to update, and it said it is updated already. > I also don't know the upgrade command for older Debian. > So if anyone remembers, thanks for any info. > Glenn
Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service
Glenn, You said "Yeah, I got it to boot up but I couldn't get into it, and I got no guidance on upgrading it, so it was a non-starter.". If you're talking about Vinux 2.1 Debian CLI (we talked about the Debian and the Ubuntu versions of Vinux, so I don't know which you are referring to) it opens up talking with instructions. Vinux 2.1 is the best documented distro I've ever seen. When it boots, it beeps, but do nothing, just wait 40 seconds, then the prompt will appear. There is writing on the screen that doesn't speak. The writing just says "type h" for help. If you type "h" at the prompt, an amazing document of help appears. Did you get that far, Glenn? BRGDS, David On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 10:04 PM K0LNY wrote: > > Yeah, I got it to boot up, but I couldn't get into it, and I got no guidance > on upgrading it, so it was a non-starter. > Anyway, I got Debian 11.7 installed, I just have to set up the WIFI again. > Last time I did this, it was on the same i386 machine, but on a 32 gb SD > card in the card slot. > I wanted to put a good working image on the internal 4 GB SSD and then make > an image of it, so I can restore it if I need to. > > Glenn > - Original Message - > From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." > To: "K0LNY" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 8:53 PM > Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service > > > Vinux 2.1 CLI Max is based on Lenny Debian 5.0.10, it's a x686 32bit > system. Works fine here. > > Vinux 3 and later are all based on Ubuntu and are (sadly) Graphic User > Interface. They have the Command Line Interface of course, but they > have a GUI already installed. > > BRGDS, > David > > On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 7:10 PM K0LNY wrote: > > > > Well I can't get the image to boot a second time. > > I may need to find a newer Vinux. > > I read the screen while it was trying to boot, with my iPhone, and this > > Vinux CLI only, is Debian 1.10.22. > > Glenn > > > > - Original Message - > > From: K0LNY > > To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 4:05 PM > > Subject: Old Debian and Starting A Service > > > > Hi, > > I thought I'd give this old Vinux 2.1 CLI a go on the Asus 701, to see if > > I can upgrade it little by little. > > I have been looking for older Debian commands to start SSH. > > I tried to apt-get install SSH, and it said it is already running the > > latest, which is the latest for it's package, which I don't know is Debian > > 2.1, because it's Vinux 2.1. > > But it does not know systemd or systemctl. > > So I don't know how to get the service running. > > It seems to have no WIFI, but I tried to find its IP address with > > hostname -I > > and it was before the capitol I was used, so I found the IP with a small > > I. > > But the connection is still refused. > > I tried to update, and it said it is updated already. > > I also don't know the upgrade command for older Debian. > > So if anyone remembers, thanks for any info. > > Glenn >
Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service
Yeah, I got it to boot up, but I couldn't get into it, and I got no guidance on upgrading it, so it was a non-starter. Anyway, I got Debian 11.7 installed, I just have to set up the WIFI again. Last time I did this, it was on the same i386 machine, but on a 32 gb SD card in the card slot. I wanted to put a good working image on the internal 4 GB SSD and then make an image of it, so I can restore it if I need to. Glenn - Original Message - From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." To: "K0LNY" Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 8:53 PM Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service Vinux 2.1 CLI Max is based on Lenny Debian 5.0.10, it's a x686 32bit system. Works fine here. Vinux 3 and later are all based on Ubuntu and are (sadly) Graphic User Interface. They have the Command Line Interface of course, but they have a GUI already installed. BRGDS, David On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 7:10 PM K0LNY wrote: Well I can't get the image to boot a second time. I may need to find a newer Vinux. I read the screen while it was trying to boot, with my iPhone, and this Vinux CLI only, is Debian 1.10.22. Glenn - Original Message - From: K0LNY To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 4:05 PM Subject: Old Debian and Starting A Service Hi, I thought I'd give this old Vinux 2.1 CLI a go on the Asus 701, to see if I can upgrade it little by little. I have been looking for older Debian commands to start SSH. I tried to apt-get install SSH, and it said it is already running the latest, which is the latest for it's package, which I don't know is Debian 2.1, because it's Vinux 2.1. But it does not know systemd or systemctl. So I don't know how to get the service running. It seems to have no WIFI, but I tried to find its IP address with hostname -I and it was before the capitol I was used, so I found the IP with a small I. But the connection is still refused. I tried to update, and it said it is updated already. I also don't know the upgrade command for older Debian. So if anyone remembers, thanks for any info. Glenn
Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service
Yes, that's the problem we are all having - all of us that want just CLI - are having. No networking after installation. That's why I recommended Vinux Debian CLI - but it will not install for you for some reason. It works on my computers. I even have it working on a USB stick with Ventoy. Ventoy is easy, you just copy the iso into the empty folder named "Ventoy" and those iso's will boot. I have no idea though if it's accessible because I look at the screen. RGDS, David On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 9:52 PM K0LNY wrote: > > Well I got the install to work, I think I went through this once before, but > forgot about it. > I had to use the DD option with Rufus for it to write the image properly to > the installation media. > But I'm having the same problem I had before, with no network. > I installed options > 11 12 & 13 > in the final installation, but it did not install any network stuff. > It does not even get an IP address over Ethernet. > It was connected to my WIFI during the installation, I selected my nttwork > and signed in. > This is 11.7 i386 net installation media. > Glenn > > - Original Message - > From: K0LNY > To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org ; Jason White > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 6:14 PM > Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service > > Here's the trouble with a current Debian, > I go through steps 1, 2, and 3, the latter being the keyboard selection. > Then, at that point, it tells me that it cannot find the installation media. > Really? > It booted to it! > So I try option 6, which is search for media, and it cannot find it. > I go into option 7, and elevate the install to medium, and try 6 again, and > it can't find the installation media. > So what do I do then? > Thanks for any help. > > Glenn > > > - Original Message ----- > From: Jason White > To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 4:51 PM > Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service > > > On 3/6/23 17:05, K0LNY wrote: > > I tried to apt-get install SSH, and it said it is already running the latest, > which is the latest for it's package, which I don't know is Debian 2.1, > because it's Vinux 2.1. > But it does not know systemd or systemctl. > So I don't know how to get the service running. > > Try /etc/init.d/ssh start > > You seem to be having a lot of difficulties with the basics of installing and > setting up a system that no one else does. > > Perhaps it would be better to contact a local Linux user's group and arrange > for someone to help you through the installation of a current Debian version.
Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service
Vinux 2.1 CLI Max is based on Lenny Debian 5.0.10, it's a x686 32bit system. Works fine here. Vinux 3 and later are all based on Ubuntu and are (sadly) Graphic User Interface. They have the Command Line Interface of course, but they have a GUI already installed. BRGDS, David On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 7:10 PM K0LNY wrote: > > Well I can't get the image to boot a second time. > I may need to find a newer Vinux. > I read the screen while it was trying to boot, with my iPhone, and this Vinux > CLI only, is Debian 1.10.22. > Glenn > > - Original Message - > From: K0LNY > To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 4:05 PM > Subject: Old Debian and Starting A Service > > Hi, > I thought I'd give this old Vinux 2.1 CLI a go on the Asus 701, to see if I > can upgrade it little by little. > I have been looking for older Debian commands to start SSH. > I tried to apt-get install SSH, and it said it is already running the latest, > which is the latest for it's package, which I don't know is Debian 2.1, > because it's Vinux 2.1. > But it does not know systemd or systemctl. > So I don't know how to get the service running. > It seems to have no WIFI, but I tried to find its IP address with > hostname -I > and it was before the capitol I was used, so I found the IP with a small I. > But the connection is still refused. > I tried to update, and it said it is updated already. > I also don't know the upgrade command for older Debian. > So if anyone remembers, thanks for any info. > Glenn
Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service
Well I got the install to work, I think I went through this once before, but forgot about it. I had to use the DD option with Rufus for it to write the image properly to the installation media. But I'm having the same problem I had before, with no network. I installed options 11 12 & 13 in the final installation, but it did not install any network stuff. It does not even get an IP address over Ethernet. It was connected to my WIFI during the installation, I selected my nttwork and signed in. This is 11.7 i386 net installation media. Glenn - Original Message - From: K0LNY To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org ; Jason White Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 6:14 PM Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service Here's the trouble with a current Debian, I go through steps 1, 2, and 3, the latter being the keyboard selection. Then, at that point, it tells me that it cannot find the installation media. Really? It booted to it! So I try option 6, which is search for media, and it cannot find it. I go into option 7, and elevate the install to medium, and try 6 again, and it can't find the installation media. So what do I do then? Thanks for any help. Glenn - Original Message - From: Jason White To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 4:51 PM Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service On 3/6/23 17:05, K0LNY wrote: I tried to apt-get install SSH, and it said it is already running the latest, which is the latest for it's package, which I don't know is Debian 2.1, because it's Vinux 2.1. But it does not know systemd or systemctl. So I don't know how to get the service running. Try /etc/init.d/ssh start You seem to be having a lot of difficulties with the basics of installing and setting up a system that no one else does. Perhaps it would be better to contact a local Linux user's group and arrange for someone to help you through the installation of a current Debian version.
Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service
Here's the trouble with a current Debian, I go through steps 1, 2, and 3, the latter being the keyboard selection. Then, at that point, it tells me that it cannot find the installation media. Really? It booted to it! So I try option 6, which is search for media, and it cannot find it. I go into option 7, and elevate the install to medium, and try 6 again, and it can't find the installation media. So what do I do then? Thanks for any help. Glenn - Original Message - From: Jason White To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 4:51 PM Subject: Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service On 3/6/23 17:05, K0LNY wrote: I tried to apt-get install SSH, and it said it is already running the latest, which is the latest for it's package, which I don't know is Debian 2.1, because it's Vinux 2.1. But it does not know systemd or systemctl. So I don't know how to get the service running. Try /etc/init.d/ssh start You seem to be having a lot of difficulties with the basics of installing and setting up a system that no one else does. Perhaps it would be better to contact a local Linux user's group and arrange for someone to help you through the installation of a current Debian version.
Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service
Well I can't get the image to boot a second time. I may need to find a newer Vinux. I read the screen while it was trying to boot, with my iPhone, and this Vinux CLI only, is Debian 1.10.22. Glenn - Original Message - From: K0LNY To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 4:05 PM Subject: Old Debian and Starting A Service Hi, I thought I'd give this old Vinux 2.1 CLI a go on the Asus 701, to see if I can upgrade it little by little. I have been looking for older Debian commands to start SSH. I tried to apt-get install SSH, and it said it is already running the latest, which is the latest for it's package, which I don't know is Debian 2.1, because it's Vinux 2.1. But it does not know systemd or systemctl. So I don't know how to get the service running. It seems to have no WIFI, but I tried to find its IP address with hostname -I and it was before the capitol I was used, so I found the IP with a small I. But the connection is still refused. I tried to update, and it said it is updated already. I also don't know the upgrade command for older Debian. So if anyone remembers, thanks for any info. Glenn
Re: Old Debian and Starting A Service
On 3/6/23 17:05, K0LNY wrote: I tried to apt-get install SSH, and it said it is already running the latest, which is the latest for it's package, which I don't know is Debian 2.1, because it's Vinux 2.1. But it does not know systemd or systemctl. So I don't know how to get the service running. Try /etc/init.d/ssh start You seem to be having a lot of difficulties with the basics of installing and setting up a system that no one else does. Perhaps it would be better to contact a local Linux user's group and arrange for someone to help you through the installation of a current Debian version.
Old Debian and Starting A Service
Hi, I thought I'd give this old Vinux 2.1 CLI a go on the Asus 701, to see if I can upgrade it little by little. I have been looking for older Debian commands to start SSH. I tried to apt-get install SSH, and it said it is already running the latest, which is the latest for it's package, which I don't know is Debian 2.1, because it's Vinux 2.1. But it does not know systemd or systemctl. So I don't know how to get the service running. It seems to have no WIFI, but I tried to find its IP address with hostname -I and it was before the capitol I was used, so I found the IP with a small I. But the connection is still refused. I tried to update, and it said it is updated already. I also don't know the upgrade command for older Debian. So if anyone remembers, thanks for any info. Glenn
