Re: problem with speech in latest debian installer dailies

2014-02-24 Thread am_dxer


On Mon, Feb 24, 2014, at 01:21 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Cyril Brulebois  (2014-02-24):
> > So if 20140207-00:17 works and 20140209-00:16 doesn't, here's the diff of 
> > udeb.list:
> > 
> > “pure” d-i side:
> > -di-utils 1.102 amd64
> > -di-utils-reboot 1.102 all
> > -di-utils-shell 1.102 all
> > -di-utils-terminfo 1.102 amd64
> > +di-utils 1.103 amd64
> > +di-utils-reboot 1.103 all
> > +di-utils-shell 1.103 all
> > +di-utils-terminfo 1.103 amd64
> > 
> > This change is included in that debian-installer-utils update:
> >   
> > http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=d-i/debian-installer-utils.git;a=commit;h=9c6685364a56697ea9c590e1bc93a73ade88b679
> > 
> > and I suspect it might have to do with the hang. I'll try to debug
> > that in the upcoming hour(s).
> 
> Confirmed, and now tracked here:
>   http://bugs.debian.org/739989
> 
> Thanks for reporting! (And for bisecting, it saved me a lot of testing

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Re: problem with speech in latest debian installer dailies

2014-02-24 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Cyril Brulebois  (2014-02-24):
> So if 20140207-00:17 works and 20140209-00:16 doesn't, here's the diff of 
> udeb.list:
> 
> “pure” d-i side:
> -di-utils 1.102 amd64
> -di-utils-reboot 1.102 all
> -di-utils-shell 1.102 all
> -di-utils-terminfo 1.102 amd64
> +di-utils 1.103 amd64
> +di-utils-reboot 1.103 all
> +di-utils-shell 1.103 all
> +di-utils-terminfo 1.103 amd64
> 
> This change is included in that debian-installer-utils update:
>   
> http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=d-i/debian-installer-utils.git;a=commit;h=9c6685364a56697ea9c590e1bc93a73ade88b679
> 
> and I suspect it might have to do with the hang. I'll try to debug
> that in the upcoming hour(s).

Confirmed, and now tracked here:
  http://bugs.debian.org/739989

Thanks for reporting! (And for bisecting, it saved me a lot of testing ;))

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Re: problem with speech in latest debian installer dailies

2014-02-24 Thread Cyril Brulebois
am_d...@fastmail.fm  (2014-02-24):
> I did some testing of the daily builds from d-i.debian.org. It appears
> that the first one that is broken as far as speech is concerned is
> http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/20140209-00:16/netboot/gtk/mini.iso
> I hope this might help narrow down where the bug was introduced. One
> thing that I also noticed is that a few of the gtk images before this
> one failed to build, however, the last successful build before the
> failed builds did have working speech. 

So if 20140207-00:17 works and 20140209-00:16 doesn't, here's the diff of 
udeb.list:

“pure” d-i side:
-di-utils 1.102 amd64
-di-utils-reboot 1.102 all
-di-utils-shell 1.102 all
-di-utils-terminfo 1.102 amd64
+di-utils 1.103 amd64
+di-utils-reboot 1.103 all
+di-utils-shell 1.103 all
+di-utils-terminfo 1.103 amd64

This change is included in that debian-installer-utils update:
  
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=d-i/debian-installer-utils.git;a=commit;h=9c6685364a56697ea9c590e1bc93a73ade88b679

and I suspect it might have to do with the hang. I'll try to debug
that in the upcoming hour(s).


X side:
+libxshmfence1-udeb 1.1-2 amd64
-xserver-xorg-core-udeb 2:1.14.5-1 amd64
-xserver-xorg-input-evdev-udeb 1:2.8.2-1 amd64
-xserver-xorg-video-fbdev-udeb 1:0.4.4-1 amd64
+xserver-xorg-core-udeb 2:1.15.0-2 amd64
+xserver-xorg-input-evdev-udeb 1:2.8.2-1+b1 amd64
+xserver-xorg-video-fbdev-udeb 1:0.4.4-1+b1 amd64

This is probably totally irrelevant.

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Re: problem with speech in latest debian installer dailies

2014-02-24 Thread am_dxer
I did some testing of the daily builds from d-i.debian.org. It appears
that the first one that is broken as far as speech is concerned is
http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/20140209-00:16/netboot/gtk/mini.iso
I hope this might help narrow down where the bug was introduced. One
thing that I also noticed is that a few of the gtk images before this
one failed to build, however, the last successful build before the
failed builds did have working speech. 


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Re: problem with speech in latest debian installer dailies

2014-02-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
am_d...@fastmail.fm, le Mon 24 Feb 2014 09:59:10 -0500, a écrit :
> I apologize for this mix up. The working iso was actually
> http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/installer-amd64/20140208/images/netboot/gtk/mini.iso.
> I read somewhere that speech was only on the gtk cd's which is why I
> used that image although I could be wrong about this as I read it a
> while ago and things might have changed.

Simply see the official Debian Installer documentation: 

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s02.html#idp6206528

It really is the gtk images.  By space constraints design, actually.

The issue you reported may be related to differing espeak versions, I'm
having a look.

Samuel


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Re: problem with speech in latest debian installer dailies

2014-02-24 Thread am_dxer
I apologize for this mix up. The working iso was actually
http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/installer-amd64/20140208/images/netboot/gtk/mini.iso.
I read somewhere that speech was only on the gtk cd's which is why I
used that image although I could be wrong about this as I read it a
while ago and things might have changed.


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Re: problem with speech in latest debian installer dailies

2014-02-24 Thread am_dxer
Thank you very much for your quick and helpful reply. I tried the
following image and speech as well as braille worked.
http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/installer-amd64/20140208/images/netboot/mini.iso
The image that I tried this morning where speech was not working is
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso
The date from this iso was 2014-02-24 05:04 as I tried a newer build
from today when I did the testing in my second message. IF there is any
more info that I could provide that would be helpful let me know.


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Re: problem with speech in latest debian installer dailies

2014-02-24 Thread Cyril Brulebois
am_d...@fastmail.fm  (2014-02-24):
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014, at 11:27 PM, am_d...@fastmail.fm wrote:
> > I tried to install debian testing today using the installer images. I
> > grabbed the latest amd64 image and got no speech after I started the
> > installation with s and then enter from the boot menu.. I asked someone
> > sighted what was going on and they said that there was a bar going back
> > and forth at the bottom of the screen like something was loading. I left
> > this go for a minute or so and nothing happened. According to them, the
> > gui installer worked just fine when I selected that from the menu. I
> > also tried a weekly image and got no speech. Can anyone else reproduce
> > this?
> 
> I have done some more testing this morning. I booted the installer with
> a braille display connected. The message showed on the braille display
> that brltty was starting and then the display went blank. As a
> troubleshooting step, I went to another terminal and killed the espeakup
> process. As soon as I returned to the installer on tty 1, braille was
> working and a message showed on the display that localization had failed
> and that I could press enter to continue which took me to the main menu.
> I didn't do an install past this point but when I selected a few menu
> items they seemed to load normally. Please let me know if there is any
> other information that I can provide that would assist with tracking
> this down.

Hi,

it would be helpful to try what's available in unstable:
  
http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/installer-amd64/20140208/images/

so that we can spot whether that's a regression over the past few days,
or whether the regression was in the uploaded debian-installer package
already.

I seem to recall speech synthesis was OK when I uploaded the images,
which I tested on amd64. I haven't checked the dailies yet.

(It would also help to mention which exact image you're using, cdrom,
netboot, etc.)

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Re: problem with speech in latest debian installer dailies

2014-02-24 Thread am_dxer


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014, at 11:27 PM, am_d...@fastmail.fm wrote:
> I tried to install debian testing today using the installer images. I
> grabbed the latest amd64 image and got no speech after I started the
> installation with s and then enter from the boot menu.. I asked someone
> sighted what was going on and they said that there was a bar going back
> and forth at the bottom of the screen like something was loading. I left
> this go for a minute or so and nothing happened. According to them, the
> gui installer worked just fine when I selected that from the menu. I
> also tried a weekly image and got no speech. Can anyone else reproduce
> this?

I have done some more testing this morning. I booted the installer with
a braille display connected. The message showed on the braille display
that brltty was starting and then the display went blank. As a
troubleshooting step, I went to another terminal and killed the espeakup
process. As soon as I returned to the installer on tty 1, braille was
working and a message showed on the display that localization had failed
and that I could press enter to continue which took me to the main menu.
I didn't do an install past this point but when I selected a few menu
items they seemed to load normally. Please let me know if there is any
other information that I can provide that would assist with tracking
this down.


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