Re: problem with speech in latest debian installer dailies

2014-02-24 Thread am_dxer


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014, at 11:27 PM, am_d...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 I tried to install debian testing today using the installer images. I
 grabbed the latest amd64 image and got no speech after I started the
 installation with s and then enter from the boot menu.. I asked someone
 sighted what was going on and they said that there was a bar going back
 and forth at the bottom of the screen like something was loading. I left
 this go for a minute or so and nothing happened. According to them, the
 gui installer worked just fine when I selected that from the menu. I
 also tried a weekly image and got no speech. Can anyone else reproduce
 this?

I have done some more testing this morning. I booted the installer with
a braille display connected. The message showed on the braille display
that brltty was starting and then the display went blank. As a
troubleshooting step, I went to another terminal and killed the espeakup
process. As soon as I returned to the installer on tty 1, braille was
working and a message showed on the display that localization had failed
and that I could press enter to continue which took me to the main menu.
I didn't do an install past this point but when I selected a few menu
items they seemed to load normally. Please let me know if there is any
other information that I can provide that would assist with tracking
this down.


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Re: problem with speech in latest debian installer dailies

2014-02-24 Thread Cyril Brulebois
am_d...@fastmail.fm am_d...@fastmail.fm (2014-02-24):
 
 
 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014, at 11:27 PM, am_d...@fastmail.fm wrote:
  I tried to install debian testing today using the installer images. I
  grabbed the latest amd64 image and got no speech after I started the
  installation with s and then enter from the boot menu.. I asked someone
  sighted what was going on and they said that there was a bar going back
  and forth at the bottom of the screen like something was loading. I left
  this go for a minute or so and nothing happened. According to them, the
  gui installer worked just fine when I selected that from the menu. I
  also tried a weekly image and got no speech. Can anyone else reproduce
  this?
 
 I have done some more testing this morning. I booted the installer with
 a braille display connected. The message showed on the braille display
 that brltty was starting and then the display went blank. As a
 troubleshooting step, I went to another terminal and killed the espeakup
 process. As soon as I returned to the installer on tty 1, braille was
 working and a message showed on the display that localization had failed
 and that I could press enter to continue which took me to the main menu.
 I didn't do an install past this point but when I selected a few menu
 items they seemed to load normally. Please let me know if there is any
 other information that I can provide that would assist with tracking
 this down.

Hi,

it would be helpful to try what's available in unstable:
  
http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/installer-amd64/20140208/images/

so that we can spot whether that's a regression over the past few days,
or whether the regression was in the uploaded debian-installer package
already.

I seem to recall speech synthesis was OK when I uploaded the images,
which I tested on amd64. I haven't checked the dailies yet.

(It would also help to mention which exact image you're using, cdrom,
netboot, etc.)

Mraw,
KiBi.


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Re: problem with speech in latest debian installer dailies

2014-02-24 Thread am_dxer
Thank you very much for your quick and helpful reply. I tried the
following image and speech as well as braille worked.
http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/installer-amd64/20140208/images/netboot/mini.iso
The image that I tried this morning where speech was not working is
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso
The date from this iso was 2014-02-24 05:04 as I tried a newer build
from today when I did the testing in my second message. IF there is any
more info that I could provide that would be helpful let me know.


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Re: problem with speech in latest debian installer dailies

2014-02-24 Thread am_dxer
I apologize for this mix up. The working iso was actually
http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/installer-amd64/20140208/images/netboot/gtk/mini.iso.
I read somewhere that speech was only on the gtk cd's which is why I
used that image although I could be wrong about this as I read it a
while ago and things might have changed.


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Re: problem with speech in latest debian installer dailies

2014-02-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
am_d...@fastmail.fm, le Mon 24 Feb 2014 09:59:10 -0500, a écrit :
 I apologize for this mix up. The working iso was actually
 http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/installer-amd64/20140208/images/netboot/gtk/mini.iso.
 I read somewhere that speech was only on the gtk cd's which is why I
 used that image although I could be wrong about this as I read it a
 while ago and things might have changed.

Simply see the official Debian Installer documentation: 

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s02.html#idp6206528

It really is the gtk images.  By space constraints design, actually.

The issue you reported may be related to differing espeak versions, I'm
having a look.

Samuel


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Re: problem with speech in latest debian installer dailies

2014-02-24 Thread am_dxer
I did some testing of the daily builds from d-i.debian.org. It appears
that the first one that is broken as far as speech is concerned is
http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/20140209-00:16/netboot/gtk/mini.iso
I hope this might help narrow down where the bug was introduced. One
thing that I also noticed is that a few of the gtk images before this
one failed to build, however, the last successful build before the
failed builds did have working speech. 


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Re: problem with speech in latest debian installer dailies

2014-02-24 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (2014-02-24):
 So if 20140207-00:17 works and 20140209-00:16 doesn't, here's the diff of 
 udeb.list:
 
 “pure” d-i side:
 -di-utils 1.102 amd64
 -di-utils-reboot 1.102 all
 -di-utils-shell 1.102 all
 -di-utils-terminfo 1.102 amd64
 +di-utils 1.103 amd64
 +di-utils-reboot 1.103 all
 +di-utils-shell 1.103 all
 +di-utils-terminfo 1.103 amd64
 
 This change is included in that debian-installer-utils update:
   
 http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=d-i/debian-installer-utils.git;a=commit;h=9c6685364a56697ea9c590e1bc93a73ade88b679
 
 and I suspect it might have to do with the hang. I'll try to debug
 that in the upcoming hour(s).

Confirmed, and now tracked here:
  http://bugs.debian.org/739989

Thanks for reporting! (And for bisecting, it saved me a lot of testing ;))

Mraw,
KiBi.


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Re: problem with speech in latest debian installer dailies

2014-02-24 Thread am_dxer


On Mon, Feb 24, 2014, at 01:21 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (2014-02-24):
  So if 20140207-00:17 works and 20140209-00:16 doesn't, here's the diff of 
  udeb.list:
  
  “pure” d-i side:
  -di-utils 1.102 amd64
  -di-utils-reboot 1.102 all
  -di-utils-shell 1.102 all
  -di-utils-terminfo 1.102 amd64
  +di-utils 1.103 amd64
  +di-utils-reboot 1.103 all
  +di-utils-shell 1.103 all
  +di-utils-terminfo 1.103 amd64
  
  This change is included in that debian-installer-utils update:

  http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=d-i/debian-installer-utils.git;a=commit;h=9c6685364a56697ea9c590e1bc93a73ade88b679
  
  and I suspect it might have to do with the hang. I'll try to debug
  that in the upcoming hour(s).
 
 Confirmed, and now tracked here:
   http://bugs.debian.org/739989
 
 Thanks for reporting! (And for bisecting, it saved me a lot of testing

Thanks to you and everyone on this list who work on accessibility. These
tools are used by a small minority of people but I think I can speak for
everyone that uses them that the time that is spent ensuring that they
function is greatly appreciated!


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problem with speech in latest debian installer dailies

2014-02-23 Thread am_dxer
I tried to install debian testing today using the installer images. I
grabbed the latest amd64 image and got no speech after I started the
installation with s and then enter from the boot menu.. I asked someone
sighted what was going on and they said that there was a bar going back
and forth at the bottom of the screen like something was loading. I left
this go for a minute or so and nothing happened. According to them, the
gui installer worked just fine when I selected that from the menu. I
also tried a weekly image and got no speech. Can anyone else reproduce
this?


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