Re: Netscape crashing [Fwd: Re: Re: Browser for Multia]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sites that crash Netscape 4.78 on my Alphas. www.zend.com (uses PHP) www.oceanatlas.org (uses JSP) www.ebay.com (uses static HTML) www.c-span.org Going to these and others results in an instant Netscape crash for me. The source is supposed to available at mozilla.org but I only see Mozilla itself there, not Commuicator. My build of Mozilla 2.6 took up 2 Gig of disk space (wow). It doesn't crash going to those sites, but it is incredibly slow, 50 sec. just to come up on the XP1000. Is the Netscape really open. Netscape is an antiquated, buggy, spec-nonconforming, unreliable piece of shit. The source of the Netscape browser evolved into the Mozilla project. Don't use Netscape 4.x unless you absolutely have to. These days web designers use features (such as CSS) that Netscape simply does not implement properly. Fixing these bugs is such a large undertaking that the Netscape team abandoned the original 4.x source and started from scratch, a project now known as Mozilla. There are many open browsers available in the debian/alpha binary archive, such as mozilla, konqueror, galeon, epiphany-browser, and mozilla-firebird. They're already compiled in the archive, you shouldn't need to compile it yourself. Cheers, Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own governors, must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives. A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy or perhaps both. - James Madison pgpPejXh3fVwn.pgp Description: PGP signature
boot loader
Hi all I have been traying to install Debian GNU/Linux on my Alpha server 800 and I have a little problem with aboot loader When I made the partitions (bsd disklabel style) I left an small empty partition at the beginning of the disk drive (from cylinder 1 to cylinder 2) for aboot, later the instaler program cannot install the aboot boot loader, I think the proble it could be the type of partition label. What kind of partition label it need to be? (unsused, 4.2BSD, boot, ...) TIA. -- Leonardo Saavedra Henriquez mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [leo- ~ $] cd pub more beer
Re: boot loader
The disk needs to be have a BSD disklabel, but you don't want a partition at the front. Just leave some free space. You're probably OK just deleting your existing small partition. --rdp On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Leonardo Saavedra Henriquez wrote: Hi all I have been traying to install Debian GNU/Linux on my Alpha server 800 and I have a little problem with aboot loader When I made the partitions (bsd disklabel style) I left an small empty partition at the beginning of the disk drive (from cylinder 1 to cylinder 2) for aboot, later the instaler program cannot install the aboot boot loader, I think the proble it could be the type of partition label. What kind of partition label it need to be? (unsused, 4.2BSD, boot, ...) TIA. -- Leonardo Saavedra Henriquez mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [leo- ~ $] cd pub more beer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rich Payne http://talisman.mv.com rdp at talisman dot mv dot com
Re: boot loader
Thanks Rich and Michael!. But I have yet another small problem. I left a small empty space in front of the disk drive, Now the debian installer made my system booteable without any complain. when the system has been rebooted it start, jumps to bootstrap code and write in the console the meesage: aboot: Linux/Alpha SRM bootloader version 0.9 aboot: switching to OSF/1 PALcode version 1.21 aboot: valid disklabel found: 6 partitions aboot: could not find default config `a' Welcome to aboot 0.9 Commands: ... aboot and stop!. Aparently the reason to stop is that it internally gives the command: boot dka0 -flags a When I give the command: aboot boot dka0 -flags 0 the system start Debian/GNU Linux normally. How can I change permanently the flags option from the SRM console? TIA What's wrong? TIA On 11 Sep 2003, Michael A. Mackey wrote: That way of partitioning the disk won't work. Delete your small partition and everything should be okay (you'll need to re-run swriteboot). The correct way to partition the disk is to start partition 1 at sector 3, leaving unpartitioned space up front for the aboot loader. On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 12:31, Leonardo Saavedra Henriquez wrote: Hi all I have been traying to install Debian GNU/Linux on my Alpha server 800 and I have a little problem with aboot loader When I made the partitions (bsd disklabel style) I left an small empty partition at the beginning of the disk drive (from cylinder 1 to cylinder 2) for aboot, later the instaler program cannot install the aboot boot loader, I think the proble it could be the type of partition label. What kind of partition label it need to be? (unsused, 4.2BSD, boot, ...) TIA. -- Leonardo Saavedra Henriquez mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [leo- ~ $] cd pub more beer -- Prof. Michael A. Mackey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Biomedical Engineering / Pathology University of Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa Voice: 319-335-6058 Fax: 319-335-5631 -- Leonardo Saavedra Henriquez mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [leo- ~ $] cd pub more beer -- Leonardo Saavedra Henriquez mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [leo- ~ $] cd pub more beer
Re: Netscape crashing [Fwd: Re: Re: Browser for Multia]
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 18:54, Bob McElrath wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Netscape is an antiquated, buggy, spec-nonconforming, unreliable piece of shit. The source of the Netscape browser evolved into the Mozilla project. Don't use Netscape 4.x unless you absolutely have to. These days web designers use features (such as CSS) that Netscape simply does not implement properly. Fixing these bugs is such a large undertaking that the Netscape team abandoned the original 4.x source and started from scratch, a project now known as Mozilla. There are many open browsers available in the debian/alpha binary archive, such as mozilla, konqueror, galeon, epiphany-browser, and mozilla-firebird. They're already compiled in the archive, you shouldn't need to compile it yourself. And none of them work in a decent manner. It seems that JavaScript doesn't work either with konqueror 3.x, nor with mozilla 1.0.x, nor with mozilla 1.4.x, nor with self compiled mozillas. I still don't know what should I do on the alpha in order to book a flight ticket at www.aua.com. Except for calling them. Which is what I finally did. :) Cheers. Ionut
Re: boot loader
Thus spake Leonardo Saavedra Henriquez: How can I change permanently the flags option from the SRM console? I believe you're looking for: set boot_osflags 0 -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. - Samuel Johnson pgphZbiGF1fsN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: boot loader
From SRM you should be able to do: set boot_osflags 0 --rdp On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Leonardo Saavedra Henriquez wrote: Thanks Rich and Michael!. But I have yet another small problem. I left a small empty space in front of the disk drive, Now the debian installer made my system booteable without any complain. when the system has been rebooted it start, jumps to bootstrap code and write in the console the meesage: aboot: Linux/Alpha SRM bootloader version 0.9 aboot: switching to OSF/1 PALcode version 1.21 aboot: valid disklabel found: 6 partitions aboot: could not find default config `a' Welcome to aboot 0.9 Commands: ... aboot and stop!. Aparently the reason to stop is that it internally gives the command: boot dka0 -flags a When I give the command: aboot boot dka0 -flags 0 the system start Debian/GNU Linux normally. How can I change permanently the flags option from the SRM console? TIA What's wrong? TIA On 11 Sep 2003, Michael A. Mackey wrote: That way of partitioning the disk won't work. Delete your small partition and everything should be okay (you'll need to re-run swriteboot). The correct way to partition the disk is to start partition 1 at sector 3, leaving unpartitioned space up front for the aboot loader. On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 12:31, Leonardo Saavedra Henriquez wrote: Hi all I have been traying to install Debian GNU/Linux on my Alpha server 800 and I have a little problem with aboot loader When I made the partitions (bsd disklabel style) I left an small empty partition at the beginning of the disk drive (from cylinder 1 to cylinder 2) for aboot, later the instaler program cannot install the aboot boot loader, I think the proble it could be the type of partition label. What kind of partition label it need to be? (unsused, 4.2BSD, boot, ...) TIA. -- Leonardo Saavedra Henriquez mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [leo- ~ $] cd pub more beer -- Prof. Michael A. Mackey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Biomedical Engineering / Pathology University of Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa Voice: 319-335-6058 Fax: 319-335-5631 -- Leonardo Saavedra Henriquez mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [leo- ~ $] cd pub more beer -- Leonardo Saavedra Henriquez mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [leo- ~ $] cd pub more beer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rich Payne http://talisman.mv.com rdp at talisman dot mv dot com
Re: boot loader
Or you can change the settings in /etc/aboot.conf to reflect what you want passed to aboot. This way you can still auto boot. Otherwise, hit ctl-c lots of times to get back to SRM (while booting). Set the boot_os (I think) flag to 0 or none (I don't recall the value). And it will pause in SRM for you to give it what you want. James James Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 59959089 AIM: spledos MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. - Antoine de Saint Exupery On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Leonardo Saavedra Henriquez wrote: Thanks Rich and Michael!. But I have yet another small problem. I left a small empty space in front of the disk drive, Now the debian installer made my system booteable without any complain. when the system has been rebooted it start, jumps to bootstrap code and write in the console the meesage: aboot: Linux/Alpha SRM bootloader version 0.9 aboot: switching to OSF/1 PALcode version 1.21 aboot: valid disklabel found: 6 partitions aboot: could not find default config `a' Welcome to aboot 0.9 Commands: ... aboot and stop!. Aparently the reason to stop is that it internally gives the command: boot dka0 -flags a When I give the command: aboot boot dka0 -flags 0 the system start Debian/GNU Linux normally. How can I change permanently the flags option from the SRM console? TIA What's wrong? TIA On 11 Sep 2003, Michael A. Mackey wrote: That way of partitioning the disk won't work. Delete your small partition and everything should be okay (you'll need to re-run swriteboot). The correct way to partition the disk is to start partition 1 at sector 3, leaving unpartitioned space up front for the aboot loader. On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 12:31, Leonardo Saavedra Henriquez wrote: Hi all I have been traying to install Debian GNU/Linux on my Alpha server 800 and I have a little problem with aboot loader When I made the partitions (bsd disklabel style) I left an small empty partition at the beginning of the disk drive (from cylinder 1 to cylinder 2) for aboot, later the instaler program cannot install the aboot boot loader, I think the proble it could be the type of partition label. What kind of partition label it need to be? (unsused, 4.2BSD, boot, ...) TIA. -- Leonardo Saavedra Henriquez mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [leo- ~ $] cd pub more beer -- Prof. Michael A. Mackey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Biomedical Engineering / Pathology University of Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa Voice: 319-335-6058 Fax: 319-335-5631 -- Leonardo Saavedra Henriquez mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [leo- ~ $] cd pub more beer -- Leonardo Saavedra Henriquez mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [leo- ~ $] cd pub more beer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel upgrade from 2.2.20 to 2.4.18
Title: Kernel upgrade from 2.2.20 to 2.4.18 Hi: I recently installed Woody 30r1 on an AlphaServer 800 without a hitch. I wanted some of the RAID and LVM options, and so went to upgrade my kernel to a 2.4.18 version. I am new to linux, so I am sure I am just missing something! Currently, it is running well using the 2.2.20-generic kernel (no customizations). I used the apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-generic and installed the kernel (without configuring a ram disk image - BTW - why would I need a ram disk?). When I reboot, it panics when it tries to mount the root fs VFS: Cannot open root device sda1 or 08:01 - it seems this is a fairly common occurrence (I browsed through usenet) - but the reasons vary from kernel config options to aboot configs. I looked at aboot.conf, and the sda1 (my first partition) is configured as my boot partition (filesystem is ext2). I browsed through the config-2.4.18-generic file and it lists support for my SCSI disks and for ext2 ... I can choose vmlinuz.old from the aboot menu and boot up just fine (VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem)) - what am I missing here? Thank You, Chandi
Re: Kernel upgrade from 2.2.20 to 2.4.18
On Thursday, 11 September 2003 at 13:42:34 -0700, Hunt, Chandi wrote: Currently, it is running well using the 2.2.20-generic kernel (no customizations). I used the apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-generic and installed the kernel (without configuring a ram disk image - BTW - why would I need a ram disk?). You would, because: When I reboot, it panics when it tries to mount the root fs VFS: Cannot open root device sda1 or 08:01 - it seems this is a fairly common occurrence (I browsed through usenet) - but the reasons vary from kernel config options to aboot configs. All the disk and filesystem drivers are built as modules and are contained on the initrd ramdisk. Try reinstalling the kernel deb (or maybe just run a dpkg-reconfigure kernel-image-2.4.18-generic? Can't check from home, but may suffice) and have it build the initrd image. And make sure the aboot.conf line has initrd=/initrd.img added to it. That should do the job! Cheers, Sander -- Sander van Malssen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.kozmix.org/ http://www.peteandtommysdayout.com/ -- http://www.1-2-5.net/
