Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-15 Thread Aneesh Kumar K.V
Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 05:07:49PM -0400, Andrew Diller wrote:
I used the one at:

http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/alpha/current/

but I'll try again and leave some space at the top of the disk for 
aboot. What does it need, a few megs?

Less than 1MB.  A single sector should be sufficient.

I guess this should be fixed. I found it very confusing. Atleast when i 
say continue we should make aboot complain about this. It already 
complains about /boot not being ext2. Is it possible to add this check 
for a small partition there ?

How are we planning to fix this ?
-aneesh



Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-15 Thread Andrew Diller
Thanks for the tips, I'll try the build from 6/15 then.
On Jul 14, 2004, at 6:30 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
You may also want to wait until tomorrow's daily, as it turns out the
sid_d-i dailies for alpha have been off-line for the better part of a
month and I'm not sure of the status of the last build.  The builds 
should
be happening daily as of tomorrow, however.
 - Andrew Diller  -
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Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:39:28AM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> Steve Langasek wrote:
> >On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 05:07:49PM -0400, Andrew Diller wrote:

> >>I used the one at:

> >>http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/alpha/current/

> >>but I'll try again and leave some space at the top of the disk for 
> >>aboot. What does it need, a few megs?

> >Less than 1MB.  A single sector should be sufficient.

> I guess this should be fixed. I found it very confusing. Atleast when i 
> say continue we should make aboot complain about this. It already 
> complains about /boot not being ext2. Is it possible to add this check 
> for a small partition there ?

> How are we planning to fix this ?

aboot-installer needs to be updated to force the creation of a small
partition #1 reserved for its own use at the front of the disk containing
the /boot directory.

I expect to work on this later in the month, but don't object to someone 
beating me to it.

-- 
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer




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Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-15 Thread Rob Dupcak
Hi,
Do the daily builds have Tulip driver support? (Or will they?)
Or asked another way...
Is there an easy way of telling if a specific daily build has a particular 
feature?  (Aside from trying to install it yet again?)

Thanks,
Rob
Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 05:36:49PM -0400, Andrew Diller wrote:
OK I try with one meg free. I actually have 2 xp1000s, one I'll use for 
a more stable machine with beta4, the other I can test the dailies and 
see what's up.

Please note that there is no substantial difference between beta4 and the
dailies in terms of the installed system, the differences are only in the
installer itself.  Also, beta4 doesn't work very well; I think at this
point it may be broken on all architectures, if memory serves.  You're
better off sticking to the dailies.
You may also want to wait until tomorrow's daily, as it turns out the
sid_d-i dailies for alpha have been off-line for the better part of a
month and I'm not sure of the status of the last build.  The builds should
be happening daily as of tomorrow, however.

So far Sarge looks nice. It's been a few years since I played with 
Debian, mostly it was on my Ipaq. I am thinking of using this alpha 
with Sarge and migrating over from an athalon RHEL 3.1 server. I'm 
getting sick of RH.

:)




Re: Problem with md autodetect on Alpha platform?

2004-07-15 Thread J. Dub
Thank you, Steve!!!
I got mirrored root without initrd disk, I just start vmlinuz with raid 
parameters.

0:1/vmlinuz ro root=/dev/md3 console=ttyS1 md=3,/dev/sda3,/dev/sdb3
aboot.conf is taken from non-raid boot partition. Raid for root device is 
forced to start during start-up.
The other partitions are started by /etc/init.d/raid2 script.

BR,
Dub
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aboot and serial console

2004-07-15 Thread J. Dub
Hi,
I have normal access to aboot  (0.9-1)from both graphical console and 
COM2 port.
However, there is an annoying exception.

When calling interactive boot by
boot dka0 -fl "i"
I get the choice menu only on primary console!
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance!
BR,
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Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-15 Thread Andrew Diller
I don't see anything new at:
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/alpha/
will the build happen today, as in before 2400 EST?
-andy
On Jul 14, 2004, at 6:30 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
You may also want to wait until tomorrow's daily, as it turns out the
sid_d-i dailies for alpha have been off-line for the better part of a
month and I'm not sure of the status of the last build.  The builds 
should
be happening daily as of tomorrow, however.
 - Andrew Diller  -
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Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-15 Thread Michael Galloway
Hi Andrew!

there is a build out from yesterday:

http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/alpha/20040714/

-- me

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Andrew Diller wrote:

> I don't see anything new at:
> 
> http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/alpha/
> 
> will the build happen today, as in before 2400 EST?
> 
> -andy
> 
> 
> On Jul 14, 2004, at 6:30 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> >You may also want to wait until tomorrow's daily, as it turns out the
> >sid_d-i dailies for alpha have been off-line for the better part of a
> >month and I'm not sure of the status of the last build.  The builds 
> >should
> >be happening daily as of tomorrow, however.
>  - Andrew Diller  -
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making room for aboot on sarge inst

2004-07-15 Thread Andrew Diller
Ok, the install fails due to no room being make at the beginning of the 
disk for aboot.

---
Now, manually partitioning seems to be almost impossible, unless I'm 
overcomplicating it.

Note: I have many years of Tru64 4.x and 5.x and linux manually 
partitioning of disklabels, I know the bsd and bios differences etc. 
etc. Also disklabel=partition table

This XP100 has a compaq scsi disk, so it's using a bsd disklabel. I 
don't know if ide drives on these use a dos type bios partition 
table

Sarge can automatically chop it up or manually chop it up.
Specifying a manual edit only allows you to set the Size, not the 
starting and ending blocks-- so how do I know where sarge is leaving 
the empty space-- at the beginning (good) or end (bad)?

So let it manually create a multi-user partition table, install 
everything, then break at the aboot install.

I jumped into a 2nd tty and did: (this was also wacky, never seen this 
type of disk addressing)

# fdisk /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
and then manually left 500 empty blocks at the start of the 'a' 
partition.
I wrote out the new partition and quit. Then I reboot to be on the safe 
side.

Now, when sarge starts again, it will NOT see that partition 
table/disklabel I can go into a 2nd tty and verify that it still 
does exist! No matter what choice I want to make in Sarge, it want's to 
start by wiping all the partiton off the drive and installing its own.

So what are people doing to get aboot installed? This seems nuts.
-andy
On Jul 14, 2004, at 5:15 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 05:07:49PM -0400, Andrew Diller wrote:
I used the one at:

http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/alpha/current/

but I'll try again and leave some space at the top of the disk for
aboot. What does it need, a few megs?
Less than 1MB.  A single sector should be sufficient.
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Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 12:07:48PM -0400, Andrew Diller wrote:
> I don't see anything new at:

> http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/alpha/

> will the build happen today, as in before 2400 EST?

Yes; and it's there now.

-- 
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

> On Jul 14, 2004, at 6:30 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> >You may also want to wait until tomorrow's daily, as it turns out the
> >sid_d-i dailies for alpha have been off-line for the better part of a
> >month and I'm not sure of the status of the last build.  The builds 
> >should
> >be happening daily as of tomorrow, however.
>  - Andrew Diller  -
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Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 12:13:41PM -0400, Michael Galloway wrote:
> Hi Andrew!

> there is a build out from yesterday:

> http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/alpha/20040714/

But built against the sarge tree, not the sid tree.

-- 
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

> On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Andrew Diller wrote:
> 
> > I don't see anything new at:
> > 
> > http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/alpha/
> > 
> > will the build happen today, as in before 2400 EST?
> > 
> > -andy
> > 
> > 
> > On Jul 14, 2004, at 6:30 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > >You may also want to wait until tomorrow's daily, as it turns out the
> > >sid_d-i dailies for alpha have been off-line for the better part of a
> > >month and I'm not sure of the status of the last build.  The builds 
> > >should
> > >be happening daily as of tomorrow, however.
> >  - Andrew Diller  -
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Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-15 Thread Andrew Diller
Can someone tell me the difference between sarge and sid? I thought the  
current debian was woody.

-andy
On Jul 15, 2004, at 8:45 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 12:13:41PM -0400, Michael Galloway wrote:
Hi Andrew!

there is a build out from yesterday:

http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/alpha/ 
20040714/
But built against the sarge tree, not the sid tree.