Re: X.Org 6.9 Needs Your Build Logs!
On Sat, Oct 8, 2005 at 00:25:57 +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote: Julien Cristau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just tried to build xorg-x11 from current svn on alpha. It failed in xc/lib/GL/mesa/drivers/dri/r128/r128_ioctl.c, with what looks like a missing #include somewhere. I don't have the time to investigate right now, but will look into it next week if noone does it first. Build log is available at http://perso.ens-lyon.fr/julien.cristau/xorg-x11_6.8.99.900_alpha.log. Where can this be obtained? I can only find 6.8.2.dfsg.1-8+SVN. Either get the xorg-x11 source package from experimental, or run svn export svn://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xorg-x11/branches/6.9 xorg-x11-6.8.99.900.dfsg.1. Cheers, Julien Cristau -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Requalification of Alpha for etch
Hi, following hppa and ia64, I've started a wiki page to start collecting info for the Alpha requalification for etch: http://wiki.debian.org/alphaEtchReleaseRecertification AFAICS, all criteria but two are given: * More developers need to certify in that they're activly developing on this architecture. * There needs to be another buildd. There have been numerous offers in the past. I have no idea what to do to actually make it happen. Please feel free to add to the wiki page, especially on these two points. It would also be nice if more people could install popularity-contest, so that we get a clearer picture on the number of users. -- Falk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Requalification of Alpha for etch
Hi, On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 07:40:15PM +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote: * More developers need to certify in that they're activly developing on this architecture. Added myself. * There needs to be another buildd. There have been numerous offers in the past. I have no idea what to do to actually make it happen. The problem, I guess, is more the hosting in a place with an Alpha-knowledgable local admin than the machines. A good example is faure and lully: the local admin doesn't know SRM and therefore faure vanished a long while ago after a new kernel had to be installed... Cheers Thimo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Requalification of Alpha for etch
Hello, On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 07:40:15PM +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote: following hppa and ia64, I've started a wiki page to start collecting info for the Alpha requalification for etch: http://wiki.debian.org/alphaEtchReleaseRecertification Great. * More developers need to certify in that they're activly developing on this architecture. I still maintain aboot, though a) I am not an official maintainer and b) my private alpha is currently not working. I have a co-maintainer who is exmining the current bugs, and I will try to get my alpha in a working state later this year/early next year. And I guess vorlon is also (still) working on alpha. (At least he uploads new aboot-packages for me :-)) It would also be nice if more people could install popularity-contest, so that we get a clearer picture on the number of users. Take the number of user as given. In my (former) instute, we have sevral machines (UP and SMP, 164, 264) which are used as servers and computing machines. Currently the staff is 36 (not including guests). If you need a formal statements of the current admins, please tell me so I can obtain it. Thanks for taking care of the requalification. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpalqRU1Jgqw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Requalification of Alpha for etch
If any of the buildd's are (or were) hosted in the Boston/Cambridge/Eastern Massachustts, USA area, I would be happy to volunteer to serve as an admin for them. Debian also seems very particular about the class of machines they seek. (I also didn't know that I could promote alpha by running a package!). ...tom Thimo Neubauer wrote: Hi, On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 07:40:15PM +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote: * More developers need to certify in that they're activly developing on this architecture. Added myself. * There needs to be another buildd. There have been numerous offers in the past. I have no idea what to do to actually make it happen. The problem, I guess, is more the hosting in a place with an Alpha-knowledgable local admin than the machines. A good example is faure and lully: the local admin doesn't know SRM and therefore faure vanished a long while ago after a new kernel had to be installed... Cheers Thimo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Requalification of Alpha for etch
On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 07:40:15PM +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote: following hppa and ia64, I've started a wiki page to start collecting info for the Alpha requalification for etch: http://wiki.debian.org/alphaEtchReleaseRecertification Thanks, Falk, for the effort. I find it difficult to keep track of everything going on there, and appreciate this call to arms. AFAICS, all criteria but two are given: * More developers need to certify in that they're activly developing on this architecture. I've added myself to the wiki. I do actively use Alpha. Although I rarely make uploads from it these days, I do test code there, and fix arch-specific bugs when I can. (Most recently, I've worked on Exim4 and Asterisk in that regard.) It is still an important platform to me. * There needs to be another buildd. There have been numerous offers in the past. I have no idea what to do to actually make it happen. I saw on the wiki page a mention that HP sells new systems at insane prices. But the link didn't give pricing. Do you know what new systems sell for? Though we probably don't need a new system. If anybody has an Alpha, I would volunteer to install Debian on it and get it in working condition, and then ship it off to wherever it would be hosted. Do you know what the holdup is? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Requalification of Alpha for etch
On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 09:06:53PM +0200, Thimo Neubauer wrote: * There needs to be another buildd. There have been numerous offers in the past. I have no idea what to do to actually make it happen. The problem, I guess, is more the hosting in a place with an Alpha-knowledgable local admin than the machines. A good example is faure and lully: the local admin doesn't know SRM and therefore faure vanished a long while ago after a new kernel had to be installed... I would volunteer to help out with these sorts of things. I believe SRM can work as a serial console, yes? All it really needs then is some way to hook up to that console. I'm not an SRM expert, but I figured it out well enough to convert my own Alpha from AlphaBIOS to SRM, and keep it booting ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Requalification of Alpha for etch
John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 07:40:15PM +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote: I saw on the wiki page a mention that HP sells new systems at insane prices. But the link didn't give pricing. Do you know what new systems sell for? I don't really recall, but it was way beyond being an actual option. If anybody has an Alpha, I would volunteer to install Debian on it and get it in working condition, and then ship it off to wherever it would be hosted. Do you know what the holdup is? I guess the right combination of a good machine and (like Thimo mentioned) hosting with a competent local admin nearby. -- Falk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Requalification of Alpha for etch
On Sat, 2005-10-08 16:51:06 -0500, John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 09:06:53PM +0200, Thimo Neubauer wrote: * There needs to be another buildd. There have been numerous offers in the past. I have no idea what to do to actually make it happen. The problem, I guess, is more the hosting in a place with an Alpha-knowledgable local admin than the machines. A good example is faure and lully: the local admin doesn't know SRM and therefore faure vanished a long while ago after a new kernel had to be installed... I would volunteer to help out with these sorts of things. I believe SRM can work as a serial console, yes? All it really needs then is some way to hook up to that console. I'm not an SRM expert, but I figured it out well enough to convert my own Alpha from AlphaBIOS to SRM, and keep it booting ;-) Erm, especially with SRM, you'll use aboot, for which installing a new kernel is a task that can fully be done from within Linux... Only if the new kernel won't work for some reason, you may need to interact with aboot to load an alternate kernel. This can be done with local keyboard/monitor, or with serial console. MfG, JBG -- Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]. +49-172-7608481 _ O _ Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf| Gegen Zensur | Gegen Krieg _ _ O für einen Freien Staat voll Freier Bürger | im Internet! | im Irak! O O O ret = do_actions((curr | FREE_SPEECH) ~(NEW_COPYRIGHT_LAW | DRM | TCPA)); signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Requalification of Alpha for etch
On Sun, 2005-10-09 00:00:37 +0200, Falk Hueffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 07:40:15PM +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote: I saw on the wiki page a mention that HP sells new systems at insane prices. But the link didn't give pricing. Do you know what new systems sell for? I don't really recall, but it was way beyond being an actual option. You can buy big iron these days, but probably not desktop-sized boxes. MfG, JBG -- Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]. +49-172-7608481 _ O _ Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf| Gegen Zensur | Gegen Krieg _ _ O für einen Freien Staat voll Freier Bürger | im Internet! | im Irak! O O O ret = do_actions((curr | FREE_SPEECH) ~(NEW_COPYRIGHT_LAW | DRM | TCPA)); signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Requalification of Alpha for etch
On 8 Oct 2005, at 11:00 pm, Falk Hueffner wrote: I don't really recall, but it was way beyond being an actual option. Yup - there are AlphaServers for sale still, but certainly not for prices most people can afford. I guess the right combination of a good machine and (like Thimo mentioned) hosting with a competent local admin nearby. We have both where I work (we still have a lot of Tru64 machines, and although we're steadily switching to Linux -- Debian of course, mostly -- there are a lot of Alpha machines still about), so we're perfectly used to both SRM and Debian. Most of my recent DD activity has been done with an old AlphaPC that sits under my desk. I have already obtained go-ahead from our head of IT to put one in our DMZ for Debian to use. We have a huge amount of external bandwidth (a gigabit pipe to the outside world), so that shouldn't be an issue either. All I need is someone to tell me what needs to be done, and we can provide a machine. Certainly we can make at least a DS20 available, or even an ES40 or ES45 might be possible. We even have a 32 CPU GS320 with 192 GB of memory sitting idle (it got replaced by an Altix), but I doubt I can swing that for Debian. :-) Someone tell me what we need to do, and we'll do it. Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Requalification of Alpha for etch
On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 04:49:06PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 07:40:15PM +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote: following hppa and ia64, I've started a wiki page to start collecting info for the Alpha requalification for etch: http://wiki.debian.org/alphaEtchReleaseRecertification Thanks, Falk, for the effort. I find it difficult to keep track of everything going on there, and appreciate this call to arms. Please don't cc: this thread to debian-release. Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Requalification of Alpha for etch
Falk Hueffner wrote: * There needs to be another buildd. There have been numerous offers in the past. I have no idea what to do to actually make it happen. I have a CS20 online which is intended as a buildd, but have not hae time to configure it properly (I don't yet have experience with wanna-build). Consider this an open invitation for any DD with buildd experience who would like to setup/maintain this buildd (and/or teach me the same) to ask me for a login. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Requalification of Alpha for etch
Paul Cupis wrote: Falk Hueffner wrote: * There needs to be another buildd. There have been numerous offers in the past. I have no idea what to do to actually make it happen. I have a CS20 online which is intended as a buildd, but have not hae time to configure it properly (I don't yet have experience with wanna-build). Consider this an open invitation for any DD with buildd experience who would like to setup/maintain this buildd (and/or teach me the same) to ask me for a login. Ah, and I have another CS20 in Egham, Surrey, UK if someone can offer hosting. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
