Re: BTS usertags for Alpha specific bugs

2005-12-11 Thread Falk Hueffner
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I scanned the BTS for Alpha specific bugs (by looking for those
 reported on an Alpha machine, or with alpha in the subject). I'm
 planning to use usertags with user debian-alpha@lists.debian.org to
 record this. I would use the following tags:

 You didn't mention what user you'll be using for these usertags.
 It was probably the obvious choice, but just in case, may I suggest
 using [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yes, that's just what I thought of :-)

 I would like to see some tagging mechanism for bugs that are general
 64-bit bugs as well, so we could theoretically spread the load on
 these between porters for all three archs.

Seems like a good idea. Maybe somebody[tm] can post a proposal to the
appropriate lists...

 BTW, given that most of the cases of broken packages *should* be
 turned into FTBFS bugs by the maintainer in the absence of any other
 action by the porters, I would suggest this is the appropriate
 category for FTBFS bugs even if we aren't planning to proactively
 usertag them.

Thinking of it, it might be clearest to just have a ftbfs tag. I've
set up a Wiki page at http://wiki.debian.org/AlphaBugs and tagged the
list I sent. Everybody, feel free to change/add...

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Re: BTS usertags for Alpha specific bugs

2005-12-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 01:08:23PM +0100, Falk Hueffner wrote:


  I would like to see some tagging mechanism for bugs that are general
  64-bit bugs as well, so we could theoretically spread the load on
  these between porters for all three archs.

 Seems like a good idea. Maybe somebody[tm] can post a proposal to the
 appropriate lists...

Ok.  Hey, ia64/amd64 folks -- I propose that we come up with some tagging
mechanism for bugs that are common to our 64-bit architectures, so we could
theoretically spread their load between porters for all three archs.  What
do you think? :-)

  BTW, given that most of the cases of broken packages *should* be
  turned into FTBFS bugs by the maintainer in the absence of any other
  action by the porters, I would suggest this is the appropriate
  category for FTBFS bugs even if we aren't planning to proactively
  usertag them.

 Thinking of it, it might be clearest to just have a ftbfs tag. I've
 set up a Wiki page at http://wiki.debian.org/AlphaBugs and tagged the
 list I sent. Everybody, feel free to change/add...

You have:

 (add kernel packages here)

Since in 2.6 the kernels are all built from the linux-2.6 package, might it
not be a good idea to tag these as well?  (Not offering to do it myself at
the moment, sorry :)

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Re: BTS usertags for Alpha specific bugs

2005-12-11 Thread Falk Hueffner
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Since in 2.6 the kernels are all built from the linux-2.6 package,
 might it not be a good idea to tag these as well?

Probably yes, I have a partial list somewhere, so I might do this.

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Re: Sparc build failure analysis (was Re: StrongARM tactics)

2005-12-11 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 05:55:23AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
 
  Indeed, for practical buildd maintainance purposes, the distinction is
  not that important -- though 'Failed' is known to not benefit of a
  requeue, while 'Building:Maybe-Failed' might or might not, it's unkown,
  most archs should have enough surplus buildd power that retrying
  everything once in a while doesn't hurt.
 
  The major benefit is though to make it apparant for porters what to look
  into, without all the 'noise' in between of maybe-transient failures.
  One could also make sure that the FTBFS bugs are tagged (user-tagged)
  with [EMAIL PROTECTED] (etc) for example (or [EMAIL PROTECTED] There
  doesn't exist a [EMAIL PROTECTED] for example...), so that one can get a
  nice overview of all the porting bugs. It'd make sense to synchronise
  this across all architectures, so that it is consistent.
 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2005/12/msg00028.html

I have a long list of bug affecting amd64, but I haven't started
with usertags for it.

The (FTBFS) bugs I encouter (as buildd admin) are:
- General bugs affecting all arches.
- General bugs affecting 64 bit arches.
- Bugs affecting some arches (like not using -fPIC)
- Bugs only affecting amd64.

And the later really is the minorty of the problems.

Note that this does not cover runtime problems or something like
that, but they're very simular.

Do we need to have a special usertag for the first kind?  This is
basicly something everybody can look at.  The only reason I can think
of that it requires some tag is that it's better then looking at
those that don't have a tag.

So, I'm open for suggestions on how to tag the first 3 of those.


Kurt


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