Debian Etch on Samsung 164UX/BX Alpha
Hello! I have Samsung 164UX/BX Alpha (ruffian) with old RedHat 6.2 on it. On all other computers i I have Debian. I want to install Debian on this alpha computer. There is one big problem: I found in the net that this alpha has only ARCBIOS (no SRM console :( ). And somthing like that on official debian pages: "GNU/Linux is the only operating system on Alpha that can be booted from both console types, but Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 only supports booting on SRM-based systems. If you have an Alpha for which no version of SRM is available, if you will be dual-booting the system with Windows NT, or if your boot device requires ARC console support for BIOS initialization, you will not be able to use the Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 installer. You can still run Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 on such systems by using other install media; for instance, you can install Debian woody with MILO and upgrade. RedHat boots via milo on small MS-DOS partition... " Have you any ideas how to install Etch on APC 164UX/BX? Is the woody with milo one way to do it? (there is a problem to download woody iso images) Greetings, Roman Hirsch -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Etch on Samsung 164UX/BX Alpha
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 01:14:38PM +0100, Roman Hirsch wrote: > I have Samsung 164UX/BX Alpha (ruffian) with old RedHat 6.2 on it. > On all other computers i I have Debian. > > I want to install Debian on this alpha computer. > > There is one big problem: > > I found in the net that this alpha has only ARCBIOS (no SRM console :( ). No it doesn't have ARC, it has ARCSBIOS (note the S). I have two of them and I still haven't managed to get them to boot anything (the last debian version to support installing on them was woody and I can't get it to boot on them either). They need a special version of milo and linload (to load milo) to do anything. Supposedly if you can get it booted, you can upgrade to current debian and use it. > And somthing like that on official debian pages: > > "GNU/Linux is the only operating system on Alpha that can be booted from > both console types, but Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 only supports booting on > SRM-based systems. If you have an Alpha for which no version of SRM is > available, if you will be dual-booting the system with Windows NT, or if > your boot device requires ARC console support for BIOS initialization, > you will not be able to use the Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 installer. You can > still run Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 on such systems by using other install > media; for instance, you can install Debian woody with MILO and upgrade. > RedHat boots via milo on small MS-DOS partition... " > > Have you any ideas how to install Etch on APC 164UX/BX? > Is the woody with milo one way to do it? > (there is a problem to download woody iso images) You can't boot from CD on those. Floppy and HD only. FAT filesystem only too. May as well net install woody if that is still posible (sould be on the debian archive server). I will put up a web page with instructions if I ever get mine to work. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Etch on Samsung 164UX/BX Alpha
Which is the URL to your web page ? I have a Ruffian too, but installed with SuSE 7.1 -- I would update to Debian too ;) -Andreas. Lennart Sorensen wrote: > I will put up a web page with instructions if I ever get mine to work. > -- > Len Sorensen > -- Andreas Czerniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> AMCS - Network www.amcs.net Germany ; Fax:+49-431-2000447 begin:vcard fn:Andreas Czerniak n:Czerniak;Andreas org:AMCS europe adr:;;Herzog-Friedrich-Str. 79;Kiel;;24103;Germany email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:+49 431 2000445 tel;fax:+49 431 2000447 tel;cell:+49 177 2373263 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.amcs.net version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Debian Etch on Samsung 164UX/BX Alpha
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 05:04:10PM +0100, Andreas Czerniak wrote: > Which is the URL to your web page ? > > I have a Ruffian too, but installed with SuSE 7.1 -- I would update to > Debian too ;) I haven't made it yet since I haven't solved my install problem yet. :( So far only my PWS433a has debian on it (since it has SRM and was hence simple). My multia only has 32MB ram which was not enough for the installer (and it's very slow too). -- Len SOrensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Etch on Samsung 164UX/BX Alpha
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 11:52:06PM +0100, Wouter Rademaker wrote: > When you have an other Alpha, you can try to > compose a harddisk (or a set of harddisks) that > can be booted on the Samsung 164UX/BX Alpha. > A set of harddisks is maybe the easiest: > You will need a harddisk with a fat-partition > with all the arcbiosstuf and a kernel that can > read the second BSD-partitioned disk. > On the second disk is a very basic generic > debian-installation made on the other Alpha. > milo boots the kernel on the first disk and the > kernel boots the installation on the second > disk. Why would you need/want two hard disks? If this is a system that can only ever be booted from arcs, I see no reason why you wouldn't put everything on a single disk with a FAT partition. (Or if you wanted two disks, to RAID them instead.) -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Etch on Samsung 164UX/BX Alpha
# Lennart Sorensen sprak: > On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 05:04:10PM +0100, > Andreas Czerniak wrote: >> Which is the URL to your web page ? >> >> I have a Ruffian too, but installed with SuSE >> 7.1 -- I would update to >> Debian too ;) > > I haven't made it yet since I haven't solved my > install problem yet. :( > So far only my PWS433a has debian on it (since > it has SRM and was hence > simple). My multia only has 32MB ram which was > not enough for the > installer (and it's very slow too). > > -- > Len SOrensen When you have an other Alpha, you can try to compose a harddisk (or a set of harddisks) that can be booted on the Samsung 164UX/BX Alpha. A set of harddisks is maybe the easiest: You will need a harddisk with a fat-partition with all the arcbiosstuf and a kernel that can read the second BSD-partitioned disk. On the second disk is a very basic generic debian-installation made on the other Alpha. milo boots the kernel on the first disk and the kernel boots the installation on the second disk. -- Met Vriendelijke Zwerversgroeten Wouter Rademaker \ / \ / >O< >O< *{_} {_}* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]