Re: alpha and hppa removal from unstable/experimental

2011-04-01 Thread Oliver Falk

Am 01.04.2011 23:16, schrieb Matt Turner:

As mentioned in the recent ftp-team meeting minutes, we're planning to
remove alpha and hppa from unstable.  They were removed from testing
before the squeeze release and there's no sign that they will be release
architectures for wheezy.  As such, we're planning to remove them from
unstable and experimental in the next few days.  buildd support for
unstable and experimental will also be ended at that time, but will
obviously continue for lenny updates / security builds.

Before we remove the architectures, archives will be taken for anyone
who wants to take a copy of the dump to use elsewhere.  These dumps will
be made available on request.


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Re: alpha and hppa removal from unstable/experimental

2011-04-01 Thread Witold Baryluk
On 04-01 21:16, Matt Turner wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Mark Hymers  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > As mentioned in the recent ftp-team meeting minutes, we're planning to
> > remove alpha and hppa from unstable.  They were removed from testing
> > before the squeeze release and there's no sign that they will be release
> > architectures for wheezy.  As such, we're planning to remove them from
> > unstable and experimental in the next few days.  buildd support for
> > unstable and experimental will also be ended at that time, but will
> > obviously continue for lenny updates / security builds.

> Might want to hold off on that for alpha. There's been a flurry of
> emails in the last week working to revive it.

I agree, we should discuss it.

Me, and few other persons from debian-alpha is already working
to improve state of alpha (which in my opinion is quite
good actually).
Removing alpha from unstable, and disabling buildd will make it
much more hard to work on bringing port more up to date.
Actually I'm currently configuring to machines to act as buildd
to make current setup more redundant and faster, and actually
provide them for wheezy.

I think port do not have any significant technical issues right now,
beyond these which we are already working (and they will be fixed soon).

Problem with lack of squeezy for alpha, looks to be a more problem
of lack of free time by few alpha port maitainer, and there was
actually very few of them. By recent activity on mailing
list and actuall information of this maintainers, it looks
there could be some more interest at making alpha still life,
and bringing it back to debian wheezy.

I also reviewed about 10 bug reports marked as critical in past few days,
and non still applied to the alpha in ustable.
Everything looks to be fixed, or unreproductible.

So,

please tell as more about reasoning behind decision and what
we can do to make alpha port for wheezy a possible option.

Regards,
Witek


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Re: alpha and hppa removal from unstable/experimental

2011-04-01 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Mark Hymers  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As mentioned in the recent ftp-team meeting minutes, we're planning to
> remove alpha and hppa from unstable.  They were removed from testing
> before the squeeze release and there's no sign that they will be release
> architectures for wheezy.  As such, we're planning to remove them from
> unstable and experimental in the next few days.  buildd support for
> unstable and experimental will also be ended at that time, but will
> obviously continue for lenny updates / security builds.
>
> Before we remove the architectures, archives will be taken for anyone
> who wants to take a copy of the dump to use elsewhere.  These dumps will
> be made available on request.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
>
> --
> Mark Hymers 
>
>  Ganneff: I'm confident in your ability to create a flamewar.
>     Extremedura QA/i18n meeting 2008
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Might want to hold off on that for alpha. There's been a flurry of
emails in the last week working to revive it.

Matt


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alpha and hppa removal from unstable/experimental

2011-04-01 Thread Mark Hymers
Hi,

As mentioned in the recent ftp-team meeting minutes, we're planning to
remove alpha and hppa from unstable.  They were removed from testing
before the squeeze release and there's no sign that they will be release
architectures for wheezy.  As such, we're planning to remove them from
unstable and experimental in the next few days.  buildd support for
unstable and experimental will also be ended at that time, but will
obviously continue for lenny updates / security builds.

Before we remove the architectures, archives will be taken for anyone
who wants to take a copy of the dump to use elsewhere.  These dumps will
be made available on request.

Thanks,

Mark


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 Ganneff: I'm confident in your ability to create a flamewar.
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