Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-14 Thread Bob Tracy
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 08:48:10PM +1200, Michael Cree wrote:
> Debian Alpha People,
> 
> Hopefully you have seen the promising message from Aurelien [1] that it 
> is likely that the Alpha port of Debian can be accommodated in 
> debian-ports in the next couple of weeks or so.  To enable that we need 
> to start organising ourselves.  As no-one else has stepped up I am 
> sending out this message but I have to admit I have limited knowledge of 
> the Debian process of porting and packaging.  I suspect we may be all on 
> a step learning curve.  Has anyone heard from Arthur Loiret?  It would 
> be nice to get an actual Debian Developer on board.
> 
> (...)

Thanks for doing this.  I'm happy to do what I can, but frankly, nothing
in my menagerie (irrespective of architecture) has enough suds to make a
suitable build platform for anything other than one-off custom stuff
(including the things I'm personally willing to wait on, like glibc
builds when absolutely required :-)).  If my 433au can contribute
meaningfully in any way, I'll be glad to make it happen.

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RE: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-14 Thread Oliver Falk
> > I have some machines and if you want to have them - feel free to write
> > me an e-mail. Pickup in Austria...
> 
> LOL.
> 
> I do hope to be in Germany in the fall for LDAPCon.  Think I can bring them
> back to the states as carry on luggage?

Well. I guess that's only an option for people in Europe - of course...

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RE: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-14 Thread Oliver Falk
> > I have some machines and if you want to have them - feel free to write
> > me an e-mail. Pickup in Austria...
> 
> LOL.
> 
> I do hope to be in Germany in the fall for LDAPCon.  Think I can bring them
> back to the states as carry on luggage?

Well. I guess that's only an option for people in Europe - of course...

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RE: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-14 Thread Bill MacAllister



--On Thursday, April 14, 2011 04:12:16 PM +0200 Oliver Falk 
 wrote:


Hi!

I have some machines and if you want to have them - feel free to
write me an e-mail. Pickup in Austria...


LOL.

I do hope to be in Germany in the fall for LDAPCon.  Think I can bring
them back to the states as carry on luggage?

Bill


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-Original Message-
From: Bill MacAllister [mailto:w...@stanford.edu]
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:43 PM
To: Michael Cree; debian-alpha@lists.debian.org;
robert.gar...@ieeda.net; c...@ekkaia.net; bary...@smp.if.uj.edu.pl;
aloi...@debian.org
Subject: Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting



--On Thursday, April 14, 2011 08:48:10 PM +1200 Michael Cree
 wrote:

> Debian Alpha People,
>
> You may have noted the removal of the Alpha port from the Debian
> autobuilder network.  Packages are no longer being built for the
> unstable distribution.
>
> Hopefully you have seen the promising message from Aurelien [1] that
> it is likely that the Alpha port of Debian can be accommodated in
> debian-ports in the next couple of weeks or so.  To enable that we
> need to start organising ourselves.  As no-one else has stepped up I
> am sending out this message but I have to admit I have limited
> knowledge of the Debian process of porting and packaging.  I suspect
> we may be all on a step learning curve.  Has anyone heard from Arthur
> Loiret?  It would be nice to get an actual Debian Developer on board.

I have experience building debian packages that we use internally here at
Stanford.  I can help with basic packaging.

> The debian-ports server is a wanna-build server.  It maintains a
> database of built and needs to be built packages and manages the
> allocation of building to buildds.  I believe debian-ports also hosts
> the accessible apt package repository.
>
> It appears we are to provide the Alpha buildds.  We need at least two
> for redundancy but if older hardware is used then we may need three or
> four.  Craig, Witold, Robert, are you all able to offer a machine to
> be a buildd?  I don't think I can---I have an XP1000 that is my main
> computer that I use, and two PWS600au, but they are a bit slow.

I have several AlphaServer 1200s and DecServer 5000s that are idle right
now.  I can probably only bring two onto the net, but I am happy to do that.

> Who is prepared to assist in the checking of built package logs,
> uploading successful builds, and reporting build failures?
> Hopefully we can get three or four of us so that it lightens the load
> and enables package builds to continue when someone is unavailable.  I
> volunteer for some of this load --- but I won't be able to attend to
> it every day.  It will be more likely twice a week.

I can also help with looking the the build logs.

> There are some other things we have to sort out to have a fully
> working Alpha autobuilder network but the above is a start.

Thanks for your efforts and let me know what I can do to help.

Bill

> Cheers
> Michael.
>
> [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2011/04/msg00018.html



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RE: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-14 Thread Oliver Falk
Hi!

I have some machines and if you want to have them - feel free to write me an 
e-mail. Pickup in Austria...

-of

> -Original Message-
> From: Bill MacAllister [mailto:w...@stanford.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:43 PM
> To: Michael Cree; debian-alpha@lists.debian.org;
> robert.gar...@ieeda.net; c...@ekkaia.net; bary...@smp.if.uj.edu.pl;
> aloi...@debian.org
> Subject: Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting
> 
> 
> 
> --On Thursday, April 14, 2011 08:48:10 PM +1200 Michael Cree
>  wrote:
> 
> > Debian Alpha People,
> >
> > You may have noted the removal of the Alpha port from the Debian
> > autobuilder network.  Packages are no longer being built for the
> > unstable distribution.
> >
> > Hopefully you have seen the promising message from Aurelien [1] that
> > it is likely that the Alpha port of Debian can be accommodated in
> > debian-ports in the next couple of weeks or so.  To enable that we
> > need to start organising ourselves.  As no-one else has stepped up I
> > am sending out this message but I have to admit I have limited
> > knowledge of the Debian process of porting and packaging.  I suspect
> > we may be all on a step learning curve.  Has anyone heard from Arthur
> > Loiret?  It would be nice to get an actual Debian Developer on board.
> 
> I have experience building debian packages that we use internally here at
> Stanford.  I can help with basic packaging.
> 
> > The debian-ports server is a wanna-build server.  It maintains a
> > database of built and needs to be built packages and manages the
> > allocation of building to buildds.  I believe debian-ports also hosts
> > the accessible apt package repository.
> >
> > It appears we are to provide the Alpha buildds.  We need at least two
> > for redundancy but if older hardware is used then we may need three or
> > four.  Craig, Witold, Robert, are you all able to offer a machine to
> > be a buildd?  I don't think I can---I have an XP1000 that is my main
> > computer that I use, and two PWS600au, but they are a bit slow.
> 
> I have several AlphaServer 1200s and DecServer 5000s that are idle right
> now.  I can probably only bring two onto the net, but I am happy to do that.
> 
> > Who is prepared to assist in the checking of built package logs,
> > uploading successful builds, and reporting build failures?
> > Hopefully we can get three or four of us so that it lightens the load
> > and enables package builds to continue when someone is unavailable.  I
> > volunteer for some of this load --- but I won't be able to attend to
> > it every day.  It will be more likely twice a week.
> 
> I can also help with looking the the build logs.
> 
> > There are some other things we have to sort out to have a fully
> > working Alpha autobuilder network but the above is a start.
> 
> Thanks for your efforts and let me know what I can do to help.
> 
> Bill
> 
> > Cheers
> > Michael.
> >
> > [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2011/04/msg00018.html
> 
> 
> 
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> Infrastructure Delivery Group, Stanford University
> 
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Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-14 Thread Bill MacAllister



--On Thursday, April 14, 2011 08:48:10 PM +1200 Michael Cree 
 wrote:


Debian Alpha People,

You may have noted the removal of the Alpha port from the Debian
autobuilder network.  Packages are no longer being built for the
unstable distribution.

Hopefully you have seen the promising message from Aurelien [1] that
it is likely that the Alpha port of Debian can be accommodated in
debian-ports in the next couple of weeks or so.  To enable that we
need to start organising ourselves.  As no-one else has stepped up I
am sending out this message but I have to admit I have limited
knowledge of the Debian process of porting and packaging.  I suspect
we may be all on a step learning curve.  Has anyone heard from
Arthur Loiret?  It would be nice to get an actual Debian Developer
on board.


I have experience building debian packages that we use internally
here at Stanford.  I can help with basic packaging.


The debian-ports server is a wanna-build server.  It maintains a
database of built and needs to be built packages and manages the
allocation of building to buildds.  I believe debian-ports also
hosts the accessible apt package repository.

It appears we are to provide the Alpha buildds.  We need at least
two for redundancy but if older hardware is used then we may need
three or four.  Craig, Witold, Robert, are you all able to offer a
machine to be a buildd?  I don't think I can---I have an XP1000 that
is my main computer that I use, and two PWS600au, but they are a bit
slow.


I have several AlphaServer 1200s and DecServer 5000s that are idle
right now.  I can probably only bring two onto the net, but I am happy
to do that.


Who is prepared to assist in the checking of built package logs,
uploading successful builds, and reporting build failures?
Hopefully we can get three or four of us so that it lightens the
load and enables package builds to continue when someone is
unavailable.  I volunteer for some of this load --- but I won't be
able to attend to it every day.  It will be more likely twice a
week.


I can also help with looking the the build logs.


There are some other things we have to sort out to have a fully
working Alpha autobuilder network but the above is a start.


Thanks for your efforts and let me know what I can do to help.

Bill


Cheers
Michael.

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2011/04/msg00018.html




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Re: alpha and hppa removal from unstable/experimental

2011-04-14 Thread Michael Cree

On 04/04/11 05:25, Matt Turner wrote:

This is partly due to the fact that I hate trying to submit things to
glibc. Also that I don't have any time right now. But mostly because I
hate glibc development.


So, is there someone in this new Alpha porting team that can help Matt 
with upstream support on the Alpha port of glibc?


I am baulking at it as I am thinking about putting some effort into 
binutils, particularly ld, and see if I can fix the relax code path of 
the linker.  I suspect that will have quite a nice flow-on effect of 
fixing quite a few problems with plugins and the linking of large C++ 
programs.


Cheers
Michael.


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Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-14 Thread Michael Cree

Debian Alpha People,

You may have noted the removal of the Alpha port from the Debian 
autobuilder network.  Packages are no longer being built for the 
unstable distribution.


Hopefully you have seen the promising message from Aurelien [1] that it 
is likely that the Alpha port of Debian can be accommodated in 
debian-ports in the next couple of weeks or so.  To enable that we need 
to start organising ourselves.  As no-one else has stepped up I am 
sending out this message but I have to admit I have limited knowledge of 
the Debian process of porting and packaging.  I suspect we may be all on 
a step learning curve.  Has anyone heard from Arthur Loiret?  It would 
be nice to get an actual Debian Developer on board.


The debian-ports server is a wanna-build server.  It maintains a 
database of built and needs to be built packages and manages the 
allocation of building to buildds.  I believe debian-ports also hosts 
the accessible apt package repository.


It appears we are to provide the Alpha buildds.  We need at least two 
for redundancy but if older hardware is used then we may need three or 
four.   Craig, Witold, Robert, are you all able to offer a machine to be 
a buildd?I don't think I can---I have an XP1000 that is my main 
computer that I use, and two PWS600au, but they are a bit slow.


Who is prepared to assist in the checking of built package logs, 
uploading successful builds, and reporting build failures?  Hopefully we 
can get three or four of us so that it lightens the load and enables 
package builds to continue when someone is unavailable.  I volunteer for 
some of this load --- but I won't be able to attend to it every day.  It 
will be more likely twice a week.


There are some other things we have to sort out to have a fully working 
Alpha autobuilder network but the above is a start.


Cheers
Michael.

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2011/04/msg00018.html


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