Re: Use SMP kernel for Alpha (udeb) builds

2018-12-04 Thread Bob Tracy
On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 07:37:13PM +0100, Frank Scheiner wrote:
> On 12/4/18 17:45, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> > > ## Patches ##
> > > 
> > > 1. 
> > > https://salsa.debian.org/frank-scheiner-guest/linux/commit/865cacfd7722b346629082ab3094b6ad93964095
> > > 
> > > 2. 
> > > https://salsa.debian.org/frank-scheiner-guest/debian-installer/commit/7269679bec8bae997ef5ed7619e9f8df2e184134
> > > 
> > > I think both patches are already enough to produce the needed alpha-smp 
> > > udebs and will allow to produce working installer images (e.g. netboot 
> > > images might work instantly and could be an alternative way for Bob to 
> > > reinstall his PWS).
> > > 
> > > What do you think? Is there anything obvious missing?
> > 
> > Can you open PRs so that these changes can get merged? I will then build 
> > new images.
> 
> Sure, created them now:
> 
> * First part: https://salsa.debian.org/kernel-team/linux/merge_requests/79
> 
> * Second part:
> https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debian-installer/merge_requests/6

Much appreciated, gentlemen.  Wish I could do more than offer my system up
as a test platform, but so it goes...  I'll be happy to help with determining
the "actual problem which is yet unknown" with the alpha generic kernel, once
my system is back up and running :-).

--Bob



Re: Use SMP kernel for Alpha (udeb) builds

2018-12-04 Thread Frank Scheiner

Hi Adrian,

On 12/4/18 17:45, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

## Patches ##

1. 
https://salsa.debian.org/frank-scheiner-guest/linux/commit/865cacfd7722b346629082ab3094b6ad93964095

2. 
https://salsa.debian.org/frank-scheiner-guest/debian-installer/commit/7269679bec8bae997ef5ed7619e9f8df2e184134

I think both patches are already enough to produce the needed alpha-smp udebs 
and will allow to produce working installer images (e.g. netboot images might 
work instantly and could be an alternative way for Bob to reinstall his PWS).

What do you think? Is there anything obvious missing?


Can you open PRs so that these changes can get merged? I will then build new 
images.


Sure, created them now:

* First part: https://salsa.debian.org/kernel-team/linux/merge_requests/79

* Second part: 
https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debian-installer/merge_requests/6


Cheers,
Frank



Re: Use SMP kernel for Alpha (udeb) builds

2018-12-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Frank!

On 12/4/18 5:38 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote:
> As per [1] and our recent discussions the generic 4.x kernels seem to no 
> longer work on Alpha machines which also renders any installer images using 
> the generic 4.x kernels non-working.
> 
> [1]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2017/03/msg7.html
> 
> Confirmed on:
> * AlphaStation 200 (w/EV4 x 1)
> * AlphaStation 255 (w/EV45 x 1)
> * Personal Workstation 500au (w/EV56 x 1)
> * AlphaServer DS20E (w/EV67 x 2)
> 
> Also expected on:
> * AXPpci33 (w/LCA4 x 1)
> * AlphaStation 500 (w/EV56 x 1)
> * AlphaServer DS25 (w/EV68CB x 2)
> * AlphaServer ES45 (w/EV68CB x 4)

Wow, thanks for the very extensive testing.

> This is sort of a workaround and does not fix the actual problem which is yet 
> unknown, but I believe getting working installer images is more important at 
> the moment. With working installer images more people could get involved and 
> maybe sometime in the future someone has enough time and effort to invest in 
> fixing the actual problem.

I agree.

> ## Patches ##
> 
> 1. 
> https://salsa.debian.org/frank-scheiner-guest/linux/commit/865cacfd7722b346629082ab3094b6ad93964095
> 
> 2. 
> https://salsa.debian.org/frank-scheiner-guest/debian-installer/commit/7269679bec8bae997ef5ed7619e9f8df2e184134
> 
> I think both patches are already enough to produce the needed alpha-smp udebs 
> and will allow to produce working installer images (e.g. netboot images might 
> work instantly and could be an alternative way for Bob to reinstall his PWS).
> 
> What do you think? Is there anything obvious missing?

Can you open PRs so that these changes can get merged? I will then build new 
images.

Adrian

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Use SMP kernel for Alpha (udeb) builds

2018-12-04 Thread Frank Scheiner

Dear all,

As per [1] and our recent discussions the generic 4.x kernels seem to no 
longer work on Alpha machines which also renders any installer images 
using the generic 4.x kernels non-working.


[1]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2017/03/msg7.html

Confirmed on:
* AlphaStation 200 (w/EV4 x 1)
* AlphaStation 255 (w/EV45 x 1)
* Personal Workstation 500au (w/EV56 x 1)
* AlphaServer DS20E (w/EV67 x 2)

Also expected on:
* AXPpci33 (w/LCA4 x 1)
* AlphaStation 500 (w/EV56 x 1)
* AlphaServer DS25 (w/EV68CB x 2)
* AlphaServer ES45 (w/EV68CB x 4)

The following two patches should switch the used kernels to the SMP 
version. As:


(1) I don't exactly know how to build images using multiple kernels 
(i.e. what happens if $TEMP_KERNEL has multiple kernel names in it, 
which seems to be supported according to [2], will the image creation in 
e.g. [3] than run multiple times automatically?) and I don't want to 
break things,


[2]: 
https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debian-installer/blob/master/build/config/dir#L79


[3]: 
https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debian-installer/blob/master/build/config/alpha/netboot.cfg


(2) I can't find a similar example for another architecture and

(3) the images with the generic kernels are non-working anyhow,

...I just omitted the generic ones for now.

This is sort of a workaround and does not fix the actual problem which 
is yet unknown, but I believe getting working installer images is more 
important at the moment. With working installer images more people could 
get involved and maybe sometime in the future someone has enough time 
and effort to invest in fixing the actual problem.


## Patches ##

1. 
https://salsa.debian.org/frank-scheiner-guest/linux/commit/865cacfd7722b346629082ab3094b6ad93964095


2. 
https://salsa.debian.org/frank-scheiner-guest/debian-installer/commit/7269679bec8bae997ef5ed7619e9f8df2e184134


I think both patches are already enough to produce the needed alpha-smp 
udebs and will allow to produce working installer images (e.g. netboot 
images might work instantly and could be an alternative way for Bob to 
reinstall his PWS).


What do you think? Is there anything obvious missing?

Cheers,
Frank