Re: [Stretch] Status for architecture qualification

2016-06-20 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Nelson H. F. Beebe  wrote:
> Recent traffic on this list has discussed Debian on PowerPC and
> big-endian vs little-endian.
>
> The next-generation US national laboratory facilities are to be based
> on PowerPC, and one source that I read mentioned little-endian, likely
> for binary file compatibility with files produced on Intel x86 and
> x86-64 CPUs: see

Yeah, apparently it's cheaper to bootstrap a complete new little endian
platform than to fix portability issues in existing software...

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

    Geert

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Re: maintainer communication

2013-12-24 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Finn Thain  wrote:
>> >Why is CONFIG_SERIAL_PMACZILOG to be disabled? And why was
>>
>> See the discussion in the thread before this message.
>
> I've seen no discussion of this on debian-68k or linux-m68k. What
> discussion are you referring to?
>
> The subject of this thread (before you shortened it) was "maintainer
> communication (was Re: Debian kernel regression, was Re: Modernizing a
> Macintosh LC III)".
>
> That discussion covered both the usefulness of the serial console (i.e.
> CONFIG_SERIAL_PMACZILOG) and the problematic disappearance of
> CONFIG_EARLY_PRINTK.

I guess it's about the crash on non-Mac when passing debug=serial.

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Geert

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Re: Bits from the Release Team (Jessie freeze info)

2013-10-22 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Stewart Smith
 wrote:
> Jenkins can have slaves on remote hosts, via SSH. It runs a small java
> app there, so as long as the arch has a JVM then you're pretty right.

For whatever definition of small. I've seen it consuming 1 GiB of memory...

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    Geert

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Re: beta status

2005-11-04 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 11:57:12AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 10:45:30AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > > > Actually, we could simply make an exception for miboot and get it 
> > > > > into the
> > > > > archive, i think it is no worse than other cases (like amiboot, which 
> > > > > is
> > > > > linked to parts of amigaos, and thus non-free), and we do distribute 
> > > > > those (or
> > > > > at least used to distribute those in the woody times).
> > > > 
> > > > Amiboot is not linked to parts of AmigaOS. It is linked to libnix.
> > > 
> > > which in turn is not in the archive, so amiboot can never be in anything 
> > > but
> > 
> > It's statically linked (and libnix is public domain, according to Google 
> > :-).
> 
> Still not in debian/main, so amiboot needs to go to contrib.

There's also no Amigaos cross-gcc in Debian.

> > > contrib, and still we distribute it. and is libnix not kind of linked to 
> > > some
> > > amigaos or amigarom parts ? 
> > 
> > No, you don't have to link to anything to make AmigaOS calls. All you need 
> > to
> > know is that address 4 stores a pointer to exec.libary.
> 
> Well, maybe, but that still counts as linking, i doubt there is any more
> philosophical difference in doing this than dynamically linking with a
> library.

I think you can consider it the equivalent of a system call, i.e. normal usage
of the OS API.

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Geert

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Re: beta status

2005-11-04 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 10:45:30AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > Actually, we could simply make an exception for miboot and get it into the
> > > archive, i think it is no worse than other cases (like amiboot, which is
> > > linked to parts of amigaos, and thus non-free), and we do distribute 
> > > those (or
> > > at least used to distribute those in the woody times).
> > 
> > Amiboot is not linked to parts of AmigaOS. It is linked to libnix.
> 
> which in turn is not in the archive, so amiboot can never be in anything but

It's statically linked (and libnix is public domain, according to Google :-).

> contrib, and still we distribute it. and is libnix not kind of linked to some
> amigaos or amigarom parts ? 

No, you don't have to link to anything to make AmigaOS calls. All you need to
know is that address 4 stores a pointer to exec.libary.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

Geert

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Re: beta status

2005-11-04 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
> Actually, we could simply make an exception for miboot and get it into the
> archive, i think it is no worse than other cases (like amiboot, which is
> linked to parts of amigaos, and thus non-free), and we do distribute those (or
> at least used to distribute those in the woody times).

Amiboot is not linked to parts of AmigaOS. It is linked to libnix.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

    Geert

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tftpboot.img on UDB

2000-12-11 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi,

I tried to boot the potato tftpboot.img on my DEC UDB using the SRM console.
BOOTP works, TFTP works, but after the image is started, my UDB resets and I
end up in the SRM console again. The last 2 lines I see before the reboot are
about OSF PAL-code and initrd. I didn't pass any kernel arguments (plain `boot
ewa0').

Is this a known problem? Thx!

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

Geert

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