Re: [RFC] Dropping architectures alpha and m68k from the Installation Guide
Hello, On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:45:41PM -0400, Brian Szymanski wrote: Maybe I'm just sad that alpha is being dropped for squeeze, but... It strikes me that not having install docs will be a major hindrance to any revival of the alpha port, as it will discourage potential new developers from ever trying debian on their boxes and seeing what needs to be fixed. As far as the burden on translators goes, is there a priority ranking system for what needs to be done? Seems like that could help here... Feeling simmilarly, this would be great. Also given that m68k was carried along one extra cycle I think alpha deserves the same chance for new blood. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann deb...@helgefjell.de Dipl.-Phys. http://www.helgefjell.de 64bit GNU powered gpg signed mail preferred Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: aboot update for etch
Hello Dann, On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 02:16:24PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: I've put together an updated etch aboot package that includes the fix for booting = 2.6.23 kernels (e.g., the etchnhalf kernel) and also fixes a few other issues that affect build reproducibility. I'd like to get your take on this as a potential update for stable. I've tested this version of aboot with the sarge 2.6.8, etch 2.6.18 and the 2.6.24 queued for etchnhalf and didn't notice any problems. However, I only have one machine/config for testing, so I'd appreciate any additional testing from users on these lists. No objection from me, but please not that I orphaned aboot as I don't have access to an working alpha machine anymore, so I cannot test your changes nor properly evaluate them. Please note also, that aboot FTBFS in unstable currently (#480364). Please apologize my late reply, I've been on vacation. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dipl.-Phys. http://www.helgefjell.de/debian.php 64bit GNU powered gpg signed mail preferred Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Request assistance with monotone package on alpha, hppa, mipsel, powerpc, s390
[stack]12000-120704000 r-xp fe:01 119882 /home/helge/build/monotone/monotone-0.36/mtn 120714000-120728000 rwxp 00704000 fe:01 119882 /home/helge/build/monotone/monotone-0.36/mtn 120728000-1207d rwxp 120728000 00:00 0 [heap] 200-202 r-xp fe:01 295142 /lib/ld-2.6.1.so 202-2022000 rw-p 202 00:00 0 202a000-202e000 rw-p 202a000 00:00 0 ... 2526000-2528000 rwxp 00018000 fe:01 295100 /lib/libpthread-2.6.1.so 2528000-252c000 rwxp 2528000 00:00 0 252c000-26b r-xp fe:01 369170 /usr/lib/libicui18n.so.36.0 26b-26c ---p 00184000 fe:01 369170 /usr/lib/libicui18n.so.36.0 26c-26d rwxp 00184000 fe:01 369170 /usr/lib/libicui18n.so.36.0 26d-283 r-xp fe:01 369172 /usr/lib/libicuuc.so.36.0 283-284 rwxp 0016 fe:01 369172 /usr/lib/libicuuc.so.36.0 284-2842000 rwxp 284 00:00 0 2842000-200011f2000 r-xp fe:01 369173 /usr/lib/libicudata.so.36.0 200011f2000-2000120 ---p 009b fe:01 369173 /usr/lib/libicudata.so.36.0 2000120-20001202000 rw-p 009ae000 fe:01 369173 /usr/lib/libicudata.so.36.0 20001202000-20001204000 rw-p 20001202000 00:00 0 2000400-20004022000 rw-p 2000400 00:00 0 20004022000-2000800 ---p 20004022000 00:00 0 Segmentation fault You can find the build log under: http://www.helgefjell.de/data/mlog.bz2 You can find the requested file and directory in (18 MB!) http://www.helgefjell.de/data/monotone_36_alpha.tar.bz2 I hope this helps, Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: help with mplayer bug 431139
Hello, On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 04:15:27PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 09:12:27PM +0200, A Mennucc wrote: By looking in http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=mplayer;ver=1.0%7Erc1-15;arch=alpha;stamp=1185972985 I deduced that indeed configure detects the CPU of the buildd , as follows Checking for GCC CPU optimization abilities ... ev67 Checking for MVI instruction support in GCC ... yes This means that mplayer is compiled with 'gcc -mcpu=ev67 ' ; and also that CAN_COMPILE_ALPHA_MVI is set, and this enables some specific code in libmpeg2/ (I don't know what MVI is , alas - but it looks as something that not all CPUs have) I don't know what MVI is either, but according to http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-dev-eng/2003-September/020895.html it's not supported on ev56 so should be disabled, or else enabled only as an optional subarch optimization within the package. According to my vague memories it is Motion Video Instructions, which I find here as well: http://www.alasir.com/articles/alpha_history/alpha_21164_21164pc.html Looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEC_Alpha it supports starts at 21164PC. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [BUG] 2.6.23-rc3 won't boot on alpha (fwd)
Hello, On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 07:03:52PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 08:30:56PM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: The SRM-HOWTO says netbooting with aboot is broken: there's a way to make a netbootable (using bootp) image using the kernel source tree code under arch/alpha/boot. As I said, though, I've not had any need for that functionality, and I haven't tried it. It's possible that the SRM-HOWTO included with the aboot source is out of date and therefore mistaken about netbooting being broken. Ah, that sounds like a bug in the SRM-HOWTO then, yes. Thanks to Helge, the aboot package includes a netabootwrap command that can be used to make If I gt a patch for the SRM-HOWTO (preferably after testing) I can include it both upstream and in the Debian package. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [BUG] 2.6.23-rc3 won't boot on alpha (fwd)
On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 10:50:06PM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: The aboot patch in the referenced l-k posting did the trick. My Alpha is up and running on 2.6.23-rc3 as I type this... I'm still willing to test an official updated aboot package when it's available, but the value added at this point is probably minimal if the Debian source mods (for packaging) are trivial. I will start working on a new official deb in the next days, but since I no longer have console access I cannot test it, so I will need your feedback. For the moment please continue testing Steves version and report your results. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#437296: Aboot ftbfs due to missing kernel headers
Package: aboot Version: 0.9b-3 Severity: serious Tags: help X-Debbugs-CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Debbugs-CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Debbugs-CC: debian-alpha@lists.debian.org Since I (finally) got a remote shell account on an alpha again I wanted to do some maintenance on aboot (which has seen no changes since at least Sarge). However, aboot now ftbfs in Sid. The relevant lines are: gcc -g -O2 -Wall -I. -I../include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -g -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -g -c -o ../lib/isolib.o ../lib/isolib.c ../lib/isolib.c:10:28: error: linux/string.h: No such file or directory ../lib/isolib.c:13:26: error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory In file included from ../lib/isolib.c:21: ../include/utils.h:5:23: error: asm/hwrpb.h: No such file or directory (The full build log is attached) These used to be in the kernel headers. They are not contained in linux-libc-dev (as shipped in sid) and I would rather not include specific kernel version with specific include paths. linux/string.h: Still present in current kernels. linux/config.h: Gone 2.6.22, in 2.6.17 marked as deprecated asm/hwrpb.h: Still present in (current) kernels And I'm afraid, the build will fail further down as well (haven't tested yet). I tagged this bug help because before fiddeling around[1] I thought I checked what the appropriate way to deal with these missing headers is. Should I include a copy inside aboot? Should I request them to be included in linux-libc-dev? Should I (shudder) rely on a specific kernel version for inclusion? - Maybe there is some documentation/Wiki which explains all these? Please keep this bug in the loop on replies. Thanks. Greetings Helge [1] Last time I checked, upstream no longer responded, but I still have access to the sf repository, so including fixes upstream could be possible :-)) -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dipl.-Phys. http://www.helgefjell.de/debian.php 64bit GNU powered gpg signed mail preferred Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ fakeroot debian/rules clean dh_testdir dh_testroot rm -f build-aboot-stamp build-aboot-base-stamp build-aboot-cross-stamp rm -f install-aboot-stamp install-aboot-base-stamp install-aboot-cross-stamp /usr/bin/make distclean make[1]: Entering directory `/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b' make -C sdisklabel clean CPPFLAGS=-D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -g -I/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b/include -I/usr/src/linux/include make[2]: Entering directory `/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b/sdisklabel' rm -f sdisklabel swriteboot *.o make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b/sdisklabel' make -C tools clean CPPFLAGS=-D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -g -I/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b/include -I/usr/src/linux/include make[2]: Entering directory `/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b/tools' rm -f *~ *.o *.a core e2writeboot isomarkboot abootconf elfencap objstrip make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b/tools' make -C lib clean CPPFLAGS=-D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -g -I/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b/include -I/usr/src/linux/include TESTING= make[2]: Entering directory `/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b/lib' rm -f libaboot.a *.o make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b/lib' rm -f aboot abootconf net_aboot net_aboot.nh net_pad vmlinux.bootp \ head.o aboot.o cons.o utils.o zip/misc.o zip/unzip.o zip/inflate.o disk.o fs/ext2.o fs/ufs.o fs/dummy.o fs/iso.o net.o bootlx \ include/ksize.h vmlinux.nh b2c bootloader.h netabootwrap find . -name \*~ | xargs rm -f make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b' /usr/bin/make -C doc/man clean make[1]: Entering directory `/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b/doc/man' rm -f aboot.8 aboot.conf.5 abootconf.8 isomarkboot.1 sdisklabel.8 netabootwrap.1 manpage.log manpage.links manpage.refs make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b/doc/man' /usr/bin/make -C doc/man/de clean make[1]: Entering directory `/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b/doc/man/de' rm -f *.html *.de.? srmbootraw.8 srmbootfat.1 sdisklabel.8 isomarkboot.8 abootconf.8 aboot.conf.5 aboot.8 netabootwrap.1 manpage.links manpage.log manpage.refs rm -rf SRM-HOWTO make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b/doc/man/de' /usr/bin/make -C doc/faq-src clean make[1]: Entering directory `/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b/doc/faq-src' rm -rf SRM-HOWTO make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b/doc/faq-src' /usr/bin/make -C srmbootfat clean make[1]: Entering directory `/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b/srmbootfat' rm -f srmbootfat srmbootraw srmbootfat.1 srmbootraw.1 manpage.links manpage.log manpage.refs make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/helge/build/aboot/aboot-0.9b/srmbootfat
Re: FW: Alpha Wiki
Hello, I added the link to the alpha ports page. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: error in installation manual
Hello, On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:30:36AM +0100, cz 172638 wrote: two days ago i started installation of debian on alphaserver via tftpd. first day i wasn't successfull, because boot ewa0 didn't worked. looking into netbsd manuals for setting tftpd, i found, that 'set ewa0_protocol bootp' will not work. right command is 'set ewa0_protocols bootp'. then tftp download begin, when you enter 'boot ewa0' command, instead of transmitting dec-mop request packets. Please file a bug report using reportbug against the appropriate package. If you read this on some general documentation (e.g. on our web pages, in the installation manual, the release notes etc.) choose a virtual package listed here: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages Thanks! Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Clarification on upgrade order for etch, was: Re: rageircd ftbfs on alpha
Hello, On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 12:48:09PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: epoll is specific to Linux 2.6. You should not expect it to be available on buildds for *any* architecture (except amd64) until after the release of etch; packages must be able to build on buildds running in a chroot against the previous stable release, and they must install and run when installed against the previous stable release to support partial upgrades. Is this official RM policy? I ask, because some packages[1] already dropped 2.4 support *now* stating that Etch will not support 2.4 and simply provide a README.Debian (IIRC). It should be clear if users need to update to 2.6 *before* starting the upgrade to Etch, or if they can update first to Etch but need to upgrade the kernel afterwards. Thanks for clarification. Greetings Helge [1] C.f. to the decision in #377697 -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Is there a problem with ustable kernel 2.6.16?
Hello, On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 10:20:57AM +0200, Uwe Schindler wrote: problems, but with this one aboot crashes before printing out any How did you determine that aboot crashes (I don't doubt it, but maybe the new kernel cannot initialize video or something?) messages about loading compressed/uncompresses vmlinuz files. After entering the profile number in aboot-interactive the cursor goes into the next line and nothing happens anymore. The machine can only be reanimated by pressing reset. Tried both -generic and -legacy kernels. 2.6.15-generic runs fine from aboot. Instead of crashing you see the message about Loading uncompressed vmlinuz...\nLoading compressed vmlinuz...\n and so on. So this seems to be an aboot problem (do we need a newer version of aboot or is the compression I am afraid aboot upstream is in deep sleep. algo of the vmlinuz file changed and aboot does not know this)? Or could it be a problem with the initrd (since installing 2.6.15 the yaird package was updated but for 2.6.15 mkinitrd did not run again). But the initrd is loaded by the running kernel a little bit later, so you should see the messages about loading the vmlinuz... I agree. If you determine that this is aboot fault, please file a proper bug report against aboot (though I cannot help you on this atm). If you'll find a workaround/patch, even better :-)) Greetings from the same hot country, Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: apt and kernel updates
Hello, On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 10:01:15AM -0400, Michael Galloway wrote: what is the correct method to upgrade kernels via apt? i've install the smp kernel with apt and now in /boot there is: odin:/boot# ls -l total 16999 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 88064 2004-09-06 01:42 bootlx -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 59030 2006-03-06 07:23 config-2.6.15-1-alpha-generic -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 57965 2006-03-06 07:23 config-2.6.15-1-alpha-smp drwxr-xr-x 2 root root1024 2006-06-08 10:03 etc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 33 2006-06-08 10:03 initrd.img - initrd.img-2.6.15-1-alpha-generic -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6285364 2006-06-08 09:17 initrd.img-2.6.15-1-alpha-generic -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6368682 2054-06-09 04:57 initrd.img-2.6.15-1-alpha-smp drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 2006-06-08 09:09 lost+found -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32256 2004-09-06 01:42 net_aboot.nh -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 2004-09-06 01:42 net_pad -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 781963 2006-03-06 11:25 System.map-2.6.15-1-alpha-generic -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 802504 2006-03-06 11:34 System.map-2.6.15-1-alpha-smp lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 2006-06-08 10:03 vmlinuz - vmlinuz-2.6.15-1-alpha-generic -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1377031 2006-03-06 11:24 vmlinuz-2.6.15-1-alpha-generic -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1455633 2006-03-06 11:34 vmlinuz-2.6.15-1-alpha-smp do i just need to move the links from 2.6.15-1-alpha-generic to 2.6.15-1-alpha-smp? How does your /etc/aboot.conf look like (or /boot/etc/aboot.conf)? Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: apt and kernel updates
Hello, On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 11:07:21AM -0400, Michael Galloway wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 05:01:44PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: do i just need to move the links from 2.6.15-1-alpha-generic to 2.6.15-1-alpha-smp? IMHO (but I haven't used pre-compiled kernels) you can/should do this if you now it works. How does your /etc/aboot.conf look like (or /boot/etc/aboot.conf)? looks like this helge: odin:/etc# more aboot.conf # # aboot default configurations # 0:2/vmlinuz ro initrd=/initrd.img root=/dev/sda3 1:2/vmlinuz.old ro initrd=/initrd.img.old root=/dev/sda3 2:3/vmlinux.new.gz ro root=/dev/sda2 3:3/vmlinux ro root=/dev/sda2 8:- ro root=/dev/sda2 # fs less boot of raw kernel 9:0/- ro root=/dev/sda2 # fs less boot of (compressed) ECOFF kernel So I'd recommend to add the new kernel for testing there, i.e. add a line 4:2/vmlinuz-2.6.15-1-alpha-smp ro initrd=/initrd.img-2.6.15-1-alpha-smp root=/dev/sda3 And next time in SRM boot XXX -fl i and in aboot hit 4. If everything works fine and as expected, you can move the link (and if you want) remove the generic kernel. Of course you can move the link immediately, as you can type the complete string above in aboot as well if it fails (and there is the ls command to look up the precise name), but given that right now you can copy and paste, and in aboot you can't, I recommend the above way. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
No build attempt for xmovie
Hello, I recently fixed an RC-bug in xmovie and saw that the architecture now (finally) includes alpha. Unfortunately I could not find any notice of an attempted build on buildd.debian.org nor could I find any deb-file in the archive. Does anyone know why this package has not been attempted for build? Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: DS20 Worth trying ?
Hello, On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 08:48:58PM -0800, Garry Easop wrote: SMP problems. Although the Adaptec card works fine, SMP still doesn't. I'm now running Linux debian 2.6.12-1-alpha-generic since 2.6 SMP doesn't even boot, hopefully this will be fixed one day. Which compiler? Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpSx2vpDxE4L.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BTS usertags for Alpha specific bugs
Hello Falk, On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 12:53:42AM +0100, Falk Hueffner wrote: maybe 140474 xmovie does not build on alpha I got the old version to build and run with the patch attached. Officially it never build on alpha, and the makefiles were for the Compaq Compilers. Since the package has not seen an upload for ages it is seriously out of date regarding Debian and upstream. In a different bug a patch was posted, so maybe either the Debian maintainer (who said about working on it after some exams several month ago) or someone else might do an upload which could be arch any? 146305 celestia: Arithmetic exception on alpha Yes, alpha specific. 152128 vcg: xvcg dies with segfault when opening a vcg file This is not reproducible on i386, but on several archs as it seems, and alpha is definitly one of those. 216836 gltron: Game - Start Game crashes gltron on alpha Well, the Debian maintainer accuses me of lying and does not want to help resolve this one, but yes, it appears on alpha (but I don't know if other archs are affecte, on amd64 it runs). Also: #157309: gs dies when called from xdvi with a certain eps on alpha #170502: lightspeed: Alpha: lightspeed crashes when animation is stopped #231392: konqueror: Can't talk to klauncher In the maybe category #262514: elinks: Crashed when following link in discover-docu In the maybe category Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgp4GOervwTOC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian Alpha + grsec
Hello, On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 01:42:36PM +0200, Pekka H wrote: I have AlphaServer ES40 and it work's just fine with self compiled 2.4.31 kernel, but when trying to use grsec patched kernel, (same version) using those grsec options from www.grsecurity.net/quickstart.pdf It always hangs.. I haven't checked the options above, but the organisation I worked at used grsecurity extensivly, also on alpha. When I left, one machine become a headless server which was configured even tighter than before. The only difference might be, that the latest kernel used was probably a late 2.4.2x, not (yet) 2.4.3x, but that should not make a difference. At the moment I do not have the kernel hang message because machine is about 200km from here (I'll get it to morrow) but is there some know'n bug etc on that That would be very helpful indeed. combination 2.4.31 + grsec or is there some default option that should absolutely enabled/disabled on alpha machines? None that I know of, but with grsecurity in general you can configure your system too tight, so I assume that to be a general problem, but without logs ... Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpZ9gHl62Qsl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: No mouse on Lx164
Hello, On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 11:43:39AM -0500, Robert Oram wrote: /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config , which wants to save the output to XF86Config, should I be using a different configuration utility? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 I have tried using Auto, Microsoft, and PS2 as mouse types, and using /dev/ps2, /dev/psaux, /dev/ttys0 in vrious combinations, with both a Option Device/dev/input/mice serial mouse and a ps2 mouse, to no avail. Does anyone know the correct type and path for an Lx164 or know what I am doing wrong? Or have any suggestions? Did you try configuring gpm? Even if you eventually don't need it, it is at least a simple programm to try. And once you've got it running, you know at least the port, type and fact that it works. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpeP1Gd9nB7N.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Requalification of Alpha for etch
Hello, On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 02:33:18PM +0200, Thimo Neubauer wrote: You can of course choose a name but I'd recommend bach. First, it definitely fits the original naming scheme http://people.debian.org/~joey/misc/naming.html of classical composers (including baroque, romantics and impressionists) of choir music and secondly the Alpha machines would form the Goedel, Escher, Bach-triple[1] :-) [1] from the very good book Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas R. Hofstadter Second (both statements). That would be great! Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpnLXFmW37kq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Requalification of Alpha for etch
Hello, On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 07:40:15PM +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote: following hppa and ia64, I've started a wiki page to start collecting info for the Alpha requalification for etch: http://wiki.debian.org/alphaEtchReleaseRecertification Great. * More developers need to certify in that they're activly developing on this architecture. I still maintain aboot, though a) I am not an official maintainer and b) my private alpha is currently not working. I have a co-maintainer who is exmining the current bugs, and I will try to get my alpha in a working state later this year/early next year. And I guess vorlon is also (still) working on alpha. (At least he uploads new aboot-packages for me :-)) It would also be nice if more people could install popularity-contest, so that we get a clearer picture on the number of users. Take the number of user as given. In my (former) instute, we have sevral machines (UP and SMP, 164, 264) which are used as servers and computing machines. Currently the staff is 36 (not including guests). If you need a formal statements of the current admins, please tell me so I can obtain it. Thanks for taking care of the requalification. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpalqRU1Jgqw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DS10L not boot
Hello, On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 01:51:38PM +0200, Rafael Ruiz Rubio wrote: I had a DS10L alphaserver without memory time ago. Now i have got two 256MB memory modules for DS10L, but when i try to boot my computer, i only can see a blue screen with a blink cursor on top left corner of my screen. Can you help me? What happen? Does the cursor blink behind ? Then you are at SRM. Try show dev to see what you can boot from, e.g. dqa0, and then try b dqa0 -fl i This should bring you to the aboot-prompt. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpMhlhck3rHK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: bzip2 unaligned trap
Hello,
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 10:26:21AM +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote:
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Rather, do not expect this to be fixed unless you can convert the
kernel-level trap into a userspace backtrace that the developers can
act on.
I'd say that's the maintainer's job, not the bug reporter's. So please
report it :-)
Well, if the submitter can produce such a backtrace, chances are much
higher to get it fixed and not simply ignored.
For reference, I attached the programm I used in the past and which I got
from this (or the Red Hat) list.
Greetings
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#include errno.h
#include stdio.h
#ifndef __linux__
#include sys/sysinfo.h
#else
#include asm/sysinfo.h
#include asm/unistd.h
static int setsysinfo(unsigned long op, void *buffer, unsigned long size,
int *start, void *arg, unsigned long flag)
{
syscall(__NR_osf_setsysinfo, op, buffer, size, start, arg, flag);
}
#endif
static void usage(void)
{
fprintf(stderr,
usage: unaligned command-path [command-args...]\n\n
This program is designed to assist debugging of\n
unaligned traps by running the program in gdb\n
and causing it to get SIGBUS when it encounters\n
an unaligned trap.\n\n
It is free software written by Sean Hunter [EMAIL
PROTECTED]\n
based on code by Richard Henderson and Andrew Morgan. It is
provided\n
under the gnu public license without warrantees of any
kind.\n\n);
exit(1);
}
void trap_unaligned(void)
{
unsigned int buf[2];
buf[0] = SSIN_UACPROC;
buf[1] = UAC_SIGBUS | UAC_NOPRINT;
setsysinfo(SSI_NVPAIRS, buf, 1, 0, 0, 0);
}
int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
char* tmp_filename;
char* my_debugger = /usr/bin/gdb;
FILE* tmp_file;
int curr_arg;
/* check that we have at least 1 argument */
if (argc 2) {
usage();
}
trap_unaligned();
if (argc 2) {
/* add the extra args to a file to pass to gdb */
tmp_filename = tmpnam(NULL);
tmp_file = fopen(tmp_filename, w+);
if (!tmp_file) {
fprintf(stderr, Unable to create temp file %s reason: %s\n,
tmp_filename,
strerror(errno));
}
fprintf(tmp_file, file %s\n, argv[1]);
fprintf(tmp_file, set args);
for(curr_arg = 2; curr_arg argc; curr_arg++) {
fprintf(tmp_file, %s, argv[curr_arg]);
}
fprintf(tmp_file, \n);
#ifndef NOAUTORUN
fprintf(tmp_file, run\n);
#endif
fclose(tmp_file);
printf(Extra arguments passed to gdb in file %s.\n
Be sure to delete it when you're done.\n\n,
tmp_filename);
execlp(my_debugger, argv[1], -x, tmp_filename, NULL);
}
else {
execlp(my_debugger, argv[1], NULL);
}
/* if we fall through to here, our exec failed -- announce the fact */
fprintf(stderr, Unable to execute command: %s\n, strerror(errno));
usage();
}
/* use gcc unaligned.c -o unaliged to compile. Add -DNOAUTORUN if you
don't want gdb to automatically run the program */
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Re: installation of aboot fails
Hello,
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 03:28:42PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
I guess, for the problem I am interested with, I must drop the d-i
partitioning step (partman) and do it manually with fdisk. Can someone
tell me how to proceed? My 2 days experience in the Debian Alpha-Linux
business isn't enough to figure it out alone!
I'm afraid partman isn't something that the installer currently allows you
to bypass.
When I installed the last time using d-i, I went to a shell to create
the partitions (actually LVM and logical volumes) by hand, proceeding
to mount it.
I suggest that you try to got to a shell (hit Alt-right arrow) and
use fdisk. From the SRM manual:
1. Start fdisk on the disk you're configuring
2. Choose to make a BSD disklabel - option 'b' (newer versions of
fdisk will detect existing BSD disklabels and automatically enter
disklabel mode)
3. You'll notice some things: Partitions are letters instead of
numbers, from a-h Partition 'c' covers the whole of the disk. This
is the convention, don't touch it. While you can see it, note down
the disk parameters as you'll use them more often than with the
DOS-disklabel approach
DOS-disklabel approach, except that the partitions are referred to
by letter instead of number. That is, 'n' to make a new partition
followed by the partition letter followed by the starting block
followed by the end block
5. Setting partition type is slightly different, because the
numbering scheme is different (1 is swap, 8 is ext2).
6. When you are finished, write ('w') and quit ('q') as normal.
There are some important catches that you must be aware of when
partitioning using a BSD disklabel:
* Partition 'a' should start about 1M into the disk: don't start it
at sector 1, try starting at sector 10 (for example). This leaves
plenty of space for writing the boot block (see below)
* There is a bug in some versions of fdisk which makes the disk look
one sector bigger than it actually is. The listing when you create
the BSD disklabel is correct. The last sector of partition 'c' is
correct. The default last sector when creating a new partition is
1 sector too big
* Always adjust for this extra sector. This bug exists in the
version of fdisk shipped with Red Hat 6.0. Not making an
adjustment for this problem almost always leads to Access beyond
end of device errors from the Linux kernel.
After partitioning the disk as you like it, return to the installer
(Alt-left arrow) and I think you can tell d-i to leave the partitioning
as-is. If it is not seen properly, throw in a few syncs or a reboot of the
installer.
Greetings
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Re: installation of aboot fails
Hello, On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 05:38:26AM +0200, Loic Domaigne wrote: I have two disks: one SCSI and one IDE. Tru64 used spans over the SCSI disk (system) and half of the IDE disk (used for the /home partition). How was this IDE disk partitioned before you started? I'd like to install Debian (latest stable release 3.1) on the remaining space of the IDE disk (place left: about 5.7 Gb). After an automatic partitioning, I got the following layout of the IDE disk (/dev/hdb): Partition Nr. Space Flags File System Mount Point #11.0MK aboot #280M F ext2/boot #35.4GF ext3/ #4288.2M F swapswap #84.4G(Tru64) Who gave this listing? What does fdisk -l /dev/hdb tell you? Is /dev/hda the CD? The installation process works fine until the step Install aboot on a hard disk. This step failed. Can you elaborate. What happened exactly? Error message? Did you see anything on the other terminals (with the logs)? 1) Can I boot the system without aboot? If yes, how? No. (In principle there is another way, but its not recommended unless you have specific reasons and Tru64 will not work with it and you would need to compeltely repartition) 2) Is there a possibility to get aboot properly installed on the IDE disk? Perhaps by partitioning manually? Well, first I need the info asked above. Then yes, you can install aboot manually, but depends on how actually are your answers to the above questions. If you have another (Debian) machine install aboot-base there and have a look at file:///usr/share/doc/aboot-base/SRM-HOWTO/srm-aboot.html#BOOTING with Harddisk Installation. But please report the answers first. 3) If it is not possible to get aboot, booting Debian from floppy would be ok. How do I generate such a bootable floppy? Yes. First lets see to get aboot working on your disk, because floppies are fragile. Ah... Just noticed that the install process somehow spoil the /home partition for Tru64... Guess, I'm doing something more than wrong :-( I was afraid such thing might happen given your layout. Can you please fill a bug against installation report once this thread has settled? Then this problem can be corrected. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpi3qakkURzR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Does tecnoballz work on alpha ?
Hello, tecnoballz does not work on amd64 (segfault on startup). I suspect a 64bit issue (dies in a malloc-call). Unfortunately, my alpha is currently down. Can someone check if tecnoballz works (starts up) on alpha? Thanks! Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpfQGRC89VZR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Does tecnoballz work on alpha ?
Hello Philip, On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 04:23:51PM +0100, Philip Kendall wrote: $ tecnoballz configfile::fopen_data(): Warning: Unable to open the file /usr/home/pak21/.tlkgames/tecnoballz.conf for read!!! open /dev/sequencer: No such device or address Segmentation fault Thanks, thats what I expected! I can do further investigation if required (but probably not very quickly). Not necessary ATM. Once tecnoballz runs on amd64 I might ask you to try again (unless the Debian maintainer wants something different which I don't know yet). Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpLqf33xxi6J.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Boot Parameters with Sarge
Hello, On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 08:44:58PM +0200, Roman Rupp wrote: But, after passing the parameters (0 ad1848 ispnp=0 io=530 irq=9 dma=0 dma2=1 0 is the first entry in aboot.conf) nothing happens again. The kernel starts, but there's no message from the driver in /var/log/messages, and the sound is still quiet. :-( I am not sure that this works. Can you try explicitly specifying the entire command, i.e., b 2/vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda2 initrd=/initrd.img ad1848 ispnp=0 io=530 irq=9 dma=0 dma2=1 (replace the first part with your actual contents of the 0th entry). Easier yet, add an entry into etc/aboot.conf with the full command before rebooting, then you can simply type, e.g., 9 for the test case. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpaAmqj0wYJq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sarge Release Notes - Architecture specific news?
Hello Frans, On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 09:02:35PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Friday 20 May 2005 13:56, Steve Langasek wrote: Does this need to be in the release notes when it's already in the installation manual? Upgrading a woody machine already running milo should work fine. I have no problems with adding a paragraph on this subject in chapter 3 [1] of the release notes for alpha. However, we don't have a few days. I would need a proposed text tomorrow (Saturday) at the latest. [1]http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/alpha/release-notes/ch-installing.en.html Ok. I would suggest adding the following paragraph at the end of this page: The installer requires the SRM-console to be present. Be sure to switch to SRM before starting the installation. If you have a AlphaBIOS/Arc-only machine you need to to a (minimal) woody installation and a subsequent upgrade. For more information about the different consoles please read the references on the a href=http://www.debian.org/ports/alpha;Debian alpha port web pages/a. I can update the ports-page to list the boot-options later this year (sorry, I am on the move right now), so that this information is more visible. But the links in the links-Section of the ports-page should already answer all the details. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpumk0JSLlQT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sarge Release Notes - Architecture specific news?
Hello, On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 03:06:13AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: (Resending to arch lists.) If there is any architecture specific news that you'd like to have included in the Release Notes (like new subarchs supported or dropped), please send a proposed text to the d-doc mailing list (CC your architecture list) before the end of this week. I did not check this, but it has to be taken care of, that only SRM machines are supported, i.e., all milo-only machines cannot install Sarge, and those with both AlphaBIOS/SRM need to switch to SRM before installing. Who is responsible for the alpha-specific text? If you can point me to an authorative URL and a contact person, I can try to phrase something, but it may take a few days as I am on the move, currently. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpv7BqKysLys.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sarge Release Notes - Architecture specific news?
Hello, On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 04:56:21AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 01:27:08PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: Hello, On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 03:06:13AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: (Resending to arch lists.) If there is any architecture specific news that you'd like to have included in the Release Notes (like new subarchs supported or dropped), please send a proposed text to the d-doc mailing list (CC your architecture list) before the end of this week. I did not check this, but it has to be taken care of, that only SRM machines are supported, i.e., all milo-only machines cannot install Sarge, and those with both AlphaBIOS/SRM need to switch to SRM before installing. Who is responsible for the alpha-specific text? If you can point me to an authorative URL and a contact person, I can try to phrase something, but it may take a few days as I am on the move, currently. Does this need to be in the release notes when it's already in the installation manual? Upgrading a woody machine already running milo should work fine. I am not sure. I just had a look a the Release Notes, and in chapter 2 it states that the number of architectures has not changed. This is, of course, correct, but a well-defined subset is only supported via install woody and upgrade. Of course, the manual referes for details to the web pages where I stated that only SRM-based machines are supported. Nevertheless, either one sentece below this table or in the table it *could* be mentioned, because someone might see that Linux Alpha is supported, see that the machine runs under Linux and miss that she needs SRM for the combination (because she reads the installation manual later). For example, I see that the hppa-port uses a paragraph there. If you like, I can try to phrase one or two sentences there for alpha. But I guess it is not so important. So if this is somehow problematic to add/change, then we can safly leave it as is. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgp8PwfFNGRI4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SRM troubles
Hello, On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 09:51:56PM -0400, Neil Roeth wrote: One more idea - is it possible that the machine is set up to use a serial console? Maybe that is supported under SRM and not AlphaBIOS, which is why the display worked under AlphaBIOS. Mine was set to use the serial console when I got it. I used a null modem cable between the XP1000 and a second machine and ran minicom on the second machine. You could try that and see if you get anything in minicom when you power cycle it. Often it helps in this case to move the mouse and hit some keys. If you get a prompt then, this is the cause. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpJ9KlgAKH2r.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian-sarge en ES45 OK
Hello, can you repost this in english? A friend of mine made a rought translation, but he was not 100% sure and other participants might be interested in your experience on this machine as well. On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:19:34PM -0500, navickator shadow wrote: Bueno, despues de mucho trabajar e intentar he podido instalar debian sarge en una maquina alphaserver ES45. Proximamente sacare un manual para todos los que tengan esta maquinas tan problematicas. Please open bugs for things which did not work/were you had problems you fixed yourself (but which should work out of the box). Thanks! Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp0eCnmLzYX2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Request for help: unaligned trap
Hello, On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:45:43PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Usually not; usually such bugs are reproducible on sparc and ia64 as well, and IIRC both of those architectures are easier to debug because the trap is exposed to userspace (i.e., SIGBUS), making it much simpler to get a backtrace. You can achieve this on alpha as well, several years ago people posted wrappers for doing this. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpLoRrd8OVMI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: File system problem
Hello, On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 02:57:21PM +0200, Padiyath Sreekumaran wrote: I have added the following line in my fstab for /dev/sda3 /dev/sda3 /scratch ext2 defaults 1 2 When I execute mount -a I get the following error: lnsa14:/# mount -a mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda4, or too many mounted file systems I also see the following output from dmesg: VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev sd(8,4) What is this error? How can I correct it without reinstalling the SW? Are you sure you formatted this partition already? Do you expect any data there? Otherwise simply use mke2fs on /dev/sda3. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp2ImP7qWVbs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Kernel upgrade
Hello, On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 02:55:19PM +0100, Padiyath Sreekumaran wrote: I am new to Linux. I just installed Debian Linux on a Digital Personal WorkStation 433au. My kernel version is #uname -a Linux lnsa14 2.2.20 #2 Welcome aboard. You installed woody, correct? I want to upgrade the kernel to the latest version. How I have to proceed? Do you want to go to 2.4 or 2.6? In general you will need newer tools with 2.6, but if you want only 2.4, a recompile of 2.4 should be sufficient. If you are not confident in building your own kernel, or if you want 2.6, then the best way is to upgrade to testing. From where I can get the kernel for upgrade? What commands I have to execute? Judging by your questions, you are new to Debian? Best way is to read some introduction. There are lots of books, HOWTOS and so on in http://www.debian.org/doc/ Or maybe you have a local Debian guru around? These questions are fairly arch independent. Whether I have to compile the kernel on my machine? No. You can, but if you are a beginner, I would strongly recommend to use the pre-build one. Where I can get KDE, Mozilla for debian? apt-get install mozilla apt-get install kde but if you need more recent once then in Woody, I would recommend to upgrade to testing first. Where I find a Fortran Compiler for debian? Is it possible to get HP fortran? Yes. Check the archives for details. There are installer packages in contrib (use apt-cache search for them). I don't know if they work, but they did so in the past. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpfuiiTuzBkr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: clamd crash?
Hello, On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 05:11:14PM +0100, Adrian Zaugg wrote: On my alpha, the kernel reports the following abaout clamd in the syslog: Jan 6 16:38:07 ente kernel: clamd(27863): unaligned trap at 02037750: 0200012fecf2 28 0 This means, that clamd tried to access some memory which the CPU cannot directly access, because the address is not properly aligned. The kernel fixes that, and then the access occurs. So this message is harmless, except that it costs you a little performance. I find those records several times a day. What does this mean? Do I have to file a bug? You can file a whishlist bug if you want, but do not expect developers to jump onto it. Sometimes an alignement problem hides other problems, but unless you note problems related to these messages (i.e., a malfunction whenever it occurs) I would not worry. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp2Q8SkOHGEa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: woody-sarge upgrade trouble
Hello, On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 11:45:15AM -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote: First, perl and perl-modules upgraded without perl-base, such that a package with install-docs in its pre- or postrm (libxml2-dev in this case) can't find Basename.pm. To fix this, I had to install perl-base by hand and restart the upgrade. This is pretty significant breakage, but where to file the bug, perl, or apt, or ?? I would file it against perl and let the perl-maintainer figure out what the best path/patch is. Second, menu reinstalled but was not configured prior to being used by a prerm. So when ghostview's update failed with: Removing ghostview ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/ghostview.postrm: /usr/bin/update-menus: Permission denied dpkg: error processing ghostview (--purge): subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 Again, where's the bug, and what's its nature? Does menu need to be configured right at install time, like many others? I would file against ghostscript, so that ghostscript would check if /usr/bin/update-menus is available and executable. Of course this would only prevent the upgrade error. Maybe file a wishlist bug against menu to get it configured immediatelly (sorry, I don't know the innards of the preinst and friends to actually say if this is sensible). But maybe the menu maintainer can give you hints how it should be done previously. Both bugs are IMHO release critical. Greetings thanks for testing Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpMcHFhYnCZF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: New User Question
Hello, On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 10:27:05PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: Still other models will only work with SRM or only work with Alpha BIOS. If your machine falls into this final case it may be trickier (but not impossible) to install Debian on it. My recollection is that the woody installer worked with Alpha BIOS but the sarge installer does not, so you may have to install woody and then upgrade. Strictly speaking there is no BIOS on alphas. There are several boot mechanisms, the most prominent are SRM/aboot and AlphaBIOS/Milo. I strongly suggest trying to use SRM/aboot unless you want to dualboot NT. And yes, woody supported MILO, but noone has stepped up to port this support to d-i, and hence no direct install of Sarge possible on MILO-only machines. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpZqOJzCETL6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: I need build access to a Sarge chroot for alpha
Hello, On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 12:44:00PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: I just had to rebuild 800 packages (because I can't be sure which ones are broken) for amd64 because the buildd seems to sometimes produce packages with missing files. Wouldn't it be better to fix the autobuilder then? IMHO autobuilder should be more reliable than a random person. Sometimes builds don't work right. Thats life. Sure, but then the buildds should get fixed. PS: A good package would check the existing files against what it expects and run some other tests during build. Ok, I will bear that in mind when I work on my packages next time. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpM1Pafx7Hyt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: USB Hardware
Hello, On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 02:30:30PM -0500, Allen Ziegenfus wrote: Why is that? Does this apply to other alphas as well? I have a PC164LX and I've found that the only PCI card that works in any of the slots is my video card. I've tried a Soundblaster sound card and a 3com NIC and each ones hangs the whole machine when I try to load drivers. I have/had SCSI (two cards), USB/Firewire Combo, BTTV, various graphic cards running in my LX. It definitly works. Lightning took out my external modem one time so I figured that maybe the PCI slots got killed too somehow. Sounds more plausible to me. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpAJ7dsUao9j.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: I need build access to a Sarge chroot for alpha
Hello, On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 10:26:53PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 10:46:18AM -0600, Robin Verduijn wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 11:10:17PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: If you are not a buildd maintainer, you should not be uploading binary packages to the archive that you have not tested. This is triply true of the testing-proposed-updates queue, which gets practically zero real-world testing by users before being committed to testing. So there is nothing I can (or should) do to help kvirc get out of t-p-u into testing? Will it start being picked up by autobuildds at some point and still be able to make it into testing? The conclusion I draw from your email is that t-p-u never really gets the testing it should since packages in t-p-u will always get in through the backdoor, so to speak. t-p-u gets minimal user testing; this means the burden is on uploaders and the release team to ensure the correctness of the packages added this way. It is generally assumed that the buildd environments will upload correct (which is to say, consistent) packages. No such guarantees are possible with hand-built packages; instead, we trust that hand-built packages have been tested by the uploader. If this is *not* the case, there are no other safeguards against broken binary packages making it to testing by this route. So if anything, uploading untested binaries to t-p-u is likely to mean more work for the maintainer and the release team, in order to fix the problems a broken package would cause. This is a real problem. A while ago I wanted to use a package[1] just to find out some files were missing. The reason was the maitainer had asked to get it build manually which somehow got those files missing. The fix was a trivial rebuild, but still this can be easily avoided by sticking to autobuild packages unless you can test them yourself. Greetings Helge [1] This is a real case and if you happen to need more info, just mail me in private. -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpDPwgw3ZUCY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: memtest in SRM
Hello, On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 06:41:53PM +0100, Thimo Neubauer wrote: randomly allocate memory. In short: the examples from the SRM-manual won't work... I experience this problem both with a SX164 and a UP1000. What am I doing wrong? Sorry, I don't know, but once you got it working, can you supply me the correct way so I can incorporate it into the SRM-Manual? Thanks. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpBXKKw1fK1s.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ctrl+alt+backspace
Hello, On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 03:49:40PM -0800, Alam Elakkad wrote: You got any idea where I can get help? can you help? Well, I cannot help. Please check the SuSE-Sites for mailing lists, or use the SuSE bug-reporting system. I am running suse 8.0 kernel version 2.4 This list is for Debian on Alpha, hence I don't think many people here will be able to help (I assume you use an x86-based machine). Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp7Ens5aGKC7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ccc and cfal on alphas
Hello Toni, On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 06:34:22AM -0400, Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] wrote: Caveat: I had some difficulty getting these to work on sarge, due to strangeness in gcc. For some reason, the installer of the alpha compilers uses gcc for some aspect of the install. gcc did not work right, so the install failed. I had to change the gcc specs file and the alpha compiler's install script. But once installed the compilers appear to work fine. I encountered this too and opened a bug report on this. Can you please send the required modifications to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpJPhinhzQYY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel-image-2.4.27 and alsa-modules
Hello Jan-Jaap. On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 01:42:18PM +0200, Jan-Jaap van der Heijden wrote: Hello, I'm trying to build alsa-modules from alsa source for ... So, I propose this fix: Please use the BTS so it can be properly processed. Thanks. --- unistd.h.orig 2004-09-13 12:13:22.0 +0200 +++ unistd.h 2004-09-13 12:14:49.0 +0200 @@ -519,6 +519,7 @@ #include linux/string.h #include linux/signal.h +#include asm/ptrace.h extern void sys_idle(void); static inline void idle(void) Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpLSrPBJn8gd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installation on 164-SX
Hello, On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 04:06:58PM -0300, ivan wrote: Hello all. I'm trying to install woody on a alpha SX164, but i still got no sucess. I can't boot from the cd with milo, when I load manually the kernel image the system hangs. I was hoping to be able to instal woody or sarge on this machine without removing the AlphaBIOS and using SRM. Is this possible? How? Woody: It should be possible to use AlphaBIOS. Search the list for the various download-locations of milos, if those provided by Debian do not work. Still SRM is suggested. Sarge/d-i: No one has stepped forward to develop/maintain the installer for use with milos. So if you play around you might get it working by odd chance (i.e., you know the manual steps at the right point of time), but it is not expected to work. Either use SRM or first install woody and then do a dist-upgrade. What is the reason for not switching to SRM? Unsupported hardware? Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgptmA1gJqp1d.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian on a Alphaserver 1200
Hello, On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 11:20:26AM +0200, Angelo Machils wrote: Yesterday I was able to make the partitions (I made an 'a' partition, leaving more then 10Mb, free at the first cilinders as the manuals state), then making several other partitions to fill the first 18Gb disk (not making any partition bigger then 6Gb, because ext2 performs poorly on partition bigger then 6Gb and leaving the 'c' because that is supposed to be the whole disk if I understand everything correctly). Then I was able to install, but when I tried to boot it from the disk, it gave me an error message. Since it was already 9 in the evening, I decided to go home :) I am in another office now, so I can't really check the error message, but perhaps I made a mistake in the partitions, I'm not sure. I have to check tomorrow, and try and try again :) I find the partitioning quite 'difficult' and there isn't much of documentation. The things I find are for installing Linux as a second OS in a dual-boot environment. In fact it is not very difficult, just unusual for people coming from the x86-world. The partitions are labled A:, B:, C: and so on. (I think you can have eight, i.e., up to H:). So you leave some space at the beginning, 10MB is much more than you need, but it does not harm. Then simply put in the partitions as you need them. If you only use Linux, you can safly use C: as normal partition. Some *BSD-derived OS use C: for everything so they can dump the disk in one go. Linux does not need it, and you should only do it if you intend to share the disk between Linux and another OS. So: A: /boot B: / C: /usr D: /home ... I always use LVM, but that is a bit tricker to install. So please post your error message when it is available. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpQaXU8BxQPK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Greetings Question
Hello, On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 09:59:50PM +0200, noX wrote: SRM-Howto Link at alphalinux is broken (I have already read the alphabios howto), and I didn't found it. I will start with that. http://www.alphalinux.org/faq/srm.html The links from http://www.alphalinux.org/docs/ worked fine for me. Or did you follow a different link? And if you find errors in the SRM-Howto, please inform me so I can include the corrections in the next update. Btw. the latest version of this document is now shipped with aboot as well. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgphpRMvei8cb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian on a Alphaserver 1200
On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 10:19:41AM +0200, Angelo Machils wrote: Hello! I'm totally new on Alpha, but I got this Alphaserver 1200 (one CPU version) and I'm trying to install Debian on it. But after the reboot when I give the command boot dka500 -flags 0 it returns with the following error-message: * dka500.5.0.1.1 has no media present or is disabled via the RUN/STOP switch (this message 4 times) * failed to open dka500.5.0.1.1 What does show dev tell you when you are in SRM? Also I recommend during testing to use -fl i and list the available options in aboot.conf via l on the aboot-prompt. Are you using the new debian-installer or are you using the boot-floppies from woody? Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp34sZbauXGE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian on a Alphaserver 1200
Hello, On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 11:12:19AM +0200, Angelo Machils wrote: sh dev say for the cdrom: (connected to the NCR0, NCR 53C810 card) dka500.5.0.1.1DKA500 RRD46 1337 I'm using the netinst CD I got from: http://www.phy.olemiss.edu/debian-cd/ (I got that link from http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/) So you are using the woody installer. Should work. Can you please post the entrie output of this command? As I understand, you already installed, and want to boot from the hard disk? How do I get at the aboot prompt Like I said, I'm very new at the Alpha and I got it last friday, and I haven't read all of the User's Guide yet :) In a nutshell: SRM - aboot - Linux (Similarly to BIOS-grub-Linux). If you boot with -fl 0 then aboot uses the 0th entry in its aboot.conf, with -fl i you get a command line where you can either boot a predefined entry or somthing else. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpwXOjga1TNJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian on a Alphaserver 1200
Hello, On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 10:09:00PM +1200, Lyndsay Roger wrote: The flags is an index into the line in /etc/aboot.conf to boot from. It is like lilo but for the alpha. It is rather like grub, i.e., when you update your etc/aboot.conf you don't need to run something (like lilo) but can simply use it on next boot. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp67PWWzLc0v.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Woody security updates for the Alpha
Hello, On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 04:40:21PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: They are still not present. Should I file this as a bug against libapache-mod-ssl ? Filed and resolved. DSA-532-1 is now availabel in security.d.o for alpha as well. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpskv5o08hSo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Woody security updates for the Alpha
Hello, On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 12:48:44PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 08:48:49PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 12:42:36PM -0700, Bob Lindell wrote: [SECURITY] [DSA 532-1] New libapache-mod-ssl packages fix multiple vulnerabilities Anyone know why the recent security updates didn't include binary packages for the Alpha architecture? The primary alpha autobuilder is off-line, and the backup autobuilder is having trouble catching up with the backlog (it's actually struggling even to keep up with unstable). This means security updates are currently getting short shrift. I haven't been paying a whole lot of attention to the security builds -- I don't have any alphas running woody at this point -- but if people want to indicate to me which of the security fixes they're in need of, I can queue them for building here. If you could queue libapache-mod-ssl that would be great. They are still not present. Should I file this as a bug against libapache-mod-ssl ? Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpxVkOczJDMH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Help: Perl crashes, probably pthread-problem?
self = 0x118b8
#1 0x020d85dc in __flockfile (stream=0x0) at lockfile.c:29
No locals.
#2 0x021f32ec in _IO_fflush (fp=0x120424f30) at iofflush.c:47
_buffer = {__routine = 0x20d85f0 __funlockfile,
__arg = 0x120424f30, __canceltype = 0, __prev = 0x0}
_avail = 1
result = 536869048
#3 0x0001201b4f44 in PerlIOStdio_flush (my_perl=0x12021eea0,
f=0x120233b50) at perlio.c:3106
stdio = (FILE *) 0x120424f30
#4 0x0001201b0f70 in Perl_PerlIO_flush (my_perl=0x12021eea0,
f=0x120233b50) at perlio.c:1599
tab = (PerlIO_funcs *) 0x12020c3b8
#5 0x0001201b1034 in Perl_PerlIO_flush (my_perl=0x12021eea0,
f=0x120233b50) at perlio.c:1623
i = 8
table = (PerlIO **) 0x120233b10
code = 0
#6 0x00012016b4b0 in Perl_pp_system (my_perl=0x12021eea0) at pp_sys.c:4090
sp = (SV **) 0x1204092c8
mark = (SV **) 0x1204092c0
origmark = 0
targ = (SV *) 0x1202da210
value = 3197336
n_a = 2
result = 536995568
did_pipes = 0
#7 0x0001200af914 in Perl_runops_debug (my_perl=0x12021eea0)
at dump.c:1442
No locals.
#8 0x00012002608c in S_run_body (my_perl=0x12021eea0, oldscope=1)
at perl.c:1921
No locals.
#9 0x0001200258ec in perl_run (my_perl=0x12021eea0) at perl.c:1840
oldscope = 1
ret = 0
cur_env = {je_prev = 0x12021f118, je_buf = {{__jmpbuf = {
2199023424016, 4831836344, 4833756736, 2, 4831962864, 2199026431760,
4831991884, 4831835728, 4831835728, 0, 2882303761517117440, 0,
2882303761517117440, 3458764513820540928, 4035225266123964416,
1152921504606846976, 2882303761517117440}, __mask_was_saved = 0,
__saved_mask = {__val = {4834066704, 4831974288, 4831836096, 4834061984,
4831836096, 4834061984, 4834066704, 4834071088, 1729382256910270464,
4831963060, 2199023424016, 4831836208, 4218575435983750144,
4834061984, 0, 4831838184, je_ret = 0, je_mustcatch = 0 '\0'}
#10 0x00012001e84c in main (argc=2, argv=0x118b8, env=0x118d0)
at perlmain.c:86
exitstatus = 0
(gdb)
#0 *__GI___pthread_mutex_lock (mutex=0x120424f30) at mutex.c:102
self = 0x118b8
#1 0x020d85dc in __flockfile (stream=0x0) at lockfile.c:29
No locals.
#2 0x021f32ec in _IO_fflush (fp=0x120424f30) at iofflush.c:47
_buffer = {__routine = 0x20d85f0 __funlockfile,
__arg = 0x120424f30, __canceltype = 0, __prev = 0x0}
_avail = 1
result = 536869048
#3 0x0001201b4f44 in PerlIOStdio_flush (my_perl=0x12021eea0,
f=0x120233b50) at perlio.c:3106
stdio = (FILE *) 0x120424f30
#4 0x0001201b0f70 in Perl_PerlIO_flush (my_perl=0x12021eea0,
f=0x120233b50) at perlio.c:1599
tab = (PerlIO_funcs *) 0x12020c3b8
#5 0x0001201b1034 in Perl_PerlIO_flush (my_perl=0x12021eea0,
f=0x120233b50) at perlio.c:1623
i = 8
table = (PerlIO **) 0x120233b10
code = 0
#6 0x00012016b4b0 in Perl_pp_system (my_perl=0x12021eea0) at pp_sys.c:4090
sp = (SV **) 0x1204092c8
mark = (SV **) 0x1204092c0
origmark = 0
targ = (SV *) 0x1202da210
value = 3197336
n_a = 2
result = 536995568
did_pipes = 0
#7 0x0001200af914 in Perl_runops_debug (my_perl=0x12021eea0)
at dump.c:1442
No locals.
#8 0x00012002608c in S_run_body (my_perl=0x12021eea0, oldscope=1)
at perl.c:1921
No locals.
#9 0x0001200258ec in perl_run (my_perl=0x12021eea0) at perl.c:1840
oldscope = 1
ret = 0
cur_env = {je_prev = 0x12021f118, je_buf = {{__jmpbuf = {
2199023424016, 4831836344, 4833756736, 2, 4831962864, 2199026431760,
4831991884, 4831835728, 4831835728, 0, 2882303761517117440, 0,
2882303761517117440, 3458764513820540928, 4035225266123964416,
1152921504606846976, 2882303761517117440}, __mask_was_saved = 0,
__saved_mask = {__val = {4834066704, 4831974288, 4831836096, 4834061984,
4831836096, 4834061984, 4834066704, 4834071088, 1729382256910270464,
4831963060, 2199023424016, 4831836208, 4218575435983750144,
4834061984, 0, 4831838184, je_ret = 0, je_mustcatch = 0 '\0'}
#10 0x00012001e84c in main (argc=2, argv=0x118b8, env=0x118d0)
at perlmain.c:86
exitstatus = 0
(gdb) quit
Any help appreciated.
Greetings
Helge
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Re: Help: Perl crashes, probably pthread-problem?
Hello Falk, On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 03:15:35PM +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote: I can't reproduce this with perl 5.8.4-2 and libc6.1 2.3.2.ds1-13 from sid. Can you perhaps try upgrading either? I'll check tonight the version I am using, I am on testing but a quick look indicates that the those versions are available in testing. Strange. Thanks for your quick reply. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp59n3KfbaK0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Help: Perl crashes, probably pthread-problem?
Hello, On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 03:15:35PM +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote: Helge Kreutzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a small perl program http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi/smallTest.pl?bug=243311msg=3att=2 using a small module: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi/iohelp.pm?bug=243311msg=3att=1 This perl script crashes perl. To reproduce, type/tab complete e.g.: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/prog/db/eingabe$ ./smallTest.pl y, Protokoll:: http Publisher: y, Protokoll:: http Publisher: y, Protokoll:: http Publisher: Speicherzugriffsfehler (core dumped) (Speicherzugriffsfehler == segmentation fault) I can't reproduce this with perl 5.8.4-2 and libc6.1 2.3.2.ds1-13 from sid. Can you perhaps try upgrading either? well, I have the same version of perl and glibc. How often did you go through the cycle? I noticed that I need to do an extra cycle if I tried it in xterm (as opposed to the console). If I set env LANG=C ./smallTest.pl and then I need one cycle less (2 on the console, 3 in xterm). I run it under strace -eopen and it did not use any file from /usr/local so I am pretty confident that I have not messed up my system. I will try it on monday in the changeroot at work. If you have any other suggestions for tracking this down, any help greatly appreciated. Thanks! Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpzcErMk57cb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Kernel panic after fixating CD-ROM
Hello, On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 11:04:19AM +0200, Alexander Strop wrote: Today i wanted to brun several cds. After brurning the iso's on cd cdrecord starts to fix the cd. After fixating (The Cd's are readable) the Workstation crashes with Kernel Panic (Killing interrupt handler etc..) Can you elaborate? Is there anything in the logs, what does it show on the screen? Workstation: Alpha DS10 2x 18GB U2W SCSI What SCSI card do you use? Yamaha 4x/4x/16 at the same controller. Debian Woody Which kernel? The woody one? Self-made? Maybee thats the problem? What? Your configuration? Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp1BVZiWuV3z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Woody security updates for the Alpha
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 08:48:49PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 12:42:36PM -0700, Bob Lindell wrote: [SECURITY] [DSA 532-1] New libapache-mod-ssl packages fix multiple vulnerabilities Anyone know why the recent security updates didn't include binary packages for the Alpha architecture? The primary alpha autobuilder is off-line, and the backup autobuilder is having trouble catching up with the backlog (it's actually struggling even to keep up with unstable). This means security updates are currently getting short shrift. I haven't been paying a whole lot of attention to the security builds -- I don't have any alphas running woody at this point -- but if people want to indicate to me which of the security fixes they're in need of, I can queue them for building here. If you could queue libapache-mod-ssl that would be great. Thanks! Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpnOwy9nFruL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000
Hello, On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 12:54:28PM -0400, Michael Galloway wrote: i normally boot 0 the interesting part is the clone disk boots fine on the original system, but not on either of the other systems. Same SCSI adapter? Does your clone boot if you use the *original* master disk? Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpflWdM1L8Dq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 08:40:00AM -0400, Michael Galloway wrote: Hi Steve! ok, so what is the real functional difference? Stable (Woody at the moment): A bit dated, but very well tested and security support available. Testing (Sarge at the moment): Automatically generated from unstable for packages meeting certain (quality) criteria. No security support available, user has to wait until fix propagates from unstable. Unstable (Sid): Main development branch of Debian. Security issues are dealt by new uploads (possibly new version). Very current, occassionally (but seldom) things break here (and thus are delayed from propagating into testing). Once the number of release-critical bugs is low enough (zero) Testing will be frozen (no new propagation from unstable) and declared stable under the name of Sarge. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpj6VTCE24HX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000
Hello, On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 10:59:23AM -0400, Michael Galloway wrote: SystemA: good install of sarge onto /dev/sda, sda is 128M free space, 16G ext2 mounted on / , 2GB swap. to clone the disk i'm doing: init 1, swapoff -a, mount -n -o remount,ro / dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=1024k the dd completes as expected, i can mount /dev/sdb2 and it looks ok. when i put the clone disk into systemB if fails to boot, it gets too aboot and aboot tries to load the kernel, with a number of normal looking aboot messages but it finally hangs at: aboot: starting kernel vmlinuz with args ro root=/dev/sda2 and hangs there. What happens, if you boot with -fl i and then run l in aboot on the broken machine? Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp23E6ufFRpu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000
Hello Michael, On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 12:18:53PM -0400, Michael Galloway wrote: Moin Helge! i get the normalish looking: 0:2/vmlinuz ro initrd=/initrd.imb root=/dev/sda2 1:2/vmlinuz.old initrd=/initrd.img 2:3/vmlinuz.net.gz ro root=/dev/sda2 3:3/vmlinuz ro root=/ev/sda2 8:- ro root=/dev/dsda2 9:0/- ro Which entry do you attempt to boot? 0: and 3: look corrupted to me. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgphb6KDTrz7q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel-image packages for alpha in need of testing
Hello Steve, On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 03:31:07PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: I'll rebuild and repost. I've rebuilt and reposted. CD-Image: Works (i.e. the module loading problem is gone, all other points remain, including the segfault when choosing modules). I applied the kernel image fix and rebuild 2.4.25 (with the latest adaptec). Without the patch, my machine would freeze when detecting the adaptec, with the patch I was able to work for more than 7 hours, including rescannig the external SCSI bus and formatting media there. So yes, this patch should definitly go into the (Debian-)Kernel. Thanks! Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp9JG3DAGgk6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel-image packages for alpha in need of testing
Hello Steve,
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 04:27:39PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 09:16:18AM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
* Please turn IDE-DMA off by default, at least for installs. On my alpha
I see tons of scary messages, and trying to use the IDE drives fails
(on installed kernels), c.f. #241185 for details. Since for many alphas
IDE-support is very poor (hardware-wise), I think keeping it off during
installs is wise. Maybe the installer could ask/guess later on, if DMA
should be attempted. Or it should always add ide=nodma in
/etc/aboot.conf
and an installation note should inform the user that (s)he can remove it.
I've been asked by the Debian kernel maintainers to get more information
about the specific IDE controller you have (PCI ID, etc.), so that it
can be appropriately blacklisted in the kernel images instead of being
disabled with an overbroad boot-time option in the installer.
FWIW, DMA also doesn't work on my IDE controller, but the installer
(kernel) figures this out on its own.
The releveant part of the boot log with DMA enabled is:
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
ide: late registration of driver.
CMD646: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:0b.0
CMD646: chipset revision 1
CMD646: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
CMD646: chipset revision 0x01, MultiWord DMA Limited, IRQ workaround enabled
ide0: BM-DMA at 0x8800-0x8807, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0x8808-0x880f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
hda: IBM-DTTA-351010, ATA DISK drive
hdb: IC35L120AVVA07-0, ATA DISK drive
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
blk: queue fffc00249918, no I/O memory limit
blk: queue fffc00249af8, no I/O memory limit
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
hda: attached ide-disk driver.
hda: 19807200 sectors (10141 MB) w/466KiB Cache, CHS=19650/16/63, (U)DMA
hdb: attached ide-disk driver.
hdb: 241254720 sectors (123522 MB) w/1863KiB Cache, CHS=239340/16/63, (U)DMA
Partition check:
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0:4hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x62
hda: error waiting for DMA
hda: dma timeout retry: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
blk: queue fffc00249918, no I/O memory limit
p1 p2 p3 p4 p5 p6 p7
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0:4hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x62
hdb: error waiting for DMA
hdb: dma timeout retry: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
blk: queue fffc00249af8, no I/O memory limit
p1 p2 p3
Journalled Block Device driver loaded
hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x62
hda: error waiting for DMA
hda: dma timeout retry: status=0x5a { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Index
}
blk: queue fffc00249918, no I/O memory limit
hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x62
hda: error waiting for DMA
hda: dma timeout retry: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x62
hda: error waiting for DMA
hda: dma timeout retry: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
I have provided lots of system information in #241185, please tell me which
exact information you need.
* Any NIC I chose results in a printed Segmentation fault. I did not
expect
it to actually find any NIC, since my old one was doing strange things
and a 3c509B I got is not recognized in my alpha (neither Jumpstart (2.2
based), nor 2.4.21-pre1, nor 2.4.26). After the segfault, the hardware
detection bar is shown briefly, and I am again at the choosing NIC
selection.
Hmm, not good. :/ Never seen this before... does this also happen with
the most recently-posted mini-ISO?
I have not tried the one you just informed me about, but the one from
sunday: yes.
* Detect NIC-Hardware is not available in german (or switching did not
work).
I currently do some test installs on my ibook (ppc) as well, where all
screens are in german. If you can point me to the proper .po-files, I can
translate them.
The package is the same for ppc and alpha (though I don't know off-hand
which package this is). I'm not sure why you would get translations
with one, but not the other.
The image from sunday was translated the first round, but not the
second. Maybe I simply overlooked it in my first attempt. Will check
it carefully with the new ISO.
* I see that the list of modules is quite limited. Since no aic7xxx is
available on this ISO, I was unable to test if the aic7xxx-fix has gone
in. I think aic7xxx should be included (if the fix is available, of
course).
These missing modules were also seen in the log (by hw-detect).
(Update when sending: Was the module left out on purpose?)
If you point at unstable from this installer instead of testing
(requires using DEBCONF_PRIORITY=medium or lower, IIRC), additional
modules for 2.4.26 will be available. These are from the official
kernel image
Re: aboot and framebuffer
Hello, On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 06:02:35PM +0200, Ralf Pelzl wrote: here is a newbie question is it possible to switch at boottime in a high-res mode with framebuffer ? i try it like on a i386 with the video= switch. but it doesnt work. the only way for me is an entry in the inittab to set the resolution via fbset. is there a way to set it via aboot.conf ? Can you elaborate on it doesn't work? What exactly did you try? Did you add the video= switch after all other arguments in your /etc/aboot.conf? I never tried it, but if it doesn't work, I'd like to know what exactly happens. Thanks Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp4HxGFRUOlv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel-image packages for alpha in need of testing
Hello, On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 04:18:47PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: Sorry for wasting your bandwidth on the broken iso. I'll post again as soon as I have 2.4.26 working in d-i. The busybox maintainer has kindly provided an updated udeb that supports modules generated by the latest binutils. The images at http://people.debian.org/~vorlon/fixed-alpha-kernels/ have been updated as well, and verified to work. Note that the only kernels available in the archive to be installed are still broken, so you can only use this for testing the new kernels, not really for installing a usable system sarge system. Is the iso fixed as well? I used this 875051085ccfea30c88a7eb1edaa0c32 /scratch/zola/burn/cdrom-mini.iso one from your site, and it looked quite buggy: a)I quickly noted an error unmounting /initrd failed b)For many, if not all, net-modules, I get a red warning box telling me, that modprobe -v NAME has failed, with NAME in via82cxxx, trm290, ... c)Pressing Alt-Leftarrow, I see scrolling messages: tail /var/log/syslog: No such file or directory tail: no file d)One console further, I see for every module load attempt: insmod: Unhandled relocation error of type 10 for .text (repeated several times) unresolved symbols insmod: faild to load NAME e)The segfaults after selecting any network modules are still present d)The language in the first run selecting network adapters is now german, but from the second round on is english e)I cannot officially quit the installation: Selcting none as network adapters asks for a driver disk, which then brings me back to the selection of the adapter. f)Since module loading did not work, and no aic7xxx module was present, I could not check if the fix provided there indeed works. I got the kernel source from your site and will try building my own kernel over the next days. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpgayD0mLkyU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel-image packages for alpha in need of testing
Hello Steve, On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 04:18:47PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: Sorry for wasting your bandwidth on the broken iso. I'll post again as soon as I have 2.4.26 working in d-i. The busybox maintainer has kindly provided an updated udeb that supports modules generated by the latest binutils. The images at http://people.debian.org/~vorlon/fixed-alpha-kernels/ have been updated as well, and verified to work. Note that the only kernels available in the archive to be installed are still broken, so you can only use this for testing the new kernels, not really for installing a usable system sarge system. I tried out the ISO. Maybe even though it was broken, you can get some (general?) conclusions out of it. I will the updated iso tomorrow (sorry, my RW-disk is at home) and tell you on Wednesday additional issues, especially how the kernel behaved. I was able to boot and to use the old iso until I had to choose a NIC on my LX (which has both IDE and SCSI drives). * Please turn IDE-DMA off by default, at least for installs. On my alpha I see tons of scary messages, and trying to use the IDE drives fails (on installed kernels), c.f. #241185 for details. Since for many alphas IDE-support is very poor (hardware-wise), I think keeping it off during installs is wise. Maybe the installer could ask/guess later on, if DMA should be attempted. Or it should always add ide=nodma in /etc/aboot.conf and an installation note should inform the user that (s)he can remove it. * Any NIC I chose results in a printed Segmentation fault. I did not expect it to actually find any NIC, since my old one was doing strange things and a 3c509B I got is not recognized in my alpha (neither Jumpstart (2.2 based), nor 2.4.21-pre1, nor 2.4.26). After the segfault, the hardware detection bar is shown briefly, and I am again at the choosing NIC selection. * Detect NIC-Hardware is not available in german (or switching did not work). I currently do some test installs on my ibook (ppc) as well, where all screens are in german. If you can point me to the proper .po-files, I can translate them. * I see that the list of modules is quite limited. Since no aic7xxx is available on this ISO, I was unable to test if the aic7xxx-fix has gone in. I think aic7xxx should be included (if the fix is available, of course). These missing modules were also seen in the log (by hw-detect). (Update when sending: Was the module left out on purpose?) * Due to my NIC-troubles I tried out Firewire (I got an USB/Firewire card about 1.5 years ago). In 2.4.21 I had troubles using ethernet over firewire, but in 2.4.26 it worked flawlessly. Please consider adding eth1394 (and ohci1394, which needs to be loaded as well) in the NIC-Dialog. After insmodding these modules, the interface behaves exactly like a NIC. As I read, though, only connections via Linux-boxes are supported. This could be noted in the install logs. I think it would be cool having Linux be able to install over Firewire, and given that the support is so trivial to add. :01:05.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 24 Memory at 09006000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K] Memory at 0900 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 * Since, as in my case, no NIC-Driver was able to load (and also none was found automatically, as expected), there should be an option to stop the installation on that screen. Pressing Ctrl-Alt-Del works, of course. Thanks for your efforts getting d-i in shape on alpha Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpMc2O3TNiMR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel-image packages for alpha in need of testing
Hello, On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 10:29:01PM +1000, Craig Small wrote: When I tried to boot RAMDISK: image too big! Freeing initrd memory 14728k freed VFS: Cannot open root drive hda1 at that point it panics because it cannot mount the drive. Any idea why that initrd is 5 times as big as my other initrd? I ran into this when debugging #241185 (which seems closly related to this problem as well), Herbert wrote to me: Can you please find out why it is so big and if appropriate file a new bug report against initrd-tools? Now in the mean time please boot with ramdisk_size=16384 so we can continue with the testing. And no, I did not yet find out why it is so big. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpJfK1LUWM68.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel-image packages for alpha in need of testing
Hello Steve, On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 05:59:42PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: Thanks to Peter De Schrijver, I believe we've finally located the bug that's made 2.4.2x kernel-image packages so horrible to use on such a wide range of alphas. Reverting a Debian-specific patch to the PCI initialization code has resulted in 2.4.26 kernel images that are known to work on three different alphas that showed various problems with ethernet/SCSI drivers when booting the official kernel-images. Could this be a similar issue as the one I debugged with Herbert, i.e. bug #241185? Debian AND stock kernels broke for me at 2.4.21 as well, and Herbert finally came up with some patches which made it recognize my Adaptec (and hence be able to be used). He was not very clear in his final message but said: OK that's good. So reverting my change to core_cia should fix the problem. I think the new maintainers will do that in the next release anyway so this bug can be closed then. I downloaded the iso and will try to run it tonight to see if it boots and recognizes both IDE and SCSI (for the former I needed ide=nodma). Thanks for debugging this. Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpo8ixAQOB6s.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Can't compile from kernel-source-2.4.19
Hello, On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 04:49:43PM +, J. Dub wrote: BTW, I know that one should use 'make boot' instead of 'make bzImage' on alpha. Anyway, is it possible to make somehow compressed kernel? Generic ones are small and compressed. I always (on all my machines, alpha, ppc, i386) use make-kpkg. Then everything is done automatically, and I don't have to worry about the details, especially if you start adding external modules etc. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpCeFgDrXPvP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian Installer - Problems Partitioning
Hello, On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 12:10:33PM -0400, Jim and Kelly Younkin wrote: I am ashamed to admit, but I *still* don't get how I am supposed to run FDISK so I can get to an FDISK prompt. There is nothing to be ashamed of! ~# fdisk /dev/sda /bin/sh: ~fdisk: not found I don't know the PATH on this busybox. Try cd /sbin ./fdisk /dev/sda and then (after partitioning) return to the installer. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpP3gODDy6i8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: AlphaServer 800 Installation
Hello, On Thu, May 27, 2004 at 03:24:20PM -0400, Jim and Kelly Younkin wrote: I am trying to install Debian on my AlphaServer 800 and I cannot get past the kernel load. I am sure I am doing something wrong, can someone help? Are you using the woody boot floppies installer or the new debian installer? When booting from CD (dka400), I have tried using the -flags 0 but I get some kind of paging error. Sometimes I get an aboot menu which gives me some options for booting. choice 'l' lists preconfigured kernels that are selected from my aboot.conf file, and I have been choosing '0' which is as follows... Can you try to copy down this paging error? This seems the real cause of the problem. 0:boot/linux root=/dev/ram initrd=boot/root.bin So here are my questions: 1 - Can I assume that boot/linux is correct since my CD has a directory called boot and it contains a file called linux? Why does my documentation on aboot show 0:3/vmlinux.gz root=/dev/sda3? The documentation is just giving examples from normal operation. Depending on the name of the kernel to boot, this line my be different. But Yes you are right, it looks a little strange. Can you try (at the aboot prompt): b /boot/linux root=/dev/ram initrd=boot/root.bin 2 - How do I know the root setting is correct? Should this point to the CD or to a harddrive? During the initial install a ramdrive is used, so this setting is probably correct. 3 - I assume initrd is some kind of initialization flag, but what does it do and how do I know that boot/root.bin is the right setting? There should be a file /boot/root.bin which contains an INITial RamDrive, i.e. a small container holding lots of drivers and other modules. 4 - I have 256m of memory, and have used the mem=256m, but I still get the kernel paging error. Is this parameter a good idea? This should not be needed. I don't know if it is even considered at all. 5 - Some of my documentation shows load_ramdisk=1, which I have also tried, but doesn't appear to make a difference. What is it's purpose, and should I use it? I think this was used in the past when you actually applied floppy disks. I don't think it is in use today still. Getting started with Linux has been extremely frustrating, I don't know how you all deal with it. If I cannot get this installed I will probably have to go back to M$. Well, the problem is a)that people usually get M$ preinstalled and b)you've (unfortunately) run into a strange install error and c)alpha are different considering booting (though when running they are pretty similar to i386 linux), so there's an extra hurdle here for the newcomer. Please try to post the exact error message about this paging and then we can better help you. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpfsPyV5pATF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sarge install problem
Hello Jonathan, On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 10:45:13AM +1000, Jonathan Kelly wrote: I tried to install Sarge from the cd-mini.iso from 30/04/2004 sized 5742592. I eventually booted it OK, as the machine is uses MILO, so is not straight forward. BTW, is milo not being supported in Sarge? Yes. Since noone stepped up to add support for milo in d-i, only SRM is supported. If milo works, it is by chance :-)). Volunteers for this are, of course, welcome. Unless you cannto switch, I'd strongly suggest SRM though, especially if you are installing afresh. Mmmh, sorry, I just see you have a Ruffian, then of course, SRM is not an option. So, everything goes OK until network config. It detects both my network cards, and onboard DEC 21142/43 and a RTL8139. I select the RTL as DEC is flaky. It fails DHCP and when I set it up manually it is unable to retrieve the Release file. The long on console 4 shows the following error date (none) syslog.warn klogd: eth1: Too much work at interrupt Intr Status=0x0001 dmesg shows eth1: Identified 8139 chip type RTL-8139C and later eth1: link up, 100Mbps, full duplex, lpa 0x45E1 I know the network is OK because I have Woody installed and can boot into that and access the web fine. The machine is PC164ux/bx Ruffian 600MHz arcS bios (yuk) 512M memory DEC 21142/43 onboard network card (flaky) RTL8139 PCI network card Matrox Millenium II graphics card SCSI controller sym53c875 Which kernel are you using in woody? Are you using the RTL8139 module in woody as well? Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp1iaiLTrkIG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dhclient and keyboard problem
Hello, On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 01:12:43PM -0400, sammyg wrote: debian-testing alpha ds10-l ps/2 keyboard and mouse qwerty/us with win keys\ How can I change the keymap? When I press Insert Home End Page Up/Down it just generates ~ I tried dpkg-reconfigure console-common and it didn't fix also tried kbd_mode I don't know why it is not working on your config, but if you really need to do it manually, then look at http://linux.looplab.org/html/ibook.html Section 6. It is for totally different hardware, but the procedure is exactly the same. This is on the console, right? Maybe you can post the output of showkey here (for those keys which do *not* work). Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpVWtqCZ87e6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Alpha PWS 433a and Adaptec AHA-294X Boot Blues
Hello, On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 07:58:26PM +0100, Gary Gale wrote: Believe me when I say I'd love to be able to boot from SRM, but the version of the SRM firmware I have (which is the latest version) doesn't recognise my Adaptec AHA-294X SCSI controller; hence the root cause of the problem. if your only disk in this system hangs off this adapter and the latest SRM does not support it, then the only route I see is to install woody and then dist-upgrade to testing. If this disk already doesn't work, you might even go back further, installing potato, and then dist-upgrading to woody and next to testing. If you try to install only the bare minimum on potato install and only after upgrading to testing do apt-get install whaterver_i_want (or use aptitude etc.) then the impact on the amount to download should be limited. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgprGWiXqj3Wl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: installing Debian on AS 1000A
Hello, On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:26:27PM +0100, Santanu Das wrote: Another question: What type of partition do I need to install Debian on my AlphServer 1000A (4/266)? Currently I've Digital Unix 4.0b running on itcan I install top of that? I *don't* want any duel boot. BSD Disklabels. I am not sure if you can reuse the Digital Unix ones, but I recommend creating them during install. (i.e. deleting the old and recreating the new). Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/
Re: Installing on an LX164 - what's wrong here?
Hello, On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 12:25:01PM -0400, Aprotim Sanyal wrote: I'm trying to put debian on several old lx164 machines we have here at my lab. When I try to install from CD, I go to OS selection Setup, if you have no severe reason, I strongly suggest switching to SRM. My LX runs beautiful with SRM for years now and when you are reinstalling is the best time to switch. Also Debians support for MILO is currently very low (missing manpower). Only thing I currently have (but that's probably independent of boot method) is some problem with newer kernels any my adaptec, but the bug is investigated currently. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpo8JlW2A5LY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Alpha PWS 433a and Adaptec AHA-294X Boot Blues
Hello, On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 06:44:41PM +0100, Gary Gale wrote: The hardware configuration pans out as follows:- Digital Personal Workstation 433a Alpha 21164, 433 MHz AlphaBIOS revision 5.70 DEC RZ1CB 4 Gb hdd Toshiba XM5701TASUN12XCD0997 CD drive WangDAT 3100 DAT drive Adaptec AHA-294X SCSI adaptor Advance Logic ALG 2064i, 1024K RAM So far, so good. However, when I boot the machine, either via the JumpStart CD or via a floppy based linload-MILO boot configuration, almost everytime the boot of the kernel hangs after the following diagnostics ... Woody boot floppies or new Debian Installer? (scsi0) Adaptec AHA-294x UltraSCSI host adaptor found at PCI 1/9/0 (scsi0) Wide Channel, SCSCI ID=7, 16/255 SCBs (scsi0) Cables present (INT-50 YES, INT-68 YES, EXT-68 NO) (scsi0) Downloading sequencer code ... 422 instructions downloaded scsi0: Adaptec AHA 274x/284x/294x (EISA/VLB/PCI-Fast SCSI) 5.1.31/3.2.4 Adaptec AHA-294X Ultra SCSI host adaptor scsi: 1 host. and there we hang. Note that I say this almost always happens as I did manage to get linload.exe and MILO installed and the JumpStart CD partitioned the drive. Please have a look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=241185 Though they might not be related and only happend with kernels 2.4.20, so this might be different from your problem. If you use the Debian Installer, then this is understandable, as jumpstart uses a way older kernel. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp25viuvOZ3J.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian on Alpha Server 1000A
Hello, On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 11:30:01AM +0100, Santanu Das wrote: I'm completely a new bee, in fact, this is my very first day with Debian Alpha System. Can any one provide me a link where I can download Debian Alpha Linux (or whatever it called) from? Any additional suggestions are much appreciated. http://www.debian.org/ports/alpha/ Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp9K7qX3s8TW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hi, I've installed woody on my Alphaserver, but the packages on it are quite old so I was looking for something a little more up to date, even if it's not that stable, that's ok. Going to the d
Hello, On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 05:20:40PM +0200, Alexandre Fayolle wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 12:12:56AM +1000, Michael Mansour wrote: Hi, I've installed woody on my Alphaserver, but the packages on it are quite old so I was looking for something a little more up to date, even if it's not that stable, that's ok. ~~~ Don't dowload any iso, unless the machine you want to upgrade has no network access. Instead, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and set it to use the distribution you want. For instance, you could add the following line: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free Then, as root, first run apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade, and finally apt-get moo and enjoy the power of debian. :-) There is stable, seldom released, but *very* stable. Security support available. There is testing, solid, very seldom breakages, quite current. No security support. Automatically generated from unstable (see below). There is unstable. Almost everything new goes in here, so if you use unstable, you might experience suprises once in a while, and please report bugs if things don't work. Recommended if you want to help develop Debian. Packages proven ok are automatically advanced to testing. Known security problems usually cause a prompt upload into unstable (and, if everything goes well, 10 days later into testing). Experimental. Don't use it unless you know what it is and the consequences. There are also code names. Sid==Unstable. And then every stable release gets a code name as well. The current one is woody, the next one will be sarge. At some point in time testing will be frozen and called sarge. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpX90tbp9wBj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hi, I've installed woody on my Alphaserver, but the packages on it are quite old so I was looking for something a little more up to date, even if it's not that stable, that's ok. Going to the d
Hello, On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 03:13:03AM -0700, Phil Carmody wrote: --- Helge Kreutzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is testing, solid, very seldom breakages, quite current. No security support. What do you mean by no security support? Simply that, because this is an actively developed configuration, there's no special support for security issues, as that's already covered by the standard development cycle that all packages have? If in package A a security issue is found, the security team will release a security update for stable. The package maintainer will upload a new version to unstable. Now, even if the priority is set to high, it takes a few days to propagate to testing -- provided no new RC bugs are found in the packages or its dependencies. As an example, kde3 hit testing not to long ago. So, testing users did not get the security update for kde2 (well, I did not check, maybe the security update for stable worked in this case), but neither got a new version since it had not hit testing. This is not against KDE, just to illustrate the case at hand. Generally though, it only takes a few days for security updates to propagate, and a cautios admin could use pinning to selectivly pull in security related issues even if they have not yet hit testing. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpB9Aa5WRjyP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Recommendation for kernel/compiler versions on CS20?
Hello, On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 01:02:21PM -0400, Cernese, Dan wrote: I was just given a couple DS20L(CS20), but I cannot seem to get any version of the kernel to compile that doesn't panic trying to mount the root fs. For now, I'm running a pre-packaged 2.2.20-generic (20021219) 3.0r1 'woody', and gcc 2.95.4. I've tried to build (2.2.20, 2.2.22) without SMP to avoid what I've seen about SMP issues, but no luck. We never got to compile an SMP kernel with gcc 2.9x, we have/had to use gcc 3.x. UP kernels, though, worked. Maybe it is a good idea set up a chroot with e.g. a minimal testing environment and compile a kernel (e.g. a 2.4.x-kernel) there. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp6n1vFYoQaO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: messed up kernel
Hello, On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 11:00:26PM +0100, Conny Enström wrote: I compiled a new kernel on my Alpha Debian machine But the sound module turned out to be wrong, now it freezes during boot when the sound card is detected. Can I remove or bypass that section so i can get in and re-compile a new kernel? if you used the alpha tools (i.e. make-kpkg and then installed with dpkg -i) then the old kernel is still available. I assume you use SRM, then you simply do b dqa0 -fl i replace dq0 with your boot drive. Next do l to list all kernels available to you. There should be an entry starting with 1 (or even more). Simply hit 1 now and back you boot into your old kernel. You can also list your file system there, in case you do not have an explicit entry and then manually type in the boot command for your old kernel (take the current one as an example). Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpPpl1qpSc41.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Alpha PC164
Hello, On Tue, Apr 13, 2004 at 08:16:39PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: On Tue, Apr 13, 2004 at 05:21:30PM -0700, Greg wrote: distro I could get up and running without kernel panic at best was DEBIAN's distro. It was/is a lot of fun using and learning Debian. My question is, does any one else on this list have a PC164 running anything other than Debian ? If so was it very painful ? I'm not talented enough to rewrite a I have a PC164LX, a similar machine, running Debian. I have not used As far as I now they are not so similar, but probably Jay can clarify this. any other operating system on it, save Windows NT for a brief spell (that is definately nothing to be excited about). apt-get is unique to Debian and the Debian-derived distributions. Again no. Though I really like apt-get, you can use it on RPM based distros as well, e.g. Conectivia IMHO includes it, and both PLD and RedHat can be used with apt-get, though they both offer other tools (poldek and yum) as well. In general, the differences between Debian and other distros will also apply in the general case -- that is, Debian vs. RedHat on the PC will have similar differences as you see here. PC have no distinct models (as Jensen, LX, Rawhide,XP1000) which is the classifying factor in the alpha world; there you rather look at components (which chipset, ...). Of course, since alphas can be expanded, similar issues araise there as well. Debian seems to be the operating system that supports the widest range of Alpha hardware, since it can boot from both MILO and aboot. This is something that, AFAIK, the neither the BSDs nor Gentoo have mastered. RedHat long ago dropped Alpha support. I don't know if Slackware really But Compaq still maintains a branch which was made from RedHat; given that there was recently some effort by RedHat employees to get Fedora running on alpha, I would not call it dead. It just has an uncertain future. So for playing, I would not rule it out. supports Alpha; I'd be inclined to think that Debian's support is better there as well. I thought the Slackware port was stopped? But I may be wrong here. Finally I really like Debian. But *please* before you praise it realize what the current status of the competition is. Thanks. Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpptTgrEMFzO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Alpha PC164
Hello, On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 08:50:40AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: Yes, I'm aware that apt-rpm exists, but usually when one speaks of apt-get, one is implicitly referring to the Debian packaging system and the dpkg components as well. The major RPM players (RH, SuSE) do not, AFAIK, ship any version of apt-get with their systems. Yes, but people getting more involved sooner or later will try out some automatic update method. Some like SUSE's version, some like yum, but others will switch to apt-get. No problem. In general, the differences between Debian and other distros will also apply in the general case -- that is, Debian vs. RedHat on the PC will have similar differences as you see here. PC have no distinct models (as Jensen, LX, Rawhide,XP1000) which is the classifying factor in the alpha world; there you rather look at components (which chipset, ...). Of course, since alphas can be expanded, similar issues araise there as well. Not really. Once the machine is booted, it's all pretty much the same. I have one Alpha, two PowerPC machines, an Athlon64, and a Pentium M laptop. Once installed and booted, there's no perceptible difference. I have KDE on all of the above; it runs fine. I use JFS or Reiser all over. No problems there either. They all support PCI (save the laptops of course), so I can mix and match expansion cards. And this is really the whole point of a portable system anyway. Yes, exactly the point. The original poster wrote: distro I could get up and running without kernel panic at best was DEBIAN's distro. Of course, looking at userland (KDE, shell) I could equally well sit on a FreeBSD machine, so really the tools are only visisble to the sysadmin and each ported OS will strive (and usually suceed) to make the tools as generic as possible, i.e. hiding hardware problems. And when people talk about RedHat vs. Debian they often (but not always) compare the tools. Then platform really doesn't matter. This is actually one reason for me to use Debian, because it supports so many platforms. Btw. some (many?) laptops use PCI internally, they just don't tell you (and no slot to expand in). Debian seems to be the operating system that supports the widest range of Alpha hardware, since it can boot from both MILO and aboot. This is something that, AFAIK, the neither the BSDs nor Gentoo have mastered. RedHat long ago dropped Alpha support. I don't know if Slackware really But Compaq still maintains a branch which was made from RedHat; given Are you sure about that? They actually maintain it? Last time I was playing around on the old DEC FTP site, little had been touched since 1999 or so. Please search AXP-Lists for pointers, the download URLS have been posted there many times and security updates are posted regularly. I don't know if you can buy support if you need to. that there was recently some effort by RedHat employees to get Fedora running on alpha, I would not call it dead. It just has an uncertain future. So for playing, I would not rule it out. No, it is dead now. They discontinued Alpha support some *years* back. To be precise, security support ran out last year March for RedHat linux proper. But then, the Compaq supported product still exists. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpeCNPPPwHXW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Monitoring Files
Hello, On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 05:20:08PM -0400, Tyson Whitehead wrote: Is anyone else having problems with all the KDE apps crashing (last several unstable releases) whenever a file is changed in a directory they are monitoring (open file dialogue, save file dialogue, etc). (i.e. konqueor crashes if you create a file in the directory it is looking at, kmail crashes when you ask it to save an attachement to a folder, kword crashes when you create a file in a directory the open file dialogue is looking at, etc, etc). I experience them same problem with konquerer, but I thought it was one of those compile with -mieee-Problems which should be gone soon as gcc now defaults to -mieee on alpha. I only use konqueror (and then mainly as file manager), but it is very anoying to see konqueror vanish in the back when I only did some work in an xterm (which involved moving some files, e.g.). If you are able to trace the problem, please file a bug. If there is anything I can help, please tell me what I should do. I really love to have a stable konqueror again[1]! Greetings Helge [1] In woody konqueror was stable, altough it did home some other quirks. -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpJRFm3bARyL.pgp Description: PGP signature
kernel-source-2.4.25: Booting failure with adaptec on alpha (LX) (regression)
Package: kernel-source-2.4.25 Severity: important This kernel (and 2.4.22) fails to boot while 2.4.21-pre1 boots and works happily. The last lines (written off the screen by hand, dots indicate skipping) are scsi0: Adaptec ... Rev. 6.2.36 Adaptec 2940 Ultra ... aic7880 Ultra Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7,16,253 SCBS scsi0: PCI error Interrupt at reqaddr: 0x1aa scsi0: Received a Master Abort The system pauses several seconds (10?) on the blank line. My current, working kernel has Rev. 6.2.8. lspci -vv says about my adaptec: 00:05.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW/D / AIC-7881U Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- Latency: 32 (2000ns min, 2000ns max), Cache Line Size: 0x08 (32 bytes) Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 18 Region 0: I/O ports at 8000 [size=256] Region 1: Memory at 0914 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=4K] Expansion ROM at 0912 [disabled] [size=64K] Excerpt of my .config: CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y CONFIG_SD_EXTRA_DEVS=40 CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST=m # CONFIG_CHR_DEV_OSST is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=m CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR_VENDOR=y CONFIG_SR_EXTRA_DEVS=2 # CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SCH is not set CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=m ... CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX=y CONFIG_AIC7XXX_CMDS_PER_DEVICE=253 CONFIG_AIC7XXX_RESET_DELAY_MS=15000 # CONFIG_AIC7XXX_PROBE_EISA_VL is not set # CONFIG_AIC7XXX_BUILD_FIRMWARE is not set CONFIG_AIC7XXX_DEBUG_ENABLE=y CONFIG_AIC7XXX_DEBUG_MASK=0 CONFIG_AIC7XXX_REG_PRETTY_PRINT=y ... CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX_2=m CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX_DMA_ADDRESSING_MODE=1 CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX_DEFAULT_TAGS=16 CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX_MAX_TAGS=64 In dmesg I see on succesfull boot with 2.4.21-pre1: SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00 scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 6.2.8 Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter aic7880: Ultra Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs blk: queue fc0027fcbcb0, no I/O memory limit Vendor: IBM Model: DCAS-34330W Rev: S65A Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 blk: queue fc0027f520d0, no I/O memory limit (scsi0:A:0): 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) Vendor: IBM Model: DCHS04U Rev: 6464 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 blk: queue fc0027f522d0, no I/O memory limit (scsi0:A:1): 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) Vendor: IBM OEM Model: DCHS09U Rev: 6363 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 blk: queue fc0027f524d0, no I/O memory limit (scsi0:A:2): 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) scsi0:A:0:0: Tagged Queuing enabled. Depth 253 scsi0:A:1:0: Tagged Queuing enabled. Depth 253 scsi0:A:2:0: Tagged Queuing enabled. Depth 253 Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 Attached scsi disk sdc at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0 SCSI device sda: 8467200 512-byte hdwr sectors (4335 MB) sda: sda1 sda3 SCSI device sdb: 8813870 512-byte hdwr sectors (4513 MB) sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3 SCSI device sdc: 17796077 512-byte hdwr sectors (9112 MB) sdc: sdc1 sdc3 This is an 20164 based LX with 500 Mhz. I did not try other kernels between 2.4.21-pre1 and 2.4.25 except 2.4.22, which dies with the same symptoms. If you need more/other information, please tell me which. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (990, 'testing') Architecture: alpha Kernel: Linux 2.4.21-pre1 Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpvf6AY308Pk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 164LX, Scsi DIsk, and IDE CDROM Help?
Hello, On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 08:29:22PM -0500, bob wrote: cavan:/etc# mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom mount: error while guessing filesystem type mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only /dev/cdrom: Read-only file system Did you try specifying -t iso9660 ? cavan:/proc/ide# ls -l total 0 -r--r--r--1 root root0 Mar 2 20:25 drivers lrwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Mar 2 20:25 hda - ide0/hda dr-xr-xr-x3 root root0 Mar 2 20:25 ide0 cavan:/proc/ide# cavan:/proc/ide# cd ide0 cavan:/proc/ide/ide0# ls channel config hda mate model cavan:/proc/ide/ide0# ls -l total 0 -r--r--r--1 root root0 Mar 2 20:26 channel -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Mar 2 20:26 config dr-xr-xr-x2 root root0 Mar 2 20:26 hda -r--r--r--1 root root0 Mar 2 20:26 mate -r--r--r--1 root root0 Mar 2 20:26 model cavan:/proc/ide/ide0# cd hda cavan:/proc/ide/ide0/hda# ls capacity driver identify media model settings cavan:/proc/ide/ide0/hda# ls -l total 0 -r--r--r--1 root root0 Mar 2 20:26 capacity -r--r--r--1 root root0 Mar 2 20:26 driver -r1 root root0 Mar 2 20:26 identify -r--r--r--1 root root0 Mar 2 20:26 media -r--r--r--1 root root0 Mar 2 20:26 model -rw---1 root root0 Mar 2 20:26 settings cavan:/proc/ide/ide0/hda# So I assume you have one cdrom, but just cat those files (i.e. driver, model). Since I still don't know when you last saw your drive it is difficult to help. According to your transcript it is not in /etc/fstab. But please try the above mounting command. And please I do read the list, no need to CC: me seperatly. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp6zKB9L3xSu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 164LX, Scsi DIsk, and IDE CDROM Help?
Hello, On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 08:44:50PM -0500, bob wrote: I have just put 3.0r2 on a 164lx. I used an ide cdrom to load the beast but now find I am unable to see the ide cdrom drive properly. I don't understand this. Have you looked at /proc/ide? At which time does your CD-ROM vanish, during installs, or after? Can you elaborate a little more verbose on the symptoms and your attempts? Do you use the kernel shipped with Debian or a home grewn one? Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpoFClOQGrbI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Dbian Linux (woody) for AXP can't boot on DS15
Hello, On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 06:35:23AM -0500, mel kravitz wrote: aboot is 0.9b latest available from: https://sourceforge.net/projects/aboot/ I recommend using the Debian packet[1] if at all possible (even if you install it by hand) since I added additional patches for some high end machines so maybe your DS15 is also affected. Those patches are only in CVS head, not in the latest released version. Please see the SRM-FAQ on www.alphalinux.org (new version with updated links to appear soon) for details regarding usage of aboot. Once installed proper man pages are available also. If this information is not sufficient, feel free to ask here so we can add the answers to later revisions of the document(s); also if you cannot get your machine to boot (this was the problem?) with the latest version of aboot, then please file a bug either with Debian or on sourceforge. Greetings Helge [1] Since those patches are also part of the latest RedHat version you might try using the Compaq released version of RedHat to boot your system and write aboot and then proceed with the installation of Debian, skipping the Install Bootloader step. Also AFAIK d-i can install woody as well, so giving d-i a shot (and if it does not work, which might be the case) writing a good bug report would be great also. -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpchsfWFgfao.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian Linux (woody) for AXP can't boot on a DS15
Hello, On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 04:56:03PM -0500, mel kravitz wrote: I moved a disk with debian unstable running kernel 2.4.24 as well as kernel 2.6.2 capable , built on a DS10. Both kernels fail to boot on the DS15. 'no valid boot block message...' Both kernels boot fine on the DS10. -Mel Which aboot version? Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpAS8pk25L8b.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Can't boot a kernel under SRM
Hello, On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 12:06:05AM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: I got my SRM booting problem fixed (turned out I needed to set os_type). My next problem is that neither IDE nor SCSI works on my LX164 system when booted from SRM. On the IDE side, I am getting a lot of irq timeout errors, and sometimes I get timeout waiting for DMA. The system might eventually boot, or it might not. The SCSI problems depend on which kernel version I try. In 2.6, it locks hard. In 2.4.22 from the business card Debian-installer test image, I get: CACHE TEST FAILED: script execution failed start=53c2ae64, pc=53c2ae64, end=5ec2a90 CACHE INCORRECTLY CONFIGURED I have a Symbios 53c875 card. Depending on your hardware config, you may need to back down to 2.4.20 or 2.4.19 (I forget which) to get something bootable. I've been told, and have realized now that I can confirm, that later 2.4-series kernels have trouble talking across PCI bridges on alphas. I would hope someone's working on fixing this, but I know that neither 2.4.22 nor 2.4.23 can handle my ethernet/scsi card (an integrated tulip/qlogicisp device, no idea if it has a proper name :). Well, I have 2.4.21-preX (I don't know off hand which) running fine on my LX, a 2.4.23 however dies in detecting the adaptec driver (which worked fine before). IDE looks to work fine however, after I disabled Use DMA by default if available. I did not yet have time to figure out what exactly happened. I have the exact error message at home so I cannot reproduce it right now. This is on an LX. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpHs8G029KpW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Can't boot a kernel under SRM
Hello John, On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 08:10:00AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: Anyway, I will write up a mini-HOWTO on this subject once I've got a working system :-) Can you send this one to me? I am currently updating the SRM-Howto, so it would fit in nicly there. Thanks Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpP36NbXX1TU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Compaq-HP ES45 woody install
Hello, On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:35:50PM -0500, Stefano Curtarolo, Ph.D. wrote: has somebody ever had success installing woody or sid in an ES45 (4x21264x1.25GHz)?? snip potato+ES45 = black screen woody+ES45 = black screen unstable(temp distribution)+ES45 = black screen redhat+ES45 = OK but I dont want RH Therefore I`ll stick with Tru64 until I solve this problem. snip I am currently working on getting aboot more up to date. I added a patch from RedHat (which is now in CVS head of aboot as well) which should allow booting on Wildfire. Currently an NMU is prepared which should be out in a few days (or I can provide you with the respective packages myself). If it still does not work, please file a bug against aboot so I can start working this out together with the upstream aboot maintainer. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpzxqMxDkztK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: radeon dri problems
Hello, On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 11:42:07PM -0500, Tom Vier wrote: On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 04:04:57PM -0600, Kelledin wrote: They're Linux kernel modules, included with the XFree86 source (under xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/). The DRI modules included with the stock Linux kernel are too old to be usable with up-to-date XFree86 versions, even if they do compile. testing's xfree86 doesn't build properly. :/ hmm, it's the same version i have installed now, though. maybe there's the missing build dependency. Well, if you are for DRI, then you can use http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-trunk-unstable/ They build fine on my testing box (that's where the alpha.deb come from). The modules are in a seperate deb, which you can install and then compile with make-kpkg modules (check the exact syntax from the man page). Unfortunately the page is currently offline, so if you are interested I can provide you the *deb for download, contact me off-list if you are interested. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpOMNvXgTIr6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OpenOffice
Hello, On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 10:56:22PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 01:38:29AM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:32:51 -0600 JG == John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JG JG I observe that openoffice.org-bin does not exist for Alpha. Is there JG any particular reason for this? If so, does anybody know what it is? OpenOffice.org builds now on x86 and ppc only. Building it on 64 bit architecture without java is kind of trial. However, it doesn't seem to build-depend on any sort of Java... plus, gij does work on Alpha. Uncle Georg build it a while ago, check the archives for RedHat's axp-list for details. It would be great if OpenOffice on alpha could become official. I don't know the current status of the Debian-Open-Office-Team regarding the alpha plattform though. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpK4377wftAy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: new kernel on DS20
Hello, On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 09:53:58PM -0200, Robson Francisco de Souza wrote: Another doubt: can I use GCC 3.0 to compile a 2.4.23 SMP kernel? I heard of people having troubles when trying to use GCC 3.0, but this is the only 3.x version available for woody. Also, has anyone tried the new 2.6 kernel? As this seems to be a beta version, I'm not sure its ready for production systems... Thanks for the replies. we installed a changeroot, upgraded that to latest sid and built with latest gcc (3.3.2 IIRC) in unstable. The kernel (on a rawhide) works fine now except that it cannot load modules. Regarding memory I havn't checked since our rawhide does not have that much. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpuhTmvyig49.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sarge install
Hello, On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 08:41:05AM +0100, Gregor Stößer wrote: I have the same problems on my XP1000 with the recent netinst-iso. Aboot loads the ramdisk, but after uncompression it fails to mount the root file system. Any clues how to fix this? Regards when putting up a machine here with Debian stable we decided to take the chance and try the new installer beforehand, but ended up in exact the same problem. We played a little, but could not proceed further. My collegue has send in an installation report but I don't know if he has received any answer. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpRiNGrrcZeN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Alpha FAQ pages in debian-www cvs
Hello, On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 04:59:47PM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: Hi. In 1999 there were some faq pages committed to the webwml cvs repository of the Debian webpages[0] (Commit message: Adding various FAQs from www.alphalinux.org...will link shortly.) They seem not to get installed and are not linked anywhere. Can they be removed from cvs? actually I was considering getting various FAQs included as part of my work on the aboot-packages; though I did not think about getting them on the web pages. Can you point me where those pages you mention are (I already have the web pages form CVS) and I'll have a look. Btw. I was not the person doing the checking, but before removing I'd like to have a look (and possibly revive it). Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpKxEDEkjR92.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: depmod: Unhandled relocation of type 10 for .text
Hello, On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 02:34:57PM -0600, Nathan Poznick wrote: Thus spake Juhana Paavola: What's going on ? Modules don't load, insmod just shows same unhandled errors. Kernel source is 2.4.19 from kernel.org. Gcc is 3.2.3,2.95.4 and 3.3.2 (all compiles but gives same error). I think this is a binutils bug - check bugs.d.o, but I'm fairly sure this was reported several times. I got around it by just building the kernel without any modules. A new binutils went into unstable yesterday, and it had some patches for alpha, so you might want to try it out and see if it fixes your problem. We just posted a (partial) solution (a few mails above this one). It consists of the patch http://bugme.osdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367 But now all modules show unresolved symbols, so we probably have to stick to a staitic kernel as well. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpLSzUMerMwI.pgp Description: PGP signature
