Re: Netscape crashing [Fwd: Re: Re: Browser for Multia]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sites that crash Netscape 4.78 on my Alphas. www.zend.com (uses PHP) www.oceanatlas.org (uses JSP) www.ebay.com (uses static HTML) www.c-span.org Going to these and others results in an instant Netscape crash for me. The source is supposed to available at mozilla.org but I only see Mozilla itself there, not Commuicator. My build of Mozilla 2.6 took up 2 Gig of disk space (wow). It doesn't crash going to those sites, but it is incredibly slow, 50 sec. just to come up on the XP1000. Is the Netscape really open. Netscape is an antiquated, buggy, spec-nonconforming, unreliable piece of shit. The source of the Netscape browser evolved into the Mozilla project. Don't use Netscape 4.x unless you absolutely have to. These days web designers use features (such as CSS) that Netscape simply does not implement properly. Fixing these bugs is such a large undertaking that the Netscape team abandoned the original 4.x source and started from scratch, a project now known as Mozilla. There are many open browsers available in the debian/alpha binary archive, such as mozilla, konqueror, galeon, epiphany-browser, and mozilla-firebird. They're already compiled in the archive, you shouldn't need to compile it yourself. Cheers, Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own governors, must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives. A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy or perhaps both. - James Madison pgpPejXh3fVwn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Netscape crashing [Fwd: Re: Re: Browser for Multia]
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 18:54, Bob McElrath wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Netscape is an antiquated, buggy, spec-nonconforming, unreliable piece of shit. The source of the Netscape browser evolved into the Mozilla project. Don't use Netscape 4.x unless you absolutely have to. These days web designers use features (such as CSS) that Netscape simply does not implement properly. Fixing these bugs is such a large undertaking that the Netscape team abandoned the original 4.x source and started from scratch, a project now known as Mozilla. There are many open browsers available in the debian/alpha binary archive, such as mozilla, konqueror, galeon, epiphany-browser, and mozilla-firebird. They're already compiled in the archive, you shouldn't need to compile it yourself. And none of them work in a decent manner. It seems that JavaScript doesn't work either with konqueror 3.x, nor with mozilla 1.0.x, nor with mozilla 1.4.x, nor with self compiled mozillas. I still don't know what should I do on the alpha in order to book a flight ticket at www.aua.com. Except for calling them. Which is what I finally did. :) Cheers. Ionut
Netscape crashing [Fwd: Re: Re: Browser for Multia]
Sites that crash Netscape 4.78 on my Alphas. www.zend.com (uses PHP) www.oceanatlas.org (uses JSP) www.ebay.com (uses static HTML) www.c-span.org Going to these and others results in an instant Netscape crash for me. The source is supposed to available at mozilla.org but I only see Mozilla itself there, not Commuicator. My build of Mozilla 2.6 took up 2 Gig of disk space (wow). It doesn't crash going to those sites, but it is incredibly slow, 50 sec. just to come up on the XP1000. Is the Netscape really open. Sigh, Martin Original Message Subject: Re: Re: Browser for Multia Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:35:10 -0600 (CST) Resent-From: debian-alpha@lists.debian.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:18:07 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: debian-alpha@lists.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 16.03.03 22:12:39: Go to: http://wp.netscape.com/download/archive/client_archive47x.html Download, then un-tar/gzip, then read README.install which tells you to execute the ns-install script. I use it 99% of the time. But more and more now I find web-pages that load completely empty, though still with the Document: Done. message, and worse: sites that cause Netscape to crash. (Ex: http://www.zend.com) It may be a java thing. For those sites I bring up mozilla or another. ---Martin communicator-v478.alpha-dec-osf4.0 Thanks a lot, Martin. I'll give it a shot. Marc