Re: Netscape crashing [Fwd: Re: Re: Browser for Multia]

2003-09-11 Thread Bob McElrath
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 Sites that crash Netscape 4.78 on my Alphas.
 
 www.zend.com (uses PHP)
 www.oceanatlas.org (uses JSP)
 www.ebay.com (uses static HTML)
 www.c-span.org
 
 Going to these and others results in an instant Netscape crash for me.
 The source is supposed to available at mozilla.org but I only see Mozilla
 itself there, not Commuicator.  My build of Mozilla 2.6 took up 2 Gig
 of disk space (wow).  It doesn't crash going to those sites, but it is
 incredibly slow, 50 sec. just to come up on the XP1000.  Is the Netscape
 really open.

Netscape is an antiquated, buggy, spec-nonconforming, unreliable piece
of shit.  The source of the Netscape browser evolved into the Mozilla
project.  Don't use Netscape 4.x unless you absolutely have to.

These days web designers use features (such as CSS) that Netscape simply
does not implement properly.  Fixing these bugs is such a large
undertaking that the Netscape team abandoned the original 4.x source and
started from scratch, a project now known as Mozilla.

There are many open browsers available in the debian/alpha binary archive,
such as mozilla, konqueror, galeon, epiphany-browser, and
mozilla-firebird.  They're already compiled in the archive, you
shouldn't need to compile it yourself.

Cheers,
Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics]

Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to
be their own governors, must arm themselves with the power knowledge
gives. A popular government without popular information or the means
of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy or
perhaps both.
- James Madison


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Re: Netscape crashing [Fwd: Re: Re: Browser for Multia]

2003-09-11 Thread Ionut Georgescu


On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 18:54, Bob McElrath wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Netscape is an antiquated, buggy, spec-nonconforming, unreliable piece
 of shit.  The source of the Netscape browser evolved into the Mozilla
 project.  Don't use Netscape 4.x unless you absolutely have to.
 
 These days web designers use features (such as CSS) that Netscape simply
 does not implement properly.  Fixing these bugs is such a large
 undertaking that the Netscape team abandoned the original 4.x source and
 started from scratch, a project now known as Mozilla.
 
 There are many open browsers available in the debian/alpha binary archive,
 such as mozilla, konqueror, galeon, epiphany-browser, and
 mozilla-firebird.  They're already compiled in the archive, you
 shouldn't need to compile it yourself.
 

And none of them work in a decent manner. It seems that JavaScript
doesn't work either with konqueror 3.x, nor with mozilla 1.0.x, nor with
mozilla 1.4.x, nor with self compiled mozillas. I still don't know what
should I do on the alpha in order to book a flight ticket at
www.aua.com. Except for calling them. Which is what I finally did. :)

Cheers.
Ionut




Netscape crashing [Fwd: Re: Re: Browser for Multia]

2003-09-10 Thread mcompengr

Sites that crash Netscape 4.78 on my Alphas.

www.zend.com (uses PHP)
www.oceanatlas.org (uses JSP)
www.ebay.com (uses static HTML)
www.c-span.org

Going to these and others results in an instant Netscape crash for me.
The source is supposed to available at mozilla.org but I only see Mozilla
itself there, not Commuicator.  My build of Mozilla 2.6 took up 2 Gig
of disk space (wow).  It doesn't crash going to those sites, but it is
incredibly slow, 50 sec. just to come up on the XP1000.  Is the Netscape
really open.

Sigh,
Martin


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Re: Browser for Multia
Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:35:10 -0600 (CST)
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:18:07 +0100
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 16.03.03 22:12:39:
 
 
 Go to:
 http://wp.netscape.com/download/archive/client_archive47x.html
 
 Download, then un-tar/gzip, then read README.install which tells
 you to execute the ns-install script.  I use it 99% of the time.
 But more and more now I find web-pages that load completely empty,
 though still with the Document: Done. message, and worse: sites
 that cause Netscape to crash.  (Ex: http://www.zend.com)  It may
 be a java thing.  For those sites I bring up mozilla or another.
 
 ---Martin
 
 communicator-v478.alpha-dec-osf4.0


Thanks a lot, Martin. I'll give it a shot.

Marc