Re: Helix Player
If necessity is the mother of invention, then MPlayer killed her as far as moving forward with getting Helex Player working on the Alpha. Didn't realize MPlayer could handle the streaming audio formats in which I'm interested. For anyone that cares (probably no one based on the amount of feedback received to date), the current MPlayer source builds just fine on Alpha with gcc-3.4.6. Support for building a .deb package is included. Still have the issue of getting the ALSA snd-es18xx driver working, but OSS is allowing me to get by for now. -- --- Bob Tracy WTO + WIPO = DMCA? http://www.anti-dmca.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Helix Player
What binary codecs do you mean ? I tought these http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html#codecs were only for x86. Bob, personally I do care that mplayer runs fine on my alpha :) Manu Helge Kreutzmann a écrit : Hello, On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 08:57:42AM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: For anyone that cares (probably no one based on the amount of feedback received to date), the current MPlayer source builds just fine on Alpha with gcc-3.4.6. Support for building a .deb package is included. I used mplayer for several years already on alpha. Build fine, even used the few binary codecs available. Greetings Helge -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Helix Player
Emmanuel Kasper wrote: What binary codecs do you mean ? I tought these http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html#codecs were only for x86. At the above URL you'll find two http locations for other binary codec packages where there are a number of packages for non-x86. The only codec package available for Alpha at the present time is RealPlayer 8. -- --- Bob Tracy WTO + WIPO = DMCA? http://www.anti-dmca.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Helix Player
Recently I've been wondering about the feasibility of producing a working Helix Player port for the Alpha. Falk Hueffner suggested I should have a look at MPlayer. What I've discovered isn't promising. There are no Debian packages, and probably won't be due to both the non-free nature of several needed components and the question of software patents. Regardless of the politics, the bottom line is that any useful (non-trivial) media player is going to have to have Alpha-specific codecs available. The MPlayer website has RealPlayer8 codecs available for the Alpha, but everything looks pretty x86-centric otherwise. So... As things stand today I can almost build hxplay-1.0.7, but the work left to do is non-trivial. Before moving forward with this, I wouldn't mind a few comments from those who have gone before: will the finished product be able to do anything useful? I haven't approached the Helix Community yet about codecs for Alpha, but that would seem to be a necessary step. Alternatively, does anyone have a media player for the Alpha that can handle streaming audio in at least one of the semi-modern formats (RealAudio, Windows Media Audio)? I'm not worried about video at this stage. -- --- Bob Tracy Beware the fire-and-forget weapon that [EMAIL PROTECTED]forgets who fired it. --Bill Kennedy --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Helix Player
Falk Hueffner wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tracy) writes: Anyone working on this? Version 1.0.4 might be doable if the dependencies on the Tru64 native compiler (ccc) could be eliminated. Specifically, it looks like common/include/atomicbase.h needs to have a #elif defined (__alpha) defined (__GNUC__) section written to be used instead of the existing #elif defined (__alpha) code. I wrote a patch that does just that (see bug #337867). However, I never really tested it and I think there were some other problems... Is there anything that Helix Player can play that mplayer cannot? I thought not, which is why I didn't follow this anymore... Can mplayer handle streaming audio (Internet radio) these days? Didn't realize mplayer had reached that level of capabilities. Great news if true. I've needed to give mplayer a long overdue look anyway. Even in its infancy it looked promising. Thanks for the steer! By the way, the correct way to fix this would be to rip out all of the architecture-specific cruft in atomicbase.h and use gcc atomic builtins, which are present from 4.1 on. Did not know about atomic builtins in 4.1 and later, but I discovered asm/atomic.h from the linux-kernel-headers package when I was looking for something to borrow for use in Helix Player. The asm code there is definitely a kindred spirit to the Tru64 code in the Helix Player atomicbase.h file. -- --- Bob Tracy WTO + WIPO = DMCA? http://www.anti-dmca.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Helix Player
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tracy) writes: Anyone working on this? Version 1.0.4 might be doable if the dependencies on the Tru64 native compiler (ccc) could be eliminated. Specifically, it looks like common/include/atomicbase.h needs to have a #elif defined (__alpha) defined (__GNUC__) section written to be used instead of the existing #elif defined (__alpha) code. I wrote a patch that does just that (see bug #337867). However, I never really tested it and I think there were some other problems... Is there anything that Helix Player can play that mplayer cannot? I thought not, which is why I didn't follow this anymore... By the way, the correct way to fix this would be to rip out all of the architecture-specific cruft in atomicbase.h and use gcc atomic builtins, which are present from 4.1 on. -- Falk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
