Re: em86
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 10:29:59AM -0500, Thomas Evans wrote: > So, is it just the case that the x86 interpreter needs to be rebuilt > with a newer glibc? Well, without having the source, it's hard to say whether it's "just" the case that it needs a rebuild :-) And it looks like I toasted my directory from the last time I tried to get it working, but according to my outbox, after getting the public bits of em86 to build from source against glibc 2.3 the binary segfaulted somewhere inside the FX!32 bits. It may be that a recompile is all that's needed for this part; who knows? > While at DEC I had been partially responsible for that component on > Linux/Alpha. > The last round, we tried to make that component open source, without luck. > I had tried to find out what needed to be done to make it work with newer > distros - in any case, I might be able to talk to some people to see > able about > getting a newer component built at the very least - just tell me what > needs to be done. If there's actually a chance of this happening, I could re-do the work to get em86 building with glibc 2.3 and post a patch; then it'd still be up to someone with access to the FX!32 source to find out why it's segfaulting and fix that part. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: em86
Nipper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Out of curiousity, does qemu run on Alpha? This would also provide > an x86 emulation environment. It used to almost work a while ago, but nontrivial programs would frequently crash and nobody debugged it. By now, it has probably also bitrot somewhat. -- Falk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: em86
On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 04:51 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 02:31:43PM +0200, Pekka H wrote: > > > I googled and found similar problems that I have, but no solution. > > > Richard says > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2002/05/msg00049.html > > > "I did read though that EM86 doesnt work with new versions of glibc" > > > So my question is what version of glibc hould work and is there any else > > solution to get em86 work? > > Nope, the only way to get em86 working is to run it on and old system. > IIRC it has issues not just with new glibc, but also with new kernels as > well (due to sufficiently old glibcs not running right on modern > kernels...). > > Fixing this for newer systems with a rebuild is not possible because some of > the issues lie in the closed-source FX!32 code which HP is not at liberty to > release. Out of curiousity, does qemu run on Alpha? This would also provide an x86 emulation environment. Stephen. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: em86
So, is it just the case that the x86 interpreter needs to be rebuilt with a newer glibc? While at DEC I had been partially responsible for that component on Linux/Alpha. The last round, we tried to make that component open source, without luck. I had tried to find out what needed to be done to make it work with newer distros - in any case, I might be able to talk to some people to see able about getting a newer component built at the very least - just tell me what needs to be done. ...tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: em86
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 02:31:43PM +0200, Pekka H wrote: > I googled and found similar problems that I have, but no solution. > Richard says > http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2002/05/msg00049.html > "I did read though that EM86 doesnt work with new versions of glibc" > So my question is what version of glibc hould work and is there any else > solution to get em86 work? Nope, the only way to get em86 working is to run it on and old system. IIRC it has issues not just with new glibc, but also with new kernels as well (due to sufficiently old glibcs not running right on modern kernels...). Fixing this for newer systems with a rebuild is not possible because some of the issues lie in the closed-source FX!32 code which HP is not at liberty to release. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
em86
Hi I googled and found similar problems that I have, but no solution. Richard says http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2002/05/msg00049.html "I did read though that EM86 doesnt work with new versions of glibc" So my question is what version of glibc hould work and is there any else solution to get em86 work? My machine es es40 with Debian 3.1 Anybody any help? // Pekka -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: trying to run em86: getdents ?
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 04:15:47PM -0500, James D. Freels wrote: > I have an x86 application I am going to try to run under the alpha. I > could not find a debian package, so I downloaded from > ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Linux-Alpha/em86/ > and used alien to convert to a .deb and installed (actually I also tried > to build the source and no luck there either) > I get the following error to the console when trying to > execute /usr/bin/em86 > Any idea how to correct this ? > em86: relocation error: em86: undefined symbol: __getdents That means the em86 binary is incorrectly linked with references to internal symbols from an old version of glibc. You will probably need to grab a copy of glibc 2.0 and run LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/old/libc.so.6 em86 to get this to work. I'd be interested to know if you do manage to get those old binaries to run on a current system. If you really can make them work, it'd be interesting to have em86 as a multiarch target for alpha... :) -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer signature.asc Description: Digital signature
trying to run em86: getdents ?
I have an x86 application I am going to try to run under the alpha. I could not find a debian package, so I downloaded from ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Linux-Alpha/em86/ and used alien to convert to a .deb and installed (actually I also tried to build the source and no luck there either) I get the following error to the console when trying to execute /usr/bin/em86 Any idea how to correct this ? em86: relocation error: em86: undefined symbol: __getdents
Re: EM86-> flash plugin
On Wednesday 08 May 2002 17:58, Laurent Jacques wrote: > On Wednesday 08 May 2002 17:38, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > There's also a .deb in woody (try apt-cache search flash). Has anyone > > used it as a plugin? > > Yes, I see now libflash0 and libflash0-dev. > But this is not the plugin. > > Perhaps, can we recompile the flash plugin by using these (working) > elements ? OK, I have tried to compile the swfplayer of the flash sources with the library compiled in the package libflash0 and the flash.h inserted in /usr/include by the same package. I got the same segfault than this obtain from the complete compilation from the source without links to libflash0. With gdb, I have seen that the problem seems to come from Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x2055294 in Shape::Shape () from /usr/lib/libflash-0.4.so.10 But I'm not a specialist of gdb. Any idea ? Laurent. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Video playback (was: Re: EM86)
Richard Fillion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Video playback, mpegs are fun and all, but well, does anyone know > how I could view different formats of video? Possibly asf, maybe > divx? I know im asking much here, but it woudl be fun. ffmpeg from CVS in combination with mplayer works quite good. It can play most divx. Contact me if it doesn't work or is too slow, I have a few more patches. Falk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EM86
On Wed, 8 May 2002, Richard Fillion wrote: ... Snip > While im listing my problems, may aswell make the list complete. Has > anyone here gotten OpenGL going on an Alpha? I am using a PCI ATI 32Meg > Radeon card, its a nice card and X runs great with it. The only > problem/complaint i have is that i cant get OpenGL because of the lack > of the GLX extension for the card. For x86 users its as simple as > telling make menuconfig for the kernel that you want DRI support for the > Radeon. Unfortunately for me, that option doesnt come up unless i add > support for AGP which i dont have/use. I'm considering ditching the > card for another so suggesting another card is a possibility. > I have a pci Radeon in my LX and it does OpenGL quite well. As far as I recall, you do need to enable AGP to build the correct modules. The performance is fairly good. No one on the list seemed to be interested, but I reported success running a Quake2 in OpenGL mode after the source was released. > Video playback, mpegs are fun and all, but well, does anyone know how I > could view different formats of video? Possibly asf, maybe divx? I > know im asking much here, but it woudl be fun. > I believe that xine works fine on alpha for this. I've been playing videos mainly on my dual xeon box lately, so I'm not quite sure which video players I got to compile on my alpha machine. I'll try to check this out later and send the results to the list. -Eric Christy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EM86
Huh, changing that thing in /proc/sys/net made it work, thanks guys. It got real frustrating because most sites which refer to Alphas have links to stuff on the compaq site. Has anyone here had problems with SCSI CDROM/Burners in AlphaLinux? On every kernel i've run so far on this box (all 2.4 kernels), i've always had to misfortune of having random crashes which all occured while accessing the CDROM (a DEC drive that came with the server). Now i have a burner in the box, and it burns well, but after each burn the box dies due to the fact that the SCSI driver seems to go to shit on me. At the console it'll just lock up the box, but in X its must stranger than that. What's in RAM i can play with, but as apps go to read from teh HD they halt. I can start up a new xterm, a window will pop up for it, but because running /bin/bash requires reading from the HD the shell never comes up. While on an uptime binge my box crashed while reading a file on the cdrom (i was at 38days!). SCSI storage controller: QLogic Corp. ISP1020 Fast-wide SCSI (rev 05), thats what SCSI controller i have, its an onboard controller. While im listing my problems, may aswell make the list complete. Has anyone here gotten OpenGL going on an Alpha? I am using a PCI ATI 32Meg Radeon card, its a nice card and X runs great with it. The only problem/complaint i have is that i cant get OpenGL because of the lack of the GLX extension for the card. For x86 users its as simple as telling make menuconfig for the kernel that you want DRI support for the Radeon. Unfortunately for me, that option doesnt come up unless i add support for AGP which i dont have/use. I'm considering ditching the card for another so suggesting another card is a possibility. Video playback, mpegs are fun and all, but well, does anyone know how I could view different formats of video? Possibly asf, maybe divx? I know im asking much here, but it woudl be fun. I run Debian Woody, and i did "apt-cache search flash" and there was no flash plugin/app that came up, you sure you arent using Sid? Richard Fillion [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EM86
On Wed, 8 May 2002, Richard Fillion wrote: > Thats another problem, i just CANT connect to Compaq's site. Its been > like that for like 6months for me. It resolves the IP, but then > nothing. Its weird. So the URL you just gave me, i cant connect to. :( Have you tried disabling TCP explicit congestion notification? Some routers don't pass TCP traffic when that's enabled. I've been bitten by this too by various sites, and since then it's turned off here. Try echo 0 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies / Emile van Bergen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153| http://www.e-advies.info -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EM86
Interesting EM86 apps ... etc, Well, x86 to me meant "run this x86 app on your Alpha," where "this app" was coded for the NT platform. Later that evening, I realized that, over the years, people have turned out code for x86 Linux that might be interesting for Alpha Linux users. In the context of this thread, such an app would be Opera. It's only available for x86, doesn't make NT system calls, and doesn't provide source code; which considerations make it an ideal candidate for em86. As I expected, many of you noticed the short-sighted statement. Had I posted a retraction, it would nevertheless have been buried in the rush to contradict. So, I wait for all the "but you didn't consider" responses and reply en masse. I've never heard of em86, my familiarity is with a similar tool: FX86. AFAIK, that never made it to Alpha Linux from NT. -- microsoft free by 2003
Re: EM86
Have you tried stock ftp? Also, does lynx yield the same non-connection? -- microsoft free by 2003 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EM86-> flash plugin
On Wednesday 08 May 2002 17:38, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > There's also a .deb in woody (try apt-cache search flash). Has anyone > used it as a plugin? Yes, I see now libflash0 and libflash0-dev. But this is not the plugin. Perhaps, can we recompile the flash plugin by using these (working) elements ? Laurent. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EM86-> flash plugin
Laurent Jacques wrote: On Wednesday 08 May 2002 15:19, Richard Fillion wrote: Thats another problem, i just CANT connect to Compaq's site. Its been like that for like 6months for me. It resolves the IP, but then nothing. Its weird. So the URL you just gave me, i cant connect to. :( Apt cant install deb files which arent from your apt sources or atleast not that i know of. To install stray deb files, use the "dpkg" tool. The reason i wanted EM86 is to run things like netscape for x86 so that i could view flash and all the other cool not-alpha-friendly stuff. Unless you guys know how to get the flash plugin to work on the Alpha, which would also be useful to know. There is the GPL flash plugin available here: http://www.swift-tools.com/Flash/ There's also a .deb in woody (try apt-cache search flash). Has anyone used it as a plugin? Zeen, -- -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! <http://lyre.mit.edu/%7Epowell/The_Best_Stuff_In_The_World_Today_Cafe.ogg> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EM86
On Wednesday 08 May 2002 07:09, Jeffrey Chimene wrote: > Also, why bother with EM86? Most of the "interesting" apps on that platform > require NT. What ? em86 is for running linux-x86 applications. What is the link with NT ? Do you speak of wine ? Laurent. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EM86-> flash plugin
On Wednesday 08 May 2002 15:19, Richard Fillion wrote: > Thats another problem, i just CANT connect to Compaq's site. Its been > like that for like 6months for me. It resolves the IP, but then > nothing. Its weird. So the URL you just gave me, i cant connect to. :( > > Apt cant install deb files which arent from your apt sources or atleast > not that i know of. To install stray deb files, use the "dpkg" tool. > > The reason i wanted EM86 is to run things like netscape for x86 so that > i could view flash and all the other cool not-alpha-friendly stuff. > Unless you guys know how to get the flash plugin to work on the Alpha, > which would also be useful to know. There is the GPL flash plugin available here: http://www.swift-tools.com/Flash/ But I had problem to compile it (segfault on exec). You can instead download it from rpmfind: ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.0/en/powertools/alpha/RedHat/RPMS/flash-0.4.3-9.alpha.rpm and then, you have to alien it. Bye, Laurent. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EM86
>Of course, while I was in the middle of composing the first edition of this reply, >Netscape crashed. However - what URL were you using? I noticed one of them >was dead. I was able to download the software earlier this week. I know while working @ Compaq I was briefly working with someone who wished to pick up em86 development to produce a version that works with a modern glibc, etc. We had a few problems with the runtime and I never heard back from him. I know I did provide a newer x86 emulator image for the project. >Try the following URL: netscape >You'll need Alien, and, IMHO, I'd convert to a .deb and install in one pass. >I still can't figure out how to tell apt to install from an arbitrary .deb. >Also, why bother with EM86? Most of the "interesting" apps on that platform require NT. I really do not undderstand this statement - could you please elaborate? ...tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EM86
http://www.lib.uaa.alaska.edu/axp-list/archive/2002-04/0280.html > Is there a homepage for the em86 program? All I can find are ftp http://www.cs.rose-hulman.edu/~donaldlf/em86/index.html Leslie Donaldson was the last person to work on em86 and bring it somewhat up to date. The files that he links to can be found here. http://gatekeeper.dec.com/pub/linux/alphalinux/ Using LD_PRELOAD pointing to the libc5 compat libs on your RH system will get it to work. That's as much as I remember, I havent touched it in a long time. Peter -- www.linuxalpha.org www.alphadriven.org Peter Petrakis Warrior/Engineer[EMAIL PROTECTED] " Who the hell are you!? Name's Ash Housewares..." > -Original Message- > From: Richard Fillion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 9:19 AM > To: debian-alpha@lists.debian.org > Cc: debian-alpha@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: EM86 > > > Thats another problem, i just CANT connect to Compaq's site. Its been > like that for like 6months for me. It resolves the IP, but then > nothing. Its weird. So the URL you just gave me, i cant connect to. :( > > Apt cant install deb files which arent from your apt sources or atleast > not that i know of. To install stray deb files, use the "dpkg" tool. > > The reason i wanted EM86 is to run things like netscape for x86 so that > i could view flash and all the other cool not-alpha-friendly stuff. > Unless you guys know how to get the flash plugin to work on the Alpha, > which would also be useful to know. > > Richard Fillion > -Proud Digital Server 3000 owner > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Jeffrey Chimene wrote: > > Of course, while I was in the middle of composing the first edition > of this reply, Netscape crashed. > > > > However - what URL were you using? I noticed one of them was dead. > I was able to download the > > > > software earlier this week. Try the following URL: netscape > <ftp://ftp.support.compaq.com/private/alkpha-tools-software/netscape> > > > > You'll need Alien, and, IMHO, I'd convert to a .deb and install in > one pass. I still can't figure out > > > > how to tell apt to install from an arbitrary .deb. > > > > Also, why bother with EM86? Most of the "interesting" apps on that > platform require NT. > > > > -- > > microsoft free by 2003 > > > > Richard Fillion wrote: > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EM86
Thats another problem, i just CANT connect to Compaq's site. Its been like that for like 6months for me. It resolves the IP, but then nothing. Its weird. So the URL you just gave me, i cant connect to. :( Apt cant install deb files which arent from your apt sources or atleast not that i know of. To install stray deb files, use the "dpkg" tool. The reason i wanted EM86 is to run things like netscape for x86 so that i could view flash and all the other cool not-alpha-friendly stuff. Unless you guys know how to get the flash plugin to work on the Alpha, which would also be useful to know. Richard Fillion -Proud Digital Server 3000 owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeffrey Chimene wrote: Of course, while I was in the middle of composing the first edition of this reply, Netscape crashed. However - what URL were you using? I noticed one of them was dead. I was able to download the software earlier this week. Try the following URL: netscape <ftp://ftp.support.compaq.com/private/alkpha-tools-software/netscape> You'll need Alien, and, IMHO, I'd convert to a .deb and install in one pass. I still can't figure out how to tell apt to install from an arbitrary .deb. Also, why bother with EM86? Most of the "interesting" apps on that platform require NT. -- microsoft free by 2003 Richard Fillion wrote: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EM86
Of course, while I was in the middle of composing the first edition of this reply, Netscape crashed. However - what URL were you using? I noticed one of them was dead. I was able to download the software earlier this week. Try the following URL: netscape You'll need Alien, and, IMHO, I'd convert to a .deb and install in one pass. I still can't figure out how to tell apt to install from an arbitrary .deb. Also, why bother with EM86? Most of the "interesting" apps on that platform require NT. -- microsoft free by 2003 Richard Fillion wrote: I havent been on this list in a few months now (which is strange seeing how i never unsubscribed myself...). Tonight i realized how (by lack of a better word) crappy the Linux/Alpha broswers are, i couldnt navigate any sites with the least bit of complex _javascript_. I tried with Mozilla and Konqueror with the same results (utter frustration). So i checked if there was a Netscape port to Alpha or something, which i found there was but i wasnt able to download it from Compaq. I no longer really care about the browsers, what i do care about is what i found while looking for netscape. EM86, the x86 emulator for Alphas. I almost fell on the floor when i found out it existed, and that it was made by Digital (people who im guessing knew the Alpha well). So i downloaded what i could find of 0.4 in RPM format, converted them to debs, and installed them. Once that was done, i went to run it and i got: em86: error in loading shared libraries: em86: undefined symbol: __getdents. A bit frustrated, i uninstalled it and went to download an older version i found which actually had a "how to install" file, it was 0.2 of EM86. I installed exactly like they said and i get: em86: error while loading shared libraries: unexpected reloc type 0x01@ My search on google began. I found out that i'm far from being the first to get that undefined symbol error, but i have yet to find a solution to it. Everywhere where i've seen "solutions" it was kernel related stuff, which i already had going. I did read though that EM86 doesnt work with new versions of glibc, would any of you know if there is any truth to that? EM86 looks to be very interesting, i would really like to get it going if at all possible. Thanks, Richard Fillion [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EM86
I havent been on this list in a few months now (which is strange seeing how i never unsubscribed myself...). Tonight i realized how (by lack of a better word) crappy the Linux/Alpha broswers are, i couldnt navigate any sites with the least bit of complex javascript. I tried with Mozilla and Konqueror with the same results (utter frustration). So i checked if there was a Netscape port to Alpha or something, which i found there was but i wasnt able to download it from Compaq. I no longer really care about the browsers, what i do care about is what i found while looking for netscape. EM86, the x86 emulator for Alphas. I almost fell on the floor when i found out it existed, and that it was made by Digital (people who im guessing knew the Alpha well). So i downloaded what i could find of 0.4 in RPM format, converted them to debs, and installed them. Once that was done, i went to run it and i got: em86: error in loading shared libraries: em86: undefined symbol: __getdents. A bit frustrated, i uninstalled it and went to download an older version i found which actually had a "how to install" file, it was 0.2 of EM86. I installed exactly like they said and i get: em86: error while loading shared libraries: unexpected reloc type 0x01@ My search on google began. I found out that i'm far from being the first to get that undefined symbol error, but i have yet to find a solution to it. Everywhere where i've seen "solutions" it was kernel related stuff, which i already had going. I did read though that EM86 doesnt work with new versions of glibc, would any of you know if there is any truth to that? EM86 looks to be very interesting, i would really like to get it going if at all possible. Thanks, Richard Fillion [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EM86
Steve Hiller wrote:
> I looked through the archives for the mailing list and saw that a few
> people were working on em86 a few years back. Did anyone get it to
> compile and work properly? I am not much of a code hacker myself so it's
> beyond me. Any help would be much appreciated.
OK this may help. I used to run em86 when I had RedHat 5.2 on my
Alpha 21164LX before a saw the Debian Light :-) The kernel was 2.0.34
and I used binary em86 version 0.4 from rpm's. It worked fine and I
eventually got the Intel Netscape binary running fine.
But I have not tried the em86 since moving to Debian. Anyhow here are
the notes I made during my install of this a few years ago.
Best wishes.
LIST OF EM86 FILES
--
FilenameHave?
-
em86-0.4-1.alpha.rpmLinux/X86 emulator for Linux/Alpha
yes
em86-x86-0.2-1.i386.rpm X86-specific components of EM86
yes
em86-X11libs-0.2-1.alpha.rpmem86-X11libs library package
yes
em86-baselibs-0.2-1.alpha.rpm em86-baselibs library package
yes
em86-binutils-libs-0.2-1.alpha.rpm x
em86-fx-0.4-1.alpha.rpm x
em86-misc-libs-0.2-1.alpha.rpm x
clock-pc164-rh40x
Documentation:
em86.html yes
getting_em86.html yes
status.html yes
tech.html yes
developer.html yes
volunteer.html yes
Installation
kernel-patches: Currently this directory contains one
file: alpha-patches-2.0.30-0.2.gz. As the name implies, this is a set of
kernel
patches against kernel version 2.0.30. A set of patches for the latest 2.1
release is under development and will be released shortly.
This patch MUST be applied in order for EM86 to work properly!
Didn't do this. My kernel is 2.0.34 (via uname -a) and it is compiled with
(via dot.config.current)
CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_EM86=y
Install the required components as follows in the following order:
1. rpm -ivh em86-0.2-1.alpha.rpm
2. rpm -ivh --ignorearch em86-x86-0.2-1.i386.rpm
3. rpm -ivh em86-baselibs-0.2-1.alpha.rpm
em86:# rpm -qpl em86-0.4-1.alpha.rpm
/usr/bin/em86
/usr/x86/lib/libc-assist.so
/usr/x86/linux486.idx
em86:# rpm -qpl em86-x86-0.2-1.i386.rpm
/usr/bin/ldconfig86
/usr/bin/ldd86
/usr/x86/lib/ld-linux.so.1
/usr/x86/lib/ld-linux.so.1.7.14
/usr/x86/lib/libc-thunk.so
em86:# rpm -qpl em86-baselibs-0.2-1.alpha.rpm
/usr/x86/lib/ld.so
/usr/x86/lib/ld.so.1
/usr/x86/lib/ld.so.1.7.14
/usr/x86/lib/libc.so.5
for lots of files
OK lets install...
em86:# rpm -ivh --test em86-0.4-1.alpha.rpm
em86:# rpm -ivh em86-0.4-1.alpha.rpm
em86##
em86:# rpm -ivh --ignorearch em86-x86-0.2-1.i386.rpm
em86-x86##
em86:# rpm -ivh em86-baselibs-0.2-1.alpha.rpm
em86-baselibs ##
em86:# rpm -ivh em86-X11libs-0.2-1.alpha.rpm
em86-X11libs##
em86:#
Shit! no errors or dependencies, amazing!
Netscape
lots of dependencies
RedBaron
Got the old 4.0 REdHat CD out and copied redbaron-3.0-1.i386.rpm
to /root/Packages
rpm -ivh --test redbaron-3.0-1.i386.rpm just said wrong architecture
but no other probs. Just installed with the no architecture flag...
rpm -ivh -ignorearch redbaron-3.0-1.i386.rpm
Installed with no problems.
Test: mikel$ redbaron
Fired up fine!
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Michael Lake
Active caver, Linux enthusiast and interested in anything technical.
Safety Convenor, Australian Speleological Federation
Owner, Speleonics (Australia)
Re: EM86
Stefan Schroepfer wrote: I doubt it would work, but I can say anything from I Can *not* say anything from [...], of course. personal experience. I just remember discussions about em86 on Redhat axp-list years ago. Sorry, scr
Re: EM86
Steve Hiller wrote: Maybe I just have no idea what's going on. I can't seem to get into the alphalinux site to read any of the docs they have on this issue. Try http://www.linuxalpha.org. There is a section about em86 in the FAQ, but I think it´s very old. If I have compiled the linux/intel part into the kernel I should just be able to run the binary without anything else? I doubt it would work, but I can say anything from personal experience. I just remember discussions about em86 on Redhat axp-list years ago. scr [Doing a full quote here becaus I forgot to redirect my first answer to the list.] On Fri, 2001-09-21 at 16:59, Stefan Schroepfer wrote: Steve Hiller wrote: I looked through the archives for the mailing list and saw that a few people were working on em86 a few years back. Seriously? More recently than several years ago? Did anyone get it to compile and work properly? I am not much of a code hacker myself so it's beyond me. Any help would be much appreciated. I fear you are lost. Afaik you would need kernel support for em86 to work. Cheers, scr
EM86
I looked through the archives for the mailing list and saw that a few people were working on em86 a few years back. Did anyone get it to compile and work properly? I am not much of a code hacker myself so it's beyond me. Any help would be much appreciated. Steve
