amd64 and video card experiences?

2004-08-15 Thread Thomas J. Zeeman
Hi,

Ever since I got close to the stage where I wanted to upgrade my Matrox
P650 with a Sledgehammer (pun intended) I am looking for experiences by
others with ATI or nVidia cards, especially with the OSS-drivers
(especially since ATI has stil not delivered an AMD64-enabled
Linux-driver).

Unfortunately posts about them are a bit rare it seems, especially for
Debian.
So I would like to hear some experiences from you people.

I am mostly looking at an ATI 9200 card, but I would not mind about
hearing experiences with 9600 series or nVidias 5200/5900XT series.

thanx,
Thomas




Re: 2.6.8 based installer?

2004-08-15 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 11:04:59AM +0100, Martin A. Brooks wrote:
 Hi
 
 Are any of the currently available installers based on 2.6.8? 

Not yet.  There currently isn't a kernel image with 2.6.8
available yet but work is in progress.

 (A better question would perhaps be How can I find out if any of the 
 currently available installers are based on 2.6.8? :)

In the debian-installer dir there is a stats file (stats.txt)
that's made each day with all udebs that are on the image
including the kernels.  It currently tells the last ones are
still with 2.6.7-5.


Kurt




Re: Bug#260747: removing --enable-final allows successful compilation of arts-1.3.0

2004-08-15 Thread Matthias Klose
the version you cite is not made by the gcc-3.4 package in unstable
nor do I see that --enable-final is passed at configure time.

Matthias

David Dumas writes:
 I experienced the segfault in mcopidl when compiling arts-1.3.0 with
 gcc 3.4.1 under debian unstable (amd64).  I looked at debian/rules and
 found that --enable-final is passed to configure; this option has
 the following description in the configure usage message:
 
   --enable-final  build size optimized apps (experimental - needs lots
   of memory)
 
 Why would the debian package optimize for size?  Anyway, removing this
 option allowed a successful build, i.e. no segfault in mcopidl.
 
 -David
 
 $ gcc -v
 Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux/3.4.1/specs
 Configured with: ../src/configure -v
 --enable-languages=c,c++,java,f77,pascal,objc,ada,treelang
 --prefix=/usr --libexecdir=/usr/lib
 --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/3.4 --enable-shared
 --with-system-zlib --enable-nls --without-included-gettext
 --program-suffix=-3.4 --enable-__cxa_atexit
 --enable-libstdcxx-allocator=mt --enable-clocale=gnu
 --enable-libstdcxx-debug --disable-werror x86_64-linux
 Thread model: posix
 gcc version 3.4.1 (Debian 3.4.1-5.0.0.2.amd64)
 
 
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Re: Bug#260747: removing --enable-final allows successful compilation of arts-1.3.0

2004-08-15 Thread David Dumas
I was referring to the rules for arts-1.3.0-1, specifically, lines 73-76:

# run configure with build tree $(objdir)
cd $(objdir)  \
CC=gcc-3.3 CXX=g++-3.3 ../configure $(configkde) --enable-final \
--with-alsa

However, as you point out, gcc/g++ 3.3 is used to build the package by
default.  I removed the CC and CXX settings and rebuilt with the
default version on my system (3.4.1), and experienced the segfault in
mcopidl.

I then removed the suspicious --enable-final option and the package
compiled successfully with 3.4.1.  Thus in the end I replaced the
rules quoted above with:

# run configure with build tree $(objdir)
cd $(objdir)  \
../configure $(configkde) \
--with-alsa

-David

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 21:56:08 +0200, Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 the version you cite is not made by the gcc-3.4 package in unstable
 nor do I see that --enable-final is passed at configure time.
 
 Matthias
 
 David Dumas writes:
  I experienced the segfault in mcopidl when compiling arts-1.3.0 with
  gcc 3.4.1 under debian unstable (amd64).  I looked at debian/rules and
  found that --enable-final is passed to configure; this option has
  the following description in the configure usage message:
 
--enable-final  build size optimized apps (experimental - needs 
  lots
of memory)
 
  Why would the debian package optimize for size?  Anyway, removing this
  option allowed a successful build, i.e. no segfault in mcopidl.
 
  -David
 
  $ gcc -v
  Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux/3.4.1/specs
  Configured with: ../src/configure -v
  --enable-languages=c,c++,java,f77,pascal,objc,ada,treelang
  --prefix=/usr --libexecdir=/usr/lib
  --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/3.4 --enable-shared
  --with-system-zlib --enable-nls --without-included-gettext
  --program-suffix=-3.4 --enable-__cxa_atexit
  --enable-libstdcxx-allocator=mt --enable-clocale=gnu
  --enable-libstdcxx-debug --disable-werror x86_64-linux
  Thread model: posix
  gcc version 3.4.1 (Debian 3.4.1-5.0.0.2.amd64)
 




Re: amd64 and video card experiences?

2004-08-15 Thread Hugo Mills
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 11:29:36AM +0200, Thomas J. Zeeman wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Ever since I got close to the stage where I wanted to upgrade my Matrox
 P650 with a Sledgehammer (pun intended) I am looking for experiences by
 others with ATI or nVidia cards, especially with the OSS-drivers
 (especially since ATI has stil not delivered an AMD64-enabled
 Linux-driver).
 
 Unfortunately posts about them are a bit rare it seems, especially for
 Debian.
 So I would like to hear some experiences from you people.
 
 I am mostly looking at an ATI 9200 card, but I would not mind about
 hearing experiences with 9600 series or nVidias 5200/5900XT series.

   I have an ATi Radeon 9600 Pro. It works (in the sense that I can
get X running acceptably). 2D works; 3D is unsupported. There are no
64-bit capable drivers for the 3D parts of the card for linux yet.
ATi are being completely uncommunicative on the subject, and I'm
starting to regret buying the card, after having been a happy ATi
customer for many years.

   Just my experience,
   Hugo.

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