Re: Netboot- problem to find mirror

2004-10-15 Thread Andreas Jochens
On 04-Oct-14 23:23, Peter Cordes wrote:
 It's actually a symlink to sid, or something like that.  Andreas (IIRC) said
 he had his own AMD64 Sarge archive, but I don't think he said he was going
 to put it on Alioth.

I did not put my gcc-3.4 sarge archive on alioth because alioth is 
somewhat low on disk space. Besides that, I am currently recompiling 
my gcc-3.4 sarge archive using only packages from sarge itself.
When this has been comleted, I could make that archive available if 
there is demand for that.

Regards
Andreas Jochens




Re: Ubuntu Linux AMD64 Port

2004-10-15 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Ryan Lovett 

| On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 12:55:26PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
|
|  It's a 64bit only port, yes, and it is built with the same sources as
|  the rest of ubuntu, that is a stabilized, patched sid snapshot as of
|  late June (with fixes ported over from sid).
|  
|  Sorry for taking a while to respond -- just saw this thread. :)
| 
| So it is built with gcc-3.3 then? (just to confirm)

Mostly, yes.  Some parts (read: mozilla*) is built using gcc 3.4.

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Antivirus for AMD64

2004-10-15 Thread TAC-TAC computer



Could anybody recomends me some Antivirus 
working
at Debian x86-64 arch ?

Thanks

Jiri Madle


Re: Antivirus for AMD64

2004-10-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 15:20 +0200, TAC-TAC computer wrote:
 Could anybody recomends me some Antivirus working 
 at  Debian x86-64 arch ?

The regular AV packages in Debian should work, right?

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Re: Antivirus for AMD64

2004-10-15 Thread Daniel van Eeden
clamav should works great on amd64. :)

Daniel van Eeden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 15:20 +0200, TAC-TAC computer wrote:
 Could anybody recomends me some Antivirus working 
 at  Debian x86-64 arch ?
  
 Thanks
  
 Jiri Madle
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Re: Recommendations for cheap Linux-compatible Opteron mobo

2004-10-15 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 08:11:33PM -0700, Alex Perry wrote:
 If you want a AMD64 3000+, 60 GB hard drive, 512 MB memory basic server, 
 two hour UPS, keyboard, scrollwheel mouse, etc ...
 the e-machines M6805 laptop is available from best buy for $1100 or so 
 at the moment.

Does it have supported video?

 The complexities of accelerated 3D, wireless networking and other 
 desktop peripherals are irrelevant if you're going to use it as a 64 bit 
 server.  As a bonus, since it is a mobile processor, you can speedstep 
 it from 3000+ to 2700+ and even down to 1300+ equivalent speeds.  Really 
 handy.  Offhand I don't recall whether it uses ECC memory, but I'd 
 assume not.

My wife bought a Compaq R3240ca for $1800cdn which is a 3200+ with 60G
512M, nvidia 440MX go video and 15.4 WXGA display and a DVD+RW drive and
(stupid hard to make work) broadcom 11g.  Still have to get her to try
loading 64bit debian in addition to the 32bit.

Lennart Sorensen




Re: Recommendations for cheap Linux-compatible Opteron mobo

2004-10-15 Thread Alex Perry
Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 08:11:33PM -0700, Alex Perry wrote:
 

If you want a AMD64 3000+, 60 GB hard drive, 512 MB memory basic server, 
two hour UPS, keyboard, scrollwheel mouse, etc ...
the e-machines M6805 laptop is available from best buy for $1100 or so 
at the moment.
   

Does it have supported video?
Video is ATI 9600, which works fine (accelerated 2D, software 3D) using 
the open source xfree86 drivers in 32 or 64 bit.  The ATI binary driver, 
that gives you accelerated 3D, was (last time I looked) only 32 bit and 
the associated kernel module is not 64 bit capable.  This may have changed.

I should point out, for people joining this thread, that this is an 
Athlon64 not an Opteron laptop.  We're using it as a compute server that 
also controls lab experiments and has a built in X terminal.  The 
compute service has good availability because (even when an experiment 
is being moved from one lab to another) the combination of battery and 
wireless ensure that the other users can always talk to it.  I'm 
describing the display as an X terminal purely because of the lack of 
accelerated 3D when in pure 64.

My wife bought a Compaq R3240ca for $1800cdn which is a 3200+ with 60G
512M, nvidia 440MX go video and 15.4 WXGA display and a DVD+RW drive and
(stupid hard to make work) broadcom 11g.  Still have to get her to try
loading 64bit debian in addition to the 32bit.
Yeah, I'm using an external 802.11 card.  The Nvidia video does, I 
gather from this mailing list, run with the 32 bit libs in otherwise-pure64.

Hope that helps.



Compiling third-party kernel modules for amd64 kernel on Debian/386

2004-10-15 Thread Dave Carrigan
Hi,

I just installed kernel-image-2.6.8-9-amd64-k8 and
kernel-headers-2.6.8-9-amd64-k8 from Debian/unstable. I also have gcc
3.4 installed and made sure my /usr/bin/gcc was pointing to gcc-3.4 (and
the same for g++).

Now I want to compile the VMWare modules:


# vmware-config.pl
  ... snip ...
Building for VMware Workstation 4.5.2 or VMware GSX Server 3.1.0.
Using 2.6.x kernel build system.
make: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config7/vmmon-only'
make -C /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-9-amd64-k8/include/.. SUBDIRS=$PWD 
SRCROOT=$PWD/. modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-9-amd64-k8'
  CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config7/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o
/tmp/vmware-config7/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1: error: code model `kernel' not 
supportedin the 32 bit mode


So I edited /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-9-amd64-k8/Makefile and added
-m64 to the CFLAGS and retried the build:


# vmware-config.pl
  ... snip ...
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-9-amd64-k8'
  CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config8/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o
  CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config8/vmmon-only/linux/hostif.o
  CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config8/vmmon-only/common/cpuid.o
  ... snip ...
  LD [M]  /tmp/vmware-config8/vmmon-only/vmmon.o
  Building modules, stage 2.
  MODPOST
modpost: /tmp/vmware-config8/vmmon-only/vmmon.o no symtab?
/bin/sh: line 1: 17532 Aborted (core dumped) 
scripts/mod/modpost -i /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-9-amd64-k8/Module.symvers 
/tmp/vmware-config8/vmmon-only/vmmon.o
make[2]: *** [__modpost] Error 134
make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-9-amd64-k8'
make: *** [vmmon.ko] Error 2
make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config8/vmmon-only'
Unable to build the vmmon module.


I am having similar problems building the NVIDIA drivers, and I am at a
loss how to proceed. Any suggestions?

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RE: Antivirus for AMD64

2004-10-15 Thread Miller, Marc
AFAIK just one virus has been created for AMD64, and even that was a
test.  Standard 32-bit AV programs should work fine for the time being.

Marc J. Miller
Strategic Alliance Manager
Partner Center
AMD Computational Products Group


-Original Message-
From: Ron Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 6:24 AM
To: Debian-AMD64
Subject: Re: Antivirus for AMD64

On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 15:20 +0200, TAC-TAC computer wrote:
 Could anybody recomends me some Antivirus working 
 at  Debian x86-64 arch ?

The regular AV packages in Debian should work, right?

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Jefferson, LA USA
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people carrying razors.
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RE: Antivirus for AMD64

2004-10-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 09:51 -0700, Miller, Marc wrote:
 AFAIK just one virus has been created for AMD64, and even that was a
 test.  Standard 32-bit AV programs should work fine for the time being.

Presumably, the OP is using the AMD64 box as a mailserver for a bunch
of Windows clients.

Hopefully, though, tac-tac.cz has a bunch of Linux clients, and OP
doesn't need AV.

 Marc J. Miller
 Strategic Alliance Manager
 Partner Center
 AMD Computational Products Group
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 6:24 AM
 To: Debian-AMD64
 Subject: Re: Antivirus for AMD64
 
 On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 15:20 +0200, TAC-TAC computer wrote:
  Could anybody recomends me some Antivirus working 
  at  Debian x86-64 arch ?
 
 The regular AV packages in Debian should work, right?
 

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Compiling MySQL on amd64 (Success); Was: [LinuxThreads, NPTL]

2004-10-15 Thread Pete Harlan
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 07:42:16AM +0200, Andreas Jochens wrote:
 On 04-Oct-06 17:53, Pete Harlan wrote:
  Do you know how I can compile a program that requires LinuxThreads?
  
  Specifically, when running configure from the mysql source from
  mysql.com, it now fails with:
  
   checking LinuxThreads... Not found
   configure: error: This is a linux system and Linuxthreads was not
   found. On linux Linuxthreads should be used.  Please install Linuxthreads
   (or a new glibc) and try again.  See the Installation chapter in the
   Reference Manual for more information.
 
 This is an upstream bug in mysql. I think this will be fixed upstream 
 soon.
 
 In the meantime, please try the attached patch (which is against 
 mysql-dfsg-4.0.21).

Thank you for the patch.  I did finally manage to get a seemingly
stable MySQL on amd64.  Specifically, by converting from pure64 to
your gcc-3.4 repository.  Thank you for that too!

After patching the sources, MySQL failed on the pure64 (3.3) archive
whether compiled from upstream MySQL sources or Alioth sources, and
whether I used gcc-3.3 or gcc-3.4.

Compiling (with gcc-3.4) on the gcc-3.4 archive did the trick though.
Either some of your patches to the libs, or simply compiling those
libs with gcc-3.4, seems to have solved the problems I was seeing.

The problem I had been seeing was when I'd do a make test after a
make, it would usually work.  But if I ran it over and over again in
a loop, some one or another of the 206 tests run by make test would
fail once every 15-20 times through the loop.  It was a different test
that would fail each time, and which iteration of the tests would fail
also seemed random.

This was reproducible on two separate machines, one of which has had
extensive memory testing, so I don't think it's dodgy hardware.

Compiling and running on a gcc-3.4-archive box ran rock solid, making
it through ~250 iterations of make test without an error before I
stopped it.

It gives me more faith in the gcc-3.4 archive for everything, since
the differences presumably are in one of the libraries used by MySQL.
Those would be:

% ldd sql/mysqld
librt.so.1 = /lib/librt.so.1
libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2
libcrypt.so.1 = /lib/libcrypt.so.1
libnsl.so.1 = /lib/libnsl.so.1
libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0
libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6
libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6
libgcc_s.so.1 = /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6
/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
%

So, thanks again for your work!

--Pete


PS: Andreas's MySQL upstream source patch for configuring MySQL on a
LinuxThreads-free NPTL system (e.g., Debian amd64):

diff -urN ../tmp-orig/mysql-dfsg-4.0.21/configure ./configure
--- ../tmp-orig/mysql-dfsg-4.0.21/configure 2004-10-01 14:22:20.900250208 
+0200
+++ ./configure 2004-10-01 14:22:17.787723384 +0200
@@ -24953,18 +24953,10 @@
 else
   echo $as_me:$LINENO: result: \Not found\ 5
 echo ${ECHO_T}\Not found\ 6
-  # If this is a linux machine we should barf
   if test $IS_LINUX = true
   then
-   { { echo $as_me:$LINENO: error: This is a linux system and 
Linuxthreads was not
-found. On linux Linuxthreads should be used.  Please install Linuxthreads
-(or a new glibc) and try again.  See the Installation chapter in the
-Reference Manual for more information. 5
-echo $as_me: error: This is a linux system and Linuxthreads was not
-found. On linux Linuxthreads should be used.  Please install Linuxthreads
-(or a new glibc) and try again.  See the Installation chapter in the
-Reference Manual for more information. 2;}
-   { (exit 1); exit 1; }; }
+# use nptl instead of linuxthreads
+CFLAGS=$CFLAGS -DUSE_MUTEX_INSTEAD_OF_RW_LOCKS 
-DPTHREAD_ADAPTIVE_MUTEX_INITIALIZER_NP
   else
echo $as_me:$LINENO: checking \DEC threads\ 5
 echo $ECHO_N checking \DEC threads\... $ECHO_C 6
diff -urN ../tmp-orig/mysql-dfsg-4.0.21/configure.in ./configure.in
--- ../tmp-orig/mysql-dfsg-4.0.21/configure.in  2004-09-07 00:29:39.0 
+0200
+++ ./configure.in  2004-10-01 14:22:10.295862320 +0200
@@ -1238,13 +1238,10 @@
   with_named_thread=-lpthread
 else
   AC_MSG_RESULT(Not found)
-  # If this is a linux machine we should barf
   if test $IS_LINUX = true
   then
-   AC_MSG_ERROR([This is a linux system and Linuxthreads was not
-found. On linux Linuxthreads should be used.  Please install Linuxthreads
-(or a new glibc) and try again.  See the Installation chapter in the
-Reference Manual for more information.])
+# use nptl instead of linuxthreads
+CFLAGS=$CFLAGS -DUSE_MUTEX_INSTEAD_OF_RW_LOCKS 
-DPTHREAD_ADAPTIVE_MUTEX_INITIALIZER_NP
   else
AC_MSG_CHECKING(DEC threads)
 if 

Re: Asus K8V - acpi/cpufreq

2004-10-15 Thread Anders Peter Fugmann
Sebastian Steinlechner wrote:
On Sun, 2004-10-10 at 17:56, Anders Peter Fugmann wrote:
--
VCore: +1.10 V  (min =  +1.71 V, max =  +1.89 V)  
+3.3V: +3.30 V  (min =  +3.14 V, max =  +3.47 V)  
+5V:   +5.00 V  (min =  +4.76 V, max =  +5.24 V)  
+12V: +11.25 V  (min = +10.82 V, max = +13.19 V)  
-12V:  +0.30 V  (min = -13.18 V, max = -10.80 V)  
-5V:   +5.10 V  (min =  -5.25 V, max =  -4.75 V)  
V5SB:  +5.51 V  (min =  +4.76 V, max =  +5.24 V)  
VBat:  +0.02 V  (min =  +2.40 V, max =  +3.60 V)  
fan1:0 RPM  (min = 37500 RPM, div = 2) 
fan2:0 RPM  (min = 337500 RPM, div = 2) 
temp1:   +29°C  (high =+4°C, hyst =+0°C)   sensor = thermistor   
temp2: +30.0°C  (high =   +80°C, hyst =   +75°C)   sensor = thermistor   
alarms:   Chassis intrusion detection  ALARM
beep_enable:
  Sound alarm disabled
--

It's easy to see there are some completely bogus values in there. I
Other than the -12V, I see no bogus values, other than the stopped fans.
(Maybe the V5SB is a bit off, but it can be your power supply.)
don't know about the fan speed - the bios correctly reports it, but it
doesn't show here (and I'm _really_ interested in seeing a fan that does
337500 rpm as a minimum...). Whatever, I found the two measured
Maybe you need to increase the 'div' on the fans to get a reading.
Try something like:
echo 32  /sys/bus/i2c/devices/0-0290/fan1_div
echo 32  /sys/bus/i2c/devices/0-0290/fan2_div
to read out the fan rotation when they are running at low speeds.
temperatures to be correct. temp1 is motherboard temp, temp2 is cpu
temp. fan2 is cpu fan here, and I can throttle it to as low as 120,
which stabilizes cpu temperature at about 32°C during normal typing work
(so, idle most of the time) on a 3200+ using powernowd. Probably I could
even switch it off, but air flow in my box isn't too good (and frankly,
I don't care - on 120, the fan isn't audible anyway.)
I wonder what happens to the CPU temperature when you run
'while true; do true:done' for ten minutes, or if you try render 
something with povray. Static fan settings can be dangerous, when set 
too low. Luckily the AMD64 processors all have thermal protection.

Regards
Anders Fugmann



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2004-10-15 Thread Damon Chesser
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