update for K8 Mainboards Linux compatibility list

2004-10-22 Thread Max
Hi!
Update for K8 Mainboards Linux compatibility list
Sound on MSI K8T Master2-FAR mobo works fine with snd_via82xx driver.
Max



AMD64 mainboard with X-PCI ?

2004-10-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, 

I do not find any AMD64(fx) mainboards with X-PCI Slots in Germany/
France. Only Opterons which are to expensive for a Workststion. 

I need a X-PCI slot because my Intel GBit NIC's.

Can you tell me some mainboard types which support X-PCI ?

Thanks
Michelle

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Re: AMD64 mainboard with X-PCI ?

2004-10-22 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Michelle Konzack wrote:
Hello,
I do not find any AMD64(fx) mainboards with X-PCI Slots in Germany/
France. Only Opterons which are to expensive for a Workststion.
I need a X-PCI slot because my Intel GBit NIC's.
Can you tell me some mainboard types which support X-PCI ?
If you mean PCI-X (I've never heard of X-PCI), you probably won't get hold 
of a cheap motherboard with that. PCI-X is usually only available on 
server and workstation motherboards, which means Opteron in the amd64 
world.

But if you don't need to do more than about 30 MByte/s, a PCI-X card will 
fit in an ordinary PCI slot.

/Mattias Wadenstein



Re: AMD64 mainboard with X-PCI ?

2004-10-22 Thread Andreas Bittner
Michelle Konzack wrote:
I do not find any AMD64(fx) mainboards with X-PCI Slots in Germany/ 
France. Only Opterons which are to expensive for a Workststion.
you mean pci-x. opterons in the 14x series should really be that 
expensive. (142 for less than 200 euros)


I need a X-PCI slot because my Intel GBit NIC's.
maybe you want to wait for some pcie boards that include (multiple) 
gigabitethernet chips onboard. such boards already exist for the the 
intel x86 plaform. maybe when vendors start shipping their pcie chipsets 
for x86-64, such boards might appear too.

Can you tell me some mainboard types which support X-PCI ?
i dont know about your details, but maybe its cheaper to go for some 
single-opteron (1xx-series) board with gigabit onboard and all that, 
than sticking to your old intel nic and waiting for some upcoming 
solution. the opteron 1xx-series are compatible with the amd64-fx ones 
if im not mistaken.

for example the single socket boards from tyan
http://www.tyan.com/products/html/opteron.html
or others.



Re: Nvidia direct rendering in chroot

2004-10-22 Thread Markus Benning
I dont have precompiled modules avaiable for the official kernels
in the archive.
You must build the kernel module package from the nvidia-kernel-source
package. This package contains all you need to build the kernel module
package for your kernel.
You can use the make-kpkg or modules-assistant tools to build the
debianized version of modules.

Markus

On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 03:04:08PM -0700, Joe Oppegaard wrote:
 I added your site to my sources.list file, but when I try to install 
 nvidia-glx I get the following error:
 
   The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111 but it is not installable
 
 Is there a .deb of nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111 available somewhere I can
 get?
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sound with sid and amd64 kernel

2004-10-22 Thread Stephen Waters
ALSA works pretty well with 32-bit user space and 64-bit kernel (so long
as you have snd-ioctl32 loaded). However, the dmix plugin appears to
be broken. Have any of you been able to get ALSA's dmix to work?

Thanks,
-s



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Re: AMD64 mainboard with X-PCI ?

2004-10-22 Thread Erik Mouw
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 01:00:11PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
 I do not find any AMD64(fx) mainboards with X-PCI Slots in Germany/
 France. Only Opterons which are to expensive for a Workststion. 

Yeah, that's right.

 I need a X-PCI slot because my Intel GBit NIC's.

You can put PCI-X cards in PCI slots. We have two dual Athlon boxes
each with an Intel dual E1000 server adapter in a PCI 64/66 slot and
that works just fine. I haven't tried them in a PCI-32/33 slot, but I
expect that would work fine, too. (that's at least the theory behind
it).


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Re: AMD64 mainboard with X-PCI ?

2004-10-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-10-22 16:28:00, schrieb Erik Mouw:
 On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 01:00:11PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:

 You can put PCI-X cards in PCI slots. We have two dual Athlon boxes
 each with an Intel dual E1000 server adapter in a PCI 64/66 slot and
 that works just fine. I haven't tried them in a PCI-32/33 slot, but I
 expect that would work fine, too. (that's at least the theory behind
 it).

I know, this is wahat I do curently, but I need an AMD64(fx) or
an Opteron for developing 64-Bit-Applications. 

P4 are no problem to get with PCI-X... 100-140 Euro !!! :-(

 Erik

Greetings
Michelle

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Re: AMD64 mainboard with X-PCI ?

2004-10-22 Thread Alex Perry
Michelle Konzack wrote:
This is what I curently do, but get not more then 20 MByte/Second
using the Intel EtherExpress pro 1000MT. 

Are you sure that the data source (wget file or whatever) is RAM 
resident ?  That looks suspiciously like an IDE read limit or similar. 
I've had non-64 bit athlons running at over 90% of the wire theoretical 
limit on a pair of intel gigabit cards without much trouble ... but it 
took some thought to structure the benchmark to make sure (a) the 
packets contained valid data and (b) other subsystems weren't limiting 
the flow rate.

Alex.



Re: AMD64 mainboard with X-PCI ?

2004-10-22 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Alex Perry wrote:
Michelle Konzack wrote:
This is what I curently do, but get not more then 20 MByte/Second
using the Intel EtherExpress pro 1000MT. 
Are you sure that the data source (wget file or whatever) is RAM 
resident ? That looks suspiciously like an IDE read limit or similar. 
I've had non-64 bit athlons running at over 90% of the wire theoretical 
limit on a pair of intel gigabit cards without much trouble ... but it 
took some thought to structure the benchmark to make sure (a) the 
packets contained valid data and (b) other subsystems weren't limiting 
the flow rate.
I have done similar things over time, and although I have gotten slightly 
faster speeds (topping out at about 30Mbyte/s), that's about the limit. 
Same setup but using a 64/66 or better pci slot gets aroudn 100MByte/s 
throughput (athlon/p3/p4/whatever, that's not important here, pci bus is).

/Mattias Wadenstein



K8S Pro (S2882UG3NR) + Sil 3114 (Raid 1) + Sarge

2004-10-22 Thread Nils Valentin
Hi eveybody on the list,

I am trying to setup a Opteron box. I am having a hard time to setup Raid 1 on 
the sata drives connected to the sil3114 controller.

The same system works under Suse Linux 9.0 perfectly fine. Now I try to make 
it a dual boot machine and get Debian on the box as well. I am using the 
Debian netinstall image (sid-amd64-netinst.iso) The Debian Installer seems to 
be fine until I get to the point harddisk configuration were it sees only the 
2 sata drives separately. 

That should basically tell me that the sil3114 driver is either not included 
or not working the way I expect it to be. 

Does anybody have any ideas ? 
Feel free to leave your rant ;-)

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Re: K8S Pro (S2882UG3NR) + Sil 3114 (Raid 1) + Sarge

2004-10-22 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 12:36:05AM +0900, Nils Valentin wrote:
 I am trying to setup a Opteron box. I am having a hard time to setup Raid 1 
 on 
 the sata drives connected to the sil3114 controller.
 
 The same system works under Suse Linux 9.0 perfectly fine. Now I try to make 
 it a dual boot machine and get Debian on the box as well. I am using the 
 Debian netinstall image (sid-amd64-netinst.iso) The Debian Installer seems to 
 be fine until I get to the point harddisk configuration were it sees only the 
 2 sata drives separately. 
 
 That should basically tell me that the sil3114 driver is either not included 
 or not working the way I expect it to be. 
 
 Does anybody have any ideas ? 
 Feel free to leave your rant ;-)

Last I looked at it I thought the proprietary software raid driver for
the 3114 was binary only and hence only available for certain kernels
and certainly not 64bit.  Do I remember wrong?

Besides why do you want proprietary software raid when you could use
open standard linux md software raid (which is faster too in general).

Lennart Sorensen




Boot issues on Gigabyte GM-K8VM800M motherboard.

2004-10-22 Thread Justin Schlottman
I am having issues booting a new machine with the latest boot images. I 
tried the ones from 20040826 and 20041022. The machine boots up and 
starts to load the kernel. After the initrd.gz is loaded the system 
reboots. I can not find any reference to this board or problem. Does 
anyone have similar experiences?

Justin



Re: AMD64 mainboard with X-PCI ?

2004-10-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-10-22 17:38:02, schrieb Kyuu Eturautti:

 I haven't tried network cards, but I have some Adaptec 29160 64-bit SCSI
 controllers in 32 bit slots and I haven't run into any problems on Athlon
 64 or other systems with only PCI-32/33 slots.

I know, but I need 64-Bit CPU and speed on network. 

I have checked more then 30 AMD-64 mainboards but they have only
PCI-32/33 and not PCI-32/66.

If I can find an AMD-64 mainboard with minimum one 66MHz PCI slot
it will me help too.


Greetings
Michelle

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Re: AMD64 mainboard with X-PCI ?

2004-10-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-10-22 17:26:24, schrieb Erik Mouw:

 We faced similar problems with Athlons when we wanted PCI 64/66 slots.
 We just got a dual CPU board and plugged in only a single Athlon CPU.
 
 You can do the same with Opterons: get a dual CPU board (Tyan Thunder
 K8W works very nice for me and has four PCI-X slots) and use only one
 CPU.

Do you have seen the prices for Dual-Opteron mainboards ?
It is the half of my Computer... :-(

Better I find an AMD-64 with PCI-32/66

There is realy a need for a Mainboard-Database...
 
 Erik

Greetings
Michelle

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Re: AMD64 mainboard with X-PCI ?

2004-10-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-10-22 07:50:29, schrieb Alex Perry:
 Michelle Konzack wrote:
 
 This is what I curently do, but get not more then 20 MByte/Second
 using the Intel EtherExpress pro 1000MT. 
 
 
 Are you sure that the data source (wget file or whatever) is RAM 
 resident ?  That looks suspiciously like an IDE read limit or similar. 
 I've had non-64 bit athlons running at over 90% of the wire theoretical 
 limit on a pair of intel gigabit cards without much trouble ... but it 
 took some thought to structure the benchmark to make sure (a) the 
 packets contained valid data and (b) other subsystems weren't limiting 
 the flow rate.

I have a 3w7506 (Raid-5) in my FileServer with 3 x 250 GByte UDMA133
and in my Workststion 3w75xx as 2-Chanel Raid-1

I think fast enough...

 Alex.

Greetings
Michelle

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Re: Matrox P650 and Athlon 64

2004-10-22 Thread Wolfgang Pausch
Hello,

 Easy and reasonable are not what I would expect from this combo.
 Also, don't expect anything from Matrox. AFAIK they have not even
 published beta's for WinXP 64 let alone Linux.

So, I conclude that waiting some time before actually trying to install 64bit 
on my machine is a good idea?

 What do you think, can I expect support for my graphic-card provided by a 
64bit-X-Server at some time in the future, as some of the older Matrox-cards 
are supported in 32 bit?

 Speaking of their Linux-driver. It is buggy and has seen no release since
 last december. A few hints have been given in August that they are still
 working on a new driver, but I would not bet on that.

Yes, especially some parts of its documentation where wrong, I trapped into 
some problems when installing it.




Re: AMD64 mainboard with X-PCI ?

2004-10-22 Thread Ben Wang
There won't be any A64 boards with more than PCI 32-bit 33mhz.
This is a chipset limitation as all current chipsets only support PCI 
32-bit 33mhz.  I have never seen a 32-bit 66mhz slot (doesn't mean it 
doesn't exist but highly unlikely on the A64 platform), most of the 
66mhz devices are connected to 64-bit slots.

Look for motherboards with the AMD-8131/8132 chipset but you'll most 
likely find them only on dual Opteron boards in EATX form factor.

Ben
Michelle Konzack wrote:
Am 2004-10-22 17:38:02, schrieb Kyuu Eturautti:
 

I haven't tried network cards, but I have some Adaptec 29160 64-bit SCSI
controllers in 32 bit slots and I haven't run into any problems on Athlon
64 or other systems with only PCI-32/33 slots.
   

I know, but I need 64-Bit CPU and speed on network. 

I have checked more then 30 AMD-64 mainboards but they have only
PCI-32/33 and not PCI-32/66.
If I can find an AMD-64 mainboard with minimum one 66MHz PCI slot
it will me help too.
Greetings
Michelle
 




Re: K8S Pro (S2882UG3NR) + Sil 3114 (Raid 1) + Sarge

2004-10-22 Thread Nils Valentin
Hi Lemmart,

of course I want to use an open source driver if available (sorry if I didnt 
mention that)

Which one do you suggest ?
Does it come with debian ?

Best regards

Nils Valentin


On Saturday 23 October 2004 01:47, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 12:36:05AM +0900, Nils Valentin wrote:
  I am trying to setup a Opteron box. I am having a hard time to setup Raid
  1 on the sata drives connected to the sil3114 controller.
 
  The same system works under Suse Linux 9.0 perfectly fine. Now I try to
  make it a dual boot machine and get Debian on the box as well. I am using
  the Debian netinstall image (sid-amd64-netinst.iso) The Debian Installer
  seems to be fine until I get to the point harddisk configuration were it
  sees only the 2 sata drives separately.
 
  That should basically tell me that the sil3114 driver is either not
  included or not working the way I expect it to be.
 
  Does anybody have any ideas ?
  Feel free to leave your rant ;-)

 Last I looked at it I thought the proprietary software raid driver for
 the 3114 was binary only and hence only available for certain kernels
 and certainly not 64bit.  Do I remember wrong?

 Besides why do you want proprietary software raid when you could use
 open standard linux md software raid (which is faster too in general).

 Lennart Sorensen

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Nils Valentin
Tokyo/Japan

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