Re: Minimal server hardware configuration
Am 2004-11-06 13:19:00, schrieb Brendan Dacre: Gentlepeople, Since my system was going to be text only and remotely administered, I began to wonder, did I need physical video hardware at all? Normaly YES. Why not use a cheap PCI-VGA-Card ? If you have no Compoutershop for used hardware in the near, look at http://www.ebay.com/. I have bought a package of 20 Matrox Millenium MGA 2 MB for 140 Euro incl. Shipping Brendan Greetings Michelle -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/8845235667100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: Minimal server hardware configuration
On Sat, 2004-11-06 at 13:19 +1100, Brendan Dacre wrote: Gentlepeople, I am planning to build a personal server to run Debian AMD64. I want to build this system as cheaply and have as little unnecessary hardware as possible. Wouldn't that, then, mean that you'd want x86 instead? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B The President has kept all the promises he intended to keep. George Stephanopolous signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Xvnc working?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks, Did anybody succeed in running Xvnc on a Debian amd64 box? Or do I have to use the 32bit version? Regards Harri -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBjQUbUTlbRTxpHjcRAu16AJ4u74KOo2rfyJYyS28JnWpwifO9lwCfQPCr 9xjRVsbqBVn4X2sMTEVwMpY= =o3Nu -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Minimal server hardware configuration
On Friday 05 November 2004 20:19, Brendan Dacre wrote: Gentlepeople, I am planning to build a personal server to run Debian AMD64. I want to build this system as cheaply and have as little unnecessary hardware as possible. I won't have a monitor on the system (certainly not a permanent one anyway) and was planning to remotely administer it using ssh (after installation). As for the initial installation, I was hoping to use a serial cable to send the console output to a terminal on another linux PC, if this is possible. Initially I was going use a Gigabyte GA-K8VM800M (with integrated graphics) because it will be a text only system (no X). But I couldn't find this motherboard in the compatibility list. I also began to have doubts based on the fact that it was probably an entry-level motherboard and although I want save money by omitting unnecessary features and components, I don't want to cripple my system, I want it to have sound basic components. snip Since my system was going to be text only and remotely administered, I began to wonder, did I need physical video hardware at all? Brendan One reason you might not be able to find your board on the compatibility list, is because some people might not have purchased this board, tried it with Debian. They chipset is supported, as far as the graphics it might be hit and miss, but if its what you need and want I would go ahead and purchase it. As far as getting an entry-level board, I would not worry about that either. If you look at the big manufactures, HP, Dell, Intel, Gateway they use Foxconn, other board manufactures. In fact Intel subcontracts to Foxconn, so those who purchase a nice Intel board is paying extra just for the name. If you look at the difference between a server board, and a regular board, you will see mostly more addons, such as SCSI, dual onboard lan, PCI-X a few other things. If you do not need these features then do not purchase a board with these items. One of the biggest factors in a reliable board is the power supply you use with it, also the memory. If you buy a board from one of the big five, you should be fine. As of right now most board manufactures are using better caps, a few years ago a lot of boards had bad caps, and would fail a lot. If memory serves me right Albatron is one of the few manufactures that has stated that they only use capacitors made in Japan. Asus, MSI, Abit, others all had problems with bad caps. Most of these problems, are now non problems, like I said earlier, most manufactures use the same parts, in a server board, as they do in their general boards, do you really think that a board manufacture will have two different capacitors with the same rating, one for servers one for general boards? Just remember common sense things in a server system, good power supply, good memory, good cooling. That goes as well for hard drives, if you can have a case fan blowing over a hard drive it will last longer. Is their a reason you need 64 bit, it almost sounds like a 32 bit system would be cheaper to build with your requirements. I know sometimes we all get exicited about the newest and greatest, but at times its not necessary. Rthoreau
Re: Xvnc working?
Harald Dunkel wrote: Hi folks, Did anybody succeed in running Xvnc on a Debian amd64 box? Or do I have to use the 32bit version? Regards Harri After having zero luck getting it working ( a few weeks ago), and geting no reports from anybody that said they did have it working, I succesfully used alien to create a deb from fedora's (x86_64) vnc-server, and it works fine. http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/2/x86_64/vnc-server-4.0-5.x86_64.rpm -Tupshin
Re: Xvnc working?
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Harald Dunkel wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks, Did anybody succeed in running Xvnc on a Debian amd64 box? Or do I have to use the 32bit version? I'm running the packages (xvncserver,xvncviewer) from the gcc-3.4 archive without problems. Regards, Don Don Hayward @ pomobuli.net
Re: Xvnc working?
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I am on gcc-3.4, too. But on my PC 'Xvnc :1' dies with SEGV.
Both tightvnc and vncserver.
It happens during initalization. strace says (vncerver 3.3.7):
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bind(1, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=/tmp/.X11-unix/X1}, 19) = 0
listen(1, 128) = 0
umask(022) = 0
ioctl(0, SIOCGIFCONF, {80, {{lo, {AF_INET, inet_addr(127.0.0.1)}}, {eth0, {AF_INET,
inet_addr(192.168.1.10)) = 0
ioctl(0, SIOCGIFFLAGS, 0x7fbfffeed0)= 0
ioctl(0, SIOCGIFBRDADDR, 0x7fbfffeed0) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {SIG_IGN}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGHUP, {0x431d20, [HUP], 0x400}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {0x431d30, [INT], 0x400}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGTERM, {0x431d30, [TERM], 0x400}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
open(/etc/X1.hosts, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
rt_sigaction(SIGUSR1, {SIG_IGN}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
getppid() = 5990
open(/etc/localtime, O_RDONLY)= 3
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=837, ...}) = 0
mmap(NULL, 131072, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
0x2a9556c000
read(3, TZif\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\10\0\0\0\10..., 131072) =
837
close(3)= 0
munmap(0x2a9556c000, 131072)= 0
- --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV (core dumped) +++
Seems that the last step is to read some timezone information,
then it dies.
Does anybody know where to find some vncserver 4.0 debs?
Regards
Harri
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Re: Xvnc working?
On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 07:27:27PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: Does anybody know where to find some vncserver 4.0 debs? vnc4server and xvnc4viewer? Kurt
Re: VMware errrors.
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: You must run ldconfig after making the symlinks. Normally, this should be done automatically at the time you install the .deb package... ldconfig sets symlinks according to configuration in /etc/ld.so.conf. If this is done in a chroot then it configures it according to the chroot's /etc/ld.so.conf file. For programs running in the chroot that is fine. But if you are running i686 outside the chroot then the outside the chroot area must know about the libraries in this other location. To programs running outside they don't know anything about chroots. They only know what the /etc/ld.so.conf tells the dynamic loader about and at that time it just looks like libraries in a unique filesystem location. My /etc/ld.so.conf looks like this: /usr/X11R6/lib /emul/ia32-linux/lib /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib /emul/ia32-linux/usr/X11R6/lib /emul/ia32-linux/usr/local/lib That also means that when ldconfig is run in the system normally, outside of the chroot, that it will set up the symlinks (again) for anything inside the chroot too. That is fine. Just noting that it happens twice, effectively. An alternative method would be to use LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the ia32 libraries. That should work too. But better not to require environment variables to run programs. So normally a program installed in the chroot is available immediately by programs outside the chroot and there is no need to run ldconfig explicitly. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Xvnc working?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Harald Dunkel wrote: | Kurt Roeckx wrote: | | On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 07:27:27PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: | | | |Does anybody know where to find some vncserver 4.0 debs? | | | | | | vnc4server and xvnc4viewer? | | | Does not build on gcc-3.4. Some problem with STL. | It is not STL, but bad vnc code. If somebody is interested, here is a workaround: - --- vnc4-4.0.orig/rfb/Region.h 2004-06-11 17:13:52.0 +0200 +++ vnc4-4.0/rfb/Region.h 2004-11-06 21:29:14.425953864 +0100 @@ -22,6 +22,7 @@ ~ #define __RFB_REGION_INCLUDED__ ~ #include rfb/Rect.h +#undef max ~ #include vector ~ struct _XRegion; It still does not build due to missing support for amd64 in the Imake configuration. See the vnc-3.3.7 package for a patch. Regards Harri -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBjTZCUTlbRTxpHjcRAiW7AJ9uUL0RVfjRBJ66GNc1+mwqutpguACdEG+E qgaxzpPrm8gQOD1Gb1+RWZM= =B0Qz -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Xvnc working?
I'm having the same problem with Xvnc, crashing on startup, some error on strftime if I'm not mistaken.. (been a long time) If fedora has rpm's that work on debian, can't we just grab their patches and make it work for us ? On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 21:38:26 +0100, Harald Dunkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Harald Dunkel wrote: | Kurt Roeckx wrote: | | On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 07:27:27PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: | | | |Does anybody know where to find some vncserver 4.0 debs? | | | | | | vnc4server and xvnc4viewer? | | | Does not build on gcc-3.4. Some problem with STL. | It is not STL, but bad vnc code. If somebody is interested, here is a workaround: - --- vnc4-4.0.orig/rfb/Region.h 2004-06-11 17:13:52.0 +0200 +++ vnc4-4.0/rfb/Region.h 2004-11-06 21:29:14.425953864 +0100 @@ -22,6 +22,7 @@ ~ #define __RFB_REGION_INCLUDED__ ~ #include rfb/Rect.h +#undef max ~ #include vector ~ struct _XRegion; It still does not build due to missing support for amd64 in the Imake configuration. See the vnc-3.3.7 package for a patch. Regards Harri -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBjTZCUTlbRTxpHjcRAiW7AJ9uUL0RVfjRBJ66GNc1+mwqutpguACdEG+E qgaxzpPrm8gQOD1Gb1+RWZM= =B0Qz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
