Re: Official 2.6.8 kernel not booting?

2004-11-23 Thread Bob Proulx
Gasper Zejn wrote:
> Hello!

Oh yes, I forgot to say, the list address has been changed.  Please
note the new address.

  debian-amd64@lists.debian.org

Bob


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Re: Official 2.6.8 kernel not booting?

2004-11-23 Thread Bob Proulx
Gasper Zejn wrote:
> I've apt-get installed an official kernel-image-9-2.6.8-k8 package and 
> rebooted, and i get an "no init found" error, while -k7 kernels work 
> with no problem.

You say kernel-image-9-2.6.8-k8 but then you also say:

> The grub lines (i've added init=/sbin/init with no luck):
> 
> title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.8-1-x86_64
> root(hd0,0)
> kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-1-x86_64 root=/dev/sda1 

Those two don't match.

> init=/sbin/init ro

Remove that.  I know you just added it for debugging.

You are missing an initrd line.

> My system is an amd64 athlon 3000+, nforce3 chipset with maxtor sata hd, 
> the motherboard is gigabyte ga-k8ns.

I don't think there is enough information here to debug the problem.
It seems like you are trying to install on a base 32-bit system a
kernel capable of running both 32-bit and 64-bit code, right?  But the
kernel you say you are installing and the grub line you are showing do
not match.

What is in your /boot directory?

If you run update-grub manually what kernels does it find in /boot?
What menu.list results does it produce?

Bob


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Re: X Strangeness with mouse after new install

2004-11-23 Thread Bob Proulx
Artimus Dink wrote:
> One thing I've found is that if I do a 'modprobe
> psmouse' prior to 'startx', then X will start straight
> away and the mouse works fine... any ideas?

I am guessing that either hotplug or discover or something else is
installed on my machine and loading that module automatically while on
your machine it is not.

Add psmouse to /etc/modules so that it is always loaded.  This was
always needed previously with woody.  It is a tried and true method.

Bob


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Re: X Strangeness with mouse after new install

2004-11-23 Thread Artimus Dink

> 
> Not a clue.  But is your mouse outputing
> information?  Try this.  When
> you move the mouse you should see some data from the
> device.  Break
> out of it to stop it.
> 
>   sudo od -tx1 /dev/psaux
> 
> If you have mousedev loaded then the /dev/input/mice
> should work too.
> 
>   sudo od -tx1 /dev/input/mice
> 
> If you don't see anything then there is no way that
> X11 will see
> anything either.
> 
> Bob

Sorry about the empty reply... caffiene is a bad idea
this late in the evening...

I definately get output from both sudo commands, and
'lsmod' confirms that the modules are loaded after I
manage to get X up and working.  Again, I tried adding
psmouse and mousedev to /etc/modules, but in that case
X starts but the mouse doesn't work at all.

One thing I've found is that if I do a 'modprobe
psmouse' prior to 'startx', then X will start straight
away and the mouse works fine... any ideas?






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Re: X Strangeness with mouse after new install

2004-11-23 Thread Artimus Dink

--- Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Artimus Dink wrote:
> > (**) Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
> > (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psaux
> > No such device.
> > (EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
> > (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured
> Mouse"
> > [...]
> > (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
> > (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device
> > /dev/input/mice
> > No such device.
> 
> Hmm...
> 
> > If I try 'startx' again, I get this...
> 
> That seems really bizarre to me.  I am sure most
> people are not seeing
> such strange stuff.
> 
> > someone suggested adding mousedev and pmouse to
> > /etc/modules.  If I do this, X starts on the first
> > try, but the mouse doesn't work at all.
> 
> That seems reasonable.  I usually have those on
> woody machines.  Sarge
> has both hotplug and discover and one of those loads
> those drivers for
> me at system boot time.
> 
> > I looked at /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and found that I
> > have entries for "Configured Mouse" at
> "/dev/psaux"
> > and "Generic Mouse" at "/dev/input/mice".  This
> struck
> > me as a bit odd, but I have an x86 machine running
> > Debian Sarge... its XF86Config-4 is set up the
> same
> > way and X has always worked flawlessly.
> 
> That looks normal for me.  That is how you can have
> both a (im)ps2
> mouse and a usb mouse at the same time.
> 
> > Can someone tell me what's going on?  I've run
> Fedora
> 
> Not a clue.  But is your mouse outputing
> information?  Try this.  When
> you move the mouse you should see some data from the
> device.  Break
> out of it to stop it.
> 
>   sudo od -tx1 /dev/psaux
> 
> If you have mousedev loaded then the /dev/input/mice
> should work too.
> 
>   sudo od -tx1 /dev/input/mice
> 
> If you don't see anything then there is no way that
> X11 will see
> anything either.
> 
> Bob
> 
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problem running Xprint on amd64 (x86-64)

2004-11-23 Thread Drew Parsons
One of my Debian users has experienced some problems running Xprint on
amd64 (x86-64).

Originally he was getting a segfault
(http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=278510)

He now reports the segfault is no longer occuring, after release of a
newer Debian revision.  Since it's still the same Xprint v9.001, I
presume the change has been in libc6 or some other library for amd64
(not that libc6 has changed for amd64 over this time, but anyway.  Maybe
they use gcc-3.4 instead of gcc-3.3?).

However, he reports that Xprint is nevertheless still not working,
although it is no longer segfaulting:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=282655&repeatmerged=no
Xprt is running, but /etc/init.d/xprint thinks it has stopped.


Since the original bug was specific to amd64, it occurs to me that the
second might be as well.  But the error is happening
in /etc/init.d/xprint, not in Xprt.


Support for amd64 is still "under development", it's not yet "fully
supported" by Debian.  So I'm not sure how much of his troubles are due
to bugs in standard libraries (libc etc) for amd64, and how much could
be Xprint's.

The problem is not clear enough for me to file an Xprint bug.  But I
thought it might be useful to raise it on the mailing list for further
thought.


Debian amd64 porters - can any of you confirm that Xprint (package
xprt-xprintorg) is working successfully for you?  Test with xphelloworld
or by printing from mozilla.



Regards,

Drew Parsons




Re: Mplayer?

2004-11-23 Thread A. P. Kennedy

Thanks to all that responded I decided to just compile the debs. It
was very easy as everyone said. 

Thanks again for the pointers. 




Re: x86-64 new name for amd64 mail list ?

2004-11-23 Thread Chris Cheney
On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 11:55:07PM +0100, Ernest jw ter Kuile wrote:
> 
> today, I got several messages coming from  
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> which I had never seen before. Is the mailing list name changing ?
> does this imply the architecture name will be changed too ?

That was the old name of the list (from last year iirc). I haven't
received any messages from it and have been subscribed for nearly a
year now.

Chris




x86-64 new name for amd64 mail list ?

2004-11-23 Thread Ernest jw ter Kuile

today, I got several messages coming from  

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

which I had never seen before. Is the mailing list name changing ?
does this imply the architecture name will be changed too ?


Ernest.




Re: [ Spam 50 ]::Mplayer?

2004-11-23 Thread Ernest jw ter Kuile
On Tuesday 23 November 2004 10:56, Johan Groth wrote:
> It is not that difficult to compile by yourself.


I did that, and did some experimenting with it, using the 32 bit version of 
mencoder as reference.

For some reason the 32bit mencoder beats the hell out of the 64 bit version on 
the same hardware ! and I'm talking at about 2 x the speed !

Don't really know why, although I can imagine the 32bit version includes some 
specific assembly optimisation, missing from the 64bit version.

can anybody comment on this difference ??

Ernest.




Re: Official 2.6.8 kernel not booting?

2004-11-23 Thread In The Night
The order of which the disk-device handling modules are loaded is _very_
important.
Len Sorensen helped me sometime ago with the same problem.
The order solved my problem.

On Tue, 2004-11-23 at 21:34 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Quoting Norval Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > Hi Gasper,
> > Which kernel did you use for initial install?
> > I have very similar system: amd64 athlon 3000+, nforce3 chipset,
> > Seagate sata hd, the motherboard is gigabyte ga-k8ns Pro.
> > 2.6.8-1 kernel does not find Seagate SATA HD.
> > Are your sound, network and usb drivers working?
> > Regards,
> > Norv
> >>
> 
> Yes, everything else works perfectly. network module is forcedeth, 
> sound driver
> is i810, usb mouse works fine. But -- if it's 2.6.8 -k7 it works, if it's -k8
> it doesn't. I'm using this .deb
> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/base/kernel-image-2.6.8-9-amd64-k8
> 
> Hm... I'm thinking ... i first installed i386 and then wanted to install a 64
> bit kernel with IA32 support to debootstrap the pure64. Am I going wrong way?
> 
> I just checked debian bug tracker for above kernel image and supposedly it has
> System.map with 0 byte length -
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=281424
> Could this be it?
> 
> Also Len Sorensen noted there's a missing initrd line in my grub/menu.lst that
> might be causing this and could be related to kernel unable to mount 
> root. I've
> also compiled my own kernel with built in drivers and same happens.
> 
> But then could this be due to RAID in bios? (I don't know if it's enabled or
> not)
> 
> I'm sorry I'm not near the box now, but I'll check this all tomorrow.
> 
> Regards,
> Gasper Zejn
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Official 2.6.8 kernel not booting?

2004-11-23 Thread gape
Quoting Norval Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi Gasper,
Which kernel did you use for initial install?
I have very similar system: amd64 athlon 3000+, nforce3 chipset,
Seagate sata hd, the motherboard is gigabyte ga-k8ns Pro.
2.6.8-1 kernel does not find Seagate SATA HD.
Are your sound, network and usb drivers working?
Regards,
Norv

Yes, everything else works perfectly. network module is forcedeth, 
sound driver
is i810, usb mouse works fine. But -- if it's 2.6.8 -k7 it works, if it's -k8
it doesn't. I'm using this .deb
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/base/kernel-image-2.6.8-9-amd64-k8

Hm... I'm thinking ... i first installed i386 and then wanted to install a 64
bit kernel with IA32 support to debootstrap the pure64. Am I going wrong way?
I just checked debian bug tracker for above kernel image and supposedly it has
System.map with 0 byte length -
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=281424
Could this be it?
Also Len Sorensen noted there's a missing initrd line in my grub/menu.lst that
might be causing this and could be related to kernel unable to mount 
root. I've
also compiled my own kernel with built in drivers and same happens.

But then could this be due to RAID in bios? (I don't know if it's enabled or
not)
I'm sorry I'm not near the box now, but I'll check this all tomorrow.
Regards,
Gasper Zejn



Re: Firefox plugin downloader pretends to install flash

2004-11-23 Thread Michal Schmidt
Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
It's harmless, but is there any way to disable that annoying plugin
downloader?  It takes up a lot of screen space.
You can put this little piece of CSS into your chrome/userChrome.css in 
your profile:

browsermessage[type=top] {
display: none;
}
Michal



Re: Official 2.6.8 kernel not booting?

2004-11-23 Thread Norval Watson
Hi Gasper,
Which kernel did you use for initial install?
I have very similar system: amd64 athlon 3000+, nforce3 chipset, 
Seagate sata hd, the motherboard is gigabyte ga-k8ns Pro.
2.6.8-1 kernel does not find Seagate SATA HD.
Are your sound, network and usb drivers working?
Regards,
Norv
> 
> My system is an amd64 athlon 3000+, nforce3 chipset with maxtor sata hd, 
> the motherboard is gigabyte ga-k8ns.
> 
> Greetings,
> Gasper
> 




Firefox plugin downloader pretends to install flash

2004-11-23 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
The new Firefox has a cute behavior.  If you click on that ANNOYING
plugin downloader bar, it offers to download Flash, presents you with
the EULA, then downloads and claims to successfully install the plugin.
There's an upstream bug in Bugzilla on this behavior:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265536

It's harmless, but is there any way to disable that annoying plugin
downloader?  It takes up a lot of screen space.

-jwb




Re: Official 2.6.8 kernel not booting?

2004-11-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 01:16:57PM +0100, Gasper Zejn wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I've apt-get installed an official kernel-image-9-2.6.8-k8 package and 
> rebooted, and i get an "no init found" error, while -k7 kernels work 
> with no problem.
> 
> The grub lines (i've added init=/sbin/init with no luck):
> 
> title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.8-1-x86_64
> root(hd0,0)
> kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-1-x86_64 root=/dev/sda1 
> init=/sbin/init ro
> savedefault
> boot
> 
> My system is an amd64 athlon 3000+, nforce3 chipset with maxtor sata hd, 
> the motherboard is gigabyte ga-k8ns.

Where is the ramdisk/initrd line in grub?  You should not have to pass
init=...

Most of the time, 'init not found' is a side effect of the message
'can't mount root filesystem' which is often caused by 'missing initrd
ramdisk'.

Len Sorensen




testing d-i on amd64

2004-11-23 Thread Harald Dunkel
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Hi folks,
I tried to build and test d-i on amd64 (gcc-3.4), but for
the current version 'make build-monolithic' failed with
some broken dependencies and missing packages:
:
:
Reading Package Lists... Done
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
** warning: in monolithic, file-preseed has unsatisfied dependency on 
cdrom-detect
W: Unable to locate package kernel-image-2.6.8-9-amd64-generic-di
** warning: in monolithic, lilo-installer has unsatisfied dependency on 
fdisk-udeb
** warning: in monolithic, lvmcfg-utils has unsatisfied dependency on 
parted-udeb
** warning: in monolithic, mdcfg-utils has unsatisfied dependency on 
partconf-find-partitions
** warning: in monolithic, mdcfg-utils has unsatisfied dependency on parted-udeb
** warning: in monolithic, nobootloader has unsatisfied dependency on 
parted-udeb
** warning: in monolithic, partman-efi has unsatisfied dependency on parted-udeb
** warning: in monolithic, partman-jfs has unsatisfied dependency on 
jfsutils-udeb
** warning: in monolithic, partman-partitioning has unsatisfied dependency on 
ntfstools-udeb
** warning: in monolithic, partman-reiserfs has unsatisfied dependency on 
reiserfsprogs-udeb
:
:
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package kernel-image-2.6.8-9-amd64-generic-di
make[2]: *** [stamps/get_udebs-monolithic-stamp] Error 100
make[1]: *** [_build] Error 2
make: *** [build_monolithic] Error 2
Would somebody mind to update the udebs for amd64 (gcc-3.4)?
Many thanx
Harri
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Re: X Strangeness with mouse after new install

2004-11-23 Thread Slava Risenberg
See my answer for "kdm and psaux" post
http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2004/11/msg00181.html post

-- 
Slava Risenberg 




Official 2.6.8 kernel not booting?

2004-11-23 Thread Gasper Zejn
Hello!
I've apt-get installed an official kernel-image-9-2.6.8-k8 package and 
rebooted, and i get an "no init found" error, while -k7 kernels work 
with no problem.

The grub lines (i've added init=/sbin/init with no luck):
title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.8-1-x86_64
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-1-x86_64 root=/dev/sda1 
init=/sbin/init ro
savedefault
boot

My system is an amd64 athlon 3000+, nforce3 chipset with maxtor sata hd, 
the motherboard is gigabyte ga-k8ns.

Greetings,
Gasper



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Re: [ Spam 50 ]::Mplayer?

2004-11-23 Thread Johan Groth
A. P. Kennedy wrote:
Hi,
I know that mplayer is not a part of the debian distribution. So I
hope that by asking I don't flamed. 

Does anyone know of a reliable site that has prebuilt debs for mplayer
and it's support files for gcc version 3.4.2?
It is not that difficult to compile by yourself.
/Johan
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